Just understood that leftist brains always make the wrong assumption that wealth is finite, and thus has to be "shared". I have the impression that if I am a successful entrepreneur, then I somehow "stole" the wealth of other people in a leftist mind.
It seems that they cannot understand that wealth is infinite and that you can always bring new products and new services to the society.
How can we simply explain them the truth? Do you have any meme explaining that wealth comes from freedom of entrepreneurship, small taxes and no regulation from the government? They need an education they didn't get due to boomers being degenerate.
Easton Sanders
Wealth is not infinite Money is a representation of (work, skill, energy, and resources) mixing together to create (goods, services, infrastructure).
You cannot just print money and do anything other than cause inflation. Instead you need to spend energy to gather resources, spend more energy to translate those resources into something people desire, and then get more money (also representing the above) for the work done, than you used to do the work in the first place.
This comes to a paradox: How can there possibly be a profit in such a scenario without taking anything from anyone? It's because your surplus money comes directly from the energy (sunlight, radioactive material in the ground), resources (land), and skill (genetics).
When you break it down, wealth comes from these three things: The Sun (Energy) The Land (Resources) The People (Genetics)
Congrats now you understand basic economics better than most business and economics majors.
Ryder Wood
>wealth is infinite Are you fucking retarded or something? Most people dont claim their wealth was stolen. What is being stolen is peoples labor. A type of wealth. The owners are cogs in the system that are there only for the sake of being there. They have no purpose. Imagine 1000's of cogs all turning and sustaining each other. The cogs that represent the owners(in our current society) are dead ends and parasites upon the 1000's of cogs doing the real labor. Trickle-down economics is a lie and you are a faggot. Also, you're retarded. I already said that, didn't I? You are double retarded.
Nathaniel Campbell
>When you break it down, wealth comes from these three things: >The Sun (Energy) >The Land (Resources) >The People (Genetics)
Wrong. Energy and resopurces won't generate wealth without any amount of work put into them (no matter how small or bit). When you boil it down to the absolute basics, it is generated from work alone - whether that work is directed towards a resource or knowledge is another question.
Therefore if we want the optimal amount of work get out from a given situation, we need to encourage all the participants to invest into the existing resources or technology/knowledge as much as possible, so that the most amount of wealth will be generated from those finite resources (obviously technology and circumstances factor in as well to a degree).
The problem comes when people look at the generated wealth, and think about how what would be the best way to distribute it so this well oiled machine works the best. On a theoreticaly level the best method would be complete redistribution of said wealth in a way that benefits the group in a way that each individual might not generate the most they could do, but overall on the big level more wealth is generated than in any other way.
Except reality is far from perfect, and human beings are more than robots that do what they are told. We are social creatures, sure, but have a fairly strong individualism (which varies from culture to fulture) so that personal incentive plays a big role on how much effort said person is willing to put into generating that wealth. Forced redistribution while might sound good in paper, completely kills personal incentive, lowering generated wealth per person that would be there with proper motivation and makes the whole system preform way worse than planned.
And that's why communists deserve to be put against the wall.
Levi Diaz
>The owners are cogs in the system that are there only for the sake of being there. They have no purpose. They own large amounts of capital that the average worker doesn't have, and leverage it on new, risky, ventures. (with various levels of 'risk').
When these ventures succeed, the capital owner gains a lot of profit. When these ventures fail, he loses everything.
The worker does not have to worry about losing everything. If he is fired, he simply move onwards to another job. He is insulated from failure where the capitalist is not. The trouble today isn't that capitalist owners exist. It's that we're protecting them from failure by taking money from the worker via taxes and bailing out the capitalist owners so they don't become destitute and poor.
I hope this helps you better understand our crony capitalist modern economy, user.
Andrew Scott
Based Hungarian.
Maybe if the generated wealth wasn't funneled into the pockets of the few via speculative bullshit, fraudulent currency and usury, we'd have a shot at a healthy economy.
Jaxon Reyes
>Wrong. Energy and resopurces won't generate wealth without any amount of work put into them (no matter how small or bit). If they didn't exist, you would not be able to make anything. There would be no profit. They have to exist for wealth to exist.
