Reminder that net neutrality is not an important issue, according to majority of economic research.
All net neutrality changes is how ISPs negotiate with bandwidth-heavy services like netflix.
>The research program then is to explore how a net neutrality rule would alter the distribution of rents and the efficiency of outcomes. After describing the features of the modern internet and introducing the key players, (internet service providers, content providers, and customers), we summarize insights from some models of the treatment of internet traffic, framing issues in terms of the positive economic factors at work. Our survey provides little support for the bold and simplistic claims of the most vociferous supporters and detractors of net neutrality.
the current internet freedom act is laissez =-faire which prevented the creation of regulations regarding ISPs and related infrastructure. This results in corruption because their is a lack of preventing the companies from cutting deals with each other like in other industries, leading to the current situation of a lack of content on the internet and growing censorship as political figures buy into the industry and vice-versa. This is against capitalism because the deal is getting less clear and they hide behind apolapytic legalese and half-hearted claims of >we don't owe you when they commit fraud to their customer base
Luke Anderson
Muh net neutrality. The one consistent topic Sup Forums looks up while on their knees to their leddit overturds.
Ethan Collins
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Wyatt Garcia
ISPs are not "laissez faire", it's a heavily monopolized and regulated industry. This is the real problem; if there were competition, a lot of problems in broadband would erase themselves over time.
"Light touch" regulation came about in the 21st century (in quotes because it is hardly that), but the regulation that gave ISPs their monopoly is still in place.
Justin Jones
If they change net neutrality, they will also change the liability limitation.
William Smith
If you are going to argue for or against net neutrality do not do it on "hurr other side likes/opposes it therefore I must oppose/like it"
Just shows you either have no argument or don't know shit about the subject and look into it through a tribal perspective
Michael Hill
they are. You're referring to the subsidies that politicians were bribed to give, but the industry itself is liassez-faire
Jayden Green
your ID should show a rainbow dick
William Collins
lmfao he got recked xD i love reddit memes now :PP XD
Gabriel White
Government created oligopoly =/= laissez faire.
The government, starting in the 1920s and 1930s actively discouraged competition because they though it would slow down access.
Nowadays, they set up all kinds of so-called pre-deployment barriers, which stifle broadband start-ups.
Luis Martinez
>Net neutrality isn't important
you want your ISP to charge you a premium for accessing high bandwidth content?
are you literally a mouth breathing fucking retard? you don't have to be a liberal to realise that attacking net neutrality in any way is fucking abhorrent and disgusting.
Mason Rodriguez
The ISP charges the third party for their use of high bandwidth service, not the customers.
If anything, net neutrality leads to higher prices across broad swaths of consumers, because ISPs oversell bandwidth, which gets clogged by data hogs like Netflix.
Ryder Reyes
>The ISP charges the third party for their use of high bandwidth service, not the customers.
>thinking they won't pass the charges to the customers >thinking they will simply absorb the costs
do you know how businesses that are in business to make a profit operate?
Landon Smith
>fucking abhorrent and disgusting.
I smell Plebbitspeak.
David Wright
I smell le 51%
Luke Collins
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Michael Williams
Bong, my main point was that price discrimination does not necessarily fuck over customers.
Camden Martinez
ANYONE WHO SAYS "IT LETS THE CABLE COMPANIES CHARGE YOU MORE" OR "MUH TIERED WEBSITES" IS FULL OF SHIT
NOTICE THE AMOUNT OF ASTROTURFING THE VALLEY IS DOING AGAINST THIS. WHY IS ((REDDIT)) SHILLING SO MUCH? BECAUSE THEY'D HAVE TO PAY FOR INTERNET USAGE INSTEAD OF US.
THIS ALLOWS FOR COMPETITION ON THE INTERNET. IT BREAKS UP MONOPOLIES LIKE YOUTUBE, NETFLIX, AND R*DDIT WHICH CAN CURRENTLY OPERATE AT A LOSS AND STILL SURVIVE. IT ALLOWS FOR SMALLER COMMUNITIES TO COME BACK.
HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS: >COMCAST DETERMINES NETFLIX IS USING 70% OF THEIR TOTAL BANDWIDTH >NETFLIX IS CURRENTLY PAYING RATE THE THAT SOME SHITTY BLOG IS PAYING >NETFLIX NOW GETS A BILL TO COVER THE COSTS OF THEIR BUGMEN DRONES USING ALL OF COMCASTS BANDWIDTH >NETFLIX CAN'T RAISE THEIR PRICES BECAUSE OF COMPETITION >THEIR INSANE PROFIT MARGIN GOES DOWN >COMPANIES CAN COMPETE EVEN MORE THIS IS REAL CAPITALISM YOU STUPID FUCKS GO BACK TO LEDIT
Justin Sanders
yeah businesses never fuck over their customers, especially ISP's that are known to oversell their services. what could possibly go wrong
Matthew Thompson
SOYBOY!!!!!
