I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Cultural Marxism is, in fact, Cultural Deleuzianism-Guattarianism, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Deleuzianism AND Guattarianism. Idpol is not a political philosophy unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning philosophical non-system made useful by the Guattari's schizoanalysis, rhizomes and vital deterritorializing components comprising a full philosophy as defined in 'What Is Philosophy?"
Many left identitarians use a modified version of Deleuzianism every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Deleuzianism which is widely used today is often called 'Cultural Marxism' and credit is given to the Frankfurt School, but many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Deleuzian non-system of difference, developed by the Liberal identitarians.
There really is a 'Cultural Marxism', developed by Adorno, Marcuse, and Walter Benjamin, but these people aren't using it; it isn't a part of the system they use. Deleuze is the philosophy: the difference in the plateaus that allocates the machinic desires against the oppressive totalities and identities that you know. Deleuze is an essential part of Guanttarianist identitarianism, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete liberal college campus. Deleuze is normally used against Frankfurters: Cultural Marxism is actually the whole system of Deleuze and Guattari with the name of Marx added. All the so-called Cultural Marxists are really Cultural Deleuzeans! youtube.com/watch?v=v3-dz9zYScM
Explain the thought of the Franks in your own words.
Carson Turner
>Nice pasta. Well, I figured I'd post the truth. If you don't like that people have factual evidence to back up their claims that prove you wrong, that's on you.
>Explain the thought of the Franks in your own words. The Frankfurt School was Jewish and the promoters of cultural marxism.
Who is behind virtually everything bad happening to the White race and White countries? The Jews of course. This is verifiable.
Jordan Nelson
>Care to explain. Who is behind Communism/Marxism? Jews.
Who is behind mass non-White immigration into White countries? Jews.
Who is behind the promotion/normalization of homosexuality? Jews
Who is behind feminism? Jews.
Who is behind pornography? Jews
Who controls the anti-White/sexualized/violent media? Jews.
Who is behind diversity/multiculturalism? Jews.
Who is behind the destabilization of the middle east? Jews.
Who has the most influence in government? Jews.
Who is behind White genocide? Jews.
Benjamin Sullivan
>The Frankfurt School was Jewish and the promoters of cultural marxism. So explain IN DETAIL what the two have to do with each other. What was the role of Jewishness in Critical Theory?
I know the answer and it's not what you think.
Matthew Robinson
>So explain IN DETAIL what the two have to do with each other. I already have, I've posted the evidence that you dismissed out of hand because "itz pastuh!"
> What was the role of Jewishness in Critical Theory? Again, Jews are behind the Frankfurt school and Jews are behind Cultural Marxism.
>I know the answer and it's not what you think. You think you know the answer and you don't want to link it to Jews or what is being done to the White race because you don't care about the White race.
That's the truth isn't it?
You don't think Whites should be involved in identity politics and you don't think anyone should be naming the Jew let alone noticing the cohencidences, huh?
Samuel Rodriguez
>What was the role of Jewishness in Critical Theory? >What does an ethnic/religious group based on debating and destroying all outsiders have to do with a bunch of Jews coming to the US and trying to subvert the established system? It's always the same thing when someone tries to 'debunk' Cultural Marxism; You guys always want every single little detail explained and evidence provided because you can't seem to see what's right in front of your face.
Joshua Robinson
Yes the Frankfurt school is a wasp German concept and the Italian mob was really Italians same with the Russian mob oh and wallstreet is also ran by wasps.
Lucas Campbell
>Yes the Frankfurt school is a wasp German concept and the Italian mob was really Italians same with the Russian mob oh and wallstreet is also ran by wasps. Yeah...it's totally not the Jews. And you're an anti-semite if you believe that it is.
Ethan Perry
>I already have, I've posted the evidence that you dismissed out of hand because "itz pastuh!" You didn't summarize any of the information in the links you pasted.
>Again, Jews are behind the Frankfurt school and Jews are behind Cultural Marxism. So what?
Lucas Cooper
How dare you spoil my rms copypasta
Matthew Peterson
>You think you know the answer and you don't want to link it to Jews or what is being done to the White race because you don't care about the White race. I'm saying I can tell you where the "Jewish" elements of Critical Theory lie. Of course, you'd never understand it. youtube.com/watch?v=CYl845GORmM
Blake Morris
Sup Forums can't give a single explanation of why the Frankfurt School's Jewish character is behind modern identity politics, which gives every reason to think Sup Forums has no idea as to what it's talking about.
