is anyone of the opinion that we cant have an AltRight in Europe?
Unlike in USA where AltRight is a unifyng force throughout the continent (no surprises sicne AltRight is an Anglo Prot movement after all), Europe altRight ideas seems to be stuck in local Muhs and Weez, and honestly, I dont think AltRight ideas in Europe unify the continent.
can we fix this?
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Boy, check k out generation identity, they're a better version of the "alt right".
They're organized, quite neatly funded, have branches about in every major European country, etc.
and they Larp less than ((Spencer))
Fuck Europe and fuck Europeans.
We left Europe because we hate whites
Brexit NOW!
>wanting to fix this
Changing Europeans wanting to be with their own specific ethnic groups would turn us into 50%'ers just like the Americans. Why would you want that?
EU != Europe you stupid Anglo.
>unifying force
>couple thousand members
You are as delusioned as commies who think that workers will rise any moment to be led by rich, academic marxist in glorious revolution.
Hes probably a "new European" from London, ignore him user.
>generation identity
but they are basically French new right, which is far different than neo-reactionary AltRight.
French new right is pretty pessimistic and has nowhere near the influence of AltRight in USA.
>You are as delusioned as commies who think that workers will rise any moment to be led by rich
AltRight is USA is a strong political force right now. You are talking with ourself.
>we left Europe
The alt-right has practically no influence in the US, it has a couple thousand people in a nation of 300 million, and they'll probably be able to do much good if they create parties and/or influence already existing ones.
It also spread all over Europe, i know they have branches in Germany and Austria, Italy and France and they might have some roots in Britain and Spain, but not that I know of.
Generation identity proved themselves quite capable when they sailed that ship, so I'll trust people that act, like them, and not people that just talk, like (((Spencer))).
They're not pessimistic. French new right is very intellectual which is what americans lack IMHO. If a significant part of the elites get redpilled by critical thinkers (and they are getting redpilled on some issus), then you basically won.
It's also important to have well stated, reknown, coherent answers to many leftist claims.
If not, your movement risks crumbling at every moment. And I think this is the state of the american alt right, it looks like many supporters could leave due to appropriation by retards or simply losing steam.
>The alt-right has practically no influence in the US, it has a couple thousand people in a nation of 300 million
en.wikipedia.org
GI ship did nothing! AltRight change the Overton in a way a billion dollar aparatus couldnt
>French new right is very intellectual which is what americans lack IMHO.
Its the Anglo-anti intellectual works over thoughts tradition and I dont think its a negative approach. The certainly acomplished far more than the GRECE group.
>James Bond in OP
Why wouldn't it? Whites are all facing the same problems, some Countries worse than others. If you have to just start with civic Nationalism like Poland and us. It's a better base for us to work out of.
Dude the only reason the alt right gets any coverage is because the US media needs those clicks.
There's been much more impressive things in Europe and it gets ignored, and even if the ship did nothing (but I think it did help), the fact they delivered and showed they have skills other than talking is already better.
And again, unless you want to create some new movement or thing yourself, you don't have anything else to attach yourself to.
Lol at calling Spencer a Kike. You wish you looked like Aryans you little rat.
GRECE is literally the one that made many issues come into light and provided studies about these issues. They created many alternative media (which are very much read) directly or indirectly through their influence.
Recently they're also spreading to Europe with beautiful videos like this one :
youtube.com
They're laying out very solid fundations for many groups to rise and start the fight. Actually, they've already done that and there's a reason so many ppl are becoming right wing and we hear immigration critics everyday.
>Dude the only reason the alt right gets any coverage is because the US media needs those clicks.
AltRight/we got completly ignored until recent Trump win. WE CHANGED THE COURSE OF HISTORY NIGGA (yes, we, I too did it, but I saw resulty of my action only in USA, not in EU)
>Why wouldn't it?
Europe doesnt seem to be receptive for AltRight ideas, which are anglo, libertarian and neoreactionary in essence. There simpyl isnt a continental feel of unity in Europe.
I don't need to prove anything, or pretend to be something I am not.
And you don't have to be a Jew to have kike behavior.