They are like a store of wealth that is released (to varying degrees of efficiency) by work.
It is a long convoluted chain. Wealth starts ~3 billion years ago with the first appearance of self-organizing life on this planet. The input of energy and the natural balance of resources in the environment by chance created self-replicating molecular chains. Over the next several billion years is a complex process of this self-organizing life using greater and greater shares of the energy and resources around them, translating the inputs into an output of more life.
You can have "infinite" wealth by having absurdly large amounts of energy and resources available to sufficiently small populations. But take the energy or the resources away and you are left with nothing.
Oliver Brooks
>But take the energy or the resources away and you are left with nothing.
I should rephrase to: >take the energy, resources, OR people away, and you are left with nothing.
It's a trifecta. You need all three for wealth to exist.
People can't exist with only energy or only resources, you are made of matter (resources) and assembling the resources requires energy (jumpstarted by natural physical effects ~3 billion years ago).
If people cannot exist, they cannot create or enjoy creation and there is still no wealth to be had.
Xavier Russell
You can't polish a turd though, why bother? Leftists tend to be the ugliest people in society, the failures at life, the single women who made some awful choices, the race mixers, the weak and emasculated. They all need the government like a newborn needs a tit. I don't know if they're worth the effort, and as they love abortion and tend to be unattractive, neurotic specimens they're not really breeding. Endangered species not worth saving.
Nathaniel Scott
Most rich people are entrepreneurs. Those who are stealing your wealth by printing funny money (this is stealing money) are central banks which are backed by governments. Another case where government fucks up everything.
Zachary Roberts
Except I never said that wealth is infinite. The misconception is rather whether or not generated wealth is directly proportional with the avaliable resources - if you have the knowledge you can make lots of wealth from little resources, but if you're a nigger you can make jack shit from the literal garden of eden.
And sure you need all three, but just by having all three is not enough for anything. Wealth is only generated if those three interact - and the quality of that interaction is a big part of the result.
Matthew Peterson
Classic Leaf.
You can give absurd amounts of energy, ressources and manpower to a handful of nigs and watch them bask in that "infinite" wealth for two days before they die of starvation. It's what you do with them that matters, not how much you have.
Energy, Ressources and Manpower all define how profitable a certain type of activity, aka a certain way of generating wealth, is. They aren't wealth in and out of themselves. Sunlight isn't wealth until it's converted into electricity, which is a particular, refined form of energy. Ore isn't wealth until it literally undergoes refinement. People don't amount to shit when you have no way of giving them productive tasks.
There's a reason why poos have a surplus of your trifecta and yet amount to nothing economically speaking.
>central banks which are backed by governments Although historically true, it is now reversed. France's central bank has been out of France's grasp since the De Gaulle era. And while it's true bankers are now mostly at fault, the government did let them rise into their current state. The solution is simple: neck all bankers/traders and everyone ideologically defending them and return to the gold standard.
Ethan Jenkins
That's why I say people (genetics) and explicitly mention skill.
I feel like you guys are only skimming what I've written and just finding fault in things we already agree on for lack of understanding my points or lack of actually reading them.
Dylan Collins
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Hudson Carter
The people own the earth and what it naturally produces.
John Perez
bitcoin is a decent example
Robert Robinson
Take two welfare leeches. If they stop doing nothing and start gives each other a service (one bakes some bread and the other weave a sweeter and exchange their production), they have been a creation of wealth "from nothing". It is in this way that I am saying that wealth is infinite. In this example I involved some physical resources, but it is not compulsory. You can look at education, advisory companies, law companies. It is generating wealth (in the sense that they provide services) without using any physical resource.
By the way, Europe is one of the wealthiest nation and it has no significant resources. At the end, everything comes to work and innovation.
Michael Smith
Where does that wool and wheat come from?
Liam Brown
>Skilled in bridge-building >No social organization whatsoever to employ his skills to good use
>Skilled in rocket science >Killed by the average Joe because there are no laws to protect people from violence
Society and its laws are a refinement of people/genetics/skill user, the same way you refine energy or ressources. Don't take them for granted: the better your laws, the more people you'll turn into productive members, and the more efficiently you'll do so.
