If America introduced common sense gun legislation tens of thousands of innocent lives could be saved every year

If America introduced common sense gun legislation tens of thousands of innocent lives could be saved every year.

I understand that in the early years of America having an armed populace was extremely important. England could invade American mainland to try and reclaim it at any time and people needed to be ready to defend their land.

The second amendment has become obsolete in 2017 because a threat like that no longer exists. In fact, that has not been a threat since the end of the revolutionary war in 1783. America now has a powerful military with over a million soldiers whose job it is to protect the people. There is also an established and professionally trained police force to protect people.

Now that I have proven that there is no need for guns in a 2017 America can we get started on some common sense legislation that will end the senseless gun violence?

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An armed populace is worth every single American life, if that's what it comes to. It is the very foundation of our nation. It's what truly guarantees our rights above every spoken word.
Historically speaking, every nation has fallen and every government has failed its citizens at one point. An armed populace ensures the citizens will not be failed here in America.

You want my guns, they come with my life. No conversation to be had.

SHALL

Who cares if people die

If you need to be killed to potentially saved hundreds of people later down the road, so be it.

If America introduced common sense nigger laws tens of thousands of innocent lives could be saved.

The point is not that you can win pitched battles against a professional army with all its ordnance as a rag-tag citizens militia with small arms. The point is that you CAN FIGHT. You can bleed them. When they come patrolling through your neighborhood, you might be able to take a couple of the fuckers with you. Hell, you may even be able to run away and do it again - theoretically you wouldn't be alone and they couldn't engage in endless "manhunts" for everyone who resisted them. And they'd never feel safe; there could be a shooter behind any window.

Of course they could call in the artillery and air support and level your neighborhood; sure. What would this get them? Well, it would piss a lot of people off when innocents died and play into the hands of rebels. It would make a lot of the soldiers in that professional army seriously consider whether they were doing the right thing or not. And finally, it would simply kill people, and no one wants to rule a nation of corpses.

The aim of a tyrant is to control, not to kill. What they want is to be able to have militarized police/gestapo units point guns at people and cow them into submission to whatever dictates they may want to impose. If those people are instead waiting behind their doors and ready to shoot first when the jackbooted thugs come around, they've already failed.

So the point is to fight. If you resist, you're not being controlled, and you're also undermining attempts to control others who can't or won't fight; you might die, of course. That's why Patrick Henry said what he famously said, more or less.

As long as people can resist, they can be free, and tyrants can never succeed. But when you're talking about using swords and knives and clubs against modern military weapons it ACTUALLY becomes pointless, because you can't bleed them at all - they'll just shoot you with beanbags and rubber bullets and water cannons and microwave guns etc.

That is why having guns is so important.

you'd have to kill enough people to destroy the country.

American civilian gun owners are the largest army in the world by a factor of 10.

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It doesn't seem to be working in Chicago, goy.

Your entire argument is irrelevant because the American military has never done that and they will never do that. They will also prevent foreign militaries from doing that.

venezuela

People used to open carry hunting guns in their trucks..?....from nny how gun violence increased with government making laws to stop people carrying hunting rifles/guns.

No. Get out.

so we don't need guns because the american government has never actively preyed on it's citizenry?

even though governments actively preying on their citizenry is one of the oldest stories of history?

weak bait faggot
go back to R[edit]
sage

*If Conservatives put down their guns it'd be far easier for us Marxists to take over*

(you)

fuck you, die

Come and get em you fucking faggot.

>Now that I have proven that there is no need for guns
You haven't proven shit.

I see you still don't have the balls to stand up to your own leaders who are fucking you over.

Enjoy watching europs little girls riding Muhammad's dick.

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A 100% failure rate of governments across all of history and suddenly because it's (CURRENT YEAR) no governments will ever fail again?

Your country has more than 3 million muslims in it ... wtf you talking about?

Couldn't the US government could just sic the FBI or one of those hundred billion other homeland security agencies that the US has on its populace to make it look legal?

"Common sense" = (((Bloomberg))) weasel words.

KYS, faggot

>Legal guns
>Save tens of thousands of lives
Nigga what? Most people who die from guns are minorities shooting eachother over drugs with illegally obtained firearms.

Guns are fun. Nobody is gonna get my guns even tho i dgaf about muh lolbertarians and defend the republic types. I just love shooting and blowing shit up on the weekends.

spoilers: They already are. Most americans are in a cold civil war with their own government. Do you honestly think the CIA, NSA, FBI and the rest of the alphabet soup has their constituents best interests in mind?

The best way to figure out what a US agency does is look at the name, and figure out what the exact opposite is.

How can you have common sense anything with politicians with no common sense. You liberals want to threaten us and put us in "fun camps" or kill us because we don't agree with you, then tell us we don't need guns. Molan Labe mother f-er. You can have the lead first. MAGA

This is what extreme ignorance and naivety looks like.

