>have no real skill
>anything they can do, Ling Ling and Pajeet can do, but 90% cheaper
>want trade blockage so that other Americans would be forced to pay much higher price for goods
>basically asking people with actual skill to earn a living to subsidize their wage for no-skill jobs
How is this different from welfare?
they are our people, we support them
all of us should become university professors
this way we become a university-based economy
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SHOW FLAG LEAF
No different than gibs.
As you wish.
bastard
You see the difference is that these people actually want to work and provide for their families and all they want is that opportunity
You average nigger welfare family doesn't want to work and wanta you to provide for their families, offer them a job and they wont take it because then they will lose their welfare bucks
How is this different from fast food niggers demanding $15/hr minimum?
>How is this different from welfare?
It isn't different, and both are necessary tools of a potent and stable society. You withdraw from economy. Mao Xinping rules over a centralised state with long-term goals and coherency in mind. He slowly breaks down parts of your society, and bribes and manipulates other parts. In the end, all your bases are belong to them.
I don't know OP. How is taking money forcefully from other people in exchange for absolutely nothing different from taking money from a willing employer in exchange for labour? You tell me.
the competition is now between Pajeet, Mkwekwe and Juan to see which can do the most while making as little as possible to qualify for a position at a sweatshop in China. Whitey is saying Fuggit and exiting the workforce
They could just get rid of you instead you know.
So, it's okay to force employers to raise wage for low-skill jobs by artificially cutting off pool of low-skill labor overseas?
Welfare is okay as long as there is an "employer" to stand in as a middle-man?
The free market isn't "free" if you can ship all the jobs to a country that essentially has a billion slave laborers. These people work for the equivalent of $1 a day. If we're going to live in a globalized free trade world, we can't allow a billion people who to live under a repressive totalitarian state take part in trade (at least in this way). It breaks the system.
it's not, other than that in 20 years welfare will still be a thing, where as most of these jobs won't
A voting bloc that lobbies for restrictions on the rest of the economy (import tarrifs) in order to raise their own wages is no different than a voting bloc that lobbies for higher taxes on others in order to increase their own welfare payments. They're both equally retarded and selfish.
you faggot lmao
white people make great neighbors and citizens
they are solid breeding stock
we can import genetic trash to boost short term profits but were ruining the harmony of our future citizens once we reach the point where basically all the work is automated
Our people come first. It's called nationalism you moron.
I wouldn't mind embracing a socialist agenda as long as it were nationalist. Closed borders. White.
>socialism is okay when I do it
beta faggots like you wouldn't understand hard work. stay on your comfy office chair you weak worthless twig motherfucker. you'll get what is coming for you sooner or later.
The white race is done, blue collar jobs are outsourced.
>I lift heavy stuff for job, that means I should be paid fat wage despite billions of Pajeets who can lift the same heavy stuff for 20 cents
blue collar "logic"
>but 90% cheaper
Its not about who can do the job for cheaper or better or faster.
Its about taking care of your American family, friends and neighbors instead of just outsourcing everything to make a few more dollars.
If you had any friends, you would understand this.
So, just welfare gibs?
Free market capitalism says, cheaper done = more efficient, why linger in the past?
Non-whites are not very good in first world countries and must be artifically products
Is this even in English?
*artifically supported
>have no real skill
Because the education system is designed to fail and create entitled morons.
>anything they can do, Ling Ling and Pajeet can do, but 90% cheaper
Only for now, when Pachink get their feet under their desk they will want the same entitlements.
>want trade blockage so that other Americans would be forced to pay much higher price for goods
Want trade reciprocity to ensure American made products are allowed as equal an entry into China as Chinese good currently receive in America.
>basically asking people with actual skill to earn a living to subsidize their wage for no-skill jobs
Basically asking low skilled people to give up living decently in the land they were born just because there is ALWAYS someone in the World willing to do a job cheaper. Mass migration ARTIFICIALLY reduces wages in the employment market which massively benefits companies with large workforces.
Also, social unrest has a cost way beyond just the price of cheap shit!
>Want trade reciprocity to ensure American made products are allowed as equal an entry into China as Chinese good currently receive in America.
