Germany lost over 4 million men fighting on Eastern front. Millions of men sacrificed for Lebensraum...

Germany lost over 4 million men fighting on Eastern front. Millions of men sacrificed for Lebensraum. Whats the point of conquering living space if no one is left to live there?

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Old men like young women, too many young men around, work it out yourself.

It was literally map autism.

If Hitler managed to thrash Stalingrad or Moscow, he would have little resistance to face from the Russian commies. Them years white people were actually getting married and were having 2-5 children per family. You could replenish you human stock in about a decade.

Why is Sup Forums never talking about WW1, the real game changer in both military warfare and politics

>Why is Sup Forums never talking about WW1
too depressing

What's the point? The Germans were forced into war with the Soviet Union, they had no other choice but to give the slavs and their Jewish overlords battle. The Germanic people and the slavs would never have been able to live in harmony with each other. Had the Germans never invaded the Judeo-Slavic Soviet Union would have invaded all of Europe with hundreds of divisions.

Implying there wouldn't have flourished hundreds of glorious planned cities, and that the population of Germany wouldn't have increased thirtyfold if just the amerimutts didn't have weighted in for their overlords.

Imagine the great works of art, literature, philosophy, math, science and political theory that would have flourished in the post war years.

This. Not to mention, straight up colonize the whole of Africa and Middle east all by itself, and stay as a super power even more powerful than the americans.

Yeah, those were the cool people, too. Now they're stuck with a bunch of fags and you see what happens.

>The Germanic people and the slavs would never have been able to live in harmony with each other.
We lived in harmony with the krauts for nearly 600 years. Back during the PLC our western border with Brandenburg was the most peaceful region in the entire Europe. Literally no wars. But then the eternal kraut sided with his ally the eternal kacap and ruined it forever.

I think it's wrong to blame the Germanic peoples for being at war with the Slavics on behalf of your people being perverted and deracinated by bolsheviks. What was done had to be done. Besides, Germanics hating Slavics is an American meme.

>has a tough time against germany with US money
>would curb stomp UK/France/Italy/Germany and the US together
you're mentally challanged

>found the balt/ukranian

The truth is that it was all for slavic boipussy

Can we have more map threads?

millions of slavs helped fight for the Germans

Germs are not very bright people.

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They had a tough time because the Germans found out they were mobilizing an enormous invasion army on their border, and surprised the Soviets, pushing them back to Moscow and Leningrad.

If the USSR struck first, history would be very different today.

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>4 million dead
>no one left to live
Nigger, what?
Do you think that Germany had only 4 million inhabitants?

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>If the USSR struck first, history would be very different today.
Do you mean like in Finland where they had a hard time? Or do you mean like in Poland together with Germany? Stormtards I swear

Well they could have just watched the Soviet Union make the last finishing moves on their invasion force and get the momentum on top of completely outnumbering a country that was never ready for a war and forced into a war with the eternal Anglo pumped up commies and watch them airdrop straight into Berlin and sweep like locust trough whole Europe.

That would have definitely saved more lives as we all know communist never murdered, starved, raped and tortured anyone to death

Soviets invaded Poland when it became clear the Germans were making short work of the Poles, and the USSR didn't focus all of its military capabilities in Finland. The war with Finland versus what it was capable in the lead up to, or after Barbarossa shows no real comparison, retard.

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>>The Germanic people and the slavs would never have been able to live in harmony with each other.
>We lived in harmony with the krauts for nearly 600 years. Back during the PLC our western border with Brandenburg was the most peaceful region in the entire Europe. Literally no wars. But then the eternal kraut sided with his ally the eternal kacap and ruined it forever.
you lived on German clay (still do)
even ruski'bros hate your jewish parasite existence
oy wey!

