I'm an atheist with a nihilistic outlook on life. I would love to be religious...

I'm an atheist with a nihilistic outlook on life. I would love to be religious, to see purpose in existence beyond simply procreating and seeking to fulfill base pleasures - but I cannot. Religions are purely man-made concepts with zero evidence to support their ultimate promise: an afterlife.
TL;DR - Please help me become religious, I want to believe but see zero evidence of religious 'truth'.

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For the love of God, bump.

Same here, it even makes it hard to beleive in philosphy as well, since morals are merely man made and subjective as well. Most athiests argue thst you can have morals without religion, but fail to realize there is no logical reason to follow morality unless threat of punishment keeps you in line and acting accordingly with the collectives values.

I would say I am pretty moralistic, in the sense that I treat others as I would have them treat me.

My main issue is that there is no real purpose to life beyond extreme self-interest. The drug cartel boss, who presides over murder and misery, is ultimately one of life's "winners" in the sense that he is exercising his Will to its fullest extent throughout the few decades of his life before eternal oblivion.
The religious person who devotes their life to a man-made God, and forsakes their own earthly pleasures is surely a slave? If this is true, why shouldn't we commit crimes if we can get away with it? Isn't this what we are witnessing in the West with our obvious social decay?

can kinda relate desu
atheist but wish i believed in something so i could at least not deal with this existential crisis every night

Hey OP. The Earth is flat. They lie to hide God.

cya

I hope this helps as a basic start:

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3gdeV4Rk9EfL-NyraEGXXwSjDNeMaRoX

There are nights where I literally lie awake wondering "what's the point of it all?" - no, I do not contemplate suicide or anything like that. I just struggle to deal with the fact that life is ultimately meaninglessness - or at least it appears that way.

Also, if this is a one-way trip for all of us what should we aim for as a species? Maximising human happiness through shared resources or a Darwinian approach where a minority of individuals should be able to scramble to the top of the human pyramid (like cartel bosses) and to hell with the misery we inflict on others, because it's all meaningless anyway? Only personal gratification matters in such a nihilistic universe.

I act in this way too, but I believe many people are conditioned to enjoy doing things that are considered moral. If I had a choice between stealing or helping someone, I would choose the latter because it brings me more happiness and less guilt. Be it from my personality or my upbringing in a society that values these things, I still enjoy acting in what would be considered morally good ways.
As for society I feel a stong sense of national and community identity has all but ceased in the West. There are no roles for the average person to fall into, roles which can give people a feeling of responsibility and purpose. It is without these roles that society begins to break down, and the West has reached what some people call the "behavioral sink". In a place where your identity can be whatever you create, why can so few people find purpose and meaning? I personally have no idea, but it saddens me.

The Darwinian model is the more natural one, and has proven to be the most successful in propagating human economic and technological development. So I think I wouldn't mess with the economy, there, bud. What we really need, is some kind of cultural revolution where we go back to what was valued a hundred years ago. Limit women's rights, reconstruct the nuclear family. Undo all the bad shit that has caused our behavioral sink into degeneracy and stagnation.

Religion cannot be taken literally, you are too consumed with the literal interpretation of the universe around you. Think theoretically for a moment, if you had all the answers that you seek, then how would you feel at that moment?
I mean at the end of the day, user, what makes you feel like life is utterly meaningless?

You'll never be religious. Especially since you've already written it off. However you could have some success with being more spiritual and then within that practice you can discover what can be gained from procreation.

As an aside: this morning I was heavily hungover from a whisky-binge from the night prior and in my post-alcohol stupor I noticed something: the temporary reduction in my cognitive abilities brought with it a sense of contentment. I couldn't really think beyond my immediate needs: thirst, hunger, simplistic social interactions with strangers (I was in a supermarket).

I do not mean to sound arrogant, but with my IQ being dulled by my hangover I actually felt more at ease with the world. This is how the average person must feel and is probably why most normies can feel content in a meaninglessness world when they are fed with a diet of trash tv, junk food and superficial friendships.
Is "knowledge" therefore a curse?

Go watch the video on xvideos called "ten shemales destroy one guy", you'll become god-fearing after watching just the first few minutes of that.

I used to think I was "too smart" for my peers because i was. I doused myself in drugs and alcohol and became more stupid.
It's not a good idea user. Your problem is a mixture of having too much free time, not having enough responsibility and being under stimulated.