Trump isn't alt right, he's a pretty normie conservative, and people voted for him mostly out of spite, anger, frustration, disappointment with the democratic candidate, etc, etc.
The alt right did become bigger, but it's still not very influential.
But if you want things in EUROPE, go to generation identity, I can't help you with that and recommend you anything else.
You can't even get your own women you little freak. They fuck every race but yours lol.
sure we do.
Why are you ignoring the right sector and azov group of Ukraine? It's obvious to me that there are a lot of hardcore fascists and racial conscious politics under the surface of the political radar on Europe. Don't know if this is really a good thing to be honest. A shitstorm of blood appears to be coming, and it didn't have to be this way.
Nah it's about Whites. We have all of you here. Nah you don't need to be libertarian, just a White Nationalist. Yeah i understand your problem with the Continental Unity but i disagree. Nationalist from all around Europe were very proud of Polands March. A lot of people even went there to support it.
support your own country and at the same time europeans should be in an alliance dragan
Nigger what
Why are you so massively butthurt? I didn't even say anything.
Sunic, who is/was also a part of GRECE actually mentioned that we should look more into Anglo right (altRight) than French new right school - its was NPI conference where he was asked should Yanks look more into Europe or other way...
>Why are you ignoring the right sector and azov group of Ukraine?
Ideologically those groups are just LARPs.
You called Spencer a Kike. We know what you ugly fucking rats look like.
Imagine a Europe where Šešelj and Jelinčič are in power, and they both sing a contract about partitioning Croatia between Slovenia and Serbia?
I think that burgers do not understand what far-right politics could do to this continent, since all the far-right nationalist parties have some historical clay to claim.
Yeah because he's all talk, no action, and doesn't do anything but to hurt the cause he's "fighting" for.
Lol at two fucking kikes talking about taking action for the White race. You can breath in that gas for us.
>I think that burgers do not understand what far-right politics could do to this continent
My point exactly. But it goes further than serious tension in former Yugo, there are tensions between Fr, UK and Germany also...+Germany-Poland...
>Yeah because he's all talk, no action
Spencer? are you out of your mind?
He doesn't like that Spencer uses Israel to justify Whites having an Ethnostate. Shows the world how big of hypocrites Jewish people are.
Why do you burgers care about shilling for nationalism in Europe so much? I though drumpfkins and alt-reich turds were all about isolationism and murica first?
OK, so tell me what Spencer did.
Stop importing retarded American idealogies, I mean just look at the absolute state of their dumbfuck excuse of a "country".
Make up your own minds and European ideas to resist the refugee lunacy and leftist idiocy rather than adhering to some backwards af cringefest that worships a literal clown across the sea.
Why do you filthy Kikes care about the affairs of White. You're not White.
No, it's not that, I don't see any sort of results from this guy, and unfortunately, Israel isn't an ethnostate, even though it aims to be one. If a Jewish ethnostate is fucking 20% Arab, it's not an ethnostate.
Jews are a race, quit fucking lying. Not our fault you're a bunch of inbred halfbreeds.
Because Europe and the US control the world, and are full of culture, and I'd very much like it so stay that way and for world rule to not fall into the fucking chinks hands.
And I'll give a shit about whatever the fuck I want you greasy fuck.
>quite neatly funded
I bet you know all about that schlomo.
>OK, so tell me what Spencer did.
Spencer has been countering neo-conservativism since 2008, together with Gottfried created an ideological frame that gave birth to AltRight.
>Stop importing retarded American idealogies
too late for that, we lost 2 world wars + AltRight isnt a bad ideology, it puts historical MA CLAY local conflicts aside.
Did I lie? What part in the sentence of "A Jewish ethnostate is not an ethnostate if it's 20% Arab" is a fucking lie, huh?
OK, and what did the alt right achieve, because creating a small movement/party isn't the greatest accomplishment.
this is embarrassing.
YOU ARE EUROPEAN! END OFF!
I've seen you spit this >le we are not europeans shit over 1million times now
YOU, YOUR ANCESTORS and YOUR HERITAGE WILL FOREVER BE EUROPEAN
We're gonna let the Muslims wipe you out Even the lefties take their side over yours.
