Honest question, why are millennials so entitled?

Honest question, why are millennials so entitled?

>be me, 18, getting my first job while skipping college
>all the 20/30-somethings I work with are spoiled af
>they all think they're gonna get promoted within a year
>they still rely on their parents to make financial decisions for them, plus constantly get showered with good boy points while still making a salary

I used to have sympathy for this generation. They were supposedly the hard working youth going up against the post-recession economy. In reality they're spoiled manchildren who've had it easy all their lives thanks to their parents.

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Do you blame someone for not wanting to fit into corporate culture 40 or more hours a week and be fake every single hour?

I'm a Millennial and hate my generation. I will say the silver lining is that being surrounded by lazy entitled brats will make you look like a good employee by default.

Having the privilege of doing that is what makes this country great. If you don't like it go get a job at McDonald's, and cut the socialism bullshit.

Ah a blame millennials bread where they are what's entirely wrong with society while having almost no impact on policies set forth by boomers who won't fucking retire. We've never heard this before.
>inb4 spoiled millennial manchild
Born in '85 and have worked since I was 7 and moved out at 17.

Better to be a neet or someone's trap than a dumb laborer

All or nothing

Honestly this. I didn't get any real competition until someone else my age was hired. I will say that millennials are more fun to have around. Lol

Do you know why they expect a promotion?
Because that's what their parent boomers got. Boomers are the real problem here. A dog usually isnt born bad. Its how its raised.

There are exceptions to the rule. I'm not judging people for being born as millennials, I'm judging millennials who reek of millennial habits.

Youre just angry at lazy people. It doesn't matter whether they are millennial or not. I work with a bunch of lazy gen Xers while millennials have to carry their weight. Its just lazy people.

>>>they all think they're gonna get promoted within a year
Do promotions still exists?
I thought moving up the corporate ladder required jumping jobs

I just don't like how they don't seem to value skills or what's learned. They want education to be prestige and abstract only. They hate it when someone's educated to know the job.

i dont know what milennials you idiots know

I saw more of the stay in the same job for life and almost always stay within the same exact workplace for many years. Is this rare? It made me not care about what "most" employers thought because I was used to seeing someone hang on to something for life.

For none graduate positions most companies do actually have a promotion, or at least pay rise, every year for the first 5 years kind of deal going on assuming successful completion of an evaluation. And if you're 18 and skipping college you're doing it wrong if you aren't going in to a trade.

Generation Z here. I am jumping off this wage slave ship. I don't blame those who choose to stay aboard and keep up with the jones. But I am okay making just enough to get by and having personal luxury in moderation in exchange for greater personal freedom. The ship will sink with or without me.

They should have woke the fuck up in '08. There comes a time when you rely less on your parents and make decisions for yourself. A lot of millennials are capable of that, but they would rather avoid being independent because it's too hard for them. My generation doesn't have a choice. We were the families who lost their homes in the subprime crisis. Most of our parents can't house us unless we pay rent.

But what about the ones who are disabled or have health issues? Today's workplace fires anyone slightly off at the drop of a hat.

I'm a software engineer. Degrees are a poor investment in my field. Experience and capability are what counts.

I dont necessarily disagree. I consult my parents when I'm making tough decisions, since they have wisdom I dont. However, living at home is a complex issue due to how the housing market and the job market is. Thats a whole different story though however. Personally, my parents almost want me to move back in. I just dont think I could it anymore.

Yeah, its more common to hop jobs from what ive been told. My grandpa and older boomer coworkers always tell their tall tales about how they told their boss to go fuck themselves and then they ended up with their bosses job.
It does depend on the field though so.

I take that thinking and mod it a little.I want to homestead 50/50.I have an interview for a job to service porta johns and septic tanks.Yea...I know,but it pays good.Up to 28 an hour.Ill prob get around 16 or 17 though.I dont need a super high paying job or alot of prestige.My fiance thinks its fine and thats enough.Id rather focas on having a fulfilled life of raising some animals and blacksmithing while working a normal job.Dont need a big house either. Enough to raise a couple kids in.

" "spoiled" " by a crackerjack and a half allowance until they're 30?

This is a "shilling the (((system)))" thread.

A debt based monetary system is IMPOSSIBLE to suceed in - thats the point, but thrads like this seek to shame you into contributing.

Don't

I am shooting for 60-70k annual salary, until I can bank enough money to homestead myself. I reckon it will take arouns 5-10 years. My crazy stretch goal, is that here in Northern BC we have a lot of abandoned towns. I would like to go be the guy who maintenances one as a retirement.

Also, wages have completely stagnated the last 20 years.

Probably the most low-testosterone post I've seen in a while.

