Explain why capitalism is better than communism/socialism (Pro tip: you cant. Sup Forums btfo)
Explain why capitalism is better than communism/socialism (Pro tip: you cant. Sup Forums btfo)
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Not all of you and not always.
Capitalism allows for hard workers to live in prosperity
Especially when he have a job.
The only thing wrong with capitalism is that it’s too successful. We are the only country in the world with fat "poor" people. America is so rich that the people have become lazy, spoiled, self entitled assholes. Exactly like you, user. Because of capitalism, a useless idiot like you has the money and free time to dick around on the internet, bashing capitalism. You are welcome.
Communism always defaults to state capitalism either way, because communism can't improve shit. Capitalism is grounded in reality of which greeted economies thrive.
>i need someone to give me a job
Do you think jobs grow on trees?
If there's no work, start a business
communism is impossible without capitalism
Because we had both in retarded versions and now we can afford much more goods than before.
Capitalism leads to an expansion of wealth for everyone and communism makes everyone poor.
>because communism can't improve shit
Your 8 hr working day is a socialists work as all benefits, that labor union can grant you. As a women right to vote and free healthcare/education. Sorry haven't get your flag.
Well, during socialism, we were often hungry and/or in labour camps, with forced relocation to collective farms under armed guard.
Now under capitalism we are not hungry, and can have our own business without the threat of imprisonment and/or death.
None of the things you listed are good. Especially women's right to vote.
You don't understand, that I'm talking about Great Depression, do you?
>implying the average lower class lives in prosperity
Leave your ivory tower Ramon
Full freedom of speech and choice. You will have a comfy life without having the fear of being sent to a gulag. You a pretty dumb OP for making this thread desu tho
Enjoy your capitalism than, khoholique.
Anything is better than communism, communism goes against human nature, socialism is part of the transtition from capitalism to a utopic society.
Great depression was caused by government intervention. A much greater crash a few years prior stabilized easily when the market was allowed to function.
Compare the amount of democide taken place by capitalist countries versus communist/Marxist countries.
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And now, with capitalism, Gipsies are on the path to become a majority in the next decades.
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The problem with capitalism is the unequal sharing of wealth
The problem with socialism is the equal sharing of misery
Corporatism is the only choice
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>Gipsies are on the path to become a majority
5% to 6% is not a majority. Most are fleeing west. They are your problem now, as you westerners kept criticizing us that we fail to intergrate them. Your turn to try.
>Great depression was caused by government intervention.
Does not disprove that it was caused by capitalism. The state in it's current form is but a extension of the bourgeois
wow, that Boomer slogan totally disproves Das Kapital
It works.
Blame tax havens and corruption, not capitalism.
Look up the definition of "democide", moron.
It's the intentional murder of civilians by their government. Naturally occurring famines, famines resulting from mismanagement of resources or as a side effect of warfare aren't included.
>Great depression was caused by government intervention
It was caused by the main idea of stock market - it simply cant work without collapses.
>Explain why capitalism is better than communism/socialism
it is not both destroy the spirit of the nations beacuse they focus to much on materialism
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Neither really works. The cunts at the top will always shit on the poor cunts below. Ironically probably most true of communism.
>Great depression was caused by government intervention.
Better than no food for anyone ALL THE TIME
Because it is human nature to only work under pressure.
Capitalism creates constant soft pressure which ensures constant growth.
>ensures constant growth
what is the point of constant growth?
It efficiently allocates resources to those who demand such resources. Poor people are poor mostly because they are fucking lazy, don't know how to manage their money, and are generally retarded and deserve their life conditions. Only women and cucked soyboys pity them.
>capitalism is a perpetual great depression
Stop memeing, ivan
Educated and skilled workers do
Are you talking about Ireland and other poor colonies now? How does it prove your point?
It's not perpetual, its cyclical.
Stagnation is in fact moving backwards.
Could you imagine a society where there is no progress at all? Everything just stays the same - technology, politics, arts.
Pressure is the key to progression.
Btw, that is why inflation is necessary. It is the economic pressure.
Communism places all wealth and power into the hands of the government. That's not a good system and it will grow corrupt very fast.
Yeah I'm sure slaves in US enjoyed the privilege of living in a society so capitalist it was okay will selling humans. Capitalism doesn't have the moral high ground, it's not an argument. And communist societies can be rich. A China is an example. And before you say it's not communist, I'll retort with "no shit, communist countries never actually existed in real life". It's more communist than US, so communist enough for me.
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>hands of the government
Moar like hands of the (((Tribe)))
Communism is perfect, humans are not
I bet none of these faggot commieposters ever lived in a communist country
About 90% of the first Soviet Union government were shot in the 30s.
>kill people for being successful
>steal their things
>give them to underserving savages
Perfect.
Try again, faggot.
so you are just arguing for progress for progress sake? again i asked what is the point of it? to where do you want to progress?
In capitalism if you go and work for something, you get to keep what you earned.
People love to own things. People are selfish. People love privacy.
And yet Russian Jews enjoyed the special Soviet privilege of immigrating to Israel in the 1950's and 60's.
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i told you. post pro commie shit - we go out tonight and hunt and HURT fucking antifas... 2 down and I guess 3 to go now.
>you get to keep what you earned.
And few beans extra if your owner is in a good mood.
