Why does Sup Forums not support the right of Muslim women to dress the way they want to...

Why does Sup Forums not support the right of Muslim women to dress the way they want to? Also shouldn't a conservative lifestyle be encouraged ? I thought Sup Forums was all about the /trad/ life ...

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I dont mind their clothes, i blame their very existence.
Kys

>My semitic desert mythology is better than your semitic desert mythology
Neck yourself faggot

I don't give a fuck, go be a sandnigger in your own country.
Also burkas are a massive security risk, just like if you were wearing a balaclava all day every day

being or calling yourself a muslim at will should already be a punishable by either a beating or death. i will gladly let a women dress the way they want provided they don't subscribe to a religion that forces them to wear a headscarf

Please listen:

youtube.com/watch?v=xH9PVkdwjrg

it's not their free will to wear these clothes, the children are brainwashed till they believe it....

if someone tells his son from start on it's only truely ok to wear a skirt, and everyone wearing pants is asocial... some time he will believe it - and thinks it's his free will...

This, at least, is consistent. "This is our land and we don't want foreigners and foreign cultures here" is a message that is on point and understandable. My issue is with the libertarians and centrists who claim to support personal freedom but then shit on Muslim women all day for choosing to dress traditionally. It is double standards, maybe they too are secretly all about the 1488 but don't reveal their power level because fear of social and financial repurcussions...

I support 9yo brides and polygamy

The gas chambers are a myth, just like the myth that Nazis made soap out of human fat (from Jewish concentration camp prisoners). The soap accusation was later debunked by historians but was repeated by some Jews well into the 1990s. Even today you might find some people repeating it as fact, such is the power of stories that are believed on faith rather than evidence. Other accusations never caught on to the same extent because they were simply too unbelievable.

"Holocaust survivors" admit that they heard rumors about the gas chambers from other Jews before even arriving at a concentration camp. Thus if a Jew lost a loved one during the war, they simply assumed they had gone to the gas chambers. Even after the Allies investigated a camp and determined it was *not* a death camp, Jews still repeated the story because they felt they were doing a good thing for the "victims". Insodoing the myth is reinforced without a shred of truth or evidence.

Gas chambers did exist, but were a life-saving measure to exterminate Typhus-spreading lice in clothing. That's why eyewitnesses often include details like haircuts & showers (life-saving pest deterrant measures). Despite these efforts, typhus (aka "camp fever", "ship fever", etc.) resulted in 200,000 deaths by the end of the war going by Red Cross reports. That's why the camps needed crematories. But those deaths weren't planned, in fact the Germans tried to prevent them, and total nowhere near 6,000,000.

You can hear directly from Jews, and learn more about the improbability of the story, why the numbers claimed to have been killed in gas chambers at Auschwitz is scientifically & technically impossible, in the following video. Watch it & make up your own mind.

>Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth:
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Muslims should be forced to wear a Burka (yes even the men) and pray in the streets. I want to know who is Muslim and who is not so i can stay away from them and send my business elsewhere.

You can dive into philosophy and claim that it is not a person's free will to not be an asshole but that they are brainwashed as children to believe that they have to be nice to others and helpful. Doesn't change the fact that that is what they believe NOW and that is what matters.

Also aren't people brainwashed from childhood to wear clothes and dress modestly as well ? It is just your social upbringing, or else everybody would be a nudist. Many people from the conservative Christian side are talking about changing the culture back to where women dressing like sluts and emulating Miley Cyrus is discouraged. How is that any different from Muslim cultural norms ?

> i will gladly let a women dress the way they want provided they don't subscribe to a religion that forces them to wear a headscarf

So you are just motivated by an intense hatred of religion? What about women nowadays who are being brainwashed by Hollywood to dress like whores. The new religion of the West seems to be consumerism and the rejeciton of everything that is modest and traditional.

I hate Muslim and I want their Jimmies to be rustled

It is, though. If you don't think there are good cultures and worthless cultures you're on the wrong board. Sandniggers are inherently inferior.

They are forced to wear that shit and indoctrinated to believe they want it because if they don't it's a beating or worse.

But you knew that.

OMG she's taking off her first layer of clothes, that sexy whore.

Post more OP

They could look modest without trying to look ugly. That still isn't the main problem though.

True. Now Sudoku plz, Kenichi kun

Every single Muslim woman is being enforced to wear it ? Even in the West ? And "indoctrination" means nothing even though you use it like a scary word. Every single person is "indoctrinated" not to lie, steal, cheat and kill and also to wear clothes when in public. Those are societal norms. And even then Muslim women, especially in the West, have a choice, it's not like in Saudi where you are jailed or whatever for not following the repressive law. But yet Muslim women CHOOSE to wear it.

