Describe this oni without using the word "coma" or "potato"
Describe this oni without using the word "coma" or "potato"
Cuck
Blue Ram
Rem is getting married!
Shit.
Is this the thinly veiled? If so new chapter is out.
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Comato
>Cuck
Oh if only you knew
best girl after Emilia
Thanks
>Subaru: “Resolve, ability, determination... it's always that I'll be lacking in everything. Why am I just so weak? Huh, Rem?”
Oh great, he's talking to the corpse now.
Nobody cares. Fuck off.
Too good for this shit series.
She isn't dead user
She practically is though, a body without a soul is still technically a dead body.
Thank you
>Gaaf taking Rem hostage to have Subaru follow him every whim
Wew
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Way too lovie dovie for my liking. EMT or bust.
Emilia daisuki
Vegetable
I LOVE EMILIA
I LOVE EMILIA
great minds think alike huh. EMT for life
>Garfiel: “Y'mean, give 'er back? Hey now, there's some pretty heavy attachment y'got. What happened t'th'girl yer love bein' Emilia-sama?”
Even Gaaf is catching on Subaru doesn't really love Emilia huh?
LOL
Log
Vegetable.
Superior twin.
Poor Gaaf is basically on his deathbead now. That or probably pummeled down, the man touched Rem.
...
Having both is good, but Rem is still better
Not even both anymore, Subaru is unable to enter any relationship without thinking of Rem anymore, Rem won.
>moved'd
Is this a thing? I have never seen this.
...
Once Lust came around it was pretty clear who the winner was. Subaru may state he likes both but Emilia definitely has some Witch fuckery surrounding her which makes Subaru like her.
>[Carmilla: I won’t…please…d-don’t hit me….]
>[Subaru: I won’t do that. I won’t do that, but….why did you do that thing from before?]
>[Carmilla: Thing…..from before?]
>[Subaru: I’m talking about the thing where you appeared before me with Rem’s appearance! That’s your ability!?]
>Considering she was a witch that was crowned with the reputation of grave sins, she should be someone who holds a completely special type of authority. If she was the Witch of Lust, she absolutely should be in possession of authority. If that authority was the transformation from before, then—–,
>[Subaru: That transformation power of yours paled in comparison to the other Witches’ powers, huh.]
>[Carmilla: Huh? I didn-I didn’t….transform. I-If I looked..like someone..else….tha-that was just….bec-because of your imag-imagination.]
>[Subaru: What?]
>[Carmilla: What I me-mean is……I-I didn’t even want to s…..see you. They told me that Echidna-chan is carrying it out, so……I used up all my lies, so……]
>Carmilla’s grumbled whispers made Subaru’s irritation within him grow even worse. He hated her way of speaking; he hated the way she projected her gaze; he hated her frailness of looking down after sensing a gaze coming her way. Everything and anything irritated him. Her excessively delicate way of speaking, her seemingly irritated quarreling, what the hell was all that about? On top of not being able to clearly let out the words she wanted to say, she did not understand how she pretty much trampled all over Subaru’s deep care for that person with her own mimicry, while being unaware of just how deep his care for that person actually was.
People should really stop pissing off Subaru, Carmilla nearly got pummeled if it weren't for Echinda.
Why did you faggots have to make this a meme? Now I can't even express my love for Emilia without everyone thinking I'm anti-Rem.
Why would you like the obviously she is going to be Satella girl?
What episode is this?
18
ep 18
>he likes emilia unironically
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does he actually like emilia or is he just being forced to because of magic
cuz this shit makes no sense
Is Subaru a dad now?
>not liking kindhearted sheltered princes
I understand you feel that she is boring but hating on her is just being salty
He has basically three adoptive daughters so I guess, all he needs now if some man bulk.
He likes Emilia for 4 reasons
>Its remnants of when he though he was the "hero of the story"
>Has a fetish for silver-haired heroines, there was also an illustration of his room that further reinforces that
>Most likely witch fuckery
>She is his "escape" so to speak and an excuse to be pathetic
Its much more complex than that and would probably take 2000 or more words to describe the psychology as to why Subaru likes Emilia but here's the gist of it.
You do know that she mentally 13 years old right?
He has always been talking to the "corpse" though.
Quite the priority list this man has
some user posted a translation of chapter 65 in the previous thread made by spfag.
PDF version because I hate pastebin
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yeah, so she still has space to grow and mature
>[Subaru: Hey, Rem. This day was decided by force, but was it a bother?]
>[Rem: A bother?]
>[Subaru: You looked like you were waiting in front of the gate, but I was just kinda thinking that it didn’t look like you were very calm. Never mind, can’t do anything about it now. It’s just a matter of taking care of things earlier.]
>Subaru awkwardly trying to guess Rem’s emotions caused her to look like she was about to burst into laughter. Just like Subaru said, it was too late to worry about it now, so there was no point in breaking the ice with such anxiety. However, she started to feel a slight inclination to be unkind.
>[Rem: That’s right. To speak the truth, I was arranging my thoughts when I was doing various work, and then things I wanted to do came into mind, which meant that I was prevented from doing them because of daily work.]
>[Subaru: I apologize….....for being ignorant.]
>[Rem: I also have various work arranged. I‘ve avoided it today, so that might cause me to be hindered by tomorrow’s arrangements and the arrangements after that day as well. It’s also true that I’ve been bothered because of that.]
>[Subaru: I’m foolish…….Y─your little kindness has been a great…….]
Subaru is pretty whipped by Rem huh?
>spfag
Please don't mention his name around here
I really hope you are joking
lol what did he do?
Not really whipped, its just daily banter between those two. Rem just loves giving Subaru shit when she has the chance.
Its surprising this is her after she fell in love with him
He spoonfed lies, caused waifuwars etc. If you want to know the reason why everybody hates the Re:Zero fanbase it is all because of that guy.
Isnt maturing part of character development?
If she is mentaly 13 at the beginning it is obvious she should mature during adventure, and she is main heroine according to author.
Her development is slow but not over yet, althought it may stay that way and then I will agree its shitty writing and that she turned out to be shitty character.
Problem is she hasn't yet and its already arc 6. Also its not really bad writing. Its more because that's is her character and her character role she is supposed to be the generic "main heroine" that is forever "pure" damsel just as the author intended, which was reinforced with this illustration and Regulus. You need to keep in mind Tappei has planned everything since the beginning.
Geez that poster in the upper right looks like it's basically Emilia with pigtails
Return to Death!
Arere?
...
shit character from a shit show
Butterface
Ded potato.
I failed.
Yeah, it basically panders to Subaru's fetish and Tappei hates otaku fetish pandering so.
Inferior Maid
NOT up to Sukia Ibuki standards in what we expect in an Oni
I’m not sure if y’all just have bad memories or something. But here’s the simple version.
Rem
>murdered and tortured Subaru because of mere suspicions. Little regard for human life, and will kill on a whim. Has not changed in any way from this behavior. Hyundai just learned to work around it to make her trust him, rather than her undergoing moral repentance. She’s been appeased, rather than changed.
>no identity outside her devotion to Toyota and Ram. Their relationships with Rem define her.
>no greater aim in life than her service to the above two.
>supportive of Suzuki’s hero fantasy, when he needs to be brought back to reality
Emilia
>never attacked or killed Honda, has only healed him. Sometimes to the point of her own exhaustion
>has an identity outside her relationships with Audi and Puck.
>wants to gain political power to bring about civil rights. I guess the study of magic counts as a life goal, too.
>shoots down Acura’s prideful lies about doing it for her. Sees that he only appeasing his sense of heroism, rather than a desire to actually help.
Sure, Rem is cute, loyal, and deadly. But she’s not a full person. She’s a puppy, hopelessly loyal and unquestioningly devoted. Fun as a character, but not good as a wife.
Emilia is a fully realized person. She exists independently of others, and doesn’t capitulate to Mazda’s illusions of his own importance.
Did I miss anything?
So basically "I am an anime-only" yeah?
>murdered and tortured Subaru because of mere suspicions
So has many people who have killed archbishops and the witch cult, while her actions were wrong her judgement was right. What is she suppsoed to think when a mysterious man enters her mansin smelling like an archbishop.
It also doesn't help that Subaru also literally became an archbishop later on in the story.
>no identity outside her devotion to Toyota and Ram. Their relationships with Rem define her.
Her duties and aspirations to become Crusch-like as well as many other things, she takes pride in being head maid and has used it to her advantage more than once.
>no greater aim in life than her service to the above two
Then she wouldn't have regarded to claim to become more confident, independent and look up to Crusch
>supportive of Suzuki’s hero fantasy, when he needs to be brought back to reality
You are fucking retarded if you think was what "From Zero" was. Subaru himself stated it has her alone is what is tying him to accept and face reality.