Remember when America got this with first Europe, then Japan, and then South Korea?
Nobody wanted overpriced American goods there either.
Having a middle class is the only thing that separates a country like the US from a thousand shithole third world hellholes.
The US is lucky enough that it's domestic market is big enough that they could go it alone and probably have the average citizen better off than competing with Bangladesh.
You don't want want to be Bangladesh and nobody should have to compete with that. That's just a race to the bottom that nobody wins... except a tiny fraction of ultra elites.
Everyone else gets poverty and crime and misery. The middle class supports education and healthcare and everything else -- for the broad mass of a nation, not just a few pockets of wealth.. like you see in Mexico or the Middle East.
Never compete with people who are being exploited... you will only get exploited yourself. You need to DEMAND that average people get their share of the nations wealth.
If 90% of your country is shit.. your country is shit.
But this is basically "gib." Why won't anybody just admit it's a "gib?"
As someone who has worked in skilled labor, get fucked.
>B-b-but chang lee and poo can do it cheaper
Yeah, and produce shit tier products.
>americans will pay more
And i gladly will for long lasting american made products. My tools, knives, etc are all american made, and i've had the same tools for years, still in perfect condition. Spend money on good shit, dont be such a cheap faggot shlomo
It worked before 1965, when we started importing millions and outsourcing to keep wages low.
We don't need half of the shit produced today. Our society is wasteful and if people had to spend more, we'd use our resources more wisely.
Having 10 shirts instead of 5 literally changes nothing in life, and that's basically what lower prices allows us to do. Also, products that are made well and last a long time would have much greater value, and the production of such products would increase if consumption was lowered.
>How is this different from welfare?
Are you suggesting welfare should be abolished? Because almost no-one wants welfare abolished, even people who think its being abused just think it needs stricter controls and to be less generous, but few would agree to remove it entirely.
if you punch a fattie like this in a stomach, does it feel pain or does it just bounce?
You fags are too dumb for education.
Pajeet and ling ling make inferior products.
You might sink.
>Are you suggesting welfare should be abolished
No. I'm asking why people are pretending this scheme to artificially inflate low-skill labor wages isn't welfare.
Why should I not be free to purchase their supposedly inferior products, if I think I'm getting a better deal?
What kind of traitorous piece of shit would post something like this?
Also they don't have to adhere to safety standards, can employ child labour and receive overseas aid. Thus Western workers actually get taxed to pay into countries that will steal their jobs.
Nobody is stopping you from buying their stuff
you just cant import them to the US.
Most of the repetitive factory jobs are gone, there is bearly no one doing the same same box all day long.
What you refer is blue-collar jobs are trades, I really want to see an educated college person on an oil drilling platform.
>>have no real skill
Being a technician is not a real skil?
>>anything they can do, Ling Ling and Pajeet can do, but 90% cheaper
Then why Pajeet´s home country is garbage
>>want trade blockage so that other Americans would be forced to pay much higher price for goods
Just like the college educated scammers who want a monopoly on education?
>basically asking people with actual skill to earn a living to subsidize their wage for no-skill jobs
if there is consent on both sides Im ok with it
>implying modern day academia requires a high IQ
Youre not my people. I dont even know you. Why should i trust you with my money.
Youve begun to use literal nigger logic. Congrats.
well.. atleast have the decency to still point yourself out when the mob comes.
>if there is consent on both sides Im ok with it
There are businesses that want to purchase the same labor at $30/hr when they can have it for $2/hr in India?
>ling ling has never come up with an original design in his life and lives off manufacturing products from stolen American blueprints with inferior materials
>Pajeet can't figure out indoor plumbing
American made products are almost always superior to Chinese made. An American company that outsources production to China also ends up with their designs being counterfeited on the same assembly lines producing the "genuine" article.
The Chinks wouldn't be able to survive with tariffs and restrictions on the Jews here that market their products.
You think socialism is cool but only if you do it? Regardless of who implements it, its an ideology made for the economically illiterate hordes who somehow belive the government can spend your own money better than the you can.
>have no real skill
false
>anything they can do, Ling Ling and Pajeet can do, but 90% cheaper
false
>want trade blockage so that other Americans would be forced to pay much higher price for goods
false
>basically asking people with actual skill to earn a living to subsidize their wage for no-skill jobs
false
There. Did that answer all your questions?