I guess I wasn't prepared for that reality. I can't even relate to a parent switching jobs let alone workplaces many times or even promotion. Just higher pay and benefits for seniority.

have you tried telling them "no"?

works every time and the responses are priceless

My dad has has a different job every year, so I guess I never blinked an eye at the concept of job changing often. There are those who did the whole lifer thing, but that was a different time. You cant do that nowadays. I work with a guy who has been at the company since he graduated college, and he is in his like 70s.

Whenever I talked about a job my parents just told my how hard work is and I should focus on school. Instead they had me at home as much as possible to do work around the house. When I got my first job at 18 they didn't even seem proud of me.

What am I supposed to do? Strive ambitiously to make a bunch of money I don't want so I can have half of it taxed and then spend the other half on whores and doodads? No thanks that isn't my cup of tea.

Why do the call it the Xbox 360?

Because when you see it you turn 360 degrees and walk away

Boomers are more entitled.
Hedonism and nihilism are the issues affecting the millennial generation.

Easy solution: Don't go into debt

>being a wagie

Save up for that diamond ring, wagie, or you wont get a fat dumb wife

Going into debt (that you can default on, NOT student loans) is an excellent idea, just do so with an LLC so when you declare bankruptcy, you'll be immune from forfeiting property outside of the business.

You don't have to work for someone else but you do have to work. Work makes the world go around. Someone had to work to raise your chicken and slaughter it and put it in the store for someone to make you your tendies. So to pay for it you should find something you're good at and do it to. Draw anime porn. Be an e-celeb. Sell drugs. A nigger selling drugs on the street is less of a drain then a NEET who refuses to do anything. If you're an autist put it to work somehow there are niche jobs everywhere online these days. Become Jeff Bezos's robot bitch and be a mechanical turk if you have to. Being white means you want to give back. I am feeling that 53% meme lately I feel like a lazy nig with a short time preference and that I am unable to delay gratification. Our ancestors were better then that at least some of them were and we should try and emulate the good ones.

How about saving for a house? Or saving for retirement? If it's your plan to delay those 2 things you're making it harder for yourself later on.

I would like to see a study that measures the effects of 15 million illegals on wage growth.

They don't pay taxes so they can work for less and make the same amount, this creates a constant downward pressure on wages. Their mere presence also increases the supply of labor and lowers wages even more.

There are more employed illegals in America than the unemployment percentages. ICE kicking ass and taking names will be fantastic for the American worker.

How are those luxuries? No fucking shit I will do both of those things.

I graduated HS in '10. I never went to university.

Friends and people I know who went the white collar route are either jobless or working deadend menial fast food and retail Jobs. They went to university for over 4 ears and got a useless overpriced peice of paper and cant find work in their field.

Others are travelling the world and I have no idea how they are getting the money. Some old highschool friends are visiting all of Europe, Africa and other places far away for extended periods of time. I'm not sure how they support themselves.

Those of us who went blue collar and into the trades all have steady work and get paid well. I don't know of a single white collar friend who has left their parents basement. Everyone who went into the trades owns a house and lives comfortably, myself included.

>saving for a house
And where do you live until then, smartass?

Oh, our family can finally move into a big house, now that our children are 19 and 22

Do you think this can be a problem if your family's reality was that? I'm Millennial and have had to make things up just to not seem like I'm out of touch. There are many people's problem's today that I can't relate to. It's like another universe.

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Even liberal rags proclaim that illegals lower wages, and put forth that they should be made citizens to solve the problem.

Hilarious!

Neet>wage slave but you could do better then that. Can you speak English as well as write it maybe you could give a tour guide to tourists? I've thought about learning foreign languages to do that here but foreign tourists don't come out to the desert where I live very often.

Why should their opinion matter at this stage? I told my parents to go fuck themselves before I moved out, but that was for my own reasons.

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>Why didn't those dumb fucks have an uncle or a friend to get them a cozy union job where I can fleece the skin off dumb pensioners?

My family was union so I never really experienced the lack of benefits, lack of free time, lack of vacations, lack of job security, or lack of pay keeping up with inflation. It was like the unions insulated me.

good plan and sounds nice.Hell id love to do a community thing like that.Kind of like an enclave in an abandoned town.She has to stay near family though and yea from what I hear to homestead is really hard to break even,but much more rewarding

>This ship is going to sink anyways. Why even bail?
I'm not going to say that you're wrong but way to show some spine there. You may pay fealty to UK but you're inherently French. Never give up leaf bro even if it's a futile struggle that way when we die if there is a reckoning we can say we tried. It's not about whether the ship sinks or not it's about what your actions were in that moment. You're not the captain. You can't control water like Poseidon. But you can whinge and cringe or bail like a man. Don't bail for them. Dont' bail for diversity. Bail for yourself. For the billions of generations that came before you. You owe it to them not to give up. Even if Canada falls and the ship sinks you'll have grown strong from the bailing and trying and will maybe swim to shore.

