What does Sup Forums think of anarcho capitalism

What does Sup Forums think of anarcho capitalism

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Best memeo-econimic philosophy

I don't know what I hate more

Ancaps that play dumb on the feasibility of their system or marxists

The most morale form of economic society if you value individual freedom.

philosophy of the future imo

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National fascism is the only way for us to suceed

memeflaf fags taking their memeflagging way too seriosuly.

Any non-austrain/hungarian supporting Hoppe's ideas has literally no idea Hoppe means to have a monarchy thus literally rendering a 99% of mankind as a pleb and "voluntary work" fag.

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Damn, he has a really big brain.. I guess nat-soc is the only way

Specific interpretation of liberty taken to an autistic extreme. Unsustainable for a variety of reasons. Still better than anarcho-communism.

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Stop baiting, kike

Unironically the smart man's ideology. There are no intelligent arguments against it that I've ever heard, only some squeals from people who know nothing about economics.

Still waiting for intelligent arguments against it.

Tell me what individual freedoms you are afraid of losing in?

It's a meme economic-political philosophy that doesn't belong in the real world any more than communism does.
>Private military contractors will protect us!
>Competition will ensure that the good ones succeed!
>They definitely won't merge into a massive political entity that exerts control over everybody.

i dont even know wat it really means but the color r kool

The first ideology for the mentally retarded

Works as good as any other anarchist system. Ie, it doesn't.

You don't get to decide what is good for the "physical and mental well being of society"

People aren't naturally corruptible. Governments are.

An ancap society can't properly defend itself against an invading state.

Its a fucking meme only possible in a post apocaliptic world

>People aren't naturally corruptible.
Fucking wew.

Eh its dumb but I kinda like the people into it

practice has shown the free market is the best option for providing any service a person desires. Protection is a service. Why wouldn't it also provide that best option for that one as well?

Indeed, the size of his cranium proves his intellectual superiority.
I am hereby #woke on the natsoc agenda.

Anyone have that ancap open borders comic?

roads

I think its more of a goal for us to strive for over generations more than its a political movement that can actually do anything within our lifetime. I also think its kind of worthless when atheists talk about it. Why is it so important in the end to be moral if everything is ultimately pointless anyway? I don't understand how atheists can be anything but nihilist hedonists.

Humans just don't know how to respect each other yet. Violence is inevitable. But hopefully we can keep preaching about NAP and eventually people will get it.

Absolutely retarded.

Why shouldn't I be allowed to own a 12yr old sex slave?

AnCaps and libertarians pose the greatest threat to the system because they advocate individualism rather than collectivism and the NWO endgame is global communism.

Thats why the shills have been out in force to discredit libertarians and anCaps.

>inb4
Yes - fat stripper guy and Gary "whats Alleppo?" Johnson were both "sent in" to discredit libertarians and AnCaps

infant ideology
as lacking in civilizations under its belt as all the other liberal enlightenment spawn

This. Anarchy isn't a legitimate societal system. It's a transitory state that only lasts until warlords start controlling territory. Anarcho-anything is meme ideology.

I wish it could work,but it doesn't. I personally think it would work better then communism however

>Humans just don't know how to respect each other yet.
user, that's a very idiotic opinion. Human nature never changes, so if you're waiting for it to magically change itself, you're going to be waiting forever. What you can change is institutions, as human behavior is modified by what environment they are in. Free market capitalism is great because in it, normally negative traits such as selfishness and greed lead to benefits for the whole of society. Sitting on your hands and waiting for human nature to change itself is why everyone considers libertarians to be a joke.

Fuck off Rousseau

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It's worse than that.

Communism:
Jewish ideology, founded and created by jews, to depose the presiding government, strip the proles of their wealth, kill millions in ideological purges, and concentrate wealth amongst a tiny elite already massively overrepresented with jews. The society becomes one of sheer jewish degeneracy where the secret police and party members have free reign to do virtually anything they feel like.