Adrian Roberts
For having seen some traders, they are not the problem. You need traders in a functional economy. and there is no problem with private banks that take all liabilities for their bad investments (no bail-out, etc.). However, what has to be destroyed is the ability of the FED or the ECB to print fake money arbitrarily. It creates inflation when in a healthy capitalism economy, prices should go down.
Logan Kelly
Ok. A is giving a blowjob to B and B is teaching A how to read. No physical resources involved and there is still a creation of wealth.
Nolan White
>A BJ it's not wasting valuable resources.
Capitalists always spending more than what they have.
Charles Young
The problem stems from the fact that wealth must be generated from work, and work is done by people who are motivated to keep themselves alive. Right wing people have no problem accepting that people are different, and that they must employ their skills and work individually to benefit both themselves and as a collective. Leftists on the other hand, like to shift personal accountability, as well as responsibility, to the public, because it benefits people who don't want to work and pay taxes, and they don't realize that living in a sheltered society with indoor plumbing, roads, electricity, internet and a military protecting protecting you from external forces - without paying taxes or ever planning to work - is literally stealing from the hard earned money from the working class. So they vote on more welfare and safe spaces because of a combination of laziness and irresponsibility, and that's why you usually find the bottom feeders of society in their midst. Since leftists don't understand the origin of wealth, they don't understand the importance of work and work ethic. They speak of aiding your fellow man while leeching everyone around them. But these same safe spaces have prevented them from learning the truth.
Justin Nelson
I should've mentioned the term speculative when talking about traders. Trading in itself, its agents, as well as investments with shared risks are all healthy in general, on that i wholeheartedly agree.
It's when you get to buy/sell stuff without even acquiring it in the first place that shit begins to hit the fan. Just like when you begin to base your entire economy on printing fake shit to make up for the fake shit you printed last year as a pretext to justify (((the chosen people)))'s scheme of furthering the national debt.
David Rodriguez
The left are lazy as fuck and low on skills but they still want stuff so they try to get the state to give them shit stolen from the productive. This is not new, nor will it change
Jack Garcia
If you are talking about derivatives product, like I told you. If somebody wants to engage its money in highly speculative activity, it's his problem as he has the same chance of winning than losing a lot of money.
Where I might have some problems is more about commercial banks taking your deposit to trade it on markets without (i) notify it to you and (ii) rewarding the deposit owner with a share of the benefit.
When we are talking about banks, the big problem are really central banks. The problem is not coming from Goldman, BNP or Barclays. These commercial banks might collude with public figures and make some money, but it is mostly because we firstly gave to these public figures a power they should not have at the first place (printing money, setting arbitrary interest rates, etc.).
James Jenkins
>wealth is finite, and thus has to be "shared" ?? it does not follow
>I have the impression that if I am a successful entrepreneur, then I somehow "stole" the wealth of other people in a leftist mind. no. No leftist actually thinks that and I know few who actually say that.
Samuel Jackson
>wealth is infinite
Top kek
Owen Morris
Socialism should've remained something that only applies at an individual, or at best a community scale, and at the discretion of the people willing to do so, aka charity.
Lefties are simply born of a pernicious will to forcefully systematize it, thus denaturing it into something that goes against productivity in general, instead of being sporadic and thus an unreliable source of income.
You won't stop dumb fucks from losing their money in random schemes anyways. Agreed. For the educating part, that's where the struggles become real. A bunch of lazy people who basically lived at the apex of modern history won't let themselves get convinced their ideals are the pivot point where everything starts to crumble fast.
Jason King
The owners are the people that assembled the cogs into a functional machine, and the ones responsible for maintaining that machine.
Robert Carter
Our leftists say it and they are right about it.
Henry White
>personal incentive plays a big role on how much effort said person is willing to put into generating that wealth
This is summed up pretty well in Office Space. It's just like the "you pretend to pay me, I pretend to work" thing.
Oliver Ramirez
found the commie. Listen fool. Owners are reason enterprises exists.
Benjamin Evans
>THEY STOLE OUR WEALTH ITT retards don't know wealth comes from bitcoin.