Trades are a good way to go, especially in an age when most millennials think they're too good for them. But there are some good white collar industries still. You just need to pay attention to statistics like job creation before choosing a degree, if that's your thing.

I bet the union company works for the American government too?

If federal shekels are what employs you then yes, you have been insulated from the 2008 recession and other problems.

This.Trades will almost always make money.Welding will be the first to go to automation though imo.Not for a long time though.Unfortunatly I have a bad back and am terrible at math or I would take up welding or plumbing.

If you're willing to pump shit for a living then building your own house should be easy:
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If you do it yourself you can maybe skate around property taxes if you're sly enough and rural enough.

I'm not sure honestly. I think its because my parents are definitely younger than most kids. Its just one of those fresher perspectives and their memories of what life was like at 22 is closer than that of my boomer grandparents, who never had to do half the stuff I need to just to stay relevant in the job market.

It's immigrants in general that stagnate wages for the global corporations. Over 1/3 of America are non European immigrants, this is why wages have stagnated while essentials have inflated.

Trades are good I agree, but be wary of the tolls it brings to your body. I work with painters and welders, and those older painters are...well not all the way there anymore. Welders are getting skin cancer and the like.
Just be careful when choosing a career

>wanting a smart wife with opinions
Bad choice, m8

This is largely the case for me. The issues my family faced were health related and not financially related, not even health insurance coverage related. How would it affect someone if they were insulated from the struggles of most people their age? Because not only was I insulated from a lot of the post 2008 things, I was also insulated from a lot of the childhood issues people my age faced.

you sound like one of those " I FUCKING HATE MILLENNIALS AND HERE IS WHY" buzzfeed authors

My point I was trying to get across is that our generation was lied to. We were all told we HAD to go to university to be successful. I signed up for university and got accepted but had no idea what I wanted to take or even pursue. My phone rang one day, "user you haven't selected any courses, what do you want to take? You need to decide right now!" I told them take me off the list I'm not going. Best decision I ever made.
The vast majority of people in university and about to go to university have absolutely no business being there. I'd say only the top 20% smartest people should go to university, everyone else should not waste their time playing into the (((system))). Modern colleges and universities are breeding grounds for degeneracy.

And no I don't have and uncle, friend or family member who got me into my current position. I did it myself. I started working two days after I graduated high school and haven't been unemployed since.

Thats fucking cool.We were thinking Quonset hut like in the pic,but id do smaller.I just need to give the girl the kitchen she wants.She said shell cook and homestead,but wants a nice kitchen...so good trade.The rural is true though and were gonna buy a foreclosed house with some land so it has plumbing and other stuff on property already.

I'm just glad I never had the follow your dreams meme pushed on me or the just go to college and you're guaranteed to get a career thing. I was taught security, stability, practicality, and budget. Many people's parents pushed this and it seems crazy.

How's it like having Boomer grandparents? My grandparents were born in the 20s and 30s. They listened to things like Frank Sinatra.

Do you selfishly vote Democrat in federal elections?

Working millennial here. I work with boomers and Gen X who are entitled cunts.
>Hurrr why are millennial this that and the other thing?

We're not. just products of the fucked environment the prior generations made. I do the same job as my co-workers for $10 less per hour. As per the contract, it'll take me 8 years working for the company to hit max pay rate where as these Boomer fucks started at Max wage the day they were hired.

These fucks are also getting $35k/year pensions after 25 years where as my generation of workers will either find something else to earn money, or work for the company until I die. Yet even with all this, all I hear from them is "muh pension, muh social security muhfugguh". Meanwhile I'm just saving all my pennies for a house. All while these people poke fun because "when I was your age, I had a 10 room house, and 3 brand new cars, and a boat, etc. Just so tired of living in the fucked up economy as is the after math of prior generations. Fucking bullshit. All this effort to have a lower standard of living than they ever had for a tenth of the money I have to pay.

College is necessary to get promoted though. It's a piece of paper you need to show you can jump through hoops and spent your time. Many places won't promote you without checking the box.

I wasn't told follow your dreams really or that I could do anything. This is why I can't relate to a lot of the nihilism. I never really expected much and was taught things like going for something practical and in demand, and that unionized, healthcare, or military positions were the best for security, stability, and benefits. Any job with variable pay or not totally secure was seen as a scam to be avoided.

I'm a milenial and I make 66k per year to drive a semi truck and come home to my bed every night. I support my wife child and house payment on this salary. We are not poorfags.

Get a real fucking job and become a man. I live in red rural WA, no income tax and I live in the cheapest cost of living county in the state. I am not in some trailer park either. The amount of complaining by my generation makes me sick.

