Risk vs. Reward

So tell me user, are women worth the hassle?

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Sometimes it feels like they aren't. But just think of when you're alone at night and how nice it would be to have a woman beside you in bed. Just ignore their stupid shit and appreciate them.

and the flip side is when you are not alone and how nice it would be to dump the bitch.

I've made the choice to be celibate for five years. Sure, I sometimes fantasize about that genuinely loving, loyal, and supportive woman. Of course I want sex. But I still feel it's a net gain. If I lived in a country without Quaker/Puritan feels about sex, I could get a prostitute or sex surrogate and be totally fine. If you happen to live in such a place then take full advantage.

>fantasize about that genuinely loving, loyal, and supportive woman.

who made this the ideal image and target to strive for? i think you are spot on about the prostitutes.

>women are a hassle
Stop aiming for high maintenance "hot" sluts.
Find yourself a nice wholesome woman.

Of course not, goy

It all depends on what kind of woman. Roasties like your pic? Absolutely 150% never. But an actual woman, like the cooking cleaning type, of course. I’ve said it a million times and people don’t want to hear it because they want to hold out hope that they end up with a 8/10, 9/10 wife, but unless you’re chad try dating someone you consider 1-3 points below you. If you’re an 8, date a 5 or 6. If you’re a 7, date a 4 or 5. They worship the ground you walk on.

after sex robots and VR completely upturn the sexual market place and things calm down from that, women will be good.

Yea.... I totally understand and agree and I'm not a basement dwelling pussyless faggot like many on Sup Forums.

However......Sometimes I just want to kick them all, including my mother, in the face and just RUN.

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Can't live with them, can't live without them.

It's what I'm hoping for

Unironically this.

Women the sexual object - no, your hand is just as good

Women who you might start a family with and will actually check the values before inserting your dick - yes. Your life means squat if you leave no seed user, let it be a K seed instead of r

Saved to piss off roaties.
Praise kek

some women only want the seed and not the father figure around. so that is an option.

It's probably a combination of things. First, real women who (in other cultures and historically) have actually been more reliable life partners. Still, the wise choice is to seek firm, platonic friends to full fill other needs. This notion that one person can complete your life perfectly is very recent, Western fiction. Look up Romanticism. We've known all this since the ancient Greeks, at least.

>But just think of when you're alone at night and how nice it would be to have a woman beside you in bed.
i am yet to have such a night

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>can't live without them
my life seems t be a paradox then

See the "check values part".

Also, if you're not christian, you deserve to get fucked.

The hotter a girl is, the greater likelihood that she'll have some sort of maintenance issue or overly inflated ego, and has been brainwashed that her hotness means she needs to ride dicks all day long. If you are looking for a wholesome long lasting relationship where your wife is also your best friend/companion, they are horrible.

The uglier a girl is, the greater likelihood that she'll have some sort of esteem issues which manifest themselves in all sorts of bizarre mental disorders with their body image, and make them horrific relationship material.

Women to aim for are in the middle. They are not extremely hot or extremely ugly. They have some attractive redeemable qualities, and they almost always have a properly developed ego and lack major insecurities or problems. They are ideal for long term relationships as they are not mentally fragile as a result of their physical insecurities and they're not over-inflating their worth based on their hotness. They also were not raised to use their looks to get what they want whether it's attention or pity (also attention). They were raised to have personalities and develop a set of skills beyond caking clown makeup on their faces and sticking their tits out.