It's still an Ethnostate. Jews are arabs.
the most prominent person on the picture, isn't even european, or represents anything about europe
well done
OK and we'll wipe them again like we did before.
M8 I was just talking about my opinion of the usefulness of Spencer compared to GI, you don't have to react like a fucking retard.
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I'm I'm tired of this shit, piss off with your shit bait, no more (You)s.
Nah we did that for you. You're gonna get crushed and your own women like Muslims are niggers better anyways. It's so funny.
Man, there is a reason why the FN has 30% minimum, even when she acts like a retard (literally) a couple of days before the vote on national TV before tens of millions of French. It's mostly due to the GRECE and related thinkers and newspapers which are spreading quickly in France. Without talking about the many books they put out which have reached quite a notoriety.
>OK, and what did the alt right achieve
pic rel. against all odds.
Anglos are a specific group, even if you have your identity different from the continent, you shouldnt be hostile to your mother-continent.
No we cant.
Many fake nationalist parties like Front National don't want to have ties with other parties for example Golden Dawn or Forza Nuova/Lega Nord.
Oy vey Shlomo.
I know that one but they dont talk a lot about (((your people))).
Not because i want to gas every kikes, but they seem to close the eyes open some (((questions))).
I can only speak for my nation and why it doesnt work as america right now: The Netherlands
The top down control and total information blockade is near 100%. There are no rural, or remote citizens who are disconnected from this web of lies. You could probably make a topological social network map, and in america it would be much looser, intermingled with freedom of speech notions as well. But there is no such thing here. Because there is so little space for people here, everyone is so close, there are no guns, and no alternative places to escape this place...the conformity that the jews can push upon this nation is grandiose. The mental state of the citizens here is more or less blocked from even being allowed to make ONE politically incorrect sentence.
You guys have no idea how fucked up the average person here is. They are severely brain damaged, I kid you not. While the average SJW in your college campuses becomes super aggressive as you would expect because of their programming...the average person here is actually not that far away from them. There is zero sanity in most of these people. They have zero self actualized thoughts here. Thoughts made from their own blood.
Sure you may come here on a vacation and think "oh these people seem healthy, tall and reasonable" but once you get into their inner workings, a normal american would probably be shocked as to how far gone they are. The brains of most of the citizens here are completely mush, those caricatures you see of people being turned into drones, they are almost literal here. Its just so horribly fucking terrible.
Though there is obviously some good news...but its probably again thanks to the internet where these people who had zero volkish thoughts, now have...20! (compared to the average natsoc shitposter here who has like 500 thousand) They blocked the lefties about the zwarte pieten thing, and there is also some flow of people with a general distrust of the current state, into the FvD.
You can have the cuck version.
Have to agree here. Case in point: every fucking election.
School your own kids is my advice.
>bitranny prettycock
Kek
Holy shit user that was heavy to read. Have some faith, there must be those around you who carry the torch in their hearts, hidden, like you do.
>The top down control
that is exactly why I want to move to USA. There seems to be more dissent there dispite them having shittier life than Europe and being 56%, they have more virility than here when we are so stuck in the past.
>School your own kids is my advice.
illegal.
its just kinda weird, I feel like a representative from the reich in some way by going outside, knowing all of this. The people and the programming here with them are so similar, so extremely uniform, they even manage to drag along some of the non muslim minorities with them.
Every day that I go out there I no longer even visualize "oh today I am going to meet other human beings who have their own diverse internal world, filled with diverse hopes and dreams which may interest me"
I know this feel from living among fellow Germans, they may be biological my people, but they don't have a soul anymore, mindless drones as you said.
why do you people fall for the alt right meme? It was a term literally made up by the clinton campaign
I dont even get it how this is even remotely possible, there should be at least 10% of the population who are capable of being remotely as having "a soul"
BUT ITS NOT
HOW THE FUCK DID THIS NATION BECOME SO BAD JESUS CHRIST
Nah she just tried to call all Trump supporters Alt Right so every cuck around starting calling themselves that till Hail gate.
You do not have a flemish fdesouche or polemia or rivarol or boulevard voltaire or salon beige or la porte latin or ... ?
