Net Neutrality

Good - Why?
Terrible - Why?
Explain Fagets

Fuck Obama

who is more likely to fuck you over? competitive companies that want your money and who must deal with you on a contractual/mutualistic basis, or the US government, who will, eventually, put a gun to your head for violating a litter law?

We had the internet for 25 years before NN was even a thing, and it was far more free and open back then than it is now. The people panicking are useful idiots shilling for the first step towards maoist governmental control of the internet.

It's necessary because if it were not there, ISPs could censor literally any content they dislike because why not. Imagine if your electricity company was allowed to say "I consider using a microwave as premium electricity, therefore every watt if power going into your microwave costs you $3 more than electricity for anything else." Do you see how retarded that sounds? Net neutrality is what stops ISPs from doing that to the internet. I mean, have those if you against it actually read the law? All it boils down to is that ISPs have to treat every website and use of data the same.

Explain why literally none of that happened for the 25 years we had internet before 2015 when obama put it into law.

Companies don't do it because it is fucking retarded and they'd lose their entire customer base in the blink of a fucking eye.

Inb4 "but liberals like net neutrality so I have to hate it"
Inb4 "Jewish shill"

Because for most of the time that law wasn't around, the internet consisted mainly of things like MySpace. People didn't spread opinions on it up until recently. Not to mention that most of the technology you would need to regulate it that way is also of recent invention. That's why.

PRO NN: James Alefantis, Shillary Clinton, SOYBOYS

ANTI NN: Kizuna Ai, Adolf Hitler, the dankest meems

Yea. AOL pedo rings were such a good thing! Corporations really did a good job!
Totally didn't protect pedos because they were making mad dosh of the tragic and sharing of child porn

Called it

google is allowed to block things
youtube is allowed to block things
twitter is allowed to block things
netflix is allowed to block things
facebook is allowed to block things.
but NOT ISPs.

how is the fair in anyway?
****** if you don't like what your ISP is blocking, or throttling. SWITCH ISPs *******
but you say the ISPs have monopolies? you can BLAME THE GOVERNMENT for that. why are the ISPs to blame for government failure?
why doesn't the government run its own lines, if they want it to be a public utility.
this will
>create jobs
>better America
>let ISPs do what they want, like every other private company.
>create competition
the problem here is NOT the ISPs it's the government.

Because Google blocking things doesnt kill other websites, it only affects them.
Large corporations have a history recently of listening to the sjws. Sooner or later they will cry "ban Sup Forums" and at that point, there's a good chance every ISP will collectively say sure, and rip Sup Forumsand

>****** if you don't like what your ISP is blocking, or throttling. SWITCH ISPs *******
>but you say the ISPs have monopolies? you can BLAME THE GOVERNMENT for that. why are the ISPs to blame for government failure?

Competition will rise again. Have no fear.

Not blaming ISPs. I'm just saying NN is the easiest way to stop them from abusing their power.

Also stifles innovation and growth.

Pretty much the gov't now choose your porn for you and can watch it with you

>depends if you like it or if you actually wouldn't mind it

>Not blaming ISPs
but that is what NN is doing
>abusing their power.
That the government gave to them

We can hope so at least. But I would rather not have to buy "the Netflix package" for the ability to use another company's service because my ISP says I have to

OP here, got into a heated battle against some shrill on facebook, (and my gawd the guy just doesn't understand economics). Makes me want to hit the guy,

Does it matter where they got the power? The issue at hand is that NN stops them from abusing it, which us a good thing in my book.

We can force competitors to offer deals based on our needs. Those with the est deals will out bid those with shitty ones. It will work.

Not particularly. All it does is force ISPs to treat every website and download the same. A company having to have a decent rate on the websites you like isn't innovation, it's cable tv

For all the NN shilling, I hope the ISPs all kill off Google and Facebook for being such cunts about this. They silence free speech, and then have the nerve to bitch and moan at the people they banned to help them out.

Fuck em.

THIS

I get that we can try to fix the problems killing NN would cause, but why kill NN at all though?

google is allowed to block things
youtube is allowed to block things
twitter is allowed to block things
netflix is allowed to block things
facebook is allowed to block things.
but NOT ISPs
how is the fair in anyway.
****** if you don't like what your ISP is blocking, or throttling. SWITCH ISPs *******
but you say the ISPs have monopolies? you can BLAME THE GOVERNMENT for that. why are the ISPs to blame for government failure?
why doesn't the government run its own lines, if they want it to be a public utility .
this will
>create jobs
>better America
>let ISPs do what they want, like every other private company.
>create competition
the problem here is NOT the ISPs it's the government.