>guys don't reply to commie scum
It was a win-win situation.
>involuntarily entering into a contract as worker with business owner is akin to slavery
Nope.
Fuck off, commie.
So if I post something pro communist - you gonna punish other americans? What a treat. Here the complete works of Lenin for you.
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he will never answere to this post. it´s always like that, they can´t admit that they are wrong and that there is more to it than just "business owners are evil".
you don´t understand, communism is constant Great Depression.
It allows any person or group of people to manufacture and provide for niche interests and markets. If you want to buy a rally car, build a competition-grade rifle, assemble miniatures for historical wargames and so on, there's just one but many businesses to cater to it, each offering its own unique qualities for your individual tastes and preferences. Some people like to carry a Glock and others a Smith & Wesson, and they live in a society where they can both be satisfied with that they can carry.
Things like collectivization, dismantling of private enterprise, centralised/planned economies and having to make sure all seven billion of the world's people are cared for equally add together to make a complete anathema to anything resembling niche markets or product variety. A communist world is a world where the entire supermarket has nothing but store-brand products and you're forced to act like you're grateful for it or you get exiled to siberia for having the wrong thoughts.
They are not akin, they are coexisting in a capitalism society thru all it's history. And only fear of the commie revolutions made it change for a last age.
>Educated and skilled workers do
hmmm, so now only a few workers live in prosperity under capitalism. Really makes me think, you lying piece of shit
If ethnic Russians had seized control of their government, why didn't Stalin and his successors drop the communist facade and free their markets?
The only valuable idea in communism is sharing.
Sharing is caring.
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You made the comparison in your previous post.
Literal slavery existed in every Marxist regime of the 20th century.
>And only fear of the commie revolutions made it change for a last age.
What nonsense. Threat of communist revolution wasn't a factor when most western countries voluntarily chose to abolish the practice of slavery in their lands.
>why didn't Stalin and his successors drop the communist facade and free their markets?
They did. in the 90's. And it was disastrous. Just ask the russian user.
This.
Capitalism is better because it allows niche markets and innovation. Competition drives innovation and acts as a natural quality control. If there is a state sponsored automobile maker they have no real reason to innovate as they are the only option so consumers are forced to buy their product.
Capitalism is the unequal sharing of wealth, socialism/communism is the equal sharing of misery. OP BTFO
You should read something about WWII, comrade.
Communism is about force and coercion
Capitalism is about voluntary trade for goods and services.
Capitalism companies have to innovate to compete with better products at cheaper prices than their competitor.
Communism is basically mass theft via violent revolution.
Your not quoting marx are you?
and yet the poorest people in capitalistic countries are better off the majority of people in a communist country.
Pic related makes socialitsts happy. Everyone is equaly starving.
>Literal slavery existed in every Marxist regime of the 20th century.
You don't understand concept of slavery
>in th 90's
A little late given that Stalin came to power in the 30's. Why the delay?
Cuz we no?
>dat fat starving niggers.
Pic related makes capitalist happy.
Everyone is equaly unemployed.
Because Stalin wasn't a traitor, Chruschev was.
Most stock market bubbles and bursts are the result of central banks printing money and then stop printing money. From 1920 to 1928 the Federal Reserve increased the money supply by 400%. From 1929 to 1930 they decreased the money supply by 40%. A central bank is number 5 on Karl Marx's 10 planks of communism.
>yet the poorest people in capitalistic countries are better off the majority of people in a communist country
i dont think this is true ,
The FED is private, it should be state owned
you can live in a village of more than 150 people under capitalism
so what are you saying is that it wasnt real capitalism?
In a capitalist nation, you can opt out of it and join a hippie commune and the government will leave you alone and let you larp as a utopian retard.
In a communist nation, there's no such thing as opting out, aside from defecting. You are fucked. You are a slave to the system. Irony on steroids. Now fuck off, faggot.
>Literal slavery existed in every Marxist regime of the 20th century.
source?
Slavery existed in Saudi Arabia up until the turn of the Millennium, and it may still exist nowadays. Saudi Arabia is a country propped up by the capitalist west.
>Threat of communist revolution wasn't a factor
lol, just read any book about Europe in the 19th century. Welfare was created by Bismark as a way to placate the masses and prevent them from turning to socialism. Every workplace safety law was created due to socialist pressure. 8 hours workday equal.
The progressive destruction of the workers rights can be correlated with the fall of USSR. Or even better, it can be correlated with the end of marxism in the communist and socialist parties in Europe in the 70's.
>Stalin and his successors
>his successors
What are you trying to say? Russians were content with Bolshevik rule. They weren't "oppressed". It's not like Russian are "natural capitalists" or whatever the fuck you are talking about.
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You’d almost feel sorry for the Reds, if their idea of progress weren’t envy, slavery, and genocide. They’re trying to overthrow capitalism, a system so hateful to mankind that it’s practiced everywhere on the globe that has more than 2 people on it. Capitalism is an idea so ugly that it’s most charismatic proponents are bow tie wearing queefs who are Doctors of Economics and yet the proletariat are firmly in their camp. Can you imagine the suffering of ardent communists, who have had to watch the Revolution be sold out EVERY TIME for personal wealth and political domination while the true believers get shot, ice picked, or starved to death. If they were worth being called human beings, you’d have to pity them.