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Why is Sup Forums against net neutrality??
Caleb Reyes
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Caleb Anderson
Are the Jews for it or against it? That's how I decide things
Justin Gonzalez
You're absolutely right. A pharmacist reviewing drug interaction data should be in the same lane as somebody watching cat videos on youtube.
Aaron Phillips
Because Sup Forums consists of a bunch of contrarian edgelords who would stop wiping their asses if they thought the Jews were behind toilet paper.
Chase Green
>using infographics instead of arguments
Maybe it's because we aren't in high school, and we aren't on Facebook?
Matthew Lewis
Jews are against it. Just look at who runs (((comcast)))
Nicholas Williams
ill be laughing when comcast makes you pay $50 a month just to access Sup Forums
Anthony Jenkins
Redpill on Net Neutrality
Back in the early 2010s, the public backbone had begun to get clogged by Google and Netflix moving so much data through the limited amount of lines. This greatly annoyed the mega-corps, and as such, they set out relationships with Comcast and AT&T to run direct lines between Google servers and Comcast servers, bypassing the backbone entirely. Accordingly, Comcast charged them extra for setting up these "fast-lanes."
But Google got greedy. When they saw how much they could influence public opinion with SOPA and PIPA, they started taking steps to reduce their own expenditures. They wanted access to their new fast lanes FOR FREE, so they lobbied the government and brainwashed the public into thinking that these fast lanes targeted anyone but themselves. That these fast lanes were threats to consumers, too.
Google had Comcast build them a toll road and then had the American government effectively nationalize the road. Comcast sucks for other reasons, but if you're seriously pushing Net Neutrality, congratulations on being a Google corporate mouthpiece.
Noah Brooks
Jews are behind toilet paper.
Elijah White
Lets just say your story is true. If NN is repealed, not only is google fucked, your average consumer is fucked too.
Who cares if google gets faster connections, if it means ISP's won't charge you more for accessing certain websites, like Sup Forums??
Ian Martin
They're for it, but that shouldn't matter. it's the DEMOCRATS USING REGULATION TO STRANGLE THE FREE-MARKET. Fuck that shit.
are you fucking kidding me? ZUCKERBERG, apple fags, tumblr guy, reddit fags
Read this:
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Cameron Miller
...becuase that happened until NN was enacted by Obama in 2014/2015?
yeah no.
Kayden Johnson
Hey no name calling, this is a Presbyterian Gummy Bear Mini Golf Server.
Jaxon Morgan
If you're not using a bidet in 2017 then its safe to assume you're a shitlord, literally.
Nathaniel Collins
Hmmmmm so how is nn bad again?
Logan Rodriguez
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Jackson Nelson
W... what if we just built more lanes?
Levi Edwards
Verizon started to do some cheeky shit to get the ball rolling, which is why NN is in place as it is today.
Jaxon Johnson
>The problem today isn’t the fast lanes. The problem is whether the ISPs will grow so large that they have undue control over the market for fast speeds—whether they can independently decide who gets access to what connection at what price.
Still sounds kind of fucked, dude.
Dominic Miller
This guy is lying through his teeth by the way
1. You cannot "clog" the internet.
2. No such infrastructure was set up as described
3. Google, Netflix, etc. bought datacenters/CDN's (content delivery networks) so they could provide their services locally without sending data over the backbone. They did this WITHOUT money from the ISP's - all on their own volition, in order to cut the ISP's slack on their old, stagnant, and outdated networks
4. Streaming services were paying for their data/bandwidth regardless. There was never a case where they didn't pay - you don't get internet access for free.
5. Telecoms have peering agreements between each other to determine how much x or y pays for whatever bandwidth or data. It isn't up to netflix to figure out peering agreements for the telecoms. They have to sort that shit out themselves rather than demanding netlfix or google pay for their infrastructure stagnation and fuckups
At this point in time it's a non-problem. Netflix etc. solved the issue with CDN's. The Telecoms want to ban CDN's to force companies like netflix to use their backbone so they can be charged more. It's ridiculous, inefficient, and stupid, but it would make the Telecoms more money.
Alexander James
>that image
But you need freeways to be like that in big cities. two toll/HOV lanes and two public lanes. Otherwise the whole thing would bog down at rush hour.
Thomas Jenkins
>You cannot "clog" the internet.
There sure as shit is a physical limit to the amount of data that can be transferred at once.
Everything else is just as wrong.
Lucas Rodriguez
Because if you have to pay extra to access certain sites, it means less normies on Sup Forums.
