Sup Forums, how do you feel about popular loli artists like Sekihan, TKSN...

Sup Forums, how do you feel about popular loli artists like Sekihan, TKSN, and Inuboshi who have garnered a lot of reputation "going legit" by creating published non-h manga at the expense of their doujin work?
Do you see this as a betrayal to their fans instead of trying to better distribute and monetize the work they are known and liked for or as an opportunity for exciting new content in longform albeit with more stringent constraints?

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They need something to put food on the table.
That aside, I feel that the publishers are doing the most betrayal of the readers with their horrendous mosaic or full censorship, which basically ruins the work.

I'm just happy they can (probably) make a living now.

>Do you see this as a betrayal
It should never even be considered as one. Getting serialized is a huge and rare opportunity few of them can afford and is also one big opportunity to continue to appease your fans despite not making anymore doujins. It's only natural to support your favorite artist in their chase their dream.
A recent example of this is Pochi and his Ane Maru work, despite making it big, he promised a continuation and delivered it.

But that's more for published H-manga and online retailers and has more to do with the Tokyo diet's stringent rules pushed through under the INP than actual choice by publishers. Non-h manga tends to be less censored as it's not subject to the same rules, things like To Luv Ru and other ecchi shounen manga have much more detailed content with only the most extreme edge cases (such as Yomeiro Choice) getting repercussions and even those the vast majority were for incest.
I'm more talking about completely non-h manga that doujin artists are hired to do in stead of their current works.

Did yomeiro choice get any repercussions? I was not aware of that. Not that guy you were responding to btw

Most publishers take extra measures to be on the "safe side" and you can see the differences in application between magazines.
>I'm more talking about completely non-h manga that doujin artists are hired to do in stead of their current works.
Yeah, I feel you. My comment wasn't about those, probably should have made it clearer.
千と万 is another worth mentioning. To be honest it kind of felt weird reading, what with so many situations which I'm more used to seeing being setups for something lewd.

With mangaka like 犬星, even though there is that bit of lewd expectation to come to terms with, his art style and general character arcs can be pretty easily adapted to "clean" stuff. Haven't read his non-h recentlyish serialised work yet but are keen to track down the raws and see how he adapted. Reckon that 月見荘のあかり could have easily been the basis for a really heart warming non-h story. Full of warmth, of many kinds.

It was rushed to cancellation and the publisher/author had to pay some fine.
Same with Aki Sora and Iinari! Aibu-ration, there was some litigation and they act as some black mark against the publisher and author legally.

>Sup Forums, how do you feel about
I don't feel anything.

Well News to me. Still I loved the ending of that one for how inane it was so I am glad he went through with it.

Worth posting. Such adorable character designs.

That's what happens with most manga artists. At most, it'll just be kind of jarring if he uses characters from his hentai works in his non-h works ones, especially in the case of OP pic.

I don't a give shit whether its H or non-H, as long they're making good content that they enjoy producing and I can enjoy reading.

One cannot live only with the orgasm of the dick, the orgasm of the heart is also needed.

>It's only natural to support your favorite artist in their chase their dream.
This. I would be happy aslong as the artists still release good and cute stories like when they were doing doujins, I just hope that the story still have loli.

>Iinari! Aibu-ration
Was it because of incest?

I get what you're saying about Sen to Man, the whole manga it feels like it's teetering on the edge of revealing that they're doing lewd things between the chapters and it's leading to their slightly strained dynamic, especially given the father daughter material he's done before has had a lot of the same feeling to it of a mostly normal relationship with sex on top of it.

Tanasinn.

Yes. But the ending was a great fuck you to the INP, fucking both his sisters at spearpoint to release an ancient demon who destroys half of tokyo with a wave of piss.

>ancient demon who destroys half of tokyo with a wave of piss
Didn't he just fuck off to the mountains or I'm thinking of another manga with ancient demon?
Wish Alice no 100°CC wasn't axed as well. It was miles above Iinari! Aibration.

>he's done before
関谷あさみ, the mangaka, is a grill. The detailing of the pink bits are a little bit of a tell with these things. Females also tend to write the best younger girls/older girl relationships, in my opinion. Maybe it's that whole father complex deal but whatever it is, it usually does the job.