Joseph Gomez
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Owen Baker
Do you have open positions? I´m only interested in teaching to read
Asher Foster
>>wealth is finite, and thus has to be "shared" >it does not follow If wealth is finite, the only way to give to one is to take from another If wealth is created, you can lift all boats at the same time
Josiah Wood
you're wrong that literally is what leftists do think
to them, the whole of wealth is a cake that can't grow or shrink, and that erryone must have an equal share of
Jaxon Long
This. Leftists don't understand the concept of generating wealth because they never were productive members of society in the first place.
Asher Morgan
>wealth is a cake that can't grow or shrink
No it cant grow infinitely you moron, give a example and I will tell you why you are wrong. Whats the problem with wanting equal distribution of earnings?
Evan Stewart
Viejo el es en realidad mas inteligente que la chucha y tiene un caracter de la puta madre.
Leftists don't think like that.
Joseph Martin
>No it cant grow infinitely yes it can, you fucking helicopter dodger
>I will tell you why you are wrong lol
>Whats the problem with wanting equal distribution of earnings? because worthless fucktards like you will then get as much as productive member of society like me ie equal distribution of wealth is unfair, you commie abomination.
Jaxson Davis
>Leftists don't think like that. technically, leftists don't think at all, granted but if they could somehow go beyond emotional impulses, sloshing in their own shit and chimpouts, just enough for all that to be translated into concepts and words, that indeed is how they'd think
James Cooper
>t. facho pobre
>yes it can Yeah dude you can create infinite stuff is not like you need materials that are finitie or something XD
>b-but muh services!
Services require man-hours, for being able to give that labor, the worker must live, to live it needs material goods (food, shelter,etc) and like those materials are limited, man-hours are limited too.
Carson Lewis
Why should I share my wealth with anybody who didn't deserve it without my consent?
Yo are too much of a coward to bring a gun and try to rob me directly. So you ask the government to do it instead of.
It can grow infinitely. This is what humanity has been doing for decades in every sector (energy, education, transportation, entertainment, telecommunication, IT).
These last decades, we have seem new cars and planes highly reliable and consuming almost nothing compared to previous decades. We have seen the shale oil and shale gas boom, we have seen the development of renewable energy, we have seen the rise of LNG. We have seen a complete revolution with Apple, Samsung and all the apps making us more productive and changing the way we entertain, etc. etc. It is only in your mind that wealth doesn't increase.
Tyler Stewart
Given the right amount of time, i can produce an indefinite amount of pic related. Checkmate faggot.
Jayden Richardson
Because people put in different work
Bentley Russell
The thing is that if you need a certain material (let's say crude oil). If there is a boom in demand, then price rise. When prices rise, private companies start spending billions of $ in exploration to find new crude oil reservoirs and other billions $ to develop these reservoirs and bring oil to the surface.
Why do we always have 50-60 years of oil supply for these last 20 years? It is just due that once known reserves are down, it makes sense for companies to research new ones.
By the way, even if a resource is finite, the human mind can always find substitute or a way to recycle stuffs. But I guess you never really worked and you have no idea of all the innovations industrial engineers do all the time.
Lucas Price
your kind sure is bound to remain on its degenerate cesspit actual Humans are to conquer a good chunk of an infinitely big universe
deal with it, shitskin
Dominic Harris
>It is just due that once known reserves are down, it makes sense for companies to research new ones also, as prices rise, it makes sense to exploit ones that once were too expensive to exploit eg merry shale gas
Owen Adams
>Yo are too much of a coward to bring a gun and try to rob me directly. So you ask the government to do it instead of.
Goverment allows you to do business, without it the mob will just rob you and put your head on a pike.
>It can grow infinitely. This is what humanity has been doing for decades in every sector
No, it has been growing, but not infinitely, exponential growth will not exist forever
>Dude matter is inifite what are physics laws!
Even if you convert the whole earth in honey you will run off materials someday.
Gabriel Gonzalez
It's not like if people in a free market don't find a way to solve these issues. It is under capitalism that everybody had a home. It was under capitalism that people had so much food that they die of eating too much.