But you know that. So why are you against personal freedom ?

They can go be brown somewhere else. Quite frankly I don't care about what they do in the sand pit.

any uniform someone (as part of group) wears to show he/she doesn't appreciate or at least accept the local standards...

Sup Forums only likes modesty women and freedom when it's THEIR type of modest women and freedom.

Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy isn't just for leftists.

>OMG she's taking off her first layer of clothes, that sexy whore

DESU after 2 months on No fap it kind of Is lmao

I don't want to see Muslim women doing anything in my country. Although it they must be here, I prefer they be covered up, because what you CAN see is always unsightly, so I don't imagine I'd like looking at the rest.

because it's no personal freedom

muslim women should dress however they want (within the guidelines of whatever is acceptable in their culture)

but, more importantly, they should do it in their own countries

That's not an inconsistent position. They want to celebrate and perpetuate their own culture, while keeping others out.

After you come with me for a helicopter ride, red-san.

This

Islam has no place in the West, newfag.

I don't care how the fucking dress so long as they're not in my country.

While they are unfortunately in my country I am against them wearing a hijab or niqab or whatever the fuck they call them because it is a culturally imperialist expression of an entirely alien people, culture and religion that has no place in my white western nation.

exactly

They can do whatever they want in their country tries of origin,while in europe they should only dress like deportees and only think about deportation.
Once you're outside of europe you can kill all the kikes you want and i won't care.
I have had a muslims girlfriend in the past and i have lived amongst muslims i don't care about them being muslims i cared mostly about them being subhumans.

Keked and checked

Sauce!

gatestoneinstitute.org/10441/germany-muslim-honor-killings

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing

"personal freedom"

"choice"

How about every school and every commercial in Germany tells you that white people are bad, but you are still a nazi like every other german ever?

Because I don't want to fuck an E.T looking thot

You think everybody dresses the same in society ? LUL you need to go out more my dude. Always funny to see the "muh individualism" crowd advoating for a collective identity and conformity

Muslim women in the West get paid by SA for wearing hijab. Hundreds of Euros get paid out in the local mosque for each month of “modesty“. So much for choice.

Because if their men did not beat or possible kill them for not covering up, I guarantee you they wouldnt want to wear garbage bags in the first place.

that's their choice, they aren't forced, they don't get punished or killed if they want to change ;)

Nice souce there, did you read it ?

First case of honor killing is

>In Berlin, a 32-year-old Bosnian, Edin A., murdered his former girlfriend, a 35-year-old German woman named Michelle E., after she ended their abusive relationship. He also abducted and tortured her 12-year-old son, who was forced to watch his mother's murder. Neighbors said they had repeatedly alerted the police about Edin A.'s violent behavior, but the police did nothing.

So a man murders his girlfriend because of jealousy and this is somehow "Honor killing" because it sounds foreign and dangerous to this Israel funded Gatestone Institute propoganda website. Because domestic violence apparently is a problem with Muslims and non-Muslims have never killed their girlfriend or wife. No sir. Except the over 10000 women murdered by their husbands and boyfriends in the United states between 2003 and 2014.

ask a Muslim what would happen if they told their family they were no longer a Muslim.
>No sir. Except the over 10000 women murdered by their husbands and boyfriends in the United states between 2003 and 2014.
the difference is doing for "cultural" reasons rather than rage or jealousy you cherry picking mudshark.

So it's a choice if a woman is choosing to wear revealing clothes and have her ass hanging out but not a choice if a woman is choosing to wear modest clothes. Nice logic there

Ha! You choose to wear it because the other options are to either be ostracized by your own religion or beaten by your husband

if she can choose - yes then it's a choice.

i too prefer modest clothing, yet i don't judge anybody who wears more revealing stuff - as long as it's their free choice

>ask a Muslim what would happen if they told their family they were no longer a Muslim.
It depends on the type of family, if the family is conservative they would be alienated and ostracized, if they are liberal it would probably not be a huge issue. The problem is that Muslims are being held to a differnt standard than everybody. What if a conservative, God fearing, military vet American family an edgy teenager proclaims his atheism at a thanksgiving dinner and how he shits on America and its ideals and wants to join ANTIFA and burn the American flag ? What would happen to this person ? Would his conservative, republican family accept him because "difference of opinion" or would they chuck him out of the house ?

