I want to get married and have a bunch of kids but divorce terrifies me. Separation rates are as high as they have ever been and I myself grew up without a dad.
Is no fault divorce the cause of so many divorces nowadays? If not then what is? How can we fix this?
Divorce is better than being raised by a parent who is openly cheating and destroying your family while still being allowed to live in your home.
>never marry
>get rich
>hire surrogate mother
>raise kids yourself with help from hired nannies
>send kids to conservative private school
>find a 20yo gf and enjoy life
I agree with that. Not saying we shouldn’t have divorce but people break up for bullshit reasons nowadays. “I didn’t feel fulfilled” or “I wasn’t loved as much as I should have” etc.
Women who sign up for surrogacy are usually nigger tier white trash. Don’t want those genes running in my kids. It’s easy money to sell your body. Surrogacy is “nicer” than prostitution however.
>How can we fix this?
find an employer who will donate to a fund set up for your children instead of paying you a salary, the fund is managed so that all expenses must be approved
Fear of Missing Out is a serious problem within our society. A lot of people are afraid that they're not doing enough, or not getting as good as they can get and it makes them miserable. Social media just adds to this.
>Don’t want those genes running in my kids.
the surrogate just holds the pre fertilized egg, they don't contribute any DNA
Slush funds like that aren’t touched in a divorce case?
Where do you get the egg then?
That's my plan without joking
>Separation rates are as high as they have ever been
na that's wrong. first time, first time divorce rates are only around 30% and it has gone down not up.
We have a similar thing to sperm banks so we can get to choose the woman and have a genetic profiling with it. I want a Scandinavian one. Women will pay their college and university this way instead of being BLACKED for porn money
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That’s somewhat true. I’ll concede that. However divorce has gone down because less people are getting married in the first place. Either way the issue remains. Strong marriages are less common now than ever.
truer words have rarely been spoken, brother. Advertisers also play to fear and jealousy bigly to peddle almost any product you can imagine.
You can get the eggs from any woman, so a friend, collogue or you go to an egg bank donoreggbankusa.com
yes they are less common because dumb liberal roasties are open about it now. consider yourself lucky to live in a time when slut are open about it and not living a secret life, the odd of divorce when marrying a conservative white woman are probably less than 10%
Find someone that comes from a traditional background, that's how you know a girl is going to be submissive and caring for her man, which is going to be you. Then you go ask her parents for her hand in marriage when she hits 18 or something. Make sure you can prove you'll be able to provide for her (bonus points if you can also provide for her family).
Then you live a happy, fulfilling life.
That’s good advice. I don’t know how that would work out considering children are getting specialized younger and younger and I’ve planned to be chaste until marriage but I can see something like that being possible if I get desperate enough.
And this would be the case for like 10% of all marriages were the fucking fault divorce would apply. So you have no argument idiot. What you should have said is "bored" or "sexless".
marriage is for cucks
just fuck sluts and make money
Do not do it. There is no other advice. If you ever displease your wife, she can steal your kids, make them hate you, and drive you to the poorhouse. And there is NOTHING you can do about it. The moment some bitch is knocked up, your life belongs to here. This is called male privilege.
The cause of divorce is that kids automatically go with the mother on every divorce. This has not always been that way.
Kids used to belong to the man, he paid for them and could support them going forward. Almost no divorce happened. Then social marxism crept in and "for the good of the children" destroyed the family unit.
Most women are math retarded, but even they can figure out math as simple as the one used in divorce. You keep the house, the car, get alimony and child support, no downsides.
Do prenups work?
You don't need to be desperate, user. It's the right way to do things. Get to searching, you're a rare and desirable person in this market, whether you're conscious of it or not.
In the old days, where people didn't have problems being happily married, your father would've actually done the job for you and your problem would have been a done deal around when you'd have hit 18 years old.
You can even negociate a prenup in many instances, as a safety net.
not for you and me.
Her lawyer (that you will pay for) will laugh as he gets the judge to rip it up in front of you. Then the rest of the trial will take into account that you wanted to "cheat her" and you will pay double
"he pressured me into signing it"
they also expire
so no
Thanks user, youre alright.
>Find a virgin or a woman who has had very few sexual partners.
People with many partners are statistically more likely to cheat because they are not used to resisting the urge to fuck someone they find attractive.