You are talking about limited resources but there was never a problem in capitalist countries. In fact, I see supply problems in country like USSR or Venezuela or North Korea. Coincidence?
Ryder Gonzalez
Yea but that doesn’t mean we need to let the government interfere in the economy. The government is only there to protect life, liberty, and property.
Andrew Reed
You do realize that proves my initial point, right? What use would the earth's value be before being converted into honey, faggot? Would you rather value a metric fuckton of dirt over a metric fuckton of honey? That's called creating wealth, now stop embarrassing yourself.
Even insects can do it for God's sake.
Nicholas Bennett
Not everything that is created is physical. Mathematics, science, and knowledge are abstract objects.
Samuel Perez
The problem isn't that wealth isn't infinite (your technically right, as we are starting to affect our environment with the use of natural resources), but that redistribution of wealth naturally occurs through trade, and already occurs in an optimal fashion. Governmental interference with economic systems only disentivize organizers from creating the systems that produce wealth.
We also have to create excess wealth so that a product can turn from a luxury to a common good. If we didn't have factories making many more cars than we needed to actually have, I would bet everyone in this thread would not have a car today.
Oliver Sullivan
i thought about it like this - you own a small piece of property, maybe a tiny house is on the land. You are laid off of work. You then decide to grab a shovel and dig a garden, plant some grape vines, fruit trees, kiwis, etc. maybe you build a nice fence as well. After the cost of the plants and wood etc the value of your property has likely increased (as has your net worth) although no money has changed hands. Essentially you have paid yourself for your own labor
Carson Murphy
>the mob will just rob you and put your head on a pike >I'z be a savage, and iz makin' me proud
>exponential growth will not exist forever it actually has, for ever, literafuckingly of course brown savages like you wouldn't know, since you already barely rub sticks together
>Even if you convert the whole earth in honey you will run off materials someday >earth iz be da only thing in da universs', and sheeeit
Brody Morales
Economy isn't a magical experience where resources are created by this magical work environment.
It's a struggle a class struggle where an underclass will always get the short end of the stick, that's their main complain, to them people it's good enough but in a world where resources are already distributed they have no real choice in the matter.
Like our particular problem where our wealth got shipped to europe without us having a say in the matter.
Tyler Gutierrez
I am allowed to do business because God gave me inalienable rights. Not because the government or the local mob "allows" me to do it you little piss of shit.
Wealth has been always growing as humanity has always been improving stuffs. Even if everybody has enough food, a home, education, etc. You will always find something to improve or to do. This is wealth. So it is infinite.
>Even if you convert the whole earth in honey you will run off materials someday.
Capitalism is bad because you cannot convert the whole universe into honey. And you wonder why we believe leftists are brain dead.
Samuel Barnes
Yes lets consume like there's no tomorrow and pray to our science god to help us before everything goes to shit.
>no one had a home before capitalism
You can say whateever of NK, but their people do have a home.
>You are talking about limited resources but there was never a problem in capitalist countries.
Its a problem for the future
>he believes in free market
Oh bluepilled you, free market had never existed, financial groups have enough power to manipulate the worlds economy, just look at the data ffs.
Jacob Smith
The free market is truly magical. Every time people trade with one another, wealth is created. Multiply this by trillions and trillions and you have the massive growth we’ve enjoyed for hundreds of years.
Samuel Russell
you get the short hand of the stick because you're weak, dimwitted, unlucky, lazy, etc (also explain why you end up a commie) not because the strong, clever, lucky, hardworking, etc, ones want to bugger you we don't care about you (as long as you know your place, which indeed is down low, and for a fucking reason)
Hunter Hall
It’s true that the central banks can manipulate economies. They’re not complete retards though, they know that capitalism is still the best.
Jack Perry
>Yes lets consume like there's no tomorrow and pray to our science god to help us before everything goes to shit. malthusian prophecy #156168461486519845168 and yep, still a load of niggering horse shit, like all previous ones
Benjamin Moore
That's not what happens same with the trash created by this same system, it's just shipped somewhere else.
I'm sorry but hard working people it's on the low side of society, but even tough they can't reach ultimate wealth they still can use all of your public spaces.