Jacob Powell
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Liam Watson
shills can't meme
Dominic Nguyen
I saw someone else write this in another thread with a bit different rewording. Hello shill faggot.
Eli Taylor
what's really going on
don't let reddit niggers fool you into thinking otherwise
Josiah Lewis
Fucking shill.
I'm convinced that Sup Forums is full of bots/shills at this point. There's no other explanation for FCC support. Back in 2012 we lead campaigns in favor of net neutrality.
Christian Jenkins
By your analogy we should let people drive 50mph on fast lane?
Gavin Bell
youtube.com
get educated
Anthony Brooks
that meme literally doesn't make sense
Thomas Miller
contrarianism
Juan Ross
Implying any ISP would provide Sup Forums. Once you get rid of the free internet SJWs could pressure ISPs into dropping "dangerous" websites.
You're a shill/bot.
Nathaniel Bennett
>all the actual shills itt
Thomas Phillips
Do you guys realize that if there is no net neutrality you would have to PAY YOUR ISP TO SHITPOST ON Sup Forums?
Luke Butler
Giving the largest users of data subsidies and protection from competition
Landon Garcia
this
Levi Miller
Johnny Reddit is more of a kike than the literal fucking CEO of Comcast
the same "source" also has
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check your shit before you speak
Jaxon Cox
Did we have to before net neutrality? No? Hmm really makes me think.
Owen Hernandez
Equality is a false God
James Myers
Get educated
B-but nothing was censored before! Thats because Verizon wasnt able to openly be asses about doing it.
The FCC had a rule that got challenged in court by Verizon in 2010 that PREVENTED ISPs from THROTTLEING OR BLOCKING WEBSITES.
Verizon won the case, only on the margins that telecommunications services needed to be reclassified as a utility (Title II) in order for a rule like that to be upheld.
This led to the massive NN debate that got us the rules in 2015.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Also:
Comcast Corp. v. FCC 2007
In 2007, Free Prenss, Public Knowledge, and the FCC filed a complaint against Comcast's Internet service. Several subscribers complained/(and)The Commission believed that Comcast had "significantly impeded consumers' ability to access the content and use the applications of their choice"--Comcast complied with this Order but petitioned for a review and PRESENTED SEVERAL OBJECTIONS-in 2008, Comcast amended their Acceptable Usage Policy and announced a new bandwidth-throttling plan.
ISPs have slowly over the years been eating away at laws that protect against throttling and them not being able to control what content you see.
You fools need to realize corporations only care about their own interest
In surveys by the American Customer Satisfaction Index, XFINITY has had the lowest customer satisfaction ranking of any company or government in the U.S. for year-XFINITY’s online forums are full of pages of customers complaining of throttling, especially on upstream speeds.
Time Warner Cable has come under fire for throttling YouTube videos, an issue they defended by explaining video buffering is “the way the Internet works.
Cox has a history of throttling their Internet during congested periods. In the past, they have also set usage limits on broadband accounts, granting more usage to customers who pay for upgraded service.
cabletv.com/blog/your-objective-guide-to-internet-throttling
Daniel Ramirez
Why would anyone think that "equality" and "neutrality" are good things?
Adrian Cox
Huh.... what if we started using aircraft?
Aaron Johnson
So much this. We should be pushing the government to end ISP monopoly rather than more government control.
Zachary Jenkins
The US was under the assumption that net neutrality laws applied for 30 years going. It wasn't until Verizon won a lawsuit about it that the rules no longer applied to them. They promptly began fucking everyone over:
2005 - Madison River Communications: Blocked VOIP services before the FCC put a stop to it.
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2007 - Comcast: Caught forging packets to interfere with user traffic
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2007-2009 - AT&T: Blocked Skype and other VOIP services which competed with their cellphone plans
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2011 - MetroPCS: Tried to block all streaming except YouTube
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2011 - Multiple ISPs: Caught hijacking search traffic to increase affiliate revenue
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2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon: Blocked access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit
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2012 - Verizon: Demanded Google block tethering apps on Android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction.
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2012 - AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money.
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2013 - Verizon: Literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.
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2017 - Verizon: Caught throttling customer data in direct violation of FCC Net Neutrality rules
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Levi Myers
It's good to see genuine a libertarian here who isn't a shill for the ISP anti-free market monopolies.