>Important: date for at least 2 years before even considering marriage.
Research has shown you do not know a person completely until you have spent two years with them. The most common times divorce occurs is after 2 years of marriage and 20 years. They stick together for the kids and part.
>Find someone who knows how to argue, not scream. Money is the most common cause of divorce. People argue and stress over it and it destroys them.
>Find a Christian woman who will love always, forgive easily, and not hold grudges. They should lift you up not break you down.
>Somehow find a woman who does not like social media. Single women only post photos of themselves to be called sexy. She should have no interest in that when she has found a mate. The only exception is if she takes photos to show you off to her friends and family when you do stuff together.
This. I plan on finding my wife at church
Then what the hell is the point of having that legal document then? Are there ways where assets can be hidden or not valid in a potential divorce?
Honestly, this is why I've decided to go my own way. There's too much risk in marriage if you're not Chad.
no-fault divorce and then the industry that sprang up around it
it wouldn't be so bad if you'd also fucked off alimony and custody wasn't a one-sided joke
Godspeed anons, may you live fulfilling lives. Nothing beats degeneracy more than leading by example.
I can't do mgtow, I want kids and a woman to help raise them. I have seen successful marriages so they aren't impossible. But its an incredible risk
100% wrong. Single parenthood is wayyyy worse.
>I want kids and a woman to help raise them.
Well find a single mother and offer to step in. Just don't be surprised when she finds her head turned by Chad and you end up single again and posting on Sup Forums for more advice.
you could not pay her a dime and do jail time. who are they gonna chase down if you don't pay?
MGTOW is a pitiful state of existence only thinly veiled by the illusion that the money you'll save is going to somehow cope for your soon to be crippling loneliness. Stop thinking every single woman is a degenerate thot.
consider moving, america posibbly has the worst laws in this field
Divorce itself terrifies you? Do you even know about alimony yet? Imagine being forced to pay some twat $1500 a month for the rest of your life, and if you can't pay, they throw you in jail. And no, declaring bankruptcy does not affect it what-so-ever.
>Find a single mother
I'm not that stupid, besides I want to spread my own genes, not some bix nood nigger's. It's easy to get laid, its easy to find a thot for a few weeks that puts out. Its a whole other story to find a good mother for your children.
Being this dependent is the definition of beta
the prenup is for rich people. Let's say I have a company worth 10Mil and 100Mil in property. I can get a prenup so that the company is off limits and I don't have to share it with my exwife.
I still have to pay her 55Mil to start talking, and she might get a lot more. But as long as she does not get over 100Mil I get to keep my company.
for you and me? maybe you can specify that you get to keep your dog on the divorce, that is about it.
Absolutely any restriction that would stop her from getting "her fair share" in a divorce will make the entire prenup void.
>ways where assents can be hidden?
no
>ways where assets can be not valid in a potential divorce
you are at the mercy of the laws in your country/state. No legal way to protect yourself from whatever those are.
from ur mom
i think the longer you wait before you get married the better your chances are (don't marry until you've been dating for 6+ years). if a couple can stay together for 8 years then they'll most likely be able to stick around for 40. by waiting longer you have more time to see if she's the right person for you and if you can handle her at her worst.
Not for child support. If you have more than 4, the take is 50% of your pay...and you do not get to take the tax deductions for them. You will also be required to provide, at your cost, braces, private school, guitar lessons, summer camp, babysitters, daycare, etc...all on top of the 50% of pay. So, if you were making $100,000 a year, roughly $2,000 a week, your net would be about $1300 per week. She would get $650 per week from you. You would have $650 to pay for the private school, daycare, braces, medical care AND support yourself. You would probably end up with about $200 a week to support yourself. NO prenup regarding child support would be upheld in an American court.
The problem is people have too many sexual partners, rendering them incapable of bonding with a single spouse. Stay chaste until you're really serious about a woman. Try to find a younger girl who isn't a slut.
Its not all about money. Time, effort and self determination are a big plus too
Oh I know about alimony. My mother complained my entire childhood about my dad not making payments to her like some fucking debtor. She did all the tropes. My mother is a walking meme. She told us hate him, made us believe he didn't care, all that shit. Women can be horrid vindictive bitches. I was lucky I could talk about the whole situation with my dad when I got older.
Thats why divorce terrifies me, I know its effects first hand.