PAY ATTENTION TO THIS YOU FUCKS


Just wanting to give everyone a heads up, there's a new insidious tactic by which shills say that because of the first amendment and the "good Samaritan act" ISPs can't be held liable if they block access to content they find "offensive". ALL of that was COMPLETELY overruled when the FCC classified ISPs as common carriers. Just another information for people to know

They are bogged down by having to abide by gov. regs and standards. That stops them from creating news ideas that can benefit the consumer because they are on a short leash.

You've posted this before, in this thread. We saw you the first time.

neat

By that same logic your electricity company is bogged down and on a short leans because it can't charge you extra when you use the microwave, instead of giving you a per watt bill

Sup Forums is going to get hit too you fucking idiot.

Soros is merely covering a weak spot, if the ISPs gain control over what they can allow their users to see they'll have control to extort as much money from him as possible.

Soros would be able to pay that, WE, Sup Forums won't.

No Net Neutrality is good unless you live in an area with literally one ISP, if not the competition between them is gonna keep them in check.

This guys got it. If NN goes, then RIP Sup Forums, RIP the daily stormer, RIP conservative politics on the internet

Well, are you saying the internet is just as necessary as electricity?

No, but they are both utilities. Given that I'm a web designer the internet actually is to me though, because i need it to do my job

DIdnt we have Sup Forums before NN?

>Ajit Pai
>A J I T P A I
>A P A J I I T
>a Pajiit
hmmmmm

...

Good - amerifat are banned from most of the internet
Bad ????

Utilities are things required to allow you to survive. Your exact job can be labeled as a luxury service, not really necessary to conduct business. Example: look at the mom and pop shops running hardware stores they more than likely have no web page. Luxury, just like cable television

They never have a very good answer for this
They will argue nothing will change but everything that might will be sorted out
The benefits? Something something government

Utilities are not just defined by how needed something is to survive

Like I said earlier, the technology required to regulate this is of recent make. Besides, what do we gain from killing NN? Other than pleasing a Pajit

You're confusing utilities for basic needs. Utilities is any sort of resource, that's the internet. You don't need electricity to survive either

There was never a "before NN", FCC used to force ISPs to stop doing their kikery all the time because while not explicitly stated, they considered Internet Providers as covered under the Title 1 of the same act.

Based

You just proved his point retard. The internet was more free back then.

Even IF that happens, I don't give a fuck. Mutual assured destruction. Casuals, niggers, women, and the kikes that follow them have RUINED the internet.

In one form or another, affluent tech-savvy whites will migrate to a new frontier, and leave all the niggers behind. Like tech WAS before the kikes ruined the entire industry with trannies and HBN1 niggers.

TDS is already gone, with NN

>Soros donated $300 million to pro NN groups

Might want to donate a lot more than that George if you really want to save NN. Donate $1 billion or more.

Which would you rather then? The world as it is now, or USA and Russia finally nuking each other and us all dying because of it?

Can I join Shareblue? Please give me your recruiter's email

To all you yelling shills, Soros likes breathing oxygen, so you feel like holding your breath?

>Which would you rather then?
Juuuust enough US cities getting nuked so the USA becomes a white country again.

Thats just suicide though. Check your genetics, £20 says you aren't as white as you think

I love George Soros. You made a fantastic point that because he breathes, everyone should support him!

No, I just made the point that someone you dislike doing something doesn't automatically make that something a bad thing.

American cities are a pox upon the Earth. The West is already committing suicide by nigger.

You're disgustingly retarded, his point is that people saying NN is bad because soros supports it are just using the same identity politics that the left uses to say that ALL whites are racist simply for being white.

Just because a stupidly evil person likes something it doesn't mean the thing itself is evil.

But it's okay! He's never done anything wrong.

The reason I am more ok with Google and twatter being shills is because they can only block things on their own platform, if we allow ISPs to do that, their platform is literally the entire internet

Terrible

The Free Market

2005 - Madison River Communications was blocking VOIP services. The FCC put a stop to it.

