“How good it is, when you have roast meat or suchlike foods before you, to impress on your mind that this is the dead body of a fish, this the dead body of a bird or pig.”
-Marcus Aurelius
When will you stop killing another life that can look right you in the eye, just before you kill it, just to sustain your own?
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plants don't have life ?
I like watching it die, you fucking vegan subhuman piece of shit. I like seeing it take it's last breath.
sage
>can look right you in the eye
What plants do you have? Pokemons?
MARCUS AURELIUS PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS
Never
t. Uncivilized unwashed barbarian
It's definitely a good mindset to have, especially should society collapse and we find ourselves having to slaughter our own meat again. After all, we're consuming other life forms, sentient even.
But barring that, nah
Maybe because he was a traditionalist who just wanted to protect his culture, yet from one of the commentaries of the book of meditations it said that Marcus did not order the death of Christians nor utter persecution, he gave them the chance to spread their religion due to the temples of the old gods being abandoned.
*abstain from spreading
> it said that Marcus did not order the death of Christians nor utter persecution, he gave them the chance to spread their religion due to the temples of the old gods being abandoned.
Typical plebbitor, he regurgitates what he is told like a parrot anddoes not read and assess new information that challenges him
>MARCUS AURELIUS PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS
BASE!
This plant eats meat. Where is your ve-god now?
Do not keep saying I am wrong because I will make mroe of these
How is this a bad thing?
I eat corpses, fuck off
This is written by a retard you know that right? I mean just the writing alone. Did you write it for Sup Forums?
>DESU DESU DESU
Oh, it was. This was written by Christians for Sup Forums to attack Stoicism? WOW! You Rabbi worshipers are so insecure and fucked in the head.
>Stoics are Communists
>Science existed in Roman times
LOL!
>You should revere the lives you take to sustain yourself, because all things in nature must kill to survive.
Was that really so hard? Go away you vegan shill.
>I write my book
>LEL is literal reply
because that's how sustenance works, flip macaco
You left out the part where Jesus qoutes Seneca and Paul has a nice time with the Stoics and Epicureans.
Your paranoia is fucking up your knowledge of the bible. Lay off the chan world for awhile.
Jesus cannto quote seneca and paul Kek you should know your timeline HISTORIAN
All I eat is meat pretty much. Zero carb. Best thing I ever did for myself.
This should be titles
JEWS AGAINST THE STOICS
Women drop way bigger turds than men.
must be some evolution for anal sex?
The argument is always that animals are sentient or conscious, thus it's bad to kill them. That's always just just kind of accepted as bad and the argument is then whether animals are indeed sentient or not, why the hell is 'don't kill sentient life' taken as a fundamental law? Ive never seen an argument about why we shouldn't do it. Not killing humans has lots of motivation, basically coming back to self preservation of the individual and the group as a whole, but why is it even as inherently bad to kill other species even if sentient?
Dude you write like a retard. I can't understand what you're saying. Paul talked with the Stoic in the bible.
And Jesus qouted Seneca in what Christians call "The golden rule"
Potatoes have eyes.
All animals are morally inferior to humans. Thats it. Factory farming helps make food cheaper helping the poor. I dont give a fuck about the wellbeing of chickens and cows.
Remember that the Stoic rejected Paul?
Cicero was not a Stoic
>why the hell is 'don't kill sentient life' taken as a fundamental law?
empathy
Kill niggers you're in South Africa.
>My timeliine isn't off
Yeah its still off
What do you mean with "morally inferior"? Humans have moral agency, this means we can actually factor in if something is right or wrong before making the decision.
Most meateaters wouldn't eat meat if they had to kill it on there own.
>Cicero
>not a Stoic
He's in your fucking anti-Stoic memes Christcuck!
Yeah Cicero was a Stoic actually. That's well known.
>Remember that the Stoic rejected Paul?
No they didn't actually. Fuck dude you're pathetic. I have to teach Christians their own bible all the fucking time. It's pathetic. You don't really believe in your Rabbi god. I just proved it. You don't even know the bible. You're shitposting on chans because you're mentally ill and want to convert people into worshiping Jews - namely white people because you're not white more than likely.
I dont know what you're saying. You can't write for shit. Are you a nigger? Are you drunk?
I'm Vegan because it's healthier not because I give a shit about animals that don't give a shit about me.