Leo Sullivan
croonyism only exists because the state enforces it ie because the state puts its filthy fingers in the economy ie because of state capitalism ie because of socialism qed.
Gavin Sanders
It's awesome but resources is what is useful to humanity. Each time you need something in a free market, if the price is high enough, many people will start using their brain to provide you what you need. This is perhaps why there were no major shortage in Western economies?
Chase Morales
You could jerk off to more Rand fiction novels I guess, that always convinces people. Don't try to play with math anymore though, you're not smart
Julian Garcia
>Using their brain to provide you.
Most of the time it's just guns.
Matthew King
It still isn't infinite
The universe may be "infinite" but the parts we can reach are not.
You would be a disaster to have in charge of long-term economic planning. No matter how abundant resources are today, there is eventually a point where they're used up. Our sun will last another 1-2 billion years - if we don't get a white dwarf to live around for the next 40 billion after that, we'll have to fuck off to another star or we'll die.
And we only have about a trillion years before all the stars die and we're forced to fuck off over to black holes for whatever pittance of energy they spit out.
And then after an amount of time that's so great I can't even describe it properly, those blackholes finally explode in tremendous bursts of energy, and then the universe is filled with nothing but stray energetic particles and cold dead matter.
And while that is a long long time away, that still isn't infinity. That is nothing compared to infinity. It is the blink of an eye compared to infinity.
You shouldn't use infinity so casually. Tremendous abundance is possible, but infinite is not.
They are, but the vary nature of that abstraction requires processing and calculating, and that requires energy and resources. You can hold the concepts in your mental software/wetware, but cut off the blood supply and watch what happens to those abstract ideas. These things are metaphysical, and 'exist' without physically existing, but in order to make use of them, you do need to actually exist in the first place.
Gabriel Davis
>I have rights because I say so Delusional faggots dont understand that without goverment they wouldnt have any wealth without being robbed.
>it never happened so it never will!
Flawless logic, technology cant save our ass forever
>redistribution of wealth naturally occurs through trade >still believing the trickle down meme
Do you know you live in a country where the 1% owns most of the wealth right? Tell me how trade would naturally distribute that
Ian Gray
I usually point out that money is NOT wealth, it is a communally recognized debt society "owes" you. Real wealth is comfort, liesure, opportunity and education (and we should note, "power").
Explain that you average American welfare recipient lives a life with those qualities in such excess that it puts kings of old to shame, with the exception of power. Only a total sociopath would prefer to be a king 500 years ago to being a welfare recipient today; you sacrifice so much true wealth (comfort, liesure, opportunity and education) and get only power and baubles in exchange. You sacrifice having a near totality of human knowledge in your pocket, fresh foods from around the world, climate controlled domiciles, rapid comfortable travel, reliable medicine, good hygiene, and so much more.
This is why trickle down economics works, you have all these things you take for granted when you could be a filthy peasant living in a mud hut eating bugs.
Juan Flores
You are talking like a nigger. Please go back to your mudhouse if you feel bad about enjoying life and consuming. People like you talk constantly about saving resources while shitting in the street like apes. You don't even try to give an example you fucking piss of shit. Which problem do you see in the future? Give a concrete example.
The day a resource is scarce, prices will rise, people will find a way to find new resources, exploit new ones, recycle or find a substitute. That is what free markets do fucking lazy monkey.
I don't even know your flag. But I don't even know why you still believe in other system than liberty. Do you like to be a slave? Look at the US, Western Europe, South Korea (a small country with no resource), Japan and compare it to Venezuela, Russia, Algeria, North Korea. Even Singapore, a fucking ISLAND is wealthier than your whole country.
Jackson Taylor
>but that redistribution of wealth naturally occurs through trade, and already occurs in an optimal fashion. Governmental interference
1. No it does not occur in an optimal fashion (what the fuck do you think arbitrage is - if trade were optimal it wouldn't even exist) 2. Corporations are as much guilty of interference in the free market as any government is
Do you really think a corporation is incapable of increasing barriers to entry into a market without any government involvement? Do you think a sufficiently powerful corporation is somehow distinguishable from a governmental entity itself?
Have you ever heard the term, Banana Republic?
