Was 2004-2010 the golden age of anime?

was 2004-2010 the golden age of anime?

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"no"

No, it was the golden age of Sup Forums

God no, pre-2000s were

examples?

God no. The early 2000s were shit.

2006-2009 was the golden age

>new game
>NNB
>yuru yuri
>kinmoza
>flip flappers

Nigger, we're living in the golden age of anime right now (2015-2016)

>2004
>early 2000s

It counts as early in my book.

Late 80's were you stupid millennials.

There is no golden age. Watch more weekly shit, keep moving on.

Anime has always been shit.

60s to 80s were good, if there's a golden period it's the 80s, all downhill from 90s on

golden age was 74-83

Fuck no, golden age was already long gone by then. Bronze age, maybe, if you're being generous.

The golden age is now.

there hasn't been a single good anime this year

>golden age
>posts visual sleeping aid

When is the golden age of yuri?

I don't know but hyouka wa-..zzzz

>stupid millennials

Haha no I'm a member of generation Z, we will be taking over shortly. Look forward to neo-neo-Sup Forums

plebs

golden age start on a 7 end on an 8.

> 1997-1998

> 2007-2008

> 2017-2018

2017 looks like shit though

I'd say 2006-2011.

>looks infinity better than DBS

Why isnt this studio making it!?

79-99

>tumblr

How anyone with functioning eyes can think that is beyond me.
Craft peaked in the 90s, which is really the only objective thing to say.
Enjoy your two episode ova adaptation of a five novel series. I love the art of the era but it's mostly wasted on adaptations.

70-78 owns though, certainly better than the early 90s

in what way did the craft peak in the 90s?
~objectively~ speaking the economy crashed and anime suffered for it

2007

90s some tv series and definitely the OVAs still had budgets. so you got ridiculous shading, details, and fluid animation. not to mention quality original sound tracks, instead of pop idol inserts.

The 90s was the beginning of the proud 'pay them like its the 80s they'll work anyway' tradition.
Overall the industry expanded in the wake of Eva and it's production committee model. In fact it expanded in a way never before seen largely morphing into what we see today.

The only comparable event is the advent of dirt cheap digital production pushing out even more shows per year.

5 layer shading

>pay them like its the 80s they'll work anyway
what?

There was a glut of labor in the 80's so wages were low (especially considering the economic boom).
These low wages have persisted since the 80s even though the situation that created them is long, long past.

Yeah, but 70's are just too fucking old

2017 is the golden age

>anime hopping on the hollywood nostalgia / sequel / reboot bait bandgwagon
>good
You don't even realize what's happening.

and that makes the 90s the peak of animation in Japan?
>the industry expanded in the wake of Eva
>morphing into what we see today
Do you consider what we see today to be a good thing? Eva is fantastic and it paved the way for a lot of good shit, but I can think of far more important works in the past which changed the industry in more positive ways.

This desu senpai.

there are like two things I'm looking forward to, and if I had to put money on them I'd bet they'll suck
2017 will be the worst

The 2000s overall had the most good shows, anyone who says otherwise is just being contrarian

contrarian to what, your bad taste?

The "Golden Age" is usually whenever you got into anime, so you can look back on a bunch of 7/10 shit with nostalgia and call it a masterpiece.

so everyone saying 70s - 80s got into anime way back then?

the 1990s were extremely good because they had the most Megumi Hayashibara shows. Slayers, Blue Seed, Evangelion.

What did we get after 2000, Love Hina and Abenobashi? I mean Abenobashi is weird, and Love Hina certainly made its mark, but.

pretending to like cartoons from the 70s doesn't make you look smart user

how have you not watchd BRAIGER youtube.com/watch?v=BRHQjqtojwI

counterpoint: refusing to try shows from the 70s makes you look stupid

yo this OP fucking owns

I've watched most of them, not many shows were made back then

my first anime was Starblazers. I had to wake up at like 4am to watch it on some UHF broadcast station. then it was robotech, ronin warriors, VHS copies of copies of copies of fan subbed and pirated anime. Then Toonami happened in the 90s and it was good.

>I've watched most of them
sure you have
what are your favourites of the 70s and what are your favourites of the 00s?

dude it's yoshinori kanada. the man was a fucking genius. have you seen his credits animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1734

I just can't think of anything other than nostalgia could cause people to suddenly call something like Code Geass a masterpiece.

>Craft peaked in the 90's
>1990 - late 1995 deadzone

Objectively speaking, it peaked with Akira and the industry has yet to ever go up to that level. Ghost in the Shell was as close as it ever got.

It certainly was an age

They refused to realize it over the last few years, it surprises you that everyone has been Jibun WOOOOO'ing? They'll never learn. Never.

Gundam and Ashita no Joe and that's about it for the 70s

I don't like Lupin or Rose of Versailles and that other crap

of course, he's a legend

bad taste? presentism?

Moe ruined the whole industry, and it started gaining real mainstream traction in the first half of the first decade of the 21st century
If anything, 2004-2010 was the beginning of the dark age
We are living in the worst timeline

I really wanna put my penis inside of hotaru

nigga you have seen nothing at all, don't tell me the 00s is the best if you haven't given equal attention to every decade

where did all the cyberpunk go?

that's like saying Jurassic Park and Toy Story were bad because of all the bad movies after them that had CGI

A combination of all 3.