Not every woman. Just every woman you'll ever meet, without exception.
This is literally the only sensible thing left to do.
Anyone who get's married in today's climate deserves what comes to them.
What they will do is make it impossible for you to work. All employers are required to send in a new hire form to DHS within 2 weeks of employment, which they check against the child support orders. If you work, the employer must report you, and must hold the money out of your check. I have been on both sides of this, having an order against me, while reporting on new hires so that they could start garnishing them.
>caring about what other men do
The absolute state of this French pussy wew.
Amen to that. Most of the women I've dated have been closet sluts though. It usually comes out in the first two months. Its all about asking the right questions
what happens if the guy kills himself?
He wins
apparently they only work if you both lawyer up and have your own jews go over everything
like it has to be a negotiated contract rather than you just shoving some paper at her to sign
also now you know why cunts stash so much money abroad
wow fuck that. How in the hell did things get that bad? Which country has laws that aren't this pants on backwards retarded?
If I marry someone in a different country, Is it recognized in the united states and am I under that jurisdiction?
You can have that much time, effort and self-determination and even much more when you actually find you have total support from someone who values you as a person and tends to your needs as soon as it arises.
Time to drastically change your living environment, then. Obviously you have identified something's wrong.
I care about people being happy in general, it's called empathy, kike.
I don't know what to tell you, honestly.
If you really care about having kids that much then you'll have time find some way to compromise with that fear... just don't do it because you fell for the Sup Forums meme and think it's solely your responsibility to save the white race or some stupid shit like that.
None of these faggots are gonna be there for you in 30 years when you're trying to get your college drop out kids to get off drugs, hiding from your cunt ex-wife's lawyer trying to serve you papers, or dealing with health problems that make you less able to work.
Most of them will still be living in their aging parents basements.
Communication is a must. And ask your potential partner her thoughts on divorce. My friend married a psycho that flat out said something to the effect of.... "if he ever starts slipping I wont hesitate to leave him". A few years in they werent on the same page and that was it.... Very little effort to make it work.
Why do you think there's so many cases where a dude goes berserk, murders his ex, her lawyer, the judge, his own lawyer, and then brains himself?
Child support at least ends at some point. Alimony is forever (sometimes).
Then he will be dead, and the government will give her social security for the kids, They give something like $700 per month per kid.
Most nations have reciprocity, and would not grant you legal citizenship unless you arranged to pay the support. If you fall behind on your support, your passport will be revoked, so that you can't flee the country. The stinking cunts are REALLY determined to steal your money and ruin your life. And the government is 100% behind them. In fact, it encourages women to have kids with white men and ruin their lives, or have kids with niggers, and make white men pay for them, too.
>woman literally kills your ex, knowing she will go to jail, just to free you from lifetime alimony
That's the woman he should have married.
Ask the girl you're planning to marry that if she's serious about you, if and when you marry, it will be "till death do us part"
If she refuses, she's not worth it
>america posibbly has the worst laws in this field
In France you aren't even allowed to get a DNA test to find out if that black baby your white wife shat out is yours or not.
I didn't have a mother. Was raised by a single dad. Nannies couldn't have done anything to fill the void I still have.
I assume that most women wont be upfront with you before getting married about future plans to fuck you over with the long arm of the law.
I know of a white guy that just got divorced to his white wife who had within the past year birthed him a white baby. They also have a mortgage together. Early 30s. Fucking retards.
Who gets married, has a kid and buys a house in a relationship that is unstable enough to end like that?
Apparently, most people.
Isn't the supposed divorce rate (55%) skewed because it includes people who remarry? People who get divorced once are more likely to get divorced 2,3,4+ times and that skews the statistic.
The real stat is somewhere like 15-20%. Still a disaster but nowhere near 1/2.
>Is no fault divorce the cause of so many divorces nowadays?
Yep.
> How can we fix this?
KILL ALL Lesbians (feminists)
That's interesting. Honestly I only know 1 couple that got divorced so far out of all my friends. The girl was always kinda crazy though. Most people I know who married have made it so far.
t. 34 yr old
you say that like it is their fault that the law is so biased in her favor. Go change it.
If somebody offered you a house, a guaranteed 2k a month and the ability to make every day of a girl's life miserable in exchange for spending three years with that girl in married comfort, would you say no?
Can you prove?