>Cultural reason
"Cultural reason" is a fucking meme. Murderers are murderers. Everytime a Muslim murders his wife or girlfriend it is filed under "honor killing" by these disingenious tabloidesque websites. And this verbal and intellectual diarrhea is being consumed by Americans everyday.

As with all socialists you are attempting to sell slavery as liberty

>german flag
you guys too cucked at this point

Source

>Would his conservative, republican family accept him because "difference of opinion" or would they chuck him out of the house ?
chucking someone out of the house and chucking stones at them until they die are two different things and you know it, Achmed.

You're just denying how fucking fundamentalist and violent Muslims are.

In western society muslims act alright. But over in the middle East, women are second class citizens. If your choice's are wear this or be beaten or killed well then that's not much of choice. Majority of people would choose wearing that shit over death or torture. The women know It's not a bluff because they have been fucked with in the past and still today for not covering up. In some areas women have to be covered up totally. It's not a fashion statement in most of Muslim society. So the womens choice of what to wear is limited to when she is private while in the presence of her husband. This occurs the majority of Muslim society. These rules are inforced with possibility of death if they are broken. So there is no choice for most Muslim women

This!

All non-whites are more modest than whites are right now, and it's destroying whites.

>women are second class citizens
Look at this idiot who somehow believes in "equality," even after finding Sup Forums.

This is why I get pissed off when people throw around the "racism" charge when you call out Muslims for what they are. Islam is not a "race" it's an ideology. It's beliefs. They make choices to become a Muslim and there is no "intrepretation" on what Islam is.
Little controversy that there is, ends in violence like Shia against Sunni. There aren't "degrees" of Islam until you're counting your typical ultra conservative Mosque (aka "moderate Muslims") in the west versus full blown "ISIS".

>chucking stones at them until they die
>Muh anecdotal evidence

So Muslims are stoning their children in the West ? Where does that happen. Sounds like you have taken the Fox News koolaid my friend. Even in Muslim majority nations, go to any Muslim majority nation and you will see women everywhere not wearing a headcarf. If you are a poor faggot and can't afford to get out of your state then use YouTube for fucks sake. Not every country is Iran or Saudi you moron.

They typically stab or shoot them in America.

A race is not only genetics, user. You're thinking about genotype.

I don't want muds to integrate. I want them to leave.

I'm talking equal opportunity dummy. I'm well aware I could beat even a muscular women to death while I was suffering from the flu. Where women fail should be there fucking fault

>women are only different physically

I respect people who want non-europeans removed from Europe infinitely more than cowards who hide behind this anti Muslim bullshit because they are too afraid of being called racist. Such people proclaim to be liberal and centrist but don't want those personal freedoms for Muslims. They claim to be defender of "Western values" but don't want religious freedom (a fundamental value of the modern West) for Muslims. They talk about how identity politics is destroying everything but then judge Muslims as a group. They want individualism but then want Muslim women to conform to society. So many inconsistencies ! At least fascists are clear and consistent and have a simple "us vs them" philosophy.

Fuck of Hadji, I hope Iran nukes you.

It's sickening to think that, as low as the third-world Mozzies are, that they're still philosophically a lot less egalitarian than the lunatics holding the borders open right now.

And emotionally. Way to take shit out of context and make idiotic assumptions. Thats typical libtard behavior right there

Which Middle Eastern country? Do me a favor and go to YouTube and google something like "Tunis city" or "Beitut city tour" or "Fes, Morroco city tour", or really any country apart from Saudi Arabia. Count how many women are wearing the headscarf. Even in Iran women are part of the work force nowadays, The way you people talk is like a woman would immediately be fucked and killed she dares show a strand of hair on the street which is far from the truth.

But then again, you fucking morons keep moving the conversation to "Middle East" when talk of Muslims arises even though only 25% of worldwide Muslims live in the MENA. So ignorance about these matters is to be expected from Americans.

Prevents mussleman from being incarcerated for rape as often which means musslemen are afflicted on my women. Duh.

Because we don't support death cults that brainwash women. 1st and 2nd wave feminism was good. current/third is pure cancer.

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Any migrant who accepts and appreciates the culture and law, and also increases the prosperity of his new country is welcome from wherever he origins.
If he/she/it just wants to leech welfare and/or threatens our law or just lives in a parallel society/culture, then he/she/it is not welcome.