Anarcho-Capitalism:
Jewish ideology, founded and created by jews, to depose the presiding government, allow corporations to strip the proles of their wealth, and concentrate that wealth amongst a tiny elite already massively overrepresented with jews. The society becomes one of sheer jewish degeneracy, as the proles are allowed to kill, maim, and murder so long as they can prove or false flag the other party as having violated the NAP first. Corporate executives ruling the not-a-government inc. have free reign to do virtually anything they feel like.

Anarcho-capitalism and Communism are two different methods towards the same ends: Jewish control over the goyim.

Ever heard of mergers and monopolies? Who's going to stop a merger between multiple private security companies - another, smaller security company? No, they'll either join or be killed. Suddenly your anarcho-capitalist society isn't anarchist at all, it's just a new crony capitalist system where the ruling class doesn't have any qualms about openly killing anybody who doesn't submit.

I don't think there's anything more crypto-neoliberal and soy containing than anarchoautism

i like it, but i'm not a pedophile

Corporations can't take anything away from you. They can only attract your money that you voluntarily spend with them. This "muh rich people are stealing muh money" is literally 12 year old logic.
Also why would a society become degenerate? It's not in most people best interests to be degenerate so why would they be?

It's never worth arguing with ancaps considering 99% of the time they just use the same "the market solves it" cop out.

See, this is the kind of dumb counter-arguments I was talking about. You clearly know nothing about economics if you think free markets lead to monopolies. It's not even worth arguing with you because you revealed yourself to know almost nothing about the subject, and are likely too stubborn to be open to actually learn it.

ancapfags aren't real, it's just ironic shitposting

>99% of the time they just use the same "the market solves it" cop out.
Well, it's true. What's wrong with telling the truth?

the free market will make zyklon b affordable to everyone

I'm a bigger fan of egoist anarchism, but there is little difference between the two.

we're real and also not pedophiles

Because
A) Military defence only works on an area basis. A military force can't be hired to only defend a patchwork of some buildings in a town, but not others, which means everyone on the town would need to contribute, but you can't force them to do so because that's taxation. Additionally, any PMC large enough to effectively defend an area by themselves would stand a decent chance at taking over, while if instead an area is being defended by multiple PMCs there will likely be significant chain of command issues.

B) We've seen it done in the past, with a big example being Italy. Armies for hire will give up if they think they're at a significant strategic disadvantage/been outmaneuvered/whatever, before the fighting even starts. Dead men can't spend their paychecks.

Assassination Politics, google it

>Corporations can't take anything away from you.
They can take things from you with violence or threat of violence.

Look the problem here is pretty simple. You are an ideological fuckwit with the naivete of a child. Given a vacuum of power, special interest groups will fill that vacuum.

What if I got lethal diabetes, am too poor to afford medicine but pledges my heart to ancapism? Will the market still solve me?

Oh, this one's good.

The only logically-consistent political ideology. Maligned unfairly by dunning-krugers and communists alike who should spend more time listening to The Tom Woods show or lectures (freely available on jewtube) before dismissing the entire philosophy as the realm of teenage edgelords.

"The market solves it" is the exact reason why their ideology fails. Free market inevitably leads to monopolies. A security monopoly will inevitably arise, which is essentially a military that exerts control over their society, which is fundamentally NOT anarchist. The State can't be abolished. This is why anarcho-anything is just as retarded as communism.

How the fuck is anarchy supposed to fuse with any form of organized systems?
Doesn't the word itself contradict that?

I'll never comprehend the mental gymnastics needed to fuse anarchy with anything.

>They can take things from you with violence or threat of violence.
Then you shoot them. In addition if a corporation has a history of stealing it's going to lose it's business so most companies won't do that. Also:
>everything is Joos
>calls other ideological fuckwits

>straw man
No ancap ever claims they are an island
individual rights does not mean isolation
Ancaps are the most pro-social bunch. They believe in peaceful cooperation instead of imposing their will on others. Compliance with violent thugs is not true social cohesion. It only breeds alienation and resentment, which makes a society less stable.