This is what I truely love about libertarians. They only care about getting thr government out of business when it means giving poor people the ability to eat but when it comes to the centuries of corporate welfare and draconian shit the government has done to keep capitalists in power and stopping the workers from forming communities and companies around mutual aid they are completely compliant. The only reason it could ever be possible for someone to send something halfway across the world and send it back is because transportation is incredibly cheap. And transportation is only that cheap because the government heavily subsudizes it. The transportation industry is incredibly subsusized by thr government which allows such insanely innefficient capitalist logic of sending something around the world twice just to sell it to someone who has all the mwans and motive to do it locally.
Immigration is reason USA is not socialist like Europe because native population resist more welfare.
This is why average American is way richer than average german/British/french.
But dumb alt rights don't get this
American shoppers voted with their dollars that, in most cases, they prefer products that aren't as sturdy or reliable but vastly cheaper.
Americans love to buy American, except when they shop at Walmart, Target, Costco, Home Depot, Lowes, etc.
Well my money and i will be long gone before your velcro sneaker wearing forum mob manages to muster up the energy to show up at my door. So just like all socialist takeovers, youll end uo worse than before cause i chased all the rich people (with all the actual money and jobs) away.
Stop advocating nigger behavior. Socialism is for niggers.
Probably because all their manufacuring jobs are gone and wages have been incredibly depressed for a long time meabing they have to get by with cheaper shitty products
>import third worlders who will work for far less than a native born American.
>do this because corporations don't want to pay the market value for labor in the west.
>How is this different from welfare?
So you're fine with importing people who share no cultural or genetic legacy in order to see a corporation's stock go up 0.05% in a quarter, all at the expense of diluting the culture of a country which allowed such wealth and prosperity in the first place.
Americans were ditching domestic products for Chinese trinkets since the 80s, you know, before the wage stagnation really set in?
See also: meteoric rise of Walmart, the pioneering purveyor of cheap Chinese trinkets, diving head deep when other retailers were weary of carrying unreliable Chinese-based products
So you think America can be richer by increasing the cost of products?
'You' are not importing anyone.
Then that person is not a libertarian. If youre not consistent in your anti goverment principles than youre a hypocrite. Just like all the other tards here who want socialism but only for themselves.
>lets get rid of niggers so we can create our own out of our own people with more socialism.
pol.
>economically literate
>socialist
Pick one
because gibs are detrimental to society you moronic shitlib. Try and find an argumentative strategy other than the GOTCHA moment you lazy faggot.
I think americans can be richer by using tarrifs to increase investment and job growth in the local economy instead of shipping their wealth and jobs outside of their country, yes.
>manufacturing is a no skill job
Nigger the movement of capital is legal and the business owner can get the 2$ wage, the point is that he can´t import freely the product of that labor
Say goodbye to your manufacturing base my guy. I hope strict adherence to ideology was worth it the real life consequences for allowing a large portion of your country’s economy to be lost forever.
>How is working different from welfare?
Only a Democrat could ask a question this fundamentally stupid.
Kill yourself, commie.
I would love to be able to do the mental gymnastics required to make this statement. I just cany bring myself to be that retarded.
Feel free to go into detail on how higher tariffs mean higher wages. Or how this will lower prices for all.
Nope.North Koreans have zero unemployment and produce all things.They aren't rich.
If Japan can build truck for $20000 no need for an American to buy truck from Ford for $30000.
Person can save $10000 and the same money can be used to consume 'other things'
So that's net gain
>in most cases, they prefer products that aren't as sturdy or reliable but vastly cheaper.
Wrong.
Professionals still prefer sturdy and reliable products, and consumers only seem to prefer cheap over reliable because they lack the practical experience to realize just how unreliable the foreign products they purchase are.
No one PREFERS crap other than scat fetishists.
Yes and thats when wages start to fall and debt in american households begins to increase while the opposite is true for the richest subset of americans. This is a direct result of the flight of jobs to china.
>This is a direct result of the flight of jobs to china.
And not massive tax cut at the top of the tax bracket?