I originally didnt want to go to college, but last minute decided on a career. I'm satisified. My field always has jobs available so I'm happy with that. My parents didnt care either way what I did. They were proud of me regardless.
I basically have two different types. My one side got rich through business and hard work after going to college. My other side they both worked themselves up from rags to a decent stable life from my grandpa working odd jobs and self taught welding. Basically either story is almost hard to believe with todays economy and job market. Both sides understand the struggles that the world brings, which is better than some of the other boomers I met.

I don't find the business thing hard to believe in today's economy though, especially in technology. I think to make it today, the risks taken must be far higher. My parents struggled in their 20s so they get it more.

Gen Z explanation?

Well it was more of a machining business that he started from like a half broken lathe all the way up to millions when he sold his company.

Did your parents work a lot growing up?

My parents did yeah. Mom worked in a factory until I was born. Stopped working until I was old enough to babysit my siblings. Then back to work. Dad worked pretty much always.

It's because those are the 20/30 somethings that work at a job for 18 year-olds. Also one town, one workplace. Your survey has selection bias. Where do you work?

It's not a privilege. In fact, it's so undesirable we are building fake people to do it for us.

The largest gap I've seen in the millennial generation is the marriage gap. The married millennials I've met know about managing responsibility and put their families first. But the vast majority of that generation isn't even responsible for themselves.

How many hours a week did your dad work?

I worked at an office for a year. No thanks. I didn't love the job but was not that horrible. But the people (mostly millenials like me)... I don't want to be around that kind of people for my whole life.

Unironically kill yourself. Didn't even get past the first sentence.

Go back to pleddit. I can feel it in this post.

>Truck driver
I would have a fall back option, that's one of the next industries on the chopping block for automation.

Depends. One job he was pulling 70 to 80 hours. Orher jobs he worked 20 to 30 and got paid for 40.

Since your mom stayed home did she teach you a lot or take you lots of places?

t. not a truck driver

The millenial and its hubris. You know not one iota about the industry and how it works, reading some tech blog masturbate over fantasy scenarios about fully autonomous trucks sharing the road with the public is foolhardy. Planes and trains still require a man at the helm, and those environments dont have traffic literally less than 5 feet next to them moving at different speeds.

You're incredibly arrogant. Come back when you have actual life experience.

Nope, not really I was mostly left to my own devices. So I read a lot

It's your retarded generation that pampered them. Boomers really have no concept of cause and effect.

Like it or not, everyone needs to work for a living. You could have it a lot worse than working at a fucking office. I've known people who were living on the streets as teenagers but found a way out through work, because it was their only option.

>boomer
I'm from Gen Z.

I do believe that automation of the truck field is going to happen. Just not soon or with nobody in the cab. It'll be about another 20 to 30 years before we can reliably do automated trucking with minimal driver interaction.

>What do you mean you only have 2 years of experience user? You've been out of college doing odd jobs for 5 years, surely you've had more experience in this specialized field for longer. Sorry, but we need someone with 5 years experience for this job.
>Back in my day we got a job out of college, you guys should be grateful for unpaid internships, they get your foot in the door.
>Housing is expensive? Inflation? Real estate bubble? I own 3 houses already, if I decided to sell them off they would be worth 2.5 times what I got them for. Just save all your money and don't buy anything except what you need.
>Na your neighbors are friendly just like mine in the suburbs were when I was young. I mean sure there might be some crime, but there's crime everywhere! Just because all these different people live in one place doesn't mean that cultural differences are the problem. My parents were racist, I hope you aren't racist, all they did was babble about communism and blacks, they weren't so bad!

If a Millennial shaped up and became hard working would you be judgmental towards him?

So your parents were pro communist and denied inner city crime?

I've known plenty who were shaped up from the start. Needless to say, they didn't get there by sucking on their parents' financial teet.

Do you not see the conflicting narrative in the boomers story

>He lived with his parents in the suburbs
>His parents were racist and lived in a neighborhood that was likely to be made up entirely of whites
>Communism and blacks aren't so bad guy, my parents were just paranoid!

And yet nogs here are beating random whites to death because of these enablers. They never had to deal with the problem, they were never exposed to it, yet they pretend to know what sort of things they surged in their liberation from tradition, and responsibility.

This is wrong, If you turned 360 you'd be facing the same direction and still looking at the xbox

Its the nations debt thats the problem since the nation borrows that national currency which is what we work for.

We literally work for debt. the more we work, the sooner the ship sinks.

Both of those applicants in the cartoons are contemptible pieces of shit. I don't see a difference.

This is the primary reason why I am against immigration

Its true but it's fantastic. I do very well sticking out among them. It's a shame so many vote left wing to take my money in taxes anyway, but their shitty work ethic moves me up.