>the surrogate just holds the pre fertilized egg, they don't contribute any DNA
The womb its not and oven, you seem to forget about the umbilical cord user.
I want to get married too, but divorce is what is keeping me from wanting to start a relationship. Women are unpredictable.
how do you feel about widows /same as single parents or not
Same here. I can count the number of people I know who've gotten divorced on one hand. The 55% stat is a lie used to encourage divorce
>this
Actually organic family units are pretty much as common as a wild tiger at this point but that doesn't mean you can't still make make children of their respective native lands. Plus it might make us one step closer to creating genetically modified cat girls.
Let the druggy slutty feminist roasties die off before they get a chance to spawn and raise more nu-male's and landwales who'll have no respect for themselves or their society.
>never marry
>get rich
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>g̶e̶t̶ ̶r̶i̶c̶h̶
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>r̶a̶i̶s̶e̶ ̶k̶i̶d̶s̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶s̶e̶l̶f̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶h̶e̶l̶p̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶h̶i̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶n̶a̶n̶n̶i̶e̶s̶
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>find a 20yo gf and enjoy life
/fixed
>20yo gf divorces/makes false rape claims leaving you in debt and without children along with a criminal record
lol great idea baguette fag.
Education level and status ranking also has an effect on divorce rates. Trash marries trash and you get a trashy marriage
Please don't go and hide it just makes me waste a lot more time with my job serving you.
It's weird I serve divorce papers all throughout the week, and I believe divorce is a spit in the face of God.
Life's weird
>Most of them will still be living in their aging parents basements.
Why does that existence terrify me less than one where my kids are taken from me and brainwashed to hate me while my money is stolen?
>Is no fault divorce the cause of so many divorces nowadays? If not then what is?
The fact that the two people who were having sex with each other, now want to have sex with different people. That's literally the cause of every single divorce. The partner's look at it like they're still in the dating/hook up culture and they can just dump their partner and get a new one when they aren't happy.
The problems arise when they have children with each other and own property together and have joint responsibilities that come with the marriage. It's not like something you can just leave like a kid in highschool can just end a relationship.
Normies are literally too horny and too short-sighted to even comprehend this though. Women moreso than men.
>How can we fix this?
Getting rid of the divorce court system altogether. Another problem divorce is prevelant is because it has it's own seperate legal system that gives profit incentive to everyone involved to destroy marriages. Allow divorce, but with no courts involved. You file for one, given a few months to sort it out and it's done. If the cheating whore knows she's not going to get alimony and child support out of it, do you think she's still gonna try and leave?
We need to make it not-profitable to divorce.
No it's not. Because then asshole people who the parents are cheating with get INVITED OUT OF THE DARK INTO THE KIDS LIVES and then they end up ruining their lives since the lover's kid's aren't theirs.
It's better to almost force the two sex-havers to stay with each other then allowed their lust to destroy everyone else around them, their kids especially.
>prenups
just kill your wife
It's true. Scary shit desu
>Tfw right on the line between trash and class and married a girl I thought was class but was really trash
We're divorced now, thank god
Yep, women project false happiness onto social media, duping other women into thinking that they could have an incredible life by leaving their stable husband and gambling on finding someone new. Problem is, all these women are actually miserable.
This doesn't work at all. You'd be "creepy" for dating a younger girl unless you're basically Chad. And have the "traditional values" girls end up having a rebellion against it and being the biggest sluts.
>rasing kids without loving mother as NORMAL parent
You monster.
Keep in mind guys that divorce courts are literally seperated from the normal court systems so they can basically just make up the rules as they go along. And the judges and lawyers just want money. The whole process is designed to just literally fleece the guy.
for people whose spouse/SO died young what is best to do
watch a movie called Divorce Corp. (((they))) are destroying families for shekels and there's very little you can do to stop it. the only way to win the game at this point is to not play
move to a state without common law marriages and never get married
>*Holds up shaving razor*
>I'm teh DiVoRcE CoUrT of D00M! XD
>So random
I'm the say way. I want kids and I wont enter a relationship with any woman unless I know she'd make a good mom. That's the most responsible way of dating, date like your looking for a future mother. If you date just for sex, you end up in all the shitty situations normies do with kids they didn't want and the cucking and the cheating.
Oddly enough, women I've talked to about this
Divorce should become illegal again.