Alexander Baker
Protip: Deleuze is your enemy, not Adorno.
Anthony Brooks
>You didn't summarize any of the information in the links you pasted. you have to take the redpill for yourself.
>So what? Thus proving that Jews are attempting to destroy White civilization, White countries and the White race via cultural marxism.
>I'm saying I can tell you where the "Jewish" elements of Critical Theory lie. Of course, you'd never understand it. So the Jews aren't behind mass immigration, feminism, promotion of homosexuality, control of the media, control of the government, porn, the media, diversity and multiculturalism?
Luke Hall
FYI this faggot leaf comes and makes this thread every few weeks
Colton Gutierrez
>you have to take the redpill for yourself. That's a pretty vague statement.
>Thus proving that Jews are attempting to destroy White civilization, White countries and the White race via cultural marxism. No. I said "so what" as an indicator that being Jewish is irrelevant here.
Hudson Ward
Adorno literally helped devise a personality test to measure how authoritarian people were. What exactly are you supposed to make out of that? What is their interest in telling Americans how to think and act as German kikes? How did they magically make their way into American universities so easily? Fucking neck yourself you lying rat.
Jack Sullivan
>The Jews aren't your enemy! Stop caring about your race!
>No. I said "so what" as an indicator that being Jewish is irrelevant here. Of course you claim that. You don't want people connecting the dots and you certainly don't want people placing the blame where it deserves to be placed.
Nor do you want Whites caring about their survival of their race.
Elijah Harris
Adorno had very little to do with The Authoritarian Personality, and the book is a very poor showing of his thought in general.
Dylan Nelson
Connect the dots for me.
What triggers Jews to hate whites, according to you?
Daniel Ross
Oh, now I remember you.
This is waste of time and energy for anyone trying. You won't make any progress here. No amount of historical data or argumentation gets through to this thing.
Good luck.
Xavier Butler
And you haven't debunked anything I've said.
Jonathan Flores
And no one cares about your shit thread.
/sage
Dylan Hill
Why not? Because you can't provide any evidence?
Joshua Foster
> It's not word salad A. It's word salads B and C mixed. It's a totally different word salad that doesn't destroy culture, get educated faggots
Shill thread. It's a distinctly Jewish and subversive ideology created for the slow erosion of white culture.
Jacob Davis
We need a smuggy meme with this:
> Yeah so I learned some word salad that's entirely tautological, but I use words like 'praxis' and 'critical' so checkmate stemlord, don't you wish you learned a real degree
Andrew Richardson
What's wrong with Critical Theory?
Kevin Young
> In sociology and political philosophy, the term Critical Theory describes the neo-Marxist philosophy of the Frankfurt School - Wikipedia
sage.
It's a tautological word salad entirely disconnected from the notion of truth. It is a social weapon developed by a bunch of insane European Jews who hated European culture.
If you don't know this, you have been miseducated and are a brainlet.
Jeremiah Allen
Franks didn't hate European culture. You'd know that if you bothered to read their works.
Eli Torres
He's stuck in philosophy soy boy mode where he thinks the autistic tautological ramblings of some dickheads in the 1930s are worth dissecting to this level.
He can't see the forest. Kind of guy who unironically uses the word stem lord while being a brainlet who can't into math or science.
Isaac Howard
Not all leafs. OP is a shill though
Dylan Murphy
Cultural marxism is another word for non whites (and other assorted minorities) vs whites and their values. Definitions aren't static, the left proves this by redefining Nazi and racist all the time
Aiden Garcia
You are obfuscating and/or a shill.
> The original aim of critical theory was to analyze the true significance of "the ruling understandings" generated in bourgeois society, in order to show how they misrepresented actual human interaction in the real world, and in so doing functioned to justify or legitimize the domination of people by capitalism.
- Wikipedia
In short, these ethnically Jewish Europeans needed to revamp their horseshit for Western Europe because everyone saw what happened with the Jews and Bolshevism in Russia.
Putting aside your pathetic dissembling about terms, you realize that you are just outright lying? Do you realize this? You realize no one values or believes what you say because it simply isn't true, right?