That, and the knee-jerk reaction of most Sup Forums-browsers and reddit users was the Meme potential a 3rd season has.

That's what this board has devolved to, what shit can generate the most memes.

we started living it
also cyberpunk is mostly tacky as fuck

>asks my favourites
>lists them
>n-no you haven't seen my obscure 70s anime that doesn't really exist but I need to pretend it does to hold up my argument

but I love me some 1980s retro future settings and floofy hair.

t. /m/

Someone doesn't know how animation works.

We're already living the Cyberpunk nightmare. We're just too lazy to bring our technology to that level.

No, he's telling you that your list is as shallow as your greentext sarcasm.

She's TEN (10), you pedo!

>peaked at Akira
Akira is written all over the 90s, even in the cheaper but not dirt cheap tv work at the end of cel. If I were to consider a single work for peak of the craft it would still be Akira, but twighlight cel is more impressive as a whole and that's the 90s.
>deadzone
Yeah there's less ova (which were mostly trash anyway) and tv anime is in a panic until eva but that's not really relevant to top of the line unicorns which are already by their nature unicorns.

To be honest I forgot I asked for favourites and I thought that was your "most of the 70s."
But really though, you've seen all of Dezaki? WMT? Future Boy Conan? all the mecha and sci-fi classics? you thought Lupin III was "crappy"?
If you've honest to god given it a shot then I can't and won't fault you, but I could never ever understand where you're coming from. Favourites of the 00s, since that's apparently the best?

I'd say you're on the right track. Late 90s for true "golden age", late 00's for "silver age".

Promise I'm not a nostalgia-fag.

>akira

excuse me

a challenger has appeared.

70s work is less impressive than what the nips were doing in the 60s and was a mini dark age that lasted until 84ish.
I mean I'm the "90's was the golden age of the craft" guy. If I could with a straight face claim GITS was more impressive I would.

You're right, I'm sorry. Komari (18) is much sexier.

what the fuck are you talking about?
haven't you heard?
JIBUN WOOOOOOOO

Outside of Toei Doga the 60s is a big blind spot for me, I'm afraid, but I'd definitely say what those guys were doing was brilliant. Was mostly only talking about TV with this guy though.
I don't speak nip and precious little is translated so I can only read about certain series, what about them is more impressive to you? Why would you consider the 70s a dark age? That baffles me

>No, it was the golden age of Sup Forums
This. Sup Forums has been going down the shitter. Especially since tripfags disappeared. It just feels stale and lifeless now.

>you thought Lupin III was "crappy"?
fine for what it is, but it's episodic so don't care
>Future Boy Conan
Dislike it, I dislike everything Miyazaki has worked on desu

>00s
FMA & Brotherhood
Ergo Proxy
Millennium Actress
FLCL
Redline
Monster
Planetes
Kaiji
Welcome to NHK
Gurren Lagan
Kaiba
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Samurai Champloo
Texhnolyze
Death Note

there's no accounting for taste, but I pretty much think yours is bad

fuck off and die

Unless this is ironic, if it is it's too subtle

>I dislike everything Miyazaki has worked on
But Cagliostro is so good.

70s is like an entire decade they stopped trying. The 60s were rather nascent but they were experimental, mostly on the back of Mushi's stuff.

I can sit there and watch the Yamato movie, flying high on an unprecedented level of attention and money, and cringe at how bad the production is.
>big blind spot
Just working though the Mushi movies is a good start. The 60s are like I said, nascent, there's not a lot you have to see to have a feel for the decade.

okay keep sucking that Miyazaki dick

The production's are themselves quality though anonymous. They have very few equals.

Even Ghibli haters like Oshii like accept what they make is fine quality, even if they don't like what it ends up telling.

>The production's are themselves quality
I don't disagree, I just think Miyazaki is a pompous far left idiot and this seeps into the themes of his animation

sick

I really disagree with how you've got the 70s pinned. You and I can both cherrypick of course, but you can hardly look at the classics of that era and say they didn't try.
As for Mushi Pro I've only seen Animerama which is like exit level, any early stuff you'd specifically recommend? I believe I've checked and the bulk (or all?) of their TV work hasn't been translated. Unfortunate, there's a lot I want to see

>this thread

60's anime: youtube.com/watch?v=LMhM4QSVGeo

Ignore the bgm, it's too hipstar to be on sakugabooru and this is the only video I could remember off the top of my head. Just use the bgm to remember how bad the yamato movie looks despite it having way more going for it. That's how I see the whole decade. More time and money than the last decade but somehow mostly worse.

Hue that's almost exactly like Oshii. He called Ghibli the Soviet Union a bunch in the 90s. I always thought he was reading too much into it to be honest.

...

That's definitely on the booru, Miyazaki right? Absolutely know it from somewhere.
But really, you don't think you're being a little silly typecasting an entire decade like that? What have you seen from the 70s that you liked? Why not take that as a point of reference over the Yamato movie?

>Won't experience late 90's or 2007-08 anime for the first time.
I'm trying real hard not to get hit with the life crushing nostalgia. First ones I watched when I started watching anime regularly.

I don't know but Chitanda is literally perfect.

>Especially since tripfags disappeared

What?

Fuck no, the absolute dark ages especially after 07

The golden age for anime was 80-88