Then I feel for you. How about creating one ? At least a blog.
Wait, what about the PVV ? Doesn't it have some related newspaper and quite a good support ?
>HOW THE FUCK DID THIS NATION BECOME SO BAD JESUS CHRIST
The old world died long ago, now we are just whitnessing the end of the last remains, it is noe time to ditch those subhumans who still cling to the rotting corpse and stay true to the spirit of Hyperborea, the tradition of the roman empire and form a new society not infested by socialism.
until you realise that your people are not automatically good because they are biological your people nothing will change.
stop believing in racial socialism and admit that 95% of your volk are disease ridden subhumans.
then and only then is a chance for europe to rise again.
or you could join the next random "patriotic" movement that pops up, but they will never change anything because they are part of the problem.
free your mind from the dark clouds over europe and let your spirit soar to the sun.
The freemasons have considered it - its worst enemy and say since their foundation nationalism has been their arch-enemy.
Feels bad man.
You mean that my country isn't so bad compared to yours ?
I mean, politically.
With my people, it's almost the opposite :
People talk, people are angry, people are never happy, french are more and more intolerant to islam, but they're still dickhead when it comes to political elections.
It's like
>"muh i might be racist, but i dont vote for a racist candidate
I cant understand that.
It's like my people have 2 opinions :
-The media's opinion
-The personal opinion
When it comes to put a god damn paper in a box, i dont know why, it's always the media's opinion that is taking over their mind.
>unify the continent
There's your problem. The EU is doing that and no sane Alt Righter agrees with them.
Can you do more than empty threats and larping in mongolian fishing board in real life?
>The EU is doing that and no sane Alt Righter agrees with them.
*unify in a non cuck way.
But due to nature of Europe and intraconflicts I dont have hope even for that.
If they start talking a lot about us, and if they fear us, that means we're gaining more power than they could ever expected.
It's always a good thing when you know that your enemy fears you. It's because he's scared for him, and he's scared with the idea of losing against you.
That means they think they still not win this battle.
Their fear is actually the best gift they could ever give to us.
You're starting to normalize it tho. That's a really good sign. Pisses me off Varg counter signaled LePen. Like i said you guys just gotta get a start. They're overwhelming you with social pressure right now.
then why is the eu flag in op?
It's due to the FN desu. Marine has actually showed she's controled opposition at this point. She acted way too retarded for the normies on TV to vote for her. If only she had actually debated she could have reversed it. Or at least, she would have made over 40% and not 30.
I just hope things like UPR gets pushed in the reinformation media instead of the FN. Or the PNL but I'm hoping for too much on that one. UPR is a great start. There's also General Didier Tauzin or DLF.
I dont know mang, I think I know what the problem is: The elites of this nation were subverted, they moved out, killed or otherwise removed from any power positions.
And those elites were replaced by jews and crypto kikes like rutte. I know that at the very least I cannot congregate with lower races, they are shit no matter what happens you know.
Also pic related happened. But the civilization decline can happen to most races, that doesnt mean that a race cannot be better or worse than another race in its prime. I doubt that you would want to build up a new civilization with niggers lol. Thats quite impossible you know.
But mang I just dont know. It just feels so weird to have your voice overshadow the collective voices of MILLIONS. Is this real life lol? Maybe this is hell?
Europe will only make it if they have the support of the Vatican.
Hail EU
Hitler said civic nacionalism only works as long as nobody loses faith in the country. If that fails it's back to the drawing board. And it makes sense.
European nationalists aren't like American nationalists and people need to stop pretending they are.
Americans are mutts and are therefore civic. European nationalists have grudges going back hundreds of years. Try putting Serbs and Croats or Brits and Irish on the same side. It won't work.
Whites don't control the EU. At least not Proud ones. We don't know enough about it, maybe you can get some of our goys in there to stop trying to kill you with immigration.
>Americans are mutts and are therefore civic.
americans are racial nationalists, racial identity goes way back in USA compared to Europe.
I'm a hostorian but IO can't put my finger on when the elite displacement happened. Sometime in the 70s I suppose.
Drees jr. was the last based politician, en he was collectively neutered like Janmaat in the 80s.