Come the fuck on man. Stop listen-and-believing anarcho-capitalist talking points and start actually thinking for yourself.
Isaac Ward
>Conveniently not replying to >Literally worse than an insect Geez dude, c'mon. Go learn from ants before posting on Sup Forums.
>Tremendous abundance is possible, but infinite is not. I'm not debating whether ressources are actually infinite or not. I'm debating whether wealth can be generated up to such a tremendous abundance the idea of exhausting your wealth would actually begin to become something entirely alien. Of course it isn't infinite, user.
Wyatt Walker
Theres allways more gold being made in the heart of earth. You live on a gold creation device.
Grayson Brown
>hard working people it's on the low side of society lol there's a reason no one pays you much it's because anyone could do what you do you think you're doing hard work well, for you, maybe (which is the actual problem) doesn't make it inherently hard
take someone who worked to gain very valuable skills such skills being valuable because they're rare, ie hard to gain, and also generate lots of wealth you can put all your sweat and blood into playing with your own shit, if no one is interested in that not too rare "special" skill of yours, and you failed to gain one that interests people a lot, de facto, they did a harder work than you did
want it or not, it won't change shit anyway you put it, you're sloshing in your own shit for one essential reason because you fail at life simple as that
let's agree on that the government is what prevents an all out war between actual Humans and scum class animals which is a sad thing, desu because you wouldn't win
Brody Diaz
>The day a resource is scarce, prices will rise
So here is the small print of your beautiful free market.
If resources are scarce, prices would rise and poorfags would just die, damn what a great system.
You still not prove how you would create infinite wealth. you cant make inifnite honey.
Dylan Price
>parasitic scum class is culled >this is somehow bad
Juan Hernandez
>Creating wealth.
Wealth is there already what you are doing it's modification of wealth to serve your purposes, maybe we liked our dirt and that dirt could prove to be more helpful in the future, but we will never know cause you eat it and turned into crap already.
I said this already going to the university, focusing on your career and everything that's considered a "successful life" under capitalism will never compare to a brown person working since he is 15 and pumping kids once a year.
By the time you are having your first kid, the browns already used your taxes, your schools and your parks to smoke pot.
Dylan Williams
Have you seen what these 1% provided to humanity? A guy like Bill Gates provided a cheap OS to be used in all modern computers increasing the productivity of the whole humanity. A guy like Jeff Bezos provide you any kind of products at the cheapest price possible in less than 24-hour in almost all OECD countries. And you complain he's making billions? If these guys made billions, it is because they solve a problem for many millions / billions of people which agreed to pay the price of his service / products. When you buy Windows for $100, Bill Gates probably earns $30 but you are able to generate much more wealth than $100.
At the end, just look what your "elite"has done. Nothing, they have done nothing remarquable. But for some reason you seem to be happier with your system.
Sebastian Morales
You don't need to create infinite amounts of wealth, you need to create such tremendous amounts of it to BTFO the very possibility of exhausting your created wealth in your lifetime, which is entirely possible. That's when you know you produce (much) more wealth than you actually consume as a human.
It's an example of how you can turn something undesirable (dirt) into wealth (honey). Get a clue.
Adam Russell
>you cant make inifnite honey as he said, given an infinite amount of time and space, yes, actual Humans actually can you fucking commies for ones couldn't, granted, as proven times and times again
Liam King
The underclass gets the short end of the stick because they are genuinely full of incompetents.
Go and take a look at the homeless in your area. I will freely admit some of them are downtrodden people who have hit hard times, but the vast, vast, majority? They're drug users or their mind is degenerated and they're walking/talking nutcases. Those just above the homeless are the poor who spend frivolously (LOL ARE YOU A POORFAG?? types), make no investment for the future, and demand handouts rather than working a job.
You cannot get rid of the class system because it's a natural consequence of genetic bell curves.
And don't get me wrong - this isn't meant as an apology for the blatant parasitization by a lot of the extremely wealthy on the majority, nor policies that benefit rich over poor, and so forth. It's just that the idea that poor people are incapable and rich people are capable rings true. It remains true so long as you continue to have a middle class with large social mobility between the very rich and the very poor.