2005 - Comcast was denying access to p2p services without notifying customers.

2007-2009 - AT&T was having Skype and other VOIPs blocked because they didn't like there was competition for their cellphones. 2011 - MetroPCS tried to block all streaming except youtube. (edit: they actually sued the FCC over this)

2011-2013, AT&T, Sprint, and Verizon were blocking access to Google Wallet because it competed with their bullshit. edit: this one happened literally months after the trio were busted collaborating with Google to block apps from the android marketplace

2012, Verizon was demanding google block tethering apps on android because it let owners avoid their $20 tethering fee. This was despite guaranteeing they wouldn't do that as part of a winning bid on an airwaves auction. (edit: they were fined $1.25million over this)

2012, AT&T - tried to block access to FaceTime unless customers paid more money.

2013, Verizon literally stated that the only thing stopping them from favoring some content providers over other providers were the net neutrality rules in place.

Can I have one of your employers' emails now? I emailed David Brock a while back but he didn't reply. I'd like to apply, or at least know what the qualifications are.

Net Neutrality is bad. It's trying to "fix" something that isn't broken, by giving the government more power. Google supports it, the MSM supports it, just think about it for one goddamn minute - and stop believing half brained YouTubers about how it will usher in a 2nd internet Utopia.

The problem is that for a huge portion of the US, there is no competition for ISP's. They have localized monopolies and most people only have one choice for landline internet.

NN is government overreach. Government overreach is never a good thing.

Again with the argument of "People I don't like support this. I therefore have to hate it"
Besides, it clearly was broken given the stuff mentioned here.

Ahh, ISPs are a monopoly, bohoo. Oh wait, Net Neutrality DIDN'T CHANGE THAT. Fucking idiot.

>only have one choice for landline internet
Oh no, and that's the ONLY way to get ANY internet service. The ONLY way.

I also love it when fuckhead shills from cities or universities pretend to give a fuck about rural and suburban retards. It's like seeing DNC primaries in Iowa, like they give a fuck about anyone there.

You're wrong! Net neutrality will fix everything. George Soros told me so.

Can you please help me get employed at Shareblue? I hate my job.

Google and the MSM support a one government globalist agenda, and will pour BILLIONS into ANYTHING that will further that cause (true, not a conspiracy theory). So why are they pouring all of this money into saving NN? Instead of dismissing the argument, try thinking about it, but I know thinking is hard. So I won't ask too much of you.

Do you believe Wikipeida should have to pay as much money to send you a few pages of text as Netflix should to send you hours of high definition video?

No? Then congratulations you're against neutrality.

The kike openly and repeatedly supports and finances policies against my own interests. It's only right to assume this situation, is no different from the past 30 with this fucking kike.

You suck at debate too.

Roads are government overreach because the government is forcing private companies not to charge people differently based on the colour of their car for going driving

NN doesn't get rid of monopolies, but it does stop the monopolies from fucking over customers

I agree that it's a sort of band-aid, but it's not like there's any indication of legislators moving to fix the monopoly problems.

mobile data is expensive and slow

>lose their entire consumer base

Are you actually in America? There are literally only 2-3 options. And normally only one is available in any given area.

That's not how net neutrality works. Wiki already pays less because you pay per gigbyte and videos take up more space. Removing NN might actually cause wiki to get the same bill as Netflix at the end of the month

Ad hominem isn't an argument, try again.

It's an alternative. ISPs are not monopolies.
Expensive data just means less shekels for Netflix, Youtube, Faceberg, Pornhub, trannies on Twitch and the like. Less or no video if it's too much shekels. Too bad so sad.

>Good - Why?
internet will slowly die off and become too expensive so people will start actually living their lives as God intended instead of being hunchbacked degenerates which waste their youth by staring into a colourful screen
>Terrible - Why?
no more anime and fapping to blacked.com

Is it you again? Please give me your employer's email! What does it take to get into Shareblue..

This guy's got it

Accusations and poisoning the well is not substitute for an actual argument.

Just going to leave this here for those of you crying shill.

I know, I just want to know how to get into Shareblue. I promise I'll leave you alone if you help me out.

Start with a degree in marketing or similar.
Not that I would know. I'm just a web designer.

Are you sure? I've been dying to meet David Brock he is such a nice guy