I'm tired of all these faggots staining veganism.
No he wrote Paradoxa Stoiciorum
AGainst Stoics
He wrote De Finibus de Bonorum et Malorum
Against Stoics
He wrote De Natura Deorum
Against Stoics
Now it is true taht Cicero did agree on certain priciples exlusive to Stoicism, but he distanced himself from Stoicism because it was the meme
>be vegan libcunt
>killing is wrong
>abortion is OK
makes total sense
>All animals are morally inferior
Morals are bullshit laws for civilization.
Animals have one law as Kippling wrote in the Jungle Book.
"kill to surivive"
Humans kill for no reason but degeneracy. Animals kill for either food or practice for getting food (house cats) or self defense. Animals are more moral.
I love soy
illuminati scum he was right?
>No he wrote Paradoxa Stoiciorum
>AGainst Stoics
NO YOU FUCKING RETARD
That was in defense of the Stoics. God damn you're stupid
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Faggot soyboy
>illuminati scum he was right?
The fuck?
I would love to subscribe to your ideaology but meat is what allowed us time to innovate.
soyboys cannot be civilized and no one cares about you
Read Paradoxum 5 and 6
how good indeed
marcus aurelius is my nigga
>When will you stop killing another life that can look right you in the eye, just before you kill it, just to sustain your own?
Never? Also Just because I kill it doesn't mean I plan to eat it..
Paradoxon right learned man?
Yes, us humans have a lot of motivations to not kill each other. But the basis of all that comes from the simple fact of our consciouness. Our consciouness has allowed us to be sentient, because we are conscious we avoid pain, we don't want to die. So it's quite evident that we place a value on sentience. If not, then why would we care for pain & suffering? If you didn't value sentience, then why do you as human feel bad when taking another humans live? Is it because you've killed someone from your own species or is it because you, yourself know the inherent value of sentience and that causing pain & suffering is wrong?
Nigga u gay
The things that Cicero agreed on Stoics were of two categories
>Things that the Jews ALSO agree on because it is written word for word in the Bible
>Things that are cuckoldry
But yeah he disagreed with a number of things in Stoicism and he was a memelord
This is evidently a false statement, considering that we don't need meat to survive nor does meat consumption correlate to increased intelligence.
Refer to III
Why do you think morals are bullshit? Morals aren't laws, what you're speaking of is Moral norm. Which would differ from moral in itself.
I have a 20lb turkey soaking in the fridge, you ever looked into the eyes of a turkey? There is nothing there, just black, beady nothingness, animals have no souls, except dogs everyone knows that
STOP KILLING BREATHING BLEEDING ANIMALS YOU SICK BASTARDS!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IF YOU WANT TO FEEL MANLY, INSTEAD OF EATING MEAT JUST EAT ONIONS YOU SAVAGES!!!
You sir
are a bafoon. And a;so a berry picker. How do you feel about that boy?
Not news or politics. sage, report, hide yo kids
I am sentient. I enjoy living. I would assume the same of other sentient animals. Survival situations are different
everyone has persecuted Christians, they are the most persecuted people in history
Caligula didn't nor Tiberius neither did Claudius
I’m a loser baby so why don’t youkill me?
I suppose that's your opinion. But do you think people place importance on doing what's the best for them? We already know most people clearly don't care about their own well-being to the extent that they would do what was logically the best decision/lifestyle for them to choose.
That being said, the moral argument and the health argument are equally important. We're speaking of mass-slaughtering of sentient beings. If we were to reverse the roles, it would be seen as a catastrophy and a tragedy.
Stoics are commies
easy, cut their eyes out before killing them
WHY ARE YOU LARPING AS NAZIS WHEN YET YOU LIKE KILLING ANIMALS?
YOUR IDOL HITLER,IS A VEGETARIAN FFS!
HAHA stop writing
You suck at it
CHRISTIANITY = GLOBALISM = COMMUNISM = JEWS
I suppse that would be quite good. Assuming i'm actually a berry picker that would require me to live somewhere where I could pick berries right? So i'd live in the country side and pick berries and enjoy nature. So I really don't see how that's supposedly something bad? That being said if i'm such a "bafoon" then it shouldn't require that much effort to refute any of the claims I make? Right?
>It is written thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
It's always funny when I think things like this and wonder "Am I the only one who thinks about things like this?" and then long ago, some man felt the same things I did back then and wondered the same things.