Traditional does not mean backward disgusting poo culture

Brainwashed with television much? You must be trolling. Idk maybe Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, pakistan, Nigeria just to name a few. Any area where there is strict sharia law is where women are treated like dog shit. The majority of the muslim is in the asia pacific area. But it's not like Muslim women are treated any better in that part of the world either

>Why does Sup Forums not support the right of Muslim women to dress the way they want to?
Because Muslim women have no right to exist within Europe.
If they were in Islamic countries the Islamic countries had to decide.
It is not that I agree that these women must wear veils, but the Issue of their existence in Europe is far greater.

>Also shouldn't a conservative lifestyle be encouraged ?
Conservatism is the greatest ideological failure of these past decades.
At this point in time being wanting to live a "conservative life" is plain retarded and not going to happen.

>I thought Sup Forums was all about the /trad/ life
Yes. But traditionalism and conservatism are mutually exclusive lifestyles.

Because I hate them desu. Anything they want no matter what I will be against. It comes from loathing. Same with the leftists. Anything st all that they want I will be vehemently against. Its my occums razor. If it comes from a Muslim or leftist, it's probably bad for me and my family in the long run. And if it's not, their disappointment and pain will bring me joy.

I'm not defending or justifying theocracy. Even in most Muslim nations there is Sharia only in personal matters and not as a matter of criminal law (for instance in Tunisia, Jordan etc). The women's rights siutation in these countries is worse than the West because they are still a part of the third world, the situation is not much different in Hindu India or much of Christian sub saharan Africa.

>But it's not like Muslim women are treated any better in that part of the world either
Certianly better than in Saudi, Indonesia elected a Muslim woman president 15 years ago and in Saudi they weren't even allowed to drive until a few months ago.

>So you are just motivated by an intense hatred of religion? What about women nowadays who are being brainwashed by Hollywood to dress like whores.

Is Occupied Israel actually going to pretend that Sup Forums doesn't also have a problem with what Hollyjew kikes have done?

Fuck off back to your oven, Hanzberg.

True. Even many muslim countries ban face veils in government buildings, campuses, etc. Coincidentally, those tend to be the countries we (((destabilize))).

So lif eftists and Muslims oppose military adventures of the U.S. in the Middle East that would mean you are pro war? Even though your tax dollars will be spent by the trillions for some uselss nation building and killing people in the desert based on lies? If you think like this you are a retard.

Sweet they're like 10 percent of the way up to where we have been for over 100 years. WOW HOW FUCKING PROGRESSIVE! WOMEN IN THE WORKFORCE?!?!?!?! HOW DO THEY DO IT??!?!?!?!

Fuck off Hanz-al-fuckyawife

Learn to read you illiterate faggot. The person I replied to said

>i will gladly let a women dress the way they want if she is not following a religion

The whole point of this thread is to expose the hypocrisy of so called "Christian libertarians" who advocate for personal freedom as well as modesty and tradition but then somehow shit on Muslim women who choose to dress the way they want to. The only consistent party here are ethnonationalists.

The american right is nihilistic, it's not a governing faction

So if leftists and Muslims oppose military adventures of the U.S. in the Middle East that would mean you are pro war? Even though your tax dollars will be spent by the trillions for some uselss nation building and killing people in the desert based on lies? If you think like this you are a retard.

>calling somebody a "libtard" is effective

>from Americans
user., your country has insisted that the death penalty be outlawed. You're way behind my country.

Use the redpill if you know so well.

But how would you be able to tell the apart?

I thought you little shits were anti feminism and wanted to advocate for women staying at home and raising children? Now you suddenly want more women in the work force, why is that ? What's wrong with nuclear family where a man works and earns enough and the woman is happy at home with the kids ?

Idgaf what they wear, as long as they wear it in africa

I totally support the right of Muslim husbands to tell their wives to not dress like dirty skanks. But they should do that in their own countries.

Real Sharia is Aryan Sharia

Here's a fact, if you wear a table cloth on your head you're a fucking moron. (Same goes for kneeling and putting your hands together in prayer. You're 100% stupid for practicing any religion).

I insist you read the "conversation" I was having with that individual; he wasn't very bright nor "worth it."

>look at my .jpg
But why?

You are a nigger get of this board nigger

>Why does Sup Forums not support the right of Muslim women to dress the way they want to?
I do. Idiots moaning about Hijabs or whatever are distracting from the primary issue which is their being here in the first place.

In that post he's right, user.

Turns out an entire board is not just reflective of one opinion.

This board is for 18 and up,come back after you are through your "all religion sucks"phrase

No one gives a fuck. It's the niqab and burqa people hate. It's not suitable for a civil society