Islam WTF

Islam ruled Spain for 700 years. It was tolerant of all religons, had plumbing, libraries and universities.

what the fuck happend to the good islam? Oil?

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good question

Niggers. Arabs used converted North African/Berber niggers to fight for them.

Arabs became Sherry/Wine drinking faggots and they let the niggers get powerful.

The niggers were angry when they figured out the Arabs gave them the shittiest land in Spain.

They rebelled. Prissy Arabs teamed up with the Christian White Man to fight off the nigger hordes but there were too many.

Niggers kicked out the Arabs and Muslim parts of Spain went to shit.

Umayyad... like UAE/Qatar sandniggers. Were into fast horses and partying.

Almoravids... Taliban niggers. Made up of mostly North Africans.

>It was tolerant of all religons, had plumbing, libraries and universities

this is fake and gay

jihad happenend

they went sort of crazy after the second crusade even destroyed a lot of great things from the old world

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Andalus

read a book nigger.

Argentines aren't white btw

No such thing as "good" islam user. It tolerates others religions by making them pay a special "tax" which may or may not garauntee ones safety.

Kek

Never change Sup Forums

it was wave after wave of fundamentalist rulers and civil wars between islamic leaders

only one of them built universities and libraries, but they were destroyed by the leader who succeeded him

Conquest was needed for Islam to survive and flourish.The Muslim overlords acquired the non-muslims wealth in the form of jizya, dispossession and as slaves to fund their wars and standard of living.

But over time this diminished,So basically after 2-3 centuries after conquest Islam effectively becomes a very regressive stifling culture that produces little of worth.

>read a book
>links wikipedia

are you fucking retarded?

Arabs are heavily mixed with niggers and inbred on top of that. Anything good “from islam” came from racial Celt-Iberians, Persians and seculars.

Mongols happened, fucking wrecked in the arab pussy forever.

It never really existed

see the little numbers after the sentences? scroll to the bottom. they correspond to books. that you can read. but your a nigger so you cant read but i tried.

>Islam ruled Spain for 700 years. It was tolerant of all religons,
Pure propaganda.

Islam is fucking garbage & Jews just agitated them further.

amazon.com/Myth-Andalusian-Paradise-Christians-Medieval/dp/1610170954

Funny enough, Jews opened the physical doors to the city during the invasion.

>Niggers
>In Spain

Either anglo or kike.

Islam enslaves experts in other fields. They stole intellectual capital from Europe and Asia. Every one of their so called inventions can be traced back to prior cultures. They were violent collectors at best.

Good Islam ran the show in the 1000s and 1100s

But then they lost their shit and started burning books and whatnot.. good Islam was slowly replaced with retarded Islam, now that's mostly what we have left

Mongol Invasion

Andalusian "golden age" only lasted from 929-1031.

That's when the Arabs went ultra gay.

Al-Andalus started to fracture in 1031. Then Arab ruled collapse completely around 1091. The Moors took over and it went to shit.

This.

>Islam ruled Spain for 700 years. It was tolerant of all religons, had plumbing, libraries and universities.
he fell for marxist academia subversion
its ok user

The west decided to support wahhabi/salafi organizations instead of secular nationalist like the Ba'ath party in order to keep the middle east unstable and moishe happy.

read this OP
since you seem fond of telling people to read books
you might as well get started with one not written by a kike or a useful idiot

That is untrue actually, that if what (((they))) want you to believe.
amazon.com/Myth-Andalusian-Paradise-Christians-Medieval/dp/1610170954

instead of looking into Greek scrolls and the sky for knowledge they started to look into the Qur'an only. While Italy brought the Renaissance the T*rks and other sand people regressed into only caring about religious dogma.

It might make you think "what a bunch of dumb sandniggers", but the same thing is happening in many fields of western academia, there are things they now refuse to research because of dogma.

Berbers aren't blacks. Islam collapsed because it's a shit tier religion that praises ignorance (insert edgy fedora tipper here)

>tolerant of all religions
>even though they only took slaves from non-muslims
>even though they chopped those slaves balls off
>even though they just took over the Christian libraries that were already there
>even though that conflict lasted over 700 years and involved countless dead Iberians and their constant repression

Kill yourself Cenk.The Islamic Golden Age never existed.