Because they don't put thought or explanation into it. It's equivalent to bible thumpers saying something works because God made it work.
>it's true
A market's bargaining power means jack shit when a megabusiness takes over in the form of a corporate state. They may not coerce you to buy something, but the market means jack shit when you're a cheap, if costless source of labor on their end.

Don't get pissed off at me just because you choose to promote an ideology that's just as retarded as communism.

Wouldn't work if you're being invaded by a foreign state. This is an asinine concept.

Feeling alienated because the government exists doesn't mean most people feel that way.

Anarchy is a broad term.

Classical anarchism is basically just communism.

Anarcho-capitalism is just stateless private property.

Anarchy as total orderless chaos is what teenagers think it means or just the colloquial use of the term. Not accurate politically.

>if a corporation has a history of stealing it's going to lose it's business so most companies won't do that.
Why? I mean if their product is cheaper...
I mean, you can't have a system based entirely around self interest and assume people are not going to be selfish and put themselves first.

INDIVIDUALISM

The body of a murderer is held trial.
The brain, who ordered the heinous crime, admits his guilt.
"Wait!" Said the muscles, "We did not have a choice - we were just following the brain's orders!"
The judge spoke, "Yet you carried them out."
"Why me?" the stomach cried, "I felt horrible during the whole thing!"
"Yet you gave the perpetrators what they needed to spill the blood of the innocent." Answered the judge.
"No!" The heart at last had cried, "I never wanted this! I objected the entire time! I tried to stop them!"
"And yet," last spoke the judge, "You kept the monster alive the entire time."
"You all played your part whether you realize it or not, and in order for the body of the wicked to be destroyed, so too must its component parts. None of you are innocent."
And indeed, when the murderer was executed, all parts of his body died, for they could not live without him, and he could not live without them.

>thus literally rendering a 99% of mankind as a pleb and "voluntary work" fag.
As it should be.

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but for real, this is the most basic bitch, public school interpretation of market-based security and if you think we, let alone our intellectuals, haven't thought of it, you need to stop projecting your own level of understanding on everyone else.

The final answer is that there is no such thing as a stable anarchist society. Anarchy is a transitory state that inevitably leads into a new system.

>Then you shoot them.
No, he shoots you - as he's got the backing of an entire megacorporation worth hundreds of billions which by all rights looks little different from an actual government.

I realize trying to explain this to you is like trying to explain to a communist why communism doesn't work - it just goes in one ear, swirls around the empty insides a bit, and then goes out the other - but goddammit I still try.

Your ideology is predicated on incorrect assumptions about human behavior, morality, ethics, hierarchy, and organization. I can't put it any simpler: You believe in a pipe dream that could NEVER HAPPEN. People will not hold hands and sing kumbayah, they will fucking MURDER EACH OTHER in order to TAKE THEIR STUFF.

And the only thing that will stop the murdering and looting will be people with a monopoly on violence. Who will abuse their monopoly on violence to create GOVERNMENTS.

And then at the end of the day all you've really accomplished is resetting the clock back some 1500 years to the feudal ages so we can go through all those revolutions and revolts once again trying to claw some measure of rights and freedoms from these governments.

You're so clueless it hurts.

HOW CAN PEOPLE POSSIBLY MAKE FLAT SPACES OF ASPHALT AND CEMENT ACROSS THE GROUND WITHOUT THE MAFIA??? ONLY THE MAFIA HAS THE INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY TO MAKE FLAT SPACES OF ASPHALT AND CEMENT ACROSS THE GROUND!

HOW WILL ANCAP LAST FOREVER IF I CAN IMAGINE SEVEN TRILLION ARMED FOREIGN PEOPLE EVENTUALLY KILLING EVERYONE THEY SET THEIR EYES ON???? CHECKMATE ANCAPS - EVERY STATE IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND HAS LASTED FOREVER AND YOU CAN'T??? AHAHHAHAHAAH GARBAGE IDEOLOGY LAMAO

HOW WILL WE KEEP BROWN PEOPLE FROM CROSSING INVISIBLE METAPHYSICAL BOUNDARIES THAT I DON'T WANT THEM TO CROSS WITHOUT THE STATE TELLING ME WHERE THOSE INVISIBLE BOUNDARIES ARE (THEY ARE INVISIBLE SO I CANNOT SEE THEM MYSELF) SO THAT I CAN BE PERPLEXED WHEN PEOPLE CROSS THEM ANYWAY??? HAHAA FUCKING UTOPIAN KEKS L A M A O

the state is dead

So why is Nestle, a company with a history of siphoning water from poor countries, providing dangerous baby formula, and child labor still doing so well? They've been exposed all the time and yet the market doesn't seem to give a shit about its horrendous antics.