You need to get your shit together. Get busy living or get busy dying.

Study the golden mean, divine proportions and ancient spiritual mathematics. Once you notice how seamlessly every aspect of the universe adheres to only one pattern which recurs in everything, you can find the fingerprint of god and will notice, it looks much like yours.

I think it is utterly meaningless because it is impermanent. I think of it like this: If I was going to paint a wall today, yet tomorrow rain would wash away all of my effort then what is the point in painting the wall?

If all of our life's efforts are pretty much erased (at least from our own perspective) upon death, then surely only the Darwinist principle of spreading our genes is the ONLY real truth?

The African peasant whose descendents will be around in 100,000 years has surely achieved more than say someone like Beethoven whose music will be forgotten in the distant past, not having had children himself?

Hi, you don't need to be religious to see purpose in life.
I'm also an atheist, and I believe that life has no meaning. So I understood I needed to find a meaning for my life, and decided to pursue a career that I feel it's important for the human race and also makes me feel good. I am very happy, and fulfilled, and I even consider some experiences I go through in work as "spiritual", even though I don't believe in a soul or spirits.

I think you should try and just do what you want in life, and have a meaning. Only you can do this for yourself, I guess.
Best of luck, OP

Another good idea wohld be to reduce the accesability to voting by certain people al la Starship Troopers, I know its kind of cheesy but allowing only those who have skin in the game and are willing to sacrifice for their nation/group/community should be able to decide the fate and agenda of the state.
>"When you vote, you are exercising political authority- you are using force- and force my friends, is violence."

religion is for pussies and niggers

Father, family, faith.

Honestly user, I felt just like you a year ago. I was an atheist and I drank nearly every few days to help numb the pain. But a funny thing happened to me. I started thinking, if it’s all meaningless anyway, just like a video game; why not aim for the top score?

Seriously, think of all the great things you could do in the limited time you have. I’ve already quit drinking, I don’t do drugs anymore, and I’ve made seriously positive improvements not only in my own life; but my friends and family’s lives as well. (Back story: grew up in a single mother household, father was never there and was an alcoholic/drug addict). I’ve even gotten a good relationship with my father now, and I’m his role model lol.

The way I see it, you just need to look within yourself and realize that you can be the shining light and pillar of strength in someone else’s life. Once you do that, you yourself become stronger. Seriously, no religion required. But spirituality helps I guess.

Cheers mate, hope that makes some sense to you.

Stop thinking about how big it all is and start thinking about the seemingly small changes that can mean everything to someone.

Also, I agree with , you sound like you seem to think you're very smart, maybe you are. I would highly recommend you to take a career in physics then, and you'll find out just like I did how wonderful our universe is, and you might be able be able to find a meaning.

Get your shit together indeed

The crazy truth is that I am a father. My young daughter is sat beside me laughing with great contentment at cat videos on YouTube. Oh, to have a child's sense of ease with the world! A fat cat is trying to squeeze into a box, and the box has just fallen over and my daughter can hardly breathe through laughter. I suppose her happiness is contagious - I suddenly just feel like "The sincere laughter of your child is one Life's treasures!"

Tomorrow I will drive my family into the mountains and enjoy the spectacle of Nature. Seeing its splendour through the same eyes that our ancestors passed down to us.

I think Life is simply about enjoying each moment. It doesn't offer life after death, but perhaps there is eternity in a cherished moment. These moments are the core of our lives.

The first step would probably be realizing your soul is actually yearning for a connection to God, not religion.

Religion: man-made, establishing guidelines to lead a person towards a higher goal
Your Faith: The bond and level of connection you have made to God.

Religion is man-made, but it's purpose is to boost your faith. God wants you to have a personal connection to Him and increase in faith. You can spend your whole life looking into religions, but if your goals are only set on going through the motions with a religion, you won't find that sense of fulfillment.

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Can someone help me know these symbols?
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> Taoism
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Just join the party and become a JW
Fastest growing religion and what not
jw.org/en/bible-teachings/

Here's the real redpill: no religious person with an IQ over 90 actually thinks their religion is factually accurate. This is why most people willing to actually kill and die for their faith are braindead sand niggers.

Most people in the west are only religious because they enjoy the community, the morals and coping mechanism effect of pretending there's a benevolent creator in an afterlife, so they keep up the charade for their own benefit, the benefit of their community and to pass it on to their children so it can keep going.