>see the little numbers after the sentences?
>hurrr I know this site is SJW propaganda
>so you should read the books the propagandists recommend instead
words can't express of fucking retarded you are OP
Islam was always shit.
Arabas were always shit.
Whatever "good" happened in the caliphate was done by converts from Persia and Greece.

Stop repeating shit you learned on /r/TIL
Better yet never make a thread again.

you live in the third world. you are a nigger. im surprised you have internet.

Muslim Kangs had a strange fetish for kidnapping the children of non-muslims, castrating them, and then raising them to be the elite soldiers of the army. The main two sources of the non-muslim slave boys would be either Niggers or snow Niggers (slavs).

I'd be surprised if you know where Argentina is.

somewhere on that nigger continent that nobody cares about except once every 4 years because of soccer

>crusading to spain
>establishing the greatest slave trade in history
>"dey r gud bois, dey dindu nuffin"

Seriously,what the fuck is wrong with you, mate?

Who told you that and why did you believe them?

Watch the movie "Time of Violance" about life under muzzies in Europe.

Also any movie before 2000 more acurately depicted muzzies in general.

Wahabism and strife

Consanguinity caught up with them

>be american
>praise islam

this

Berbers aren't black you idiot

>somewhere on that nigger continent
There are countries that use "six-continent combined-America mode" considering America as one continent. so your statement checks out.

Mongols destroyed their collected knowledge and made them retarded.
Arabic was the default language of science in the greater region for a time so modern Muslims pretend they're responsible for all of it.

islam used to be a science rich culture, then someone said math was evil and it all went to hell.

>It was tolerant of all religons, had plumbing, libraries and universities.
false
shill fuck off
no, its not
mobile.nytimes.com/2003/09/27/arts/was-the-islam-of-old-spain-truly-tolerant.html?referer=

this board has a general about the US president. 99% of the world population cant find argentina on a map. "argentina" is italian for silver mine. the fucking language is spanish from the white folk who fucked raped and plundered the niggers living there. argentines beg to be called white.

congrats you fell for the al andalus meme.

The tolerance argument implies that islam is the superior religion and it has never been tolerant...you either paid a tax, left your own country or became a slave

American subversion and Jewish imperialism happened to good Islam

Dumbass. It was the civilization s that Islam conquered that were responsible for that. As the years passed by and their native culture was lost they became more Islamic. It takes time for Islam to digest a country after all. Just look at north Africa before, soon afterwards, and a long time after islaminization.

>It was tolerant
This is a myth.

The Myth of the Andalucian Paradise is a helpful book if I recall the title.

Yeah Islam was so loved in Spain that's been through every single one of them out.

This is no different from the rest of the medieval world, its like those commie faggot apologists that say communism brought education to many despite killing millions, when the rest of the world did it withiut the mass killings.

>Islam ruled Spain for 700 years. It was tolerant of all religons, had plumbing, libraries and universities.
Yeah, and where is Spain/Portugal now compared to the non-Islamic countries in the region?

They were tolerant of people who payed the dimmy tax.

They never really recovered did they?

this is what elite wants people to believe, islam is always islam and hasnt changed, the religion doesnt change thats the beauty of it, people change and can be influenced, this is an extremely important point,

american subversion and jewish imperialism have changed people, not islam. it is people who can be manipulated and changed, a book with a set of rules which hasnt changed since inception hasnt changed, people have changed the way they adopt the teachings etc..

mainstream media wants to make it seem as if there are types of islam, this is in order to make an arguement of how islam has changed and compare it to other religions which have been changed.

>ruled Spain

Spain didn't really exist until after the Reconquestia. Before that it was Roman Hispania and Visigoths.

>golden age
The benefit of inheriting intellectual capital, and being in the center of trade routes in Eurasia.