>never attacked or killed Honda, has only healed him. Sometimes to the point of her own exhaustion
Oh you poor user.
>has an identity outside her relationships with Audi and Puck.
Actually no true, she is the very definition of a sheltered child.
>wants to gain political power to bring about civil rights. I guess the study of magic counts as a life goal, too.
Her motives are actually more selfish. She wants to become king to fufill her contract with Roswaal to unfreeze her village. Basically she made a deal with the devil.
>shoots down Acura’s prideful lies about doing it for her. Sees that he only appeasing his sense of heroism
Its actually quite the opposite, its her basically going "you don't really love me!" on Subaru, Emilia couldn't even bring herself to insult Subaru like Rem does all the time.
discount rei
Ram is better
>toyota giving rem a horn blowjob
Leavig aside the other stuff for now, you and Subaru have no idea how much deep shit he was in that loop.
Let's look at the facts
>the witch stench is enough to trick most cultists into thinking you're one of them
Okay that sounds bad but that's doesn't...
>witch cultists are kill on sight by law
Alright I don't see where...
>uses knowledge of the mansion layout to steal a specific knife even though he's a guest
Subaru what the fuck, wait
>starts spying on them
Oh shit, you've done it now but maybe if you explain yourself...
>barely tries because he doesn't understand the gravity of the situation, in the books she even asks if he's a cultist
There was one solution here. That may or may've not worked and that was to use Puck or maybe Beatrice since they're telepaths who can read intentions and can detect the scent. But they're mostly amoral products of witches themselves. Which is why they can smell him. Ask her to bring him to the cat ffs.
>was finished off by Ram
Meaning pretty much no one trusted him. Now Rem wasn't exactly in the right but Subaru dug himself deep like a tard and didn't reflect much on the entire situation as a whole. This won't be the last time he is under suspicion either. Keep in mind he was also a literally who claiming to buy back the amulet from their perspective without meeting Emilia first which sounds fishy as fuck. He had spy written all over him.
Oh and Rem shit talks him all the time in the books and brings him to reality just fine. She's like her sister but uses fake politeness to talk shit. Luckily for him it's usually constructive or not unprovoked.
>supportive of Suzuki’s hero fantasy, when he needs to be brought back to reality
Nah. She calls Subaru weak, lazy, pathetic, and incompetent quite regularly. She rarely ever denies any kind of insult aimed at Subaru. She doesn't support his fantasy about being this super cool hero who can overcome any situation singlehandedly or take on a trained knight one on one.
She supports the reality that he's able to make a difference, despite all of his shortcomings, and pressures him to be the best he can. That's why Subaru thinks she's harder on him than anyone else. She expects more from him than anyone else, and won't accept anything less.
I also want to add to this user's statement that this goes both way's as Subaru is basically the same to Rem in this regard.
And this is why the way the anime was handled was a mistake. It's like it fooled some people into thinking on reverse of how things actually are.
Waifubait.
Who?
>kindhearted sheltered princes
One of the most dull and generics character archetypes seen.
someone's gonna die and that someone will be most likely strangled to death.
>Petra and Frederica's burials ended with unanticipated simplicity.
>He arranged their appearances for their interment, wiping their bloodied skin and faces clean with a cloth. He changed them into new sets of clothes with shame. And of course, no indecent feelings welled up.
>When he took their cold, stiff bodies to pass their arms through the sleeves of their clothes, he wanted to cry. But his eyes would only grow drier, his heart imprisoned by an incomprehensible emotion.
>Subaru: “...At least, have peace.”
>Above their graves he prays for their repose.
You've come a long way Subaru
Subaru will never stop being a bitch they said
Not at all, she's more like that wife who lowkey bullies her husband.
Some people are just shit at paying attention either way. The entirety of episode 18 goes on to show yes Rem's love has conditions, and no she won't just do whatever he wants (even 99% of the nice shit she did was her own volition without being requested). And she's doing the exact opposite of letting him escape reality by making him go head to head with it agai instead of running away like a little bitch. Quite a few viewers simply forgot there was much more than a love confession going on from both sides and apparently just stopped reading the subtitles telling you all this shit until the very end of the episode so they could meme.
Reading though Arc 6, and it seems like Emilia does most of the fighting now. Not sure if that actually makes her better, since I already like Julius more.