Seeing someone like Show do non-h would be really, really hard to juggle the dissonance.

>fucking both his sisters at spearpoint to release an ancient demon who destroys half of tokyo with a wave of piss
Quality banter if I've ever seen it. That deserves credit.

Girls do seem to do a lot of that kind of thing, KnJ being the example that springs immediately to mind, they also seem to tend to be more focused on the characters and less on the sexual tension.
It makes me wonder what Bakaudon would make as a published non-h author.

>Seeing someone like Show do non-h would be really, really hard to juggle the dissonance.
I thought Prism was actually rather good, it's too bad he was cheating bits of it and tracing, the story was actually relatively above par for yuri loli non-h; stretch I just can't get in to.
Ah, yes he fucked off into the mountains destroying most of tokyo in his footsteps and then took a giant piss washing out a city or something.

>I thought Prism was actually rather good, it's too bad he was cheating bits of it and tracing, the story was actually relatively above par for yuri loli non-h; stretch I just can't get in to.
Guess I didn't really consider Prism as non-h, which is dumb because it is non-h. Maybe I was thinking of something entirely free of lewd content.
It was pretty well done how he handled the relationship, though. Captured the whole young rug muncher type confusion as to the whole "how does this work" type deal. I actually enjoy yuri but really only in the one shot type form and far less erotic- more cute and less full on.
It's a shame that it wasn't able to get a proper full length run. All that crap about tracing and what not. There is so much shit and workplace politics involved with illustration, stuff that really who the fuck cares either way? That's a whole other can of worms, though.

The problem isn't that Inuboshi is going legit. Himawari Town Sunroad Girls looks like it's pretty lewd itself, even without being outright porn.

The problem is that no one's fucking scanlating it.

>The problem is that no one's fucking scanlating it.
Get your feet wet and start to learn Japanese. Trust me, in less than six months you could be enjoying it more than you ever could with crappy scanlations.

The thing with the tracing was less about outrage and more about copyright and licensing.
>I actually enjoy yuri but really only in the one shot type form and far less erotic- more cute and less full on.
I like yuri quite a bit when it's handled well, but there is a lot of bad yuri where the author runs out of ideas quickly and it goes way too slowly until they have to make an ending all of a sudden instead of things progressing naturally. Aoi Hana had about the best pacing I've seen even with Shimura's usual confusing temporal bullshit, where things like citrus and Sasameki Koto are incredibly infuriating to read.
I think it's a shame however that Sekiya Asami's yuri works are largely untranslated.

>Himawari Town Sunroad Girls
Speaking of that, was it axed or something? It hasn't been updated since Febuary 2014 but there's no ending announcement or anything.

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I've no idea, honestly.

Maybe I should buy the tank and scan it.

Rotte no Omocha is a good example of this working well, it was generally good throughout too.

Betrayal? Of those fags that leech his work from sadpanda? Lmao.

Probably indefinite hiatus, this seems to happen a lot to manga they don't want to pay for but also don't want to force to end.

The fact no one scanlates Ghost Writer saddens me a lot.

This is quite apparently a great divide between us and in Japan, artists get more obscure here when published where there they get more well known.
I'm suddenly wondering of all the ocean of manga that never gets scanned or even never has any online presence whatsoever in ads or announcements or whatnot.

What!?
Are pukey and Prickly getting a non-H manga?

No, it's just a tankobon of sequels to all of Minori Kenshirio's works that never got scanned from last comiket.

You mean the thousands who crowd comiket every time making motion in the throng nearly impossible?

How do we buy that?

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Using electronic transfers that we have socially agreed are equivalent to pieces of paper that we previously agreed are equivalent to work.

So long as they keep drawing cute lolis I'll be happy.

Refusing to use transliterations of names just makes you look like a pretentious dick.

But a lot of the translitérations are wrong or inaccurate, and everyone has Rikaichan-names installed anyway.

>é

There is nothing wrong with spelling loan words properly.

It's not a loanword.

Most of English is loanwords, it's a very derivative language.

Not relevant.
Besides I doubt user writes hôtel.