This meme has traditionally been attached to ugly girls, but it isn't the case. Actual ugly girls are a fucking mess for a relationship. You need to find those 5-7/10s maybe an 8 or something- if they were late bloomers that's even better. Just as long as they weren't ugly or extremely attractive around ages 13-16, that's when most of the psychosis develops because hormonal boys either give you extremely undue attention or completely ignore you altogether.

nope

Wow look at all the incels and virgins!

sadly not really. the only thing they offer anymore is children and even that comes with massive risk. 50% of marriages end in divorce and 70% of women cheat (probably higher since that was from 1991). knowing you will either be made a cuckold or get ass raped in court during the divorce, is it really worth it?
sex is pretty easy to come by thanks to slutaps, so you don't need to marry for that.
it's not like women offer much more than that because they don't cook or clean. American women aren't really worth it, just pump and dump

if you don't have a lady making hell in your life you haven't lived long enough yet

If you take them seriously: NO
If you just have fun and know how to do it without creating drama: FUCK YES

It's only risk insofar as potential social ostracization stemming from the embarrassment being rejected entails, this is acting from the supposition your rejection would be a public affair, most aren't. I think when you say "Risk vs Reward" you really mean "Labour input vs outcome." As the fundamental role of men is to produce viable offspring yes, any amount of labour is worth it if the end result is producing viable offspring. Now, of course, minimizing labour input whilst maximizing genetic output should be your primary concern. As you're an American posting on Sup Forums, I'm going to use the assumption that you're from a k-type population as an axiom. With that as an axiom I can assure you that an Asian wife will be in your best interest, genetically speaking. Below is a bulleted list of reasons why this is true, it's rough, I know.

>Asian women, particularly those in the west tend to be on the upper end of the bell curve. As a K-type individual, your children's best shot at producing more offspring would be possessing high-percentile cognitive functions. As R-type populations are inherently more numerous, your only way of competing is having in your possession cognitive characteristics of the highest order to, so to speak, out-think the hoard. Sure, finding a white woman with a high IQ would achieve the same effect, but, working from the bell-curve they are more rare than their Asian counter-parts, thus making asian women the optimal choice if you wish to limit input labour to maximize genetic output

>In the future, being white will most likely put a target on your back. Because of this, in order to ensure the success of your genetic lineage, a miscegenated relationship is in your best interest. Your direct genealogy is far more important than your races. Ideally both would work together, but, these are not regular times.

>If you're white, Asians are attracted to you, inherently. Thus limiting input labour

Then go to Reno, legalized prostitution, problem solved!

Nearly 30, married. Have been with both men and women, ya'll are just sad. Americans, goto Reno or get an escort, they get it. Seriously though, stop acting like the problem is the other sex and go out and fix the problem yourself.

>leaf
>advocating yellow fever
I see you there, XiaoPing, you can't fool me with your sneaky plot to Asianize the Americas.

>In contemporary society, perceived victimhood is an advantage (affirmative action, political voice, diversity hires etc. . .) As these people enjoy more societal success, it follows that they're also more genetically successful. Thus, to maximize output, breed perceived victims. Not only will they have an advantage over their racially homogeneous peers, their high cognitive traits due to being the offspring of two k-selected races places them above other mixed race children who are usually between an r type and an r type, or a k type and an r type.

Like I said, you haven't lived long enough yet.
>Have been with both men and women
haha faggot

I'm of Anglo-Nordic descent and have a white wife.

I seriously wouldn't bother forcing anything until you are around 30. If something happens naturally before 30, well then great. However, there are better ways to spend your time (and let's be real, money too) from high school until around 30. It took me 7 god damn years to realize that after jumping from woman to woman. I wish I got out of the young and dumb phase sooner, but I still figured it out soon enough to do the right thing. Just work on your career, education, hobbies, friendships etc until then. Get yourself a pocket pussy or a cool female friend that wants to bang without the bullshit in the meantime. To sum it up, yeah women are worth it cause they make children, but they aren't worth anything but a quickie when you're a young buck.

I'm a woman. Secondly okay. Sorry you ain't getting any.

However, due to the remoteness of our location, we have been able to breed a small host of children in the upper 98th IQ percentile and are preparing them to lead. As America is more populated than the geographic location in which I reside, it follows that I should advocate for what will work best for OP, and not me in my unique circumstance.

(((they))) want to black the Americas and make us dumber, not asianize it and increase our IQ.

>Your life means squat if you leave no seed user
There's always the memes and knowledge to pass on if you're a celibate smartypants.

>tfw asexual

Will never know.