>when your political philosophy makes so much sense a fucking leaf literally turns to a scenario involving sentient limbs in an attempt to debunk it.
*holds sun glasses and thumbs up*

Organs are not the basic component of human society. The individual is. Organs have no conscious thought (except arguably the brain depending on how you look at things). Humans do.

This shit is molymeme-tier. You’re either uninformed of the nature of corruption, or just low IQ. If the former, start by pondering:
1) how anyone can “do” anything at all, rather than just act autonomously
2) how anything can be corrupted, and more importantly why anyone is even capable of seeing any value in recognizing anything as corrupted

too idealistic.

You believe and your belief in deregulated capitalism is bonkers to me. Monopolies and trusts in the early 20th century proved that some gov't intervention is needed, and I doubt that your system of governing would do anything about companies like Monsanto that sued people off their lands just because Monsanto soy pollen got blown over to their side of the land.

Pretty terrible famlam.

Still much better than Communism or Socialism.

The face when the backer of a new commercial or housing development are who pay the contractor for the roads, and decide the names of the streets. Roads only turn to shot after the project is complete and the city takes over.

Do you think the CITY owns the lands, builds a drive thru, and leases to a Taco Bell? Cities dont build roads. They just maintain them, poorly.

It's fucking retarded, like all anarchism. Any society that has no central government is going to be at the mercy of societies that do.

The most basic component of a human society is the family, not the individual.

>No, he shoots you
No, that would violate the nap. Thus it could not happen in a true ancap society.

>Siphoning water from poor countries dominated by states that collude with them for the privelege
>Lobby states to prevent competitors from getting a foothold in the market with taxes and red tape, thus neutering the regulatory nature of competition

This kills the collecticuck.

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Does "having a central government" make a populace able to shoot laser beams out of their eyes and become immune to piercing, slashing, and bludgeoning damage from nonmagical weapons? Damn that's awesome now I can go steal everyone's shit and they can't stop me. Thanks man!

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>Monopolies and trusts in the early 20th century proved that some gov't intervention is needed
to be this blue pilled on history

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You're as (((gullible))) to propaganda as any normie.

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See vid

> any anarchy

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>suggesting states of these shitholes have that much bargaining power
It's a minor hurdle if anything for them to drain all that water. Again, if markets should be avoiding businesses that do so many immoral things, why are companies like Nestle still performing well with still-strong consumer demand?

>companies like Monsanto that sued people off their lands just because Monsanto soy pollen got blown over to their side of the land.
To carry on this line of thought:

And who runs the courts?
Some 3rd party?
So... what? Monstanto can't bribe that 3rd party? They have more money than any common farmers. Why couldn't it happen? Nobody would even know.

The farmers ignore the 3rd party court ruling? Then why have a court? Oh so you have law enforcement who enforces the ruling? A private military contractor? As we continue down these lines of questions, all I can ask is...

How is this not a government? In this case a government effectively run by monsanto where they bribe a kangaroo court to give them justification for fucking people over and if you disagree you get to be "justifiably" shot by a private military contractor.

Perhaps your only hope is to instead live over there where Google has power. Then maybe Google's private military contractor can fight Monsanto's private military contractor over land or industry or trade disputes and by golly it looks like we're right back at governments controlling the land and enforcing laws on people and smaller businesses within their jurisdiction.

Government is a mafia, amirite ancaps?

thanks for the laugh

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Nobody cancelled private charities

>it's not real communism!

Whats anarcho primitism? Is that just saying fuck it and getting naked and going back to the trees?