Britcucks ruined everything

I never knew Germany had a colder winter than Finland or Russia

Fuck That.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact#Consequences_in_Finland.2C_Poland.2C_the_Baltic_States_and_Romania
THE FUCKING KIKES DID THIS

>holl up lemme invade Czechoslovakia, Poland together with the USSR, start killing the population, invade France, invade and bomb the NL, invade the nordicks, invade Yugoslavia and massacre the population, invade Greece then go fight against Russia when they're receiving aid from the allies! That will show communism

I never knew that the boogeyman that is the USSR was Germany's neighbor

The war began more than 2 weeks before the Soviets invaded, most of the actual fighting was done by Germany.

The rest is autistic screeching.

>German–Soviet military parade in Brest-Litovsk (German: Deutsch-sowjetische Siegesparade in Brest-Litowsk, Russian: Coвмecтный пapaд вepмaхтa и PККA в Бpecтe) refers to an official ceremony held by the troops of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union on September 22, 1939, during the invasion of Poland in the city of Brest-Litovsk (Polish: Brześć nad Bugiem or Brześć Litewski, then in the Second Polish Republic, now Brest in Belarus). It marked the withdrawal of German troops to the previously agreed demarcation line and the handover of the city and its fortress to the Soviet Red Army.
mental midget no different to a SJW

You're a mental midget? Good to know, must be why you keep responding with irrelevancies.

>hey guys lemme invade europe and then go fight russia so after everyone turns on us and the soviets eventually walk into Berlin and fuck the shit out of germany they will be too tired to march further west
>oh adolf du bist der beste
ciggie butt brain

>none of that has anything to do with what I put forward
Nice try, mountain abo.

I can see by your empty statement that you could never understand war...

>They had a tough time because the Germans found out they were mobilizing an enormous invasion army on their border
>n the two years leading up to the invasion, Germany and the Soviet Union signed political and economic pacts for strategic purposes. Nevertheless, the German High Command began planning an invasion of the Soviet Union in July 1940 (under the codename Operation Otto), which Adolf Hitler authorized on 18 December 1940.
mental midget

do it for the memes

>talking about two sides planning on attacking each other
>means I endorse any side
>accuses me of being a stormie while defending the USSR
>only the nazis had any intentions of starting a war
Yep, you would have to be a mental midget to believe what you do.

>Implying Ukrainians are

mental midget I'm waiting for you to show me the part how Onkel Dolfi waged a purely reactionary war backed up with Germans finding out they were mobilizing an enormous invasion army on their border and not

>As early as 1925, Adolf Hitler vaguely declared in his political manifesto and autobiography Mein Kampf that he would invade the Soviet Union, asserting that the German people needed to secure Lebensraum ("living space") to ensure the survival of Germany for generations to come.[22] On 10 February 1939, Hitler told his army commanders that the next war would be "purely a war of Weltanschauungen ... totally a people's war, a racial war". On 23 November, once World War II had already started, Hitler declared that "racial war has broken out and this war shall determine who shall govern Europe, and with it, the world".[23] The racial policy of Nazi Germany portrayed the Soviet Union (and all of Eastern Europe) as populated by non-Aryan Untermenschen ("sub-humans"), ruled by Jewish Bolshevik conspirators.[24] Hitler claimed in Mein Kampf that Germany's destiny was to "turn to the East" as it did "six hundred years ago" (see Ostsiedlung).[25] Accordingly, it was stated Nazi policy to kill, deport, or enslave the majority of Russian and other Slavic populations and repopulate the land with Germanic peoples, under the Generalplan Ost.[26] The Germans' belief in their ethnic superiority is evident in official German records and discernible in pseudoscientific articles in German periodicals at the time, which covered topics such as "how to deal with alien populations".[27]

>what is Operatsia Groza
>what were communist ambitions for world revolutions and later invasions supported by Stalin
>what is the red uprising in Germany after WWI
>why did it influence all the events that followed
You're either a complete retard projecting your own idiocy or a shill.