It's turtles all the way down once you accept this nonsense. No one can call you on it because you just hamster away any criticism as imposition of the bourgeois or some other horseshit.
Asher Diaz
The Frankfurt School were great thinkers and intellectuals. If you're looking for anyone to blame for tumblr, blame Deleuze, Foucault, and Derrida.
Alexander Kelly
>Frankfurt School >group of three people one of whom is Jewish
is there a qualitative difference between the two for /pol?
Hunter Carter
here we go again
William Reed
Marcuse has nothing to do with idpol. He's a scapegoat.
Adam James
don't shit up our ability to talk with your marxist redefining of words.
We all know what we mean when we say cultural marxism.... We all get the concept. You're interfering; not helping.
John Sullivan
let's deconstruct western civilization, western civilization was a mistake. oooo vay. u have to be intolerant of intolerant views (which are only right wing views, never left wing ones), ooo vay
Ryder Perez
Deconstruction doesn't come from the Franks.
Isaac Davis
Everyone note that the bot just glitched. It's talking about Tumblr now.
sage
Christian Taylor
fuck you alt-left faggot kike
Isaac Thomas
By "tumblr" I mean identity politics.
Gabriel Taylor
'Repressive Tolerance' is literally a blue-print for the antifa personality. he argues that the ideal of democracy (and here we go again treating democracy as some unquestionable, utopic end) can only be achieved by being undemocratic and intolerant of what the left deems to be intolerant on the right.
Noah Martinez
Guys, I think I broke the soy-bot by asking it rhetorical questions.
Levi Collins
>Adorno is not your enemy Yeah, totally not a shill thread.
„Möchten die Horst Güntherchen in ihrem Blut sich wälzen und die Inges den polnischen Bordellen überwiesen werden, mit Vorzugsscheinen für die Juden“, schrieb Theodor W. Adorno kurz vor der Niederlage NS-Deutschlands aus Kalifornien an seine Eltern in New York. Er freute sich, nun endlich sei „alles eingetreten, was man sich jahrelang gewünscht hat, das Land vermüllt, Millionen von Hansjürgens und Utes tot, wahrscheinlich dem Volk das Genick gebrochen, sodass es als Subjekt aus der Geschichte ausscheidet“. >"May the Horst Günterchens role in their own blood and the Inges be passed to the Polish brothels, with passes of privilege for the Jews.", wrote Theodor W. Adorno shortly before the defeat of NS-Germany from California to his parents in New York. He rejoiced, finally everything was "trampled down, what one had wished for years, the country dumped with litter, millions of Hansjürgens and Utes dead, the neck of the people probably broken, so that history may excrete it is a subject."
The man and his school who thought about nothing else how to bring down the institutions and structures of the west to make the communist revolution possible are not your enemies, goy.
Charles Bell
Read marcuse. This is a shill thread. Cultural marxism is real. A fucking leaf etc
James Allen
adorno argued that the west was a mistake, he used 'negative dialectics' to undo it. i'm sorry, because 'negative dialectics' is what the jews use to exploit hegel, and 'deconstruction' to exploit heidegger
Logan Walker
A FUCKING LEAF
Asher Morales
Yes, Adorno was anti-fascist. He was literally a Jewish refugee from Nazi Germany.
Luke Parker
bleep blorp
People are a victim of what they know. Once you know how sinister and murderous the ideology and its intent are, it's not possible to listen to your nonsense.
You are defending people who suborned murder. We know. We KNOW. Just stop.
Jordan Phillips
Explain what "negative dialectics" are in your words. You claim Jews use "dialectics" to exploit, so what are they?
I know. I'm asking you to see if you know too.
Nicholas Powell
identity politics is one of many problems stemming from a degraded western tradition. there are a hundred other leftist bullshit philosophies that need to be cut out of the west, including critical theory, which has completely diverted classical liberalism, to the point that the harvard ethics chair, a negress, now talks about how problematic the right to marry is. critical theory is literally the reason for positive discrimination in liberal, republican western societies
Jonathan Morgan
He was the THE communist subversive Jew of the 20th century.
And calling for the sadistic erradication of the German nation and people as the defintion of anti-fascism. I didn't think I could POSSIBLY HATE you more than I already do, but congratulations: you just made that possible.
Ryder Morgan
Jew Jew Jew Op is a Jew Open your borders and fuck niggers goyim
Christian Sullivan
I can tell you what my dialectics are: kill people like you and kill and kill and kill, until there are none like you left.