So basically just start LARPing like everyone else is, and you'll find you actually do start to semi-believe it by just talking and thinking about it being real for long enough, and get the emotional benefits of it. You'll also get the negative effects of it though, like feeling as though there's a huge pressure on you to fulfill whatever plan, feeling as though there's an imaginary audience judging your thoughts and feeling as though there's a spotlight on you at all times, but most people raised with religion seem to be stuck with those anyway even if they lose their faith later in life like you probably did so whatever.

Life has as much meaning you give it. Watch Jordan Peterson. Then watch Bill Nye "saves the world". I was an Atheist for over 10 years (lowercase liberal small state. NOT a fucking commie/socialist/Marxist)

Then I seen the work of the Devil. Or what you can say is unnatural and to its core destructive to all things to the end.

This may not make much scene till you go through it. Jesus is real. Even if he never lived. Put it to you this way.

Would you follow the teachings of Superman, Or Muhammad? Which would you base a cultural around?

I have a suspicion that the best priest are secretly Atheists. But know that the world is better with them spreading the good word then to let us devolve back to savages. Humans will get nasty. Just post a Africa hate thread and watch the videos of warlords and terrorists as an example of what man can do. That was mankind, scene the beginning.

We once lived in a world were genocide was the stats quo and slavery was a new liberal idea for its time. Shits fucked up man.

If you're serious, and I mean really serious, it's very easy to show you why the Judeo-Christian worldview is the only true one and not a single religion on earth can compare to it whatsoever once you actually study, even just on a superficial level.

I highly recommend you start binge-watching video on Youtube for the following 2 people:
1) William Lane Craig
2) Ravi Zacharias

Also, I haven't watched it yet, but I've heard that "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel who used to be a real Atheist who studied Christianity very hard to try to persuade his newly converted wife to come back to her senses, but eventually became a bold Christian himself, is also good.

Here's the video:
youtube.com/watch?v=XqgQ9g2MV_8

There's even a movie made about it, I saw that one, it was quite cool.

Also, you can find plenty of supernatural miracles done by God all over the world, just look at what disciples and regular believers do in the name of Jesus, here are some names to use in your search:
Pete Cabrera Jr
Tom Loud
Thomas Fischer
Also check out The Last Reformation.

God bless you on your journey! I recommend you copy this message to Notepad so you won't lose this information, it's very valuable :)

The African Peasants bloodline may end any decade. It's dependent on western aide, Beethoven's music will be preserved and gushed over for thousands of years to come, most likely. That's a single person, that is the achievement of a single man, were still talking about him long after he's dead. If you are an exceptional individual, the mark you make may leave a permanent mark in the psyche of humankind. No one is ever going to forget about Nikola Tesla.

Lifes efforts are not erased on death, that's where you're being tripped up at. You assume that, but it's not necessarily true. Reproduction is just something that every organism does, in order to pass on their genetics. But you can have a memetic impact on history, that's where you're wrong.

Are you an atheist?

Everything you just said sounds like a good thing, when I think in the wider scale of what ails humanity.

>their ultimate promise: an afterlife
I wouldn't argue it's the "ultimate promise." It's a promise, but I think anyone who's developed in their Christian faith sees it as the most incomprehensible and irrelevant one. Our hymns sing of heaven, golden gates, nonstop praise, and yet its what our faith can do here on earth that is important. Show me faith without works and I will show you my faith through my works.

Unfortunately, you're a nihilist, meaning anything it could offer you beyond an afterlife is utterly meaningless to you. It could give you a stable family, a code of conduct that you and your cohorts could live by to make life more pleasant (I grew up in a dysfunctional house where everyone swears and yells at each other. The shift into a well-adjusted family is world shattering), and rules to live by that make you a better, stronger and more resilient person.

Haha, it's funny. When they knock our door, my wife and I invite them in to chat. I enjoy the certainty in their Faith and the positivity in their work. However, each time they mention God and His plan, I wince inwardly because it's at that precise moment that I realise their belief is built on sand. They are lovely people though, and I wish them the best.

Just empty your mind for a few weeks. Clean your room and work out with a balanced diet. Focus on your job and if possible your romantic lovelife, but in any case stop fapping more than twice per week and cut out the porn.

By shedding activities that purely revolve around seeking desire you will feel a change for the better. Let us know by then OP, you're not alone in this struggle.

But you don't know what lies beyond death. You're making the assumption that the Darwinist principle of spreading our genes IS the only real truth.
You have no memory of being in your mother's womb, you have no memory of being born, but we both know it happened and that's how you're here. The second your life is snuffed out and everything goes black is just the same as being in your mother's womb. You still exist, you just didn't know it.
Obviously you can detect activity in the womb that you can't detect on a person who's dead, but that doesn't really mean much if we're only talking about one dimension. Look for whatever kind of activity on a dead body and finding none doesn't truly mean anything. It's like me trying to use a barometer as a smoke detector. If you don't have the tools available then you can't prove something exists, but that doesn't mean to say that it doesn't. The first dinosaur bone didn't just suddenly come into being when it was discovered, it was there the entire time, but until someone found it and proved what it was, it was just there existing.

Your daughter belongs to black men.

If you don't give up seeking, and are honest about your own faults & weaknesses, and are merciful about the faults of others, then you will sooner or later find the truth. Or actually, the truth will "find you."

The only part you are responsible for is honestly seeking, in patience and humility, and asking the creator to grant you faith. And he will do it eventually, even if it takes longer than you think it should. It will seem like you are waiting on him, but it is more likely he is waiting on you to become mature enough to handle the truth.

Depending on where you look for truth, it may even require years or decades of looking in the wrong places before you realize those answers were not the ultimate truth.

At some point, it is necessary to understand and meditate on the teachings of Jesus, so I would recommend just starting there. I mean actually reading the scriptures yourself, not listening to some tv preacher's opinions about it. For some, this will also require giving up your own prejudices about 'Christianity' that are based on your previous mental/emotional reactions to churches, religious schools, parents, and hypocrite/fake "Christians."

See, I understand you points entirely. My wife often attends the local church along with our children - it offers a sense of community and many of the attendees are decent people. Yet, we are both atheists and explain the world to our children in scientific terms (but add splashes of Scandinavian mythology as my wife is Danish, as well as Christian explanations - we simply tell them that is what some people also believe)

However, if Christianity is more about the here and now (and the afterlife is unknown, why not be a National Socialist? I mean that with sincerity. It offers a strong moral framework, a sense of community and a sense of the nation working towards a common goal. Remove the genocidal ideological arguments, retain the pride it teaches in one's kin and nation, then it can be repackaged as NS-lite.

Both rational thinking and applied science lead to religion/spirituality and discredit nihilism.
It's funny to me when atheists claim to stand by them but then decry the divine as having no evidence.

I appreciate what you are saying.

No one can determine exactly what "life" is - even when you strip life back to its core of simply wanting to pass on DNA, the actual concept of life is far more complex. It isn't just a series of chemical reactions that seek to self-perpetuate.

Mixing a series of random chemicals together doesn't constitute life, yet Dawkins et al teach that at its core life is little more than complex chemical reactions. I don't think I can accept this view.
It amazes me that within 700 million years of its formation, life appeared on Earth. To me, this offers a sense of proof that life is Spiritual - in that if the conditions are right then it is almost certain to spring up anywhere in the Universe - which implies that life is MEANT to occur, it isn't a freak accident.

National Socialism is a political ideology, not a religion. You could be a nat soc and a Christian, and it might well be the case that those two are a very compatible pair.
Look at your Church though, and then look at what a gathering of "national socialists" looks like in the states. The former is a far more potent group, even if many sects currently waver under poor and/or unworldly leadership (It really is too easy for someone to put on a suit and call themselves a preacher).

This is a great video for debunking the "Muh God of The Gap" or "Science explains everything" nonsense that some Atheists promote.

youtube.com/watch?v=CltwD0Ek9Kk

Meditate, for hours, then come and tell us how religion sucks

Stop searching for what you already do not believe is there.
Create : youtube.com/watch?v=MIcBfJw__k0

Give yourself meaning.

>occams razor
dear god religious fags never come up with new arguments

>cuckeeism

>using sodomite language while being the actual sodomite
Hell is for ever!

I dont think so. All their beliefs are based on the Bible, and their belief that the Bible is from God is all based on factual/logical/historical and some emotional points.
Tbh their unique christian views are formed from their intense study of the Bible, which make more sense than mainstream christianity.