Le Pen and Front National are (((controlled opp))).
Still, when you see this controlled opp gets about 11 millions votes while all fucking french media were larping against her with "muh diversity, muh hitler, muh minority, muh rapefugees, muh holohoax", and not a fucking one was supporting her, and while she acted between the 2 round like a fucking retarded, that means that many people see there's something wrong in the country.
But it's not enough.
She could have made 40-45% if she acted wisely, and maybe won if there were any freedom speech, and any objectivity in the medias
(but honestly right now, it's better that she didn't win, because she's clearly not the woman shaped to lead us for removing kebab, or at least closing the borders. imo after 6 months, her loss is a good thing for the country, and for the french extreme right. 5 more years to find a good leader and stop this bullshit, and maybe give us more time to take back the country. Because i clearly not believe in democracy anymore. Democracy wont bring our country back, like it was 70 years ago. Before the degeneracy of the 60's.
Do you know who did this first?
>She could have made 40-45% if she acted wisely, and maybe won if there were any freedom speech, and any objectivity in the medias
Sorry dude, but i despise her.
>(((pro "europe")))
>uses the fucking Euroviet Union flag
unironically kys
>I doubt that you would want to build up a new civilization with niggers lol.
would only be possible with a strict cast system and the genocide of every nig whou woulnd't submit
I was more thinking of secession from your sick volkskörper.
an end to this racial socialism were all those new right fags tell us that everyone of ours has the same value, pandering to the lowest of the lowest and attracting more socialist filth.
We are not one people you have to accept it and secede as long as you aren't infected, colonise a part of south america or asia or just build a wall around your town.
it is the only way to survive until we regained our strength to purge the degenerate scum from the face of this earth.
Found the kike. Like Europeans never bred with each other.
>The freemasons have considered it - its worst enemy and say since their foundation nationalism has been their arch-enemy.
This is funny. Because Ioannis Metaxas was a National Socialist and Freemason.
>European
>EU
These are not the same thing. Fuck off OP.
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Or course the FN is a bullshit right now.
I believed in Le Pen for 6 months.
I put my faith in NDA. Or Julien Rochedy, but too young.
He's clearly not the man fit to be a great leader like De Gaulle, but he might be the one to show us the way, and to give us more time.
Imo, there are 2 things that must be fixed in France :
-National education
-Media
After we purge this, all bullshit that are associated to this will fall a bit after.
Anti-racism, anti-antisemitism, diversity, no border, LGBT rights, Holohoax cult.
Media, education. That's all it takes. Then after the destruction of the engine of (((leftism))) shall we be able to stop this bullshit.
What a nightmare, isnt it? Growing up in this kind of environment when the fight was already decided 20 years ago...
A stranger thing that I cannot wrap my head around is the fact that peoples internal world is so non diverse...it just doesnt make any sense. When you go outside, you hit your foot on a rock, and then you make a thought "well this is not a good thing to have happened to me, this rock also kinda looks weird"
and then you would tell other people about such an event. Now do this for a billion other small things...as you would expect from INDIVIDUALS and theoretically you would expect people to have vastly divergent, and complicated internal worlds and different views...but in practice this is not the case...I mean how is this even possible?
What prevents an average person from making an observation about the many different complexities that hit him in life, which are vastly different from other people, and then speaking out about them? Sure they may not always be useful...but we have vast libraries of books...all information out there still is freeish.
Yet for some reason...if a person hits his foot on a rock. The first thing he does is to ask his indoctrinated parents if that rock was marginalized...and then when he grows up he looks/types on his social feed first instead of making an observation himself on it.
This process...I dont get this process. Why do people do this? Nobody has the power to stop you from thinking like this, but the people choose it themselves? It makes no sense.
Idk if the alt-right is really a "unifying" force here...
She's a dickhead man of course, she's not the leader we actually need. If she became president it would have been a nightmare for my country.
The goal for us with, was to see how much extrem right vote the french could make, with every media against her, always larping to white supremacy and racism, and with a incompetent woman on the lead.
Still she gets 11M votes. Even after such an anti-performance.
We didn't breed with blacks and natives.