Did we really need to nuke Japan?

Did we really need to nuke Japan?

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fuck yeah. those filthy raping degenerates deserved 2 nukes for unit731 alone

Gotta nuke someone.

Um. USA did the same things too, it just wasn’t publicly declared.

Yes. Fuck em

Probably saved tenfold lives than not nuking them would have resulted in. They deserved it even if that wasn't true.

I don't think you know what they did in unit 731 if you think we did the same

Go back to China Zhang..

how dare you reply to me you filthy soyboy

Yeah you're delusional if you don't think every major government on the planet experiments on humans in secret.

Two wasn't enough.

Told them to surrender. They didn't. We nuked them. They still didn't fuck off so we did it again. In the end, they should thank us because the commies were about to invade and ten times the number would have starved to death.

dude don't ask us. there the asshats that wouldn't knock it off. like srsly guys you navy gone.

well done

It was just a prank. But seriously they did attack us on a Sunday morning. That's bullshit and you know it

So if the commies took over it would be like North Korea today? Independent? Morally sound? No sexual deviancy and degeneracy? No LGBTQ+ rights? No niggers and third worlders flooding the country? Wow looks like they really got the better deal huh? Thank god America was there to ensure Japan plays a role in the global market.

No. They were passing legislation to get out of the war, they were basically out. Japan turned out great so maybe the nukes weren't a bad idea.

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An effort to end the war quickly to prevent Stalin invading from the North and seizing part of the Japanese Empire

It would be split with a shitty north Japan and South Japan. Currently they have all the benefits of a ethnic nation state and the only degeneracy you see is natural cultural kind like tentacle rape. So Japan is a rare example of reaping the benefits of capitalism without the cancer.

Japan would very likely have fought one of the bloodiest wars in history to the last man if we hadn't.

better question is did we need to firebomb all their cities before we nuked'em. look how great they are today though!

>USSR
>Josef "No Navy" Stalin
>transporting an army by sea to seize Japan

Um, sweetie, how exactly?

Knowing Stalins tactics they'd probably be made to swim

Did you really though?

We COULD nuke Japan. What does need have to do with it? It's the mightiest act of war ever. Someone was going to, and we did.

lmao sounds right

No. Nukes are planet killers and we never should have discovered atomic energy.

fukkin kek

Yes. It was a middle finger to Stalin and the Russians and a warning to not fuck with us.

Tuskegee experiments and the Lynchburg eugenics program off the top of my head.

No, they were about to surrender, and their surrendering had nothing to do with them being nuked.

It's just too bad we didn't drop the 3rd one on them (and instead the 3rd nuke killed a couple american scientists)

The real and only answer to this question.

and that somehow is equivalent to kidnapping chinese, korean, and russian pregnant women and forcing men with syphillis to rape them?

they put people in pressure chambers and just waited for them to pop.

Go back to China, Zhang.

Depends. Stalin was late in invading Manchuria in the beginning of August like he promised the allies he would at the Yalta Conference. He didn't invade until the first atom bomb because he was initially afraid of the Kwantung army and wanted time to prepare. Once he realized he could lose leverage in deciding the fate of east Asia with the first atom bomb, Russian forces invaded Manchuria and, to their surprise, easily crushed the Japanese.

People say that the Japanese would have surrendered because the Soviets destroyed their most important land armies, but if it weren't for the first atom bomb, the Soviet attack would have been delayed for at least a month. The first atom bomb was necessary for a swift atom bomb, but the second atom bomb probably wasn't necessary, except perhaps to convince some of the more hard-line generals that war was futile and to not back the coup attempts.

>I can't refute the claim
go to school cleetus

Yeah. Why? Because nukes.

>Did we really need to nuke Japan?
The USA devolved the bomb to nuke Germany.

The war against Germany ended before the nukes were complete.

The USA still wanted to nuke someone so they nuked Japan.

>using unsubstantiated evidence

>it was a total shoah
>6 million jews died at Auschasaki and Hirowitz

Absolutely not. We should never have nuked Japan look at the end result: china became a communist shithole but a powerful communist shithole, Soviet Union raped and annexed half of Europe, and for what? What did we really fucking gain? Footing in a dying world? Stupid waste. Japan would have made amazing allies but we went and fucked up their oil and cried bitch when they attacked us. Doolittle raids Tokyo fire bomb blowing up civilians over and over again big nuking its all bulkshit that was pro communist.

I know a World War Two vet that fought the japs then he got deployed in china near the Great Wall for a transport mission and wound up with some nationalist Chinese guys. Wel they got into a firefight with some Reds then got ordered to stand down while the commies overwhelmed them fucking disgrace

weeaboos will also be hanged during the cleansing

It was probably just a firebomb/napalm. I don't believe in nuclear weapons. Nakatani's book on the subject, Death Object, is what convinced me. You can google it and find it on endchan as a pdf

Even Japanese historians agree that the bombings were a necessary evil in the course of avoiding a full-scale land invasions that would have caused even more death and destruction. Japan was fully prepared to fight until one side or another was utterly annihilated - and even after more than 60 cities had been destroyed by conventional ordnance and two more had been leveled by a pair of bombs whose destructive power was unrivaled by anything previously seen in human history, there were many politicians in Japan (including the prime minister) who argued that surrender, even if it would avoid further destruction on such an unprecedented scale, was absolutely unacceptable.

Whether the bombings can be morally justified is a difficult subject to argue, the reality of the situation is that surrender, even when faced with destructive capabilities they could not hope to match. They were, in fact, prepared to weather out further atomic bombs in order to continue the war, it was only the combination of the bombs and the declaration of war from the Soviets ontop of that, that persuaded Hirohito to accept the terms of surrender in the Potsdam declaration.