>>what is Operatsia Groza
>Reverse Barbarossa; Operation Groza | Alternate History Discussion
mental midget

>>what were communist ambitions for world revolutions and later invasions supported by Stalin
They had no problem arranging transport for a communist to spread communism in Russia faster in WWI

>>what is the red uprising in Germany after WWI
you mean Germans that were pissed off at the monarchy for dragging them into a 4 year long war while they sat in their mansions worrying that maybe they'll have to ration their resources, I mean sending Lenin to Russia and helping their communist revolution surely didn't help

>>why did it influence all the events that followed
ally yourself with the USSR, fuck up Europe in the meanwhile, attack the USSR like a sneaky Jew, get raped

mental midget bruv

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>Operation Thunderstorm is alternative history
kek

>They had no problem arranging transport for a communist to spread communism in Russia faster in WWI
Pic related did far more to cause that regime coming into existence than the Germans allowing Lenin safe passage to Russia. Either way, they back-stabbed the Germans first.

>the red uprising was all just ordinary Krauts pissed off with the monarchy
lel

>ally yourself with the USSR, fuck up Europe in the meanwhile, attack the USSR like a sneaky Jew, get raped
USSR had plans to divide and conquer all of its neighbors long before the Nazis took power, its written into the core of their ideologies.

The scenario is very simple, either the Germans gain advantage by surprise and delay the inevitable, or roll the dice and hope to win a defensive war against an offensive power with greater industrial output, resource capabilities, while fighting the Brits.

Thanks again for playing, mountain mongoloid.

>>Operation Thunderstorm is alternative history
>Operation Thunderstorm was the codename for the Singapore Armed Forces's operation to contain refugees fleeing South Vietnam following the fall of Saigon in 1975.
groza means terror you mental midget

>Pic related did far more to cause that regime coming into existence than the Germans allowing Lenin safe passage to Russia. Either way, they back-stabbed the Germans first.
the whit... I mean da j00s are keeping us down

Absolutely this. WW2 was based upon world-changing ideas. WW1 was a horrifying, senseless shitshow .

>>the red uprising was all just ordinary Krauts pissed off with the monarchy
>The roots of the revolution lay in the German Empire's defeat in the First World War and the social tensions that came to a head shortly thereafter. The first acts of revolution were triggered by the policies of the German Supreme Command and its lack of coordination with the Naval Command. In the face of defeat, the Naval Command insisted on trying to precipitate a climactic battle with the British Royal Navy by means of its naval order of 24 October 1918. The battle never took place. Instead of obeying their orders to begin preparations to fight the British, German sailors led a revolt in the naval ports of Wilhelmshaven on 29 October 1918, followed by the Kiel mutiny in the first days of November. These disturbances spread the spirit of civil unrest across Germany and ultimately led to the proclamation of a republic on 9 November 1918. Shortly thereafter, Emperor Wilhelm II abdicated his throne and fled the country.

>The revolutionaries, inspired by socialist ideas, did not hand over power to Soviet-style councils as the Bolsheviks had done in Russia, because the leadership of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) opposed their creation. The SPD opted instead for a national assembly that would form the basis for a parliamentary system of government.[1] Fearing an all-out civil war in Germany between militant workers and reactionary conservatives, the SPD did not plan to strip the old German upper classes completely of their power and privileges. Instead, it sought to integrate them into the new social democratic system. In this endeavour, SPD leftists sought an alliance with the German Supreme Command. This allowed the army and the Freikorps (nationalist militias) to quell the communist Spartacist uprising of 4–15 January 1919 by force. The same alliance of political forces succeeded in suppressing uprisings of the left in other parts of Germany, with the result that the country was completely pacified by late 1919.

>USSR had plans to divide and conquer all of its neighbors long before the Nazis took power, its written into the core of their ideologies.
So we will do the same Dolfi shouted as he was getting into a war with the whole world

it's not your fault for being a mental midget, it's the j00s

>groza means terror you mental midget
top kek
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Bunich
>Operatsia Groza - Operation Thunderstorm
Nice try though.

>ignoring facts posted
>da j00s
Shill confirmed.

>>Operatsia Groza - Operation Thunderstorm
then the russians are just weird, there is nothing about opercija groza then a wiki entry and revisionists forums, also well formed responses on the other topics

Don't you understand

It's controlled depopulation, instead of conquering living space, you pretend to conquier so half your population is btfo so it's comfy on what it has

youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20