>I'll replace my flag with an elephant so everyone won't realize I'm a cock-sucking libfaggot.
sage
Only if the Japanese truck is of equal or superior quality to the Ford truck. They're not actually "saving $10,000" if they have to dump $15,000 worth of repairs into the truck over it's lifetime.
How exactly does the guy at the top paying less taxes decrease my wages and increase my debt?
>>anything they can do, Ling Ling and Pajeet can do, but 90% cheaper
Robots can do cheaper still. Capitalism is dumb.
Then people won't buy it.
People look for quality+price while buying the product.If they find right combination for them they will buy it otherwise they won't.
Because it's not, you're just an ancap with autism. I'm not sure how to convince you because youve obviously closed your mind to all reason, but to everyone itt you just come across as a pedantic faggot.
Dopey leftist thinks he's making an intellectual argument. Sad!
You said widening income gap is due to jobs moving to China. You're saying that widening income gap doesn't have anything to do with tax cuts directed at the rich?
Im saying investments in local economies by stoppinf wealth from leaving the country helps build that economy. The opposite effect can be seen in post-soviet oligarchs who took almost all the assets and capital from Russia to overseas which has absolutely destroyed the economy from the prespective of the average person despite russia actually producing and profiting off of very wealthy industries. You can also look back historical to a number fd examples of tarrifs protecting a local economy from global competition which in turn fueled the growth of other industries.
did a machine operator embarass you in the breakroom or something? you sound booty bothered, friend.
North Koreans dont have access to the infinite pool of capital and trade other countries do. Its honestly shocking the north korean economy can function at all.
>I have the perfect argument to disprove everything you said, but I'm not going to give it to you!
Did I read you correctly?
>Then people won't buy it.
wrong
>People look for quality+price while buying the product.
and they very rarely take into account the cost of lifetime repairs when they do so, typically because that information is unavailable to them.
No.it has to do with occupational license laws.
You need costly college degree to get occupational license.Obviously poor people can't do that and there goes their chance of competing in job market or starting a new job to adjust in job market.
Obviously they demand protectionism because they feel all other doors are shut
It really doesnt. Wages have actively fallen and debt has increased. The rich are only getting richer because they own industries ehich profit off the slave labor in china
>can't even read IDs
>expects his harebrained economic opinions to be taken seriously
What are you bitching about exactly? Unions? The end to TPP? What?
But then cost will be borne by them.why do you worry?
That's capitalism.People who make wrong decision have to pay.While in socialism people have to pay for others mistakes
Exactly.And they will get vast sums of capital if they open their economy.Just like South Korea got
Machines and industrialisation and robots already replaced humans a long time ago. You see, if you have an idea, you can just design it and then great a factory to pump out millions of the things you created. You can use low skilled workers too.
The thing is, none of this benefits anyone other than the original maker/company owner/founder. People should stop buying all of these products and return to buying products made by local people, real people, and preferably people in their own network of friends or family.
And youll also get the huge income disparity that south korea is facing now. Its a devil's bargin but theyre is a good middle ground between completely closed economy and completely open both of which will result in an incredibly impoverished working class.
Trump talks about being about America first. OP talks about replacing our people with indians. The mindset of this stupid capitalistic globalism is wrong and Trump is right. Figure it out. But as I said, it goes further than just a national level. It should be at a local level and a non-industrial level. That is the natural progression of this way of thinking.
because otherwise, Trump can say "I am America first", but then does he support robots? Is he robots first but not americans first?
>What are you bitching about exactly
Not calling welfare welfare.
People blatantly asking for gibs disguised as "wage" because getting welfare is for niggers and they're not niggers.
Ling Ling and Pajeet are indentured labourers with absolutely zero quality of life that live in polluted shit holes until they die very young and full of cancer.
It would also be cheaper to remove all environmental and labour regulations and have children manufacturer the products here, then you could even cut out the transportation costs, but that sounds like a terrible place to live
Thankfully our ancestors took action up to and including dying during labour disputes to make sure the people had a chance to live a decent life here.
Comparing laws requiring labourers and the environment to be treated with dignity to welfare is absolutely absurd and you should feel bad for making this post.