No, the US/soviets could have ended the war conventionally but in the end it was worth it.

>necessary evil
For what what did anybody gain. Beating Japan? That turned out great Southeast Asia is s crime ridden shithole with jihadists mainland china is a robotic communist death machine that wiped out millions of people and tried to erase historical Chinese identity yeah big fucking win for us

>Gotta nuke someone.
oh fuck my sides, so underrated

But seriously OP, we'd just come out with the nuke, it would be pointless to invent something that would change the world forever and not use it. We had to tell the rest of the world that we run everything now.

It would be unironically good if you nuked us. it would made fascism so much mor feasible in the long run.

Yes. They would have killed many more ameriburgers if not for snukes.

They were completely belligerent. It had to be done. It’s like when a woman is attacking you to the point where you have no choice but to hit her back or she will seriously hurt you.

With what navy?
While the island is surrounded by the entire US pacific fleet?
With no heavy long range bombers?
With literally 0 landing craft
What are they gonna do flood the strait with their dead?

I was just thinking how different the world would have been if we nuked Germany too, Maybe you guys wouldn't have been so cucked. Maybe we'd get lucky and have killed mama Merkles ancestor to prevent her from ever rising to power.

Correct. I spoke on the phone with Theodore Van Kirk, the Enola Gay's navigator who said the exact same thing. We would have lost millions of lives invading their homeland.

>Japanese empire
>woman

We behaved more like women crying and whining sniffling their oil supplies then acted "surprised" when we false flagged Pearl Harbor just to get involved in a fucking stupid war that destroyed Europe wiped out Japan and gave communism final victory over us all woohoo USA USA USA we did it we showed those nationalists that communism is the only way forward yeah

if they weren't nuked, we wouldn't have animu. think about that for a second.

It was necessary to end the war. That's all there is to it. Sure, much of Asia might be a shithole now, but continuing the war wasn't in anyone's best interests.

Easier to nuke civilians from sky then it is to fight warriors on the field hahahahahah ultimate cucks

Fought the wrong enemy in the wrong war for the wrong reasons.

I don't think Pearl Harbor was a false flag, but it wasn't a supprise attack, Japan told us they were going to attack Pearl Harbor before they did. Nobody relayed the message TO Pearl Harbor, which is what caused it to be so bad.
America forced it to be a surprise attack in order to gain support of the public against the Japanese.

F* off Russo-Chinese Cheatington McLiars

Ya that's what makes it a false flag attack really. It was all
Bullshit to con Americans in a war to support communist takeover of Asia and Europe

I do agree with you insomuch that the Allies aligning with communist Russia/China was a mistake, but by then it was water under the bridge, and hindsight is often 20/20.

hell no, then germans would have fucked up teeth.

March across the sea floor

how much more cucked can a man get?

If it was such a good false flag why didnt WWII conclude with a single NWO?

Didn't it though?

Not much more
Millions of patriotic Europeans and Asians died for world communism that's pretty much it. Our ancestors all got cucked and blown out lied too and sacrificed in the alter for "progress"

Why does everyone act like Japan attacking Pearl Harbor and attacking everyone there (Including civilians visiting at the time of the attack), but we drop nukes after dropping pamphlets prior warning people about getting nuked and suddenly the US is terrible.

It didn’t. Coming close is still failure.

>world run by international financial groups offshore banking big pedophile rings massive """power blocs"""

Ya ok buddy

Because Pearl Harbor was a false flag. Intel knew kr was coming but jewed everyone then used it as propaganda to mobilize white European Americans into committing cultural suicide by dying for world communism and wiping out all nationalist resistance for future generations

you didn't nuke them enough tbqh

Yes it will be okay. Start a conversation with a stranger on the street. Keep that up and you’ll realize evil is in the minority. What are you, a faithless atheist??

With the European theater winding down, the Soviets turned their attention to Japan. If the US couldn't force Japan to surrender, it could've become like post-war Germany with Manchuria and the Koreas likely being kept under the Soviet bloc like Eastern Europe.

China going communist may have happened regardless - even an undefeated Japan couldn't hold on to the entire interior.

Southeast Asia devolving was due to reduction in power projection from the French and British. The Allied powers weren't going to let the Japanese take these holdings unpunished, and had the Japanese NOT attacked those holdings, we'd be looking at a very different war in the Pacific - if there was to be one at all.

To the OP's question. Yes, the US could have possibly forced Japan to surrender conventionally, but there would have been massive casualties and costs for all parties involved: US, Japanese, and (had we not forced a quick surrender) Soviet with a likely Pacific Soviet Bloc in the Koreas and Northern Japan.

We were originally going to drop a 3rd bomb, but Japan surrendered a few days before we dropped it.

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>mass brainwashing campaigns in universities
>mass displacement of demographics
>demonization of tradition and history

Hahahah okay happy pill fsggot Japan didn't need all of china just key cities the commies would have never beaten them then America supported world communism and fire bombed mass massacres of Japanese people and backed world communism which won World War Two

Yep goes to show you what was really important: allowing world communisms triumph and annihilation of all resistance at any means necessary

Absolute disgrace

We should have dropped 10 more nukes on them. Depleted our supply. Rebuild more nukes, and dropped those, too.

My Uncle was a March of Bataan survivor, and I’ll never forgive the Japanese for what they did to him & his fellow prisoners. My disgust with MacArthur is almost as high.

Okay kike fuck off

no
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Tuskegee was incredibly fucked up. Unit 731 was objectively worse

We didn't, nukes are fake. They don't exist.

USA protected unit 731 members so what was that all about hmmmmm

Maybe our nukes were misplaced. Maybe there was never a need for nukes to begin with. But what happened, happened. No sense in bