Solving the obesity problem

Worldwide obesity has nearly tripled since 1975. In 2016, more than 1.9 billion adults, 18 years and older, were overweight. Of these over 650 million were obese. Obesity is preventable but most people are gluttonous pigs.

How do we stop the obesity epidemic?

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Fuck that, user. Costco hotdogs are the shit.

>but most people are gluttonous pigs
this is not the problem. if medieval serfs were fed the diet we have today they would be just as obese

>Costco hotdogs are the shit
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Literally this. Costco food is god tier, and cheaper than fucking fast food

This though. Go to the gym fatty OP

Educate people more about nutrients and importance of exercise

Use public health system to help people determine optimal diets for themselves based on their genetics and family history

Scrap BMI as a catch-all indication of healthy diet

Increase regulation of sugar-based drinks and their marketing

You become fat from eating too many calories, gluttony, doesn't matter where those calories come from.

Is that diarrhea in this sandwich?

Your information is out of date. There are in fact differences in calories between macro nutrients.

>Insults Costco hot dogs

SAGE

Let them eat themselves to death.
Natural selection mates, or moral selection as it were. Gluttony kills.

>ITT all these niggers shitting on cotsco doggos since they can't pay for the membership to ever try them

Put down the fucking fork.
Simple as that.

and modern diet has many many more calories per nutrient than anicent ones. it is only natural to eat more, and starvation diets will only lead to worse malnutrition.

It's fucking sugar, both refined and in carbs, as well as imitation sugar. It's fucking our bodies up dawg.

It's quite fucking simple

starvation dieters

Mandatory keto dieting till the early teenage years, where the kids would get taught about dieting and nutrition, and would be able to pick their own diet (with guidance, of course). This would be hard to pull off in the US, but in the EU it ought to be possible.
The first generation of parents would need to be educated regarding nutrition and dieting, but that would get passed from the second generation on to the third without any meddling.

tax people for being fat

>if medieval serfs were fed the diet we have today they would be just as obese
>the diet we have today

I don't know about you m8 but I'm not a fat fucker.. Sounds like some bullshit to me. People are fat because they eat shit foods, and too much of it. Combine that with a lack of excersize, and you've got America or the UK.. How is it there are still non-fat Anglo's around if it's all the diet they eat?

>differences in calories

The implication being that eating too much of them doesn't make you fat if they're in the right macro group? Sounds like bs m8...

>BF% over 15?
>go to our free state-sponsored camp, or pay a bigger tax!
While this sounds great, it wouldn't just work if you tackled the consumers. You have to target the manufacturers and implement some sort of sugar tax that would discourage most of them from using so much sugar in their produts.

people have different resilience to these things which is completely genetically determined.

you are an idiot.

Unironically this

See

Then watch:

youtube.com/watch?v=ceFyF9px20Y

A calorie is a calorie is junk science, and even at face value falls apart. Do you really think your body will have the same response to an apple as to a big mac, or the equivalent amount of Coca Cola? Sugar is absolutely behind the obesity epidemic, and is hidden under many different names throughout the food supply. The hormonal response your body has to sugar alone completely eliminates the calories in calories out mantra. The video itself is about 1.5 hours, so any response before that time indicates you haven't even bothered watching it.

dont over eat?

Fast food and other types of junk food is cheaper than say vegetables and fruits, and also vegetables and fruits have a shorter shelf life due to it rotting. But in all honesty, I think it has to deal with laziness. And the fact that it takes roughly 45 minutes or so to make a healthy meal rather than going to McDonald's which takes 5 minutes.

I agree, I've never been to Costco but that dog looks fucking delicious

>people have different resilience to these things which
What things?
>is completely genetically determined.
>completely
So whether or not a person is fat, has nothing to do with how much calories they take in vs burn? Unlikely.
>you are an idiot.
What exactly in our diet today makes 'us' so fat than? And what is it about that part of our diet that's so devious and malicious that it makes us genetically unable to stop or change the consumption of it?

The efficiency with which your body processes various types of nutrients is genetically determined. The more efficient your body is at processing a type of nutrient, the more calories you get from it and the fatter it makes you.

>What exactly in our diet today makes 'us' so fat than?

Refined sugar.

>And what is it about that part of our diet that's so devious and malicious that it makes us genetically unable to stop or change the consumption of it?

Genetically? Nothing. However it does bring on hormonal responses that equate to addiction. Sugar addiction is a very real thing, and denial of that is ludicrous. People generally don't do things that are terrible for them unless there is some type of addiction-type reward system (nicotine and smoking, for example). Sugar also sets off a series of hormonal responses which definitely contribute to fat storage.

That still means you can stop or alter the intake of those calories. Genetics don't force you to chew and swallow in the end..

your gay hows that for a response potato

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quite uncommon

Julia Childs loved Costco Hot Dogs so u can go and fuck off

The real thread should be about how amazing it is that the price has been $1.50 for decades.