Thomas Torres
>i would rather have private websites and corporations have complete control over me and fuck me five ways from sunday with no repercussions whatsoever than pay an additional 32 cents a month to my ISP who will stop at nothing to keep my business
Isaac Bennett
>implying
I let the shit dry on and around my asshole then wash it off in the shower
Nathan Reed
So nobody could do it for free...
Christopher Jackson
Those are both cancer.
Elijah King
>A tiny couple kb text file
>needing a bigger and faster connection than anything else
>It's now a problem and not in the prior 25 years
Grayson Campbell
Why aren't you using a bidet you disgusting shitty ass motherfucker?
Gavin Adams
ill make it clear why net neutrality is shit
>comcast knows whats better for me
>caring about censorship is reddit shit, if something gets censored theres a good reason usually
>it'll piss off liberals
>net neutrality just means internet is more expensive, less poor faggots flooding the internet
>weeds out faggoty small buisnesses that nobody cares about since they wont be able to pay off verizon/comcast
Lucas Jones
>implying we wipe our asses
Jack Fisher
no fucking tiers please, fuck off with that shit
Luke Jones
Mainly because it pisses off liberals.
Like I could explain why I think NN is shit, but that's really much more effort than just being contrarian.
Austin Martinez
Ajit Pai: Absolutely. My top line message when it comes to regulation is that the FCC should preemptively regulate only in cases where we have a market failure. If in the context of the internet we did see a market failure, we saw ISPs all over, of all sizes, behaving in uncompetitive ways, if we saw consumer being harmed, those are the kinds of things that we would want to take account of. We certainly don't want to see that and my prediction is that these rules will actually take us in the opposite direction from that. They'll promote more investment and competition.
HE IS AGAINST SMALL BUSINESSES, HE ISNT A LIBERTARIAN YOU ANCAP RETARD.
Brody Jackson
Because your a nigger.
sage
Ryan Cook
*You're
Isaiah Rogers
shells?
Michael Anderson
>not using a wet 100% cotton towel that you wash in boiling water and cleaning it every week
>wasting all that money
I bet you don't pee in the sink either
Owen Hughes
Because fuck the peasants. If I can pay extra to remove them and speed my connection up you bet your ass I will.
Camden Parker
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Josiah Williams
This is why I'm on the fence and don't know whether or not NN is good or bad. I can't tell who is jewing who. All these different arguments but no one can read what the actual bill is? Like obongocare
Levi Johnson
It looks like there has been a Jew deadlock.
Joshua Long
It's literally this simple:
Net neutrality, as it currently stands in law, requires ISP's like Comcast and AT&T to treat all internet traffic equally regardless of content. That means ISP's cannot restrict access to Sup Forums. Or slow down Netflix in favor of their own movie streaming service
Ayden Carter
Wait, are you telling me 20 more shekels a month is all it takes to kick out all the plebeians out of Sup Forums?
Adrian Jackson
Pol will be ded
Blake Nguyen
All Im doing is reading the court cases
Aiden Brooks
Why would they bother restricting access on a tiny site like this? If anything Anti-NN sounds like they want people on smaller sites
Dominic Young
If they can charge Facebook for bandwith, what would stop them from charging any website with a sizeable userbase?
Bentley Robinson
If youtube uses more bandwidth is because people use youtube a lot. So what's the big deal? Nobody's using your "small business" bullshit page, and nobody gives a fuck about it. Fuck your socialist "equality box to peep over the wall" crap.
Asher Green
they could restrict it if they don't like the content, find it controversial, it competes with one of their own services, or find people shittalking them/doing any activism/talking about movements that go against their own interest.
Daniel Williams
God damn I can only hop you didn't get money to make those.
0/10
Carson Turner
>Net neutrality, as it currently stands in law, requires ISP's like Comcast and AT&T to treat all internet traffic equally regardless of content. That means ISP's cannot restrict access to Sup Forums. Or slow down Netflix in favor of their own movie streaming service
I get that but my main issue is everyone posting memes abs paragraphs of text but no one knows what's in the bill yet? That is only going to be seen when it gets voted on?
I saw, interesting stuff I'll look at all the articles in a bit. I appreciate you posting those of past incidents. those like the one Verizon case got the ball rolling for NN? I'm sorry I'm a bit of a retart and could use a little nudge in the right direction. This shit isn't easy for me to draw a conclusion on when there's so much shitflinging and misinformation being spread. Once again I appreciate you posting those articles
Xavier Sanders
Shit, they're don't shitty attempts at impersonating us and targeting boomers with deliberate disinfo
Justin Lewis
>just build more lanes
Who's going to pay for the lanes user?