Hudson Butler
May you and your foul soul rot in hell forever. May you die a horrible and painful death, you piece of human garbage
Jack Thompson
So what's the relation between your diatribe and dialectics?
Jack Walker
It selectively responds to this stuff. He's either a > bad shill > autistic lefty philosophy soy boy > a bot
Alexander Evans
let's start with derrida
(((Derrida))) is even worse than Jordan Peterson presents him. Derrida raises 'difference' to the level of the ontological. He says that 'difference' is Being, that it is the essence of existence. To get an idea of this, he even claims that the word 'difference' itself cannot be defined objectively or linguistically. Thus, 'difference' by necessity pervades everything, and should be sought for in everything, and never questioned or fundamentally judged. Ethically speaking, and Derrida argues this, ontological 'difference' means that it is the 'other's' complete 'otherness' that connects us to him. Hence, ethical relations are not built on common grounds, but on 'difference'. In sum, Derrida tyrannizes the world with a madness for 'difference' that can never be questioned rationally. He also adds that logic inherently favors white, christian, hetero men, and that the logic of difference opposes this directly. u see the trick, and why difference today = anti-white christian male
Nicholas Young
> Cultural Deleuzianism-Guattarianism, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Deleuzianism AND Guattarianism.
Lol imagine wasting years of your life studying this stupid shit
Ryan Rodriguez
Derrida had nothing to do with the Frankfurt School.
Adrian Clark
Their "dialectic" was dishonest nonsense used as a screen so that they could murder Orthodox Slavs and Germans. That's his point. It's disgusting.
It's a bot guys.
Caleb Edwards
Aside from all the murder it caused in the 20th century, the fact that it still causes the death of millions of young minds with this pablum is also rather sad desu
Isaiah James
I linked a video in my OP of a discussion on Deleuze. You might like it.
Landon Clark
Reminder that this poster is an amusing if ineffectual leftypol Jew who visits Sup Forums every so often to make this thread.
He will offer no explanation as to why the LEFT is constantly shilling for mass immigration and the destruction of Western society, but will do the Tel Aviv Tango as he evades and dodges all refutation and argument.
If you manage to pin this bad-faith foreskin-chomper down, he will flee the threat and show up a couple months later as if nothing has happened, just like it’s described in Mein Kampf.
Shalom!
William Brooks
The left "shills" for open borders only because we believe in working class internationalism, not because we want to see western culture go belly-up.
Eli Gutierrez
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Hunter Sullivan
Gay pasta, senpai. Try coming at me again once you've realized a body without organs.
Carson Cruz
his negative dialectics is an attempt to destroy any sort of western idealism, or theory that would base itself on absolute duty or law, such as in Hegel's Ethical Life or in Kant's Categorical Imperative, and replace it with the odious materialism of the enlightenment, which conceived of man on the most epistemologically impoverished grounds imaginable, and cut God out of all debates on how to order society, precipitating secularism. This also basically destroys the ideas or any metaphysical higher goals, which are necessary for guiding a society without everything reducing to individualism, contracualism, the reduction of life goals to animal desires, etc. Hence why the modern narrative is to demand 'rights' ad infinitum based on some secretly metaphysical notion of 'humanity as such', and to denounce everyone who talks about responsibility as a fascist.
Camden Thompson
I see what you did there...
Colton Sullivan
the nuanced truth is too complicated to persuade the vulgar masses. so a few legitimate thinkers' historical reputations will be destroyed; the ends justify the means.
I think it is expected that the propaganda would deviate significantly from the truth. Propaganda demands simplicity, while truth is always complex. Please note my use of the word propoganda does not imply truthfulness or falseness.
labor mobility? what kind of leftist are you claiming to be?
Jonathan Phillips
i know, but i wanted to write that for pol. im well aware that derrida uses heiddeger and that other jew levinas, and works within the framework phenomenology. but what he does is similar, that is, he destroys western logic
Jordan Ramirez
Adorno was heavily critical of Heidegger...
Isaiah Young
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Parker Cruz
first of all, respond to my post about negative dialectics and dialectics of enlightenment second, i did not say that derrida does not exploit heidegger. i love heiddeger personally. what derrida presents is a bastard version for his jewy hatred of the west.