See

Stuff like this cascades into other decisions. Culture and ideas can survive a very long amount of time even under oppression of it. The crusades into the Baltics converted people to Christianity. There were many different people holding the land here, yet the main population still stayed the same. They still had their distinctive culture after several hundred years.

The Ottoman became the top dog and forced most of them to obey them.
The Brits in WW1 gave wahabists power to fight the Ottoman.
The wahhabists started spreading some backward medieval era teaching in the area.
The US gave them power in Afghanistan and other areas around it to fight the Taliban.
The Wahabists and the Taliban prefer an illiterate angry mob to rule.
So they went from low Caucasian tier to nigger tier.
Pic related. Its women in Afghanistan in 1960 before the US saved them from Communism by giving them to radical wahabists.

>Its women in Afghanistan in 1960
Yeah, because of Western influence. Not because it's somehow the real Afghanistan. The real culture of Afghanistan is primitive and Islamic.

Why is Estonia so Atheistic?

Soon it will rule over Finland. That's when you will realize that Russia are the good guys and must be friends with them, but it will be too late.

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>Yeah, because of Western influence. Not because it's somehow the real Afghanistan. The real culture of Afghanistan is primitive and Islamic.
Currently yes, but back then it was not. Back in the 60s women had more freedom in the Islamic world.
youtu.be/_ZIqdrFeFBk
Example of Women freedom in Egypt in the 1950s. I know women that lived in Egypt, Afg..., and lots of other ME areas and they all say the same. Hell, they even showed me family pictures of them in the 50s/60s where they were in shorts/bikinis/skirts.

Because these religions were brought here with fire and sword. On top of that the people bringing it here basically enslaved the population (indentured servitude). So when the Soviets were heavily against religion Estonians were like "fine" and the current generations simply didn't grow up with any religious beliefs or religion.

I've been inside a church a few handfuls in my entire life. Most of them as a tourist and a the rest during a funeral.

Ugh no, Islam terrorized and raped Spain for a little while The La Reconquista solved the final little hodlout the initial destruction of the farthest inroad aggression occurred by Charles Martel FAGGOT

Because life and politics centers around beachware...

The resurgence of Islam and Islamism (and Egypt is a great example) was a reaction against that freedom because it was seen as a degenerate Western influence that corrupted Muslim purity.

The Almohads and Almoravids weren't tolerant at all they expelled almost all of the Jews and Mozarabic Catholics to northern Spain or enslaved them in morocco

Incest

HAHAHAHA
that fucking image

Elves.

Mongols.

It's all part of Muhammad's creed that the reason that his and the Salaf (the original Muslims converted by Muhammad) were so successful in conquering so much territory was not because the Byzantines and Persians exhausted themselves in a 25 year long grueling war of attrition but because of God's divine favor. The Quran unambiguously correlates military success with divine favor. Since Mohammad was so unprecedentedly successful in his movement of camelfuckers against established civilizations, it stood to reason that Allah was an instrumental part of this success. So for the first several hundreds of years, Islam was a very confident and progressive religion (relatively). So long as they continued to have temporal and secular success, there was no need for Muslims to question their fealty to Islam.

Then the Mongols showed up.

By all accounts, what happened was that the Golden Horde showed up on some periphery of the Muslim sphere of influence and demanded their submission and providing of tribute. Given their clear military superiority, the ruler of the region decided to submit and install Khanate tax collectors. Then, when the Horde had left, murder the tax collectors. When the Khan (Hugalu Khan) sent envoys demanding an explanation of where his tribute was, the ruler then killed the envoys.

Hugalu Khan was so pissed off at this unprecedented violation of all diplomatic norms that he decided to implement the Final Solution for all of Islam. He would go on to slaughter that ruler, his kingdom, all surrounding kingdoms, until he reached the seat of the Abbasid Caliphate) in Baghdad and raze that city to the ground.

In all, between the genocide and displacements, an estimated 20 million Muslims were exterminated at the hands of the Mongols, as well as the seat of Islamic religious and secular authority.

Now imagine that inflicted among a religion that says God ensures the pious win battles.