If you didnt want her, why went to her? retards.

this is my answer.

No.
You're a bait master is what you are.

Don't go making up words for faggotry

this is the kind of loser, uncompetitive white cuck mentality that drove all these hot white girls to get bred by black men and why any woman over a 6 has an immense amount of power in western society. settling for less than you deserve, what a cuck. you can make ugly babies if you want cuck, but you should be giving advice to no one else

Have you ever been to Reno? The brothels aren't even in the city. They're all a bunch of prefab structures in the middle of fucking nowhere with old broads who charge an arm and a leg for mediocre service because there's hardly any competition. The spotty Nevada laws/market hardly make a solution to the problem. Especially since most Americans can't afford to make that happen. We need a model more like Germany. Unfortunately the prudes here can claim all hookers are secretly sex slaves like in a Liam Neeson movie and just arrest everyone. That's the American way. We need a culture shift.

>It's only risk insofar as potential social ostracization stemming from the embarrassment being rejected entails
I think you're forgetting about divorce.

EU cuck virgin spotted

Seriously, how often do you see a AF-WM relationship on the cover of "vogue." BM-WF relationships make up half the bloody couples on advertisements.

I don't have the urge or need to fuck anything how should that be called?

GET OUT INCEL. GET OUT.

you break even imo

Prenups user, prenups. Also, Asians tend to be far more devoted, thus limiting potential outcome variables.

>Colombian trannies
Hope you have a cocaine overdose

In the long long term view , it's a net loss for men to be with a woman. Just make lots of money. If you want sex, just buy it. If you want love, just buy it. If you don't want to sleep alone at night, just buy it. The longer you stay with the same woman the more disappointed you'll be. But as long as you know it's temporary and purchased and can be cut loose at anytime and refreshed. You'll be much happier. But if you plan to have kids and a family you ought to understand it's best you stay with that same woman until your kids are fully grown up themselves.

> tfw my shiekhs like me and have girls ready to meet up halal-style to get married whenever I'm ready and get a front and side profile pic

Feels good man :)

>No seed, no value
>Be Christian
Who is the founder of your religion again?

the right girl is, but those are few and far between.

The kind of girl that is worth is, is the kind that will wake you up with breakfast and cooks you a big dinner when you get home.

There are a lot of bratty bitch out there, not many are relationship / wife material.

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>Your life means squat if you leave no seed
One doesn't need to personally father children to pass his genes on efficiently. Genes are shared across individuals. If you become rich or well connected or otherwise a valuable member of society, that gives your siblings and relatives and in extension, your whole tribe/nation an advantage in procreation.

You think bishops or cardinals are evolutionary failures?

They're in Dayton, right? Just stay in Virginia City and go there occasionally. I go to VC a lot, I got a full old-west outfit.

Faggotry for fun

Psychological issue for serious

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Sperm-banks are also an excellent way of maximizing your genetic proliferation and continuity.

White women aren't for sure.

I'll fully agree with that. I'm just saying it's an option. I think prostitution should be 100% legal, taxed, and regulated! It would solve so many issues.

Faggotry is fucking someone in the ass. Not wanting to fuck anything is not faggotry.

Now this is good advice.

This is why bbc wins the pussy. Bbc doesn't care and you are putting that shit on a pedestal and complaining when it doesn't fit your "standards". Stop being a retard and start treating them as meat YOU bitch

The eternal "Liber-al-la-la-tarian" strikes again!

OP's image is SO true.

As a guy who has been with an attractive white girl for years... I can tell you no. Virgins and autists idealize women too much. They can contribute to your life, but man are they fucking annoying. No matter how hot the girl is, you'll get sick of her and desire some strange. They also tend to be slobs and nag you about petty bullshit. Their egos are insurmountable. They are never wrong according to their own minds. Really women were a mistake. The only value is their ability to give me progeny.

I'm not kidding.

Not if you're a misogynist.

There's some true in that.

Still, having a family of your own means much more control over the values you pass on.

I dont get it. Can some people not sleep alone?

