Veteran PTSD discussion:

Why is it that American veterans are experiencing more PTSD than the rest of the world? Isreal is consciption, and they have like the lowest in the world.

israelhayom.com/2017/07/23/study-ptsd-in-israeli-soldiers-among-lowest-in-the-world/

Is it the fucked up types of missions we ar e doing, or is this all programming within the military system?

israelhayom.com/2017/07/23/study-ptsd-in-israeli-soldiers-among-lowest-in-the-world/

>a nation that has been at war for 16 years experiences more PTSD than one that has done literally nothing but sit there and watch the sand dunes blow by

WHAT

A

FUCKING

SHOCK

>Chemical efforts to make men more 'sensible'
>All kinds of weird products on food, water and air
>Man get THE GAY
>Soyboys feminated males enter military
>They get mentally broken by the horrors of war
>Kill themselves

rly made me think...

>More military deaths by suicide than in combat in 2012
That means they're going to hell, eh christfags?

I honestly have a bad reaction to the sound of people walking on gravel. I was such a lazy fuck that the worst part of my day was listening to an NCO approaching my room and then knocking on my door to tell me to do shit. I could always hear them approach, sometimes multiple times a day, until my conditioned response was total dread. Eventually anyone walking by my room got this response.

Yall niggas forgot the glory of Mars and the blessings of Juno, this is why everybody is a faggot. Also you re-wrote your identity during world war 2, you don't know what you are so of course you want to die.

>le skydaddy xd

Spending the best years of your life killing people who are no threat to your country, that only fight back because they see us as foreign invaders can do that do someone.

Yeah, they should've been aborted because dead infants go straight to heaven now.

We are not our thoughts, our psyches. Our psyches are ecosystems, organisms, of thoughts acquired via memes and experiences. Psyches can die. The stages of grief are symptoms of a dying psyche. Ever hear people say "When she died, a part of me died with her?"

Observe democrats after 2016 election. Stages of grief - laughter, denial, anger, depression. Soon acceptance. A new set of beliefs and thoughts, a new psyche, will inhabit the vacuums of their minds in the wake.

Now enter a soldier. Everything that you fought for was a lie. PTSD is the manifestation of the ultimate torture and death of the psyche. Some never bounce back.

The military has changed a lot since the end of Vietnam. It's progressively become more toxic.

>Yes goym, go to a desert country to bring them democacry, while I profit from my Oil and Arms industry investment.

Nigga so there I was!
A SEAMEN ON THE USS JOHN C STENNIS IN VFQ. I WENT DOWN THE TO THE MESS DECKS TO EAT OUT OF THE SANDWHICH BAR.

NIGGA.... THEY HAD BACON
YA THAT RIGH MOTHER FUCKING BACON BLT SANDWHICH SURPRISES.

A MIGHTY SHEBOON RUSTLED PAST THE STARVING SAILORS AND GRABBED FISTFUL OF BACON SCREECHING YALL OWE ME THIS.

NIGGAS THE BACON WAS ALL GONE...

I FOUGHT TOOTH AND NAIL THROUGH HELLFIRE TO GET TO THAT BACON

YOU WILL NEVER KNOW SUCH HELL

RATED 120% DISABLED NOW

Because the soldiers were left basically anywhere from 9 months -15 months in a combat zone that doesn't have front lines, and there was no proper R&R away from the front, because the front was anywhere everywhere. Spending EVERY DAY on edge for 15 months will take it out of you, the very least hardwire your brain completely different

>Be me
>Live in American heartland
>Jewish overlord school superintendent feeds me yummy propaganda about how all of our wars were justified and that we are the good guys and muh 6 quadrillion
>Sing songs about America for my dad 6x a year for many years
>Dad cries evrytiem, he "served" as a navy forklift driver in Japan in the 1980s
>dad says they were the best years of his life, tells me lots of funny stories
>Get my gf pregnant in HS because no sex ed
>Marine recruiters literally come to my school every day
>They see me with my pregnant gf and offer me sign-on monies to war things more deader
>sign up to be a mercenary
>They send me to the front lines because I'm actually good at shooting and everyone jokes about killing muslims so I do too and soon it's not ironic anymore and I actually begin to hate all muslims
>do all of Israel's dirtiest jobs while they fight against little children
>Have profound anger about my experiences and I'm not sure why
>If anyone ever told me the truth that I've been Israel's bitch this entire time I would literally snap and kill them because I've been brainwashed
>they have to get on an anonymous Turkmenistani kayaking imageboard and tell me over the internet that jews are the bad guys and I've been working for them which makes me the bad guy henchman
>Alienate all my friends because I become aggressive and arrogant from being called a hero all the time even though I know I don't deserve it
>Stop hanging out with anyone who isn't in the military
>Literally get preferential treatment for high-paying jobs but can't ever keep them because I drink too much
>Tell people they don't support the troops if they oppose sending their kids to war to become fucked like him
>shoot myself in the fucking head one day

and that's the story of how one of my best friends killed himself.

Also it's worth noting that the Israelis themselves say they have the lowest rates of PTSD in the world. Such brave warriors, much wow.

I legitimately believe the only ones with PTSD are the weak, and those who were never meant to go to war in the first place. I've been blown up, killed people, and seen friends get killed, and I have no signs or symptoms of PTSD.

IEDs and fucked up urban combat.

American soldiers don't get the whole "did what I had in defense of my homeland"-feel can make war traumas seem worth it, and they neither conquer lebensraum for their country. There is nothing "real" soldier accomplishes by fighting in a distant foreign land. There is very little to gain as individual soldier, since your freedoms would still be there even if you didn't serve at all.

If you fought in a conflict that actually has something to do with actual survival of American freedom and way of life, I'm sure there would be far less PTSD and other negative mental effects linked to warfare

because you have been at war constantly all over the world for hundreds of years maybe?

HOLY FUCK YOUR BRAIN BECOMES CAMOUFLAGE GREEN?

games don't count

Because of Route clearance...It fucks with you bad.

Col Grossman did good research on it

‘On War’ and ‘On Killing’ are the ones you want to read

Stop being a faggot, everything that we were trained to do we signed up for and fully expect, i agree, what we don't expect is to watch a suicide bomber or a vbied go to a Marketplace blow up a 2000 pound bomb and kill nothing but women children and babies and then you as QRF have to go and pick up the body parts and collect the skulls for a accurate body count and do a post blast analysis while getting mortared and shot at. The government didn't train me to deal with dead kids it seriously f*****-up everyone in my company.

>Post-industrial society, soldiers coming from areas not ridden with violence
>Co-morbidity between PTSD and TBI

We don't train pitbulls anymore. We are socialized to be docile and complacent, not bred for battle. Plus TBI exacerbates PTSD symptoms among veterans.

>implying
Like I said weak fucking minded. It's war, if you did not expect to see mangled bodies you're naive