Not really Wahhabist have been after power for a long time:
>>The Wahhabi War was fought from early 1811 to 1818, between Egypt Eyalet under the reign of Muhammad Ali Pasha (nominally under Ottoman Empire rule) and the army of the Emirate of Diriyah, the First Saudi State, resulting in the destruction of the latter.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_War
Islamists won after the British empire gave them power and the Ottoman empire collapsed and no strong power was in the area to keep them in check. In addition, massive amount of Jews coming with a lot of support from the West made them feel that the West wanted to destroy their countries for the Jews. Which is why so many of them supported Hitler in WW2.

Islam was always Posion don't fall for the Islamic golden age meme because that is nothing more but a Half truth because even during the "dark age" Europeans Excell with University, engineering and most importantly art. The only reason why you see Islam in the middle age as some great thing is because the way it has been teach at school when in reality they were no different than the Europeans during that time except the religious beliefs system and cultures.
Also the caliphate have in Invaded Europe more than the crusades invading Jewtown

Not really what? I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue at this point. My point was that the freedom you see in photographs from a few decades ago is not the result of Islam but the result of Western influence on Muslim countries. And that is a fact. Such freedom did not rise from Islam nor was it encouraged by Islam, it was enabled by a brief abandonment of Islamic social mores.

As might be predicted, when your religion 1) was nearly exterminated to a man at the hands of the Mongols and 2) also believe that ideological deviation results in no longer having God's favor in military battles, the reaction was a massive, all-consuming fear against any ideological deviation from what Muhammad preached. It's never gone away since.

This is not helped by Islamic doctrine itself, which at its core is structured around the concept of /takfir/, deviation from the word of God. God sent Adam and Moses and Jesus and many other prophets who were all Muslims, but their message was corrupted over the centuries by 'innovators'. That is why Muhammad is sent. This is also why shit fell apart within 20 years of Muhammad's death.

its brevity can be entirely blamed on the west as well.
And I don't recall Christianity encouraging "progressive" social ideals. You're nitpicking Islam.

They got rekt by mongols

Big time

Also pic related: their religion is basically one insane pedo fag who made shit up on the fly

>tolerant and shit

They were never like that, anything they had they stole it from other civilizations

Since then they been killing each other most of the time

Yeah, everything OP "knows" about Islam is a lie. Read The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise.

youtube.com/watch?v=McAeQiLmEYU

American model larping as Turk.
Looks like no turk I've ever seen. WTF.

my bad. this is a turk.

So is she a she or has a dick?

This sounds like my Millenial cousins when they talk about history. They just pull random turds out of their ass and string them together.

Anzujammu is a real girl.
And if she had a penis it would be feminine anyway, so it doesn't matter.

>Points to Wikipedia
>”Read a book”

Sigh...

Each Race Use Religions Differently

>56%

Whats fake or gay about it?

Andalus being "tolerant" is a meme but it was certainly a more tolerant than the rest of Europe (Except when a king needed needed kikes for usury).

I draw the line at "having a penis" but I wouldn't mind marrying her even if I have to like in turkroachistan

BTW post moar plox

the problem was probably the arabs, if you look through muslim histroy, they've been fucking shit up from the very beginning, and since they were the first to convert simply because of location, they continued to meld Islam with their fucked up traditions. fucked it up for the rest of us

>what the fuck happend to the good islam?
The fact that it invaded a good portion of
the world by force should be evidence enough
that it is not good and never was. It's been murderous since day 1. In fact, Muhammad's
revelation came to him during an act of murder.

Mongol happened.

incorrect, his first revelation came to him in a cave, check your history hoe

>first

> fellow burger logic
you do know that most "turks" like 80-70% of the population are native Anatolians and people from the Balkans right?
The "Turks" only invaded Turkey with about 100,000 soldiers.

Those nomadic Turks lived in the outskirts of the city in their little yurts and many of them went back to central asia.
The Ottoman Empire was mostly a white empire but it was Islamic instead of Christian.
Look at all of the Ottoman Sultans, all of them were white as were the Janissaries and mostly all people in high positions of power.