Of course. But a lot of people do not know this and even if they are aware of the fact, they do not have the means to determine what exactly they should be eating. This is why more education regarding nutrition is necessary and public health systems need to offer aid in determining proper nutrition.

In addition, if your environment favours a particular type of diet, it's difficult for someone to simply start following a different one. Peer pressure is a thing.

Kill all american citizens.

Arbeit
Macht
Frei

communism?

>Refined sugar.
Kek.

>Genetically? Nothing.
There you go.
>However it does bring on hormonal responses that equate to addiction. Sugar addiction is a very real thing, and denial of that is ludicrous.
Alcoholism is a very real thing, and denial of that is ludicrous... But not trying to get people to change their ways if they are alcoholics is even more ridiculous.
>People generally don't do things that are terrible for them unless there is some type of addiction-type reward system (nicotine and smoking, for example).
I'm a smoker, and I realise very well that it's bad for me.. I could probably stop if I really tried, but I don't actually want to. I could stop today, and not suffer any serious negative consequences.. As a matter of fact, it would most likely be an overall postive change for my health. The reason I don't stop smoking, is because I CHOOSE not to.. That is my own responsibility.
>Sugar also sets off a series of hormonal responses which definitely contribute to fat storage.

The stimulants and downers I consume on a daily basis have all kinds of proven and suspected effects in my psyche and physique and might very well fuck with my hormonal responses, never even mind my brain function and cannabinoid receptors. There isn't a soul on this board however, that would blame anyone but myself for those circumstances.


It baffles me that when it comes to the consumption of nutrients, other standards apparantly apply.

motherfucking CORN SUBSIDIES

get rid of the usa? boom you reduced the obese population by half

>Of course. But a lot of people do not know this and even if they are aware of the fact, they do not have the means to determine what exactly they should be eating. This is why more education regarding nutrition is necessary and public health systems need to offer aid in determining proper nutrition.

People know that eating too much and eating too little makes you a fat bastard. People know that coca cola, chocolate bars and chips are not staples of a proper diet.. They might deny it, or pretend they don't, but they know. I don't blame anyone for freely choosing to eat what they want, and live how they like.. But for fucks sake, at least recognise that it is free choice.

>In addition, if your environment favours a particular type of diet, it's difficult for someone to simply start following a different one.
They donĀ“t have stores where you live?
>Peer pressure is a thing.
So is personal responsibility.

>and eating too little
*excersizing

When you consume refined sugar, it sets off a series of hormonal responses that send it straight to fat cells. It also is the primary cause of metabolic syndrome overall. No one is denying your terrible life choices, however what I was arguing, and am still arguing, is that a calorie is not just a calorie. Sugar has a response in your body that is not the same as other foods you can eat.

Nah, just get rid of niggers and spics, they make up the bulk of our obese.

Low class people live shitty lifestyles of hedonism with zero fear of consequence.

>however what I was arguing, and am still arguing, is that a calorie is not just a calorie.

I don't know man.. A calorie is a calorie, it's just how you consume it that makes a difference. Sugar and fat are very nice and agreeable to the taste, and you actually get cravings for them. That's all true..

But what has the world gone to if apparantly people don't know or want to know that boiling a potato in water is probably a better idea health wise than slicing it and having it soak up a bunch of oil and salts for a few minutes?

There's a lot of bad choices to choose from these days in terms of food, but it isn't like all of the proper ones have been eliminated.

Fucking underrated

We should become socialist so that people starve

Did you even begin to watch the documentary I linked to you? If you don't believe me, you should at least consider the opinion of someone who studies nutritional science. Sugar effects your insulin and leptin responses, sometimes in permanent ways (diabetes). If your body is unable to properly process the calories coming in, it will treat them in different ways. When you get a massive influx of sugar, such as with coca cola, your body does not know how to handle it.

I am not alleviating the people of their bad dietary choices, but you also can't deny the fact that sugar plays a large part in obesity. Most people have no concept of what is actually healthy for them to eat. That is why you still see people eating low fat products, diet soda, and other bullshit things. However without a single doubt, sugar is the worst thing for your body, and the number one contributor to obesity world wide.

You don't, if people want to become fat and eat themselves to death that's their decision. We're not going to use the government to force people to eat well.

Costco hotdogs + Pizza are god-tier comfort food.

If you like maintaining your girlish figure by all mean stop eating good food.

all of those except 3 already happen, and still the problem persists. BMI is shit I agree, though I'm no sure chaning it would stop people eating.

Instead of tackling the problem as a 'food problem', we should tackle the reasons WHY people eat so much. If they do it for psychological reasons (depression, genuine self-hate) then treat that instead. For those few with a genuine medical condition, I genuinely sympathise.

If they do it for any non-medical reason then fuck them. They are good as dead anyway, treat them as such.

What about a 20oz coke? Does that make you a man?

>How do we stop the obesity epidemic?
with cigarettes