Grayson White
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Daniel King
Flawed logic. this isn't how it will work.
>ISP determines customer is accessing high bandwidth content >"Hey, you need to pay for that, you're using more of our network that anyone else, that's not fair!" >"that will be 19.99 and we will put you on our ULTRA PREMIUM SUPER USER package" > if not we will throttle you till you are back in the age of dialup
Daniel Rodriguez
I'm pro net neutrality but if you don't think the savvy internet users aren't going to route all traffic through a single port into a vpn if things go south, you're fucking retarded.
Jason James
When it's expected that some people won't use their services, it's perfectly rational to oversell. Airlines do it all the time.
I'm not pro/anti net neutrality. I do think it wouldn't be an issue if there were competition in the industry.
However, leddit fantasies about net neutrality are not supported by evidence. They're just whining about "unfairness" like little bitches.
so that will be the majority then? you thick fuck.
it's okay if the majority internet users get fucked over as long as us the minority can get around it...for now, ..... wow.
Anthony Edwards
You dont think streaming services or games will up their prices for having to pay extra to the ISP's? Pull your head outta your ass.
Grayson Evans
Hello comcast shill, how much are they paying you?
Xavier Cox
Who gives a shit about normies?
Matthew Perez
It's entirely dependent upon policy specifics. That's the whole god damn point of OP.
Aiden Myers
because eventually it will leech over and solutions will arise to prevent loopholes that allows people to get around the fee's. the best thing to do is to stop it every taking hold in the first place.
Nathaniel Jackson
Can you imagine a Sup Forums without burgers?
Oliver Reyes
top fucking kek just like they'll eventually kill piracy right?
Adrian Jones
Before NN ISP's used to throttle and block bittorrent so yea they were fucking with piracy
Chase Ward
if you lived here, you would see they had a good shot at it... do you want that to happen to in the USA except with bandwidth?
Here you have to use a VPN or tor to access torrent sites, nearly all are blocked by all major ISP's.
>thinking they won't create some system by which you have to login using a USA locked IP address to verify you are in the USA so your premium bandwidth can be allocated, thus rendering the golden shield of VPN's useless.
there are many ways they could go about making sure you are paying for the "premium" bandwidth you are using. the only reason they haven't done it yet is because net neutrality exists.
Sebastian Scott
isp already throttle you and set a monthly bandwidth limit usually 250-300gb for almost two decades now.
Brandon Fisher
reddit
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Julian Fisher
We need more regulations that control how companies can use your PII. Surveillance capitalism is what let to Equifax breach.
Charles Ramirez
Yeah, they totally killed bittorrent by making you have to spend 3-5$ a month on a VPN for 100% speeds. Bandwidth caps are worse for pirates than their shitty attempts at controlling traffic.
Nathaniel Wilson
I have unlimited bandwidth cap and I only get throttled if I download more than 10gb during high traffic hours, then speed is reduced by half, when it turns 11pm I can download as much as I want at full line speed.
Nathaniel Richardson
>Reddit spacing
press the enter key once you fucking mongoloid. it's default 4chin spacing
Hudson Scott
even moot knew you're a bugman.
Chase Phillips
>should we trust corporate jews or political jews
Brody Gonzalez
Oops meant for the shill with Bug in his id
Hudson Young
soyboi
Adrian Collins
>All net neutrality changes is how ISPs negotiate with bandwidth-heavy services like netflix. pretty much did NN save stormfront? Daily stormer? It did not.
Matthew Jenkins
Net neutrality is just one bullet point on a script that repeats itself. You'll hear about it next year, and the year after that. Be sure to tune in to see if hope fulfills you.
Jaxon Morgan
Shilling this hard for telcom monopolies
Ayden Clark
fuck off leddit
Benjamin Sullivan
They don't have "net neutrality" in any other country in the world besides America. It's just some Obama era commie bullshit that forces the cost of internet up. >timecube and 1chan must have the same bandwidth allocation as youtube and netflix >mass slowdown on popular sites to accomodate the nonexistent 1chan traffic >OY VEY! WE'VE GOTTA ALL BUY THE FASTER INTERNET CONNECTION GOYIM!
Brandon Sanchez
((( Shane Greenstein )))
Bentley Scott
They'll use this chance to demand 'offensive' sites like Sup Forums either change their moderation rules or else get utterly shut down and we all know it