Vietcong asshole!

Bunch of farmers with rifles and home made explosives.

>If America introduced common sense gun legislation
Mo such thing.

>tens of thousands of innocent lives could be saved every year.
Out firearm rights aren't subject to firearm deaths.

>The second amendment has become obsolete in 2017
Rights never become obsolete.

>America now has a powerful military with over a million soldiers whose job it is to protect the people.
The second amendment allows the people to protect themselves from the military.

>Now that I have proven that there is no need for guns

>If you need to be killed to potentially saved hundreds of people later down the road, so be it.
Thereby justifying our right to firearms.

>Your entire argument is irrelevant because the American military has never done that and they will never do that. They will also prevent foreign militaries from doing that.
And our firearms will ensure they never try it against the people.

>Your country has more than 3 million muslims in it ... wtf you talking about?
Muslims don't belong in White countries.
It is our right, it is not a need.

The Czechs Republic has a 'Second Amendment', yet has a gun homicide rate lower than Australia. maybe its not the guns but the cultural surrounding each gun owner. Cleetus and his cousins shooting cans with AR-15s are not the problem. Home boy ''rollin up on your mommas house to put some rounds in it'' are.

>Vietcong asshole!
>Bunch of farmers with rifles and home made explosives.
Communism is Jewish.
Gun Control is Jewish.
Coincidence?
I think not.

Checks + Balances = Freedom.

Find an equally effective check on the government to be held by the people and I shall gladly lay down my arms, kind sir.

Don't care.
Shall not be infringed.
We exist because living like you do sucks.

Why are yuropoors so obsessed with guns in America? If you don't like liberty, stay right where you are in your shitty, shitty Muslim overrun dump of a country. And mind your own fucking business.

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You talk like you're in a third world country.

t. England

So what. I want people to die.

The point stands nonetheless.

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american infrastructure is a hair away from being third world, sadly.

No idiot, giving up the second amendment doesn't mean taking guns from everyone it means surrendering to the total will of the government and police. Also zombies

Great question. You know... I think they like to feel smug and superior to Americans.

>America now has a powerful military with over a million soldiers whose job it is to protect the people. There is also an established and professionally trained police force to protect people.

You guys just don't get it. The majority of gun crime is done by niggers. Which are in areas with the strictest gun laws in the nation.

We get it. You're jealous that you cant have a gun to defend your daughter from Abdul. I'd say start a petition, but that would be racist to all those poor Muslims who just want to rape your daughter and kill your people, huh?

x50 actually
China is second in line with 2 million armed. America has 100 million armed citizens.

This is the strength of America and nobody will take it without bloodshed.

When exactly are the Vietcong going to invade US mainland and how will they get past the US military?

This is what other countries fail to understand. Life isn't so sacrosanct in the USA. Hence capital punishment, gun fanaticism, highest meat consumption in the world, not caring about civilian casualties during war, etc etc.

Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Mao were pro-gun.

Aren't most gun-related deaths in America just fatal accidents because dads don't keep their guns secured from their trigger-happy kids?

HEy britbong by the numbers of the immigrants you're getting you're 5 years from being one

>Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Mao were pro-gun.
Marx Lenin Trotsky were all Jews. Mao was controlled by Jews.

The people in those communist countries are not allowed to own firearms.

no, they're from inner city gangs stealing pistols and shooting each other.

But the gun problem is entirely portrayed as white people with rifles.

Curious no?

No, it's far too late for any kind of gun control. Although gun control is fucking stupid. You have 180million+ White Americans and 150million+ brown specimens. I could see the US becoming balkanized in my life.

>IT'S (CURRENT YEAR)
Just go and put yourself in the ditch already you piece of Eurotrash. While I'm at it, may as well say Jescze Polska nie Zginela! My forefathers didn't give up there, I won't give up here.

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Best way to bleed out America is to cause a civil war so that its own population turns on itself.

Keep sucking the media teat

that's such a sexy gun

>When exactly are the Vietcong going to invade US mainland and how will they get past the US military?
How will the military disarm the people without a civil war?

I really hate you gun grabbing, meme flag flying, little pukes. I realize you're probably a trollfag, but if I ever come across one of you in real life and you start spouting your bullshit about "common sense" i'm going to beat you so severely and so savagely, that you will WISH I had used a fucking gun. Fuck you OP. Fuck you and fuck the EU.

>If America introduced common sense anti-nigger legislation tens of thousands of innocent lives could be saved every year.

While they were, in their theory, but mind you in practice (in this case Marx doesn't count because he never enacted his ideas) they realized that most of what their system requires means controlling almost every aspect of life, and that means applying force on a mass scale, and that doesn't come easy when people have guns. Take the guns away, and you can do whatever you want with them.