>When will you stop killing another life that can look right you in the eye, just before you kill it, just to sustain your own?
Are you stupid? That phrase is about respecting what you eat, not abstaining from it.
>a philosophy totally and utterly based around taking responsibility for yourself
>communism
lmao
I didn't.
So your'e just going to ignore... Typical Rabbi worshiper.
>Why do you think morals are bullshit? Morals aren't laws,
Yeah they are. Social laws. And I don't think they're bullshit, I think people are bullshit and have no morals when it comes down to it. Or at least that's what Ive seen from others while I was being moral and thinking "fuck...". Put a little pressure on people and you'll see. They're animals. But at least animals dont make excuses and lie about reality like this Christcuck for example.
>everyone has persecuted Christians, they are the most persecuted people in history
YOU SOUND LIKE KIKES!
Oh wait...
PFFFFF That's your reasoning? No Communism for the Ox?
The golden rule was thousands of years older than Seneca. Who do you think Jesus is quoting?
>The golden rule was thousands of years older than Seneca. Who do you think Jesus is quoting?
Seneca. Jesus qoutes the Stoics again. Look it up. Stoics and Christians didn't even have a problem with each other. You're inventing it.
>WE WUZ
Go back to plebbit we are tired of this meme
Morals are is set of behaviours, in which you decide what is good or right. Law is a system of rules that are created and enforced through social or governmental institutions to regulate behavior. These are two completly different things. Morals are not social laws, Moral norms are social laws conditioned by society.
Tbf, if someone prepared and served me a human body (and didn't have to worry about that pesky law thing) .. I'd probably munch on it just as quickly as I would a pig ,cow, deer, etc.... if I'm being completely honest
In turn, if I was dead and eating me would help someone survive.. then all I can say is use cajun seasoning when I'm cooked!
Dude, I'm reading this right now. It doesn't even say MARCUS AURELIUS PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS. You're a liar.
I do agree however that very few people actually have morals. But I don't know what you expect to find on Sup Forums. Too be vegan you must either recognize that plant-based diet is the superior choice for a healthy lifestyle. Or you need to have enough empathy to be able to relate and understand the pain & suffering of animals.
The weak should feed the strong , honestly If cows and chickens don't want to be murdered they should stop being pussys and fight back
You are what we call a sociopath. Evidently, you might be joking. However, if you actually don't care about eating your own species, you have problems.
>Morals are is set of behaviours, in which you decide what is good or right.
No they're decided for you over time as a set standard within your community. That's why African morals are different than European morals.
> Law is a system of rules that are created and enforced
Morals are enforced, though laws. Idiot.
> Morals are not social laws, Moral norms are social laws conditioned by society.
Moral norms is where you get morals from. You didn't invent them they were programmed into you. You didn't reinvent the fucking wheel you god damn plebeian.
Are you Christian? Is this why you can't understand basic reasoning because you have an agenda?
>Or you need to have enough empathy to be able to relate and understand the pain & suffering of animals.
plants feel pain too though. It's been proven look it up.
To vegies, you are eating my foods food. fuck off.
Plants aren't sentient, they are not conscious and they don't have pain receptors, they don't have a nerve system. So you're wrong. The only way you could make this case is if you have different semantics of what "pain" is.
>The weak should feed the strong
Maybe the reason why your white women are feeding the sexual desires of jamal and tyrone.
Fake news
Define the semantics for the following:
Morality
Immorality
Law
Norm
have you ever been a plant? Or talked to one?
Must feel nice to get your cuck fantasies out of the way
> [Pain is] an abstract concept which refers to (l) a personal, private, sensation of hurt; (2) a harmful stimulus which signals current or impending tissue damage; (3) a pattern of responses which operate to protect the organism from harm. These responses can be described in terms which reflect certain concepts, i.e., in neurological, physiological, behavioral, and affective "languages." [3]
Haha, do you actually think you have to be a plant to know if they feel pain or not?
Biogically speaking the way plants feel pain is different from us. But yes they feel pain. But not pain as humans or other sentient beings feel pain.
I would look it right in the eye very time but that would be hard to arrange. I just don't give a shit about lower forms of life like plants and animals.
The quote refers to how the animals are playing their part in life in addition to it being a reflection on man's own mortality, you vegan lunatic. Don't soil the name of Aurelius.