For that matter, attractive people also tend to be more intelligent than uggos.
Robert Campbell
>going to the university, focusing on your career and everything that's considered a "successful life" under capitalism will never compare to a brown person working since he is 15 and pumping kids once a year indeed the first case is a harder work, as proven by the fact that it's rarer and more valued
Joshua Bennett
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Justin Baker
>If resources are scarce, prices would rise and poorfags would just die, damn what a great system. It happens. We can either plan for it by not living frivolously and wasting resources, or we can just go nuts and let it bite us in the ass when it happens.
This is one of the things that makes whites stand out compared to the other races. Planning for the future and sustainably using your resources is the secret to long-term success. I think the west has forgotten this lesson, and it is bringing disaster on us.
Isaiah Mitchell
I told you already, at some point not so long ago our native forests got destroyed to make room for pine forests.
This was wealth no doubt about it, but now our native wood cost ten times more, meaning that that created wealth was less wealth overall.
And before you mention it, the native wood it's a better material objectively.
Carson Long
Good now you show your true colors :^) dont pretend your system is moral then
Bill Gates the guy who stole Xerox intellectual property,created a monopoly of it and forces to pay for something that its ridiculous to pay like an OS? its like paying for a driver
>you can create infinite wealth with my lovely capitalism >a-actually you cant but it doesnt matter
Keep moving the goal post
Eli Jackson
Privatization of healthcare isn't a problem, but americans don't have a privatized free market healthcare system. There's too much politics stemming from too much corporate interference in the free market.
Something ancaps and libertarians aren't willing to admit, let alone talk about.
Luke Jackson
As long as human have desires, other will try to satisfy it for money. This is wealth generation. As human desires are infinite, wealth growth has no limit. I think I can't make it more simple.
Ryan Stewart
it is moral you being hopeless failures, and a dead weight on Mankind, is why you do deserve to be culled it'd also be merciful, at that
>da evilz Whit' man took da rosewood and burned it because he wuz cold nope exotic woods objects we did craft (while you still couldn't even rub together the raw material) still exist, and being worth a lot, still continue to create wealth
Hunter Morales
Not really forests got burned because that's where the indians where hiding, but the land was more valuable to you at the time, when in reality you didn't get that much from here cause the gold (only shit that they really cared) was on the north.
Justin Garcia
Sure, it's as easy as socializing everything and prices magically go down!
Bentley Lopez
we still did more with the land than you ever did
Andrew Powell
Native wood is indeed top tier, no denying that. If anything it just proves wealth is a fundamentally human concept, as the value of things may or may not be apparent to some people at a given time.
Let me give you another example >You, user, decide to set up a business selling cum. >You devote countless amounts of hours sucking cock and gathering sperm >Even if the universe will come to an end, if it didn't, you'd generate an infinite amount of cum by all that dick sucking. >Yet you nitpick about the universe coming to an end, and thus refuse to do what you're visibly best at. I still fail to understand why you don't significantly increase the amount of dicks you suck.
Andrew Young
I think it's a consequence of our magic shekels that infinitely shoot from out a jew's ass.
With real money every gram of gold requires REAL energy, and REAL effort. It doesn't matter if there are 2 grams of gold or 2,000 grams of gold. The value is the same. But with magic shekels if the government makes 10x more money then the price of everything goes up by 10x. In a very real sense there is a FIXED level of money. Conservatives accept this as well. If you have a million dollars and the minimum wage is $10 then you get 100k hours of work from others but if it is $20 you only get 50k hours of work. By giving those on the bottom more you lose and they win. But paying them less you win and they lose.
Magic jew shekels are literally debt money, that is to say ANTI-money. ANTI-money like anti-matter does not behave in a logical (or truly productive) manner, but it sure is useful for stealing productivity from people.
Nolan Sanders
>unironically saying the browns
You are the worst kind of middle class chilean
To satisfy those "infinite desires" you need resources, which are limited.
The "hopless failures" are the ones who do the actual work, not like those at the top pretending to do it and getting high spots for their contacts. The world would be much better without them
Julian Harris
Again not really, we exported manure until we got rid of the spanish.