REMINDER THAT GUN CONTROL DID FUCK ALL TO STOP THIS GUY FROM GETTING A GUN, DESPITE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND AND DISHONORABLE DISCHARGE
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It’s actually a clever subversion of a right wing meme. “Common sense” used to be a republican talking point to counter faggotry, welfare expansion and other progressive excesses. It’s textbook Alinskyism and it’s being done in an effort to convert the oldschool conservatives into gun-grabbers. The latest gun attack false flags targeted conservatives for this reason as well

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You don't get shit you eurofag fuckass. You really just don't get it, unless you're Swiss. But even then it's not really the same.

The cat is out of the bag. The guns are on my streets in my neighborhood. Legal and illegal. I'm not getting left out. I got what I need. If I have to defend my things from you, come at me.

I'm not interested in having the military disarm our country. I'm interested in passing common sense gun legislation to ban assault rifles so deranged people cannot kill rooms full of children or hundreds of people at a concert. I know you don't give a fuck since you have no personal connection to anyone killed in a mass shooting. You would feel differently if it was one of your family/friends killed.

>burgers killing eachother

what's wrong with this?

You Eurocuks are stupid.

Vietnam was invaded by a superpower and farmers kept that superpower tied up in a long costly war despite that superpower having tanks, helicopters, battleships, aircraft carriers, and stategic bombers.

Go back to commiefornia.

I agree that guerilla movements are effective but why do commies pretend like the NVA wasn’t the fourth largest military in the world at the time? They were the most heavily armed country in the third world by far

Great b8
Saged

Criminals don't turn in guns. Neither does the government. Because of that I'm getting mine.

>no need for guns in 2017 america

Pls

>If America introduced common sense gun legislation

if you could move to honduras where guns are illegal that would be great

you are one of 3 things:

1: you are a pussyfied beta male hipster with no testosterone
2: you are a fat ugly feminist cunt with no logic
3: you are a paid shill

now fuck off back to 2 chromosomes with that shit

Long live 'Merica
Long live guns
Long live Trump and Trump wall

Are you aware the US government passes out army field training manuals that contain the information required to build fully functioning explosives and IEDs?

Explosives and IEDs are much better weapons for large terroristic attacks as they don't kill you at the end, and you can engage in a protracted terror campaign. See IRA bombings, Unabomber, etc.

If you are truly interested in preventing mass attacks, why are you so silent about these manuals?

or we could make gang membership be an automatic death sentence, all violent crime committed with a weapon gets the death penalty.
bet that would fix it

Many of those lives don't need to be spared. Like when drug dealers kill each other. The cops call it a self cleaning oven. Haven't we artificially impeded natural selection enough already?

They would turn in guns if they were legislated to. Otherwise they would face lengthy prison terms.

Let's be fair. The US is a huge fucking place. If there's one mass shooting in Las Vegas, that's the equivalent to perhaps some terrorist driving over a dozen people.
Kinda tragic, but quickly forgotten a week later, simply because it really did happen somewhere far far away.

agreed. the US could do with more guns and more gun violence. a civil war would be great

Didn't work in australia. Didn't work with the texas church shooter.

finally someone who gets it

Guns weren't banned in PR China until the 1980s, long after Mao was dead.

You have to be trolling

>I'm not interested in having the military disarm our country.
Then how are you going to take our firearms?

> I'm interested in passing common sense gun legislation
No such thing.

> to ban assault rifles
Infringement upon our rights.

> so deranged people cannot kill rooms full of children or hundreds of people at a concert.
Our firearm rights are not subject to firearm deaths.

>I know you don't give a fuck since you have no personal connection to anyone killed in a mass shooting. You would feel differently if it was one of your family/friends killed.
No, I wouldn't. My rights are not up for debate.

My rights are not subject to someone else abusing those rights.

>didn't work in australia
top fucking kek.

Do some fucking research before you start trying to solve a whole country's problems. Fix your own shit.

fucking this. MORE guns, MORE violence!!!

i mean seriously, who doesn't enjoy watching burgers slaughter eachother?

From my cold dead hands faggot

Except the vast majority of those gun owners will always be on the same side

>They would turn in guns if they were legislated to.
Because no one murders thanks to the law making murder illegal, right?

>Otherwise they would face lengthy prison terms.
How would the people turn in firearms that which the government does not know they have?

I sincerely doubt it. You see, Americans understand the cost of liberty. We aren't ignorant, easily led, weak willed, softer than a jellyfish, eurotrash fuckmaggots, like you.

Criminals don't obey laws. That's why they're criminals. You must be from a real nice place. I'm not.

>i mean seriously, who doesn't enjoy watching burgers slaughter eachother?
To a certain degree, that is actually true.