Not every guy wants some chick taking all the blankets and half shitting/farting all over your back as the smell engulfs the room.

Maybe im just autistic as hell, but id rather be alone 98% of the time and im ok with it

Artificial wombs and sexbots will make women obsolete.

kek

If you wanna be happy
For the rest of your life,
Never make a pretty woman your wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get an ugly girl to marry you.
A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall.
As soon as he marries her
Then she starts to do
The things that will break his heart.
But if you make an ugly woman your wife,
You'll be happy for the rest of your life,
An ugly woman cooks her meals on time,
She'll always give you peace of mind.
Don't let your friends say
You have no taste,
Go ahead and marry anyway,
Though her face is ugly,
Her eyes don't match,
Take it from me she's a better catch.
Say man.
Hey baby.
Saw your wife the other day.
Yeah?
Yeah, she's ugly.
Yeah, she's ugly but she sure can cook.
Yeah?. Okay.

if you want kids on your own then yes.
if not then not really.

Psychological issue it is then.

>Prenups

lol now i know youre a desperate incel

prenups arent worth the paper theyre printed on

unless youre baiting me, in which case, well baited

Prenups are worthless, leaf.

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not for you they're not

Very honest and real, but okay, if that's what you want to believe.

>Expectations
Women =2 men? Disappointment + frustration.
Blacks =2 whites? Disappointment + frustration.
Blacks, women =2 pets/children? (Relative) Prosperity

Lower expections or don't play. Game is rigged though

I'm married with 3 children, and 1 on the way you fucking idiot.

I don't even have prenups as my wife is religious and if she were to sue for divorce she would be socially sanctioned.

>be me
.be bisexual
>be sick of everyone's shit
Hot people are all picky, not just girls.

This.

Also, check how they feel about their father. And tbqh, if you're in love then she'll be the most attractive woman in the world, not memeing. A 7 will become a 10.

There's also nothing wrong with high maintenance as-long as you enjoy spending time with the person, which you should do.

Tits or GTFO
It’s really simple

Low T soy-boy

>This prose.

Are you literally (figuratively) a 14 year old me?

Look in your Yellow Pages. There should be a section full of "escort services".

There's nothing illegal about hiring a woman to come and visit you and keep you company. There's nothing illegal about giving her a big tip. There's nothing illegal about her deciding she wants to sleep with you. And they tend to be nice to men who are nice to them.

They're not especially cheap, but they're not out of reach, even on an every-weekend basis, of most single men with a job.

Just about anything you want, there's a civilized way to do it so you don't get in trouble. The cops don't bother about stuff that doesn't make problems for society, especially when a fair fraction of the people who do it have good lawyers and important friends, who can embarass a cop badly enough to hurt his career prospects.

THERE IS NO SOY IN THIS COUNTRY.

>50% of marriages end in divorce
This stat is irrelevant. It peaked in the 1980's, applied more generally to boomers, and is greatly warped by 2nd and 3rd marriages. In reality 1/3rd of marriages end in divorce. The real question is how many people find satisfaction and happiness within their marriage? in the USA i think 25% is the real number.

legendary

Guess you're just naturally a faggot then.

The feeling of being "in love" only lasts for - at most - a year and a half. So absolutely no.

You gotta risk it.

>See this girl for 3 months
>Hangout all the time. Have great sex
>She know's i like trump and asks me why i do
>I say i think its cool that a regular guy could be president. I dont reveal my power level to her
>Have the "talk" of what we are she says we are just friends
>Feel like i wasted my time
>Whatever move on

I looked at her twitter after we stopped seeing each other all she did was retweet Hilary, MSNBC, CNN and weird feminist shit.
Her last tweet was Nov 10 2016.
Dodged a bullet there kek.

I am just not sexually attracted to anything. Not a faggot.

As someone in a relationship with a solid 9 out of 10 liberal feminist, I will say the only pleasure I get anymore is pointing out how intrinsically animalistic niggers are or how liberals are getting fucked by their own bullshit.