Onihole.
Does she? Well at least she has that going for her I guess. Hopefully she becomes more useful later on.
Who?
blue haired midget rat
She's definitely useful. If that was the only reason to dislike her, then that's certainly been handled. Unfortunately, I haven't seen many good character interactions from her yet. She lets Subaru do most of the talking when it comes to dealing with people, and their own interactions are the usual meme-flirting and slight confusion.
>She lets Subaru do most of the talking when it comes to dealing with people, and their own interactions are the usual meme-flirting and slight confusion.
God dammit I was just starting to like her too
>Why had the girl going I WANT TO DIE PLEASE KILL ME I WANT TO DIE PLEASE KILL ME ultimately shoved Subaru out of the way? Her promptly noticing Elsa's survival and pushing Subaru out of danger meant what, exactly? Subaru didn't want to be enough of an imbecile to not understand it.
>The congealed blood on his sweaty brow moistens, painting his face in red, his state atrocious. Should the villagers witness Subaru now, the proper reaction would be to greet him with a horrified shriek.
>When he took their cold, stiff bodies to pass their arms through the sleeves of their clothes, he wanted to cry. But his eyes would only grow drier, his heart imprisoned by an incomprehensible emotion.
All the MGSV jokes of the one-eyed Subaru loop seem too meek now. This is beyond nuclear
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Well, I'm not sure if I'm reading things right. However, it seems like Subaru actually keeps a lot of secrets from her about what's going on. I'm not sure she even knows Anastasia is possessed by the Echidna spirit. I believe it was also said that he has private talks with Roswaal, to which she's not invited.
Yes. But I’m going to read that “80,000 word summary” thing I’ve seen people throwing around. This is why I asked if I was correct at the end. I’ve only watched the anime so far.
Three things:
Rem killed Subaru for just leaving his room before the whole incident you described. She ripped off his arm in the dark before finishing him off. That’s the reason he knew to listen for “the sound of chains”. This incident alone cements Rem as an immoral person. Did I miss something here?
You make a good case for Rem’s suspicions. Well done. Yes, Subaru handled the whole third attempt very poorly. He does that. It’s his thing. Regardless, innocent until proven guilty is the key thing here. Rem had reasonable suspicion that Subaru was up to something (which he was). But “he is very, very suspicious” does not lead to “I will torture him for information” except in the minds of evil people.
Put it in real-life context. If some vigilante in America captured and tortured his Arab neighbor because he was acting suspicious, whistling the ISIS theme, and buying a lot of 7.62x39mm ammo, would you defend him? The Arab might just find it catchy, and has an AK-47 like plenty of law-abiding Americans. Is the vigilante justified?
I got the impression Ram just arrived to find out what Rem had done, and mercy-killed Subaru. Not because she didn’t trust him, but because she pitied him. Am I wrong?
At this point it isn't the Emilia faction anymore, that's basically the Subaru faction now. He's basically running the faction by himself at this point.
This is all true. Yet this is also the problem. I didn’t mean to imply Rem helps Subaru believe he’s Kirito or something.
I mean she encourages his delusion that he’s justified in what he does. That this world revolves around him, and the rules don’t apply to him. He thinks he’s an RPG hero, and anything that helps him complete his own objective is fair-game.
The most obvious example is when she looks the other way to let him sneak into the Royal Selection ceremony. She knew that he promised not to go. But rather than making him keep his promise, which would have meant saying “no”, she uncritically trusts his judgment.
I will admit Rem is somewhat correct about this, though. Since the whole Return by Death thing actually does give Subaru insight into further events.
Mind explaining what you mean? I haven’t heard too many anons say the anime was a bad adaptation. Most criticism is for the source material itself. I’m going to track down English translations at some point and become more informed.
>I got the impression Ram just arrived to find out what Rem had done, and mercy-killed Subaru.
Ram is the one who uses wind magic, and Subaru even realizes the feeling of her attacks is exactly the same as when his leg got cut off.
>The most obvious example is when she looks the other way to let him sneak into the Royal Selection ceremony. She knew that he promised not to go. But rather than making him keep his promise, which would have meant saying “no”, she uncritically trusts his judgment.
Actually she was forced to let SUbaru go to the royal selection by Roswaal's orders. If it weren't for her orders she would have manhandled Subaru like always. It was more shocking when she actually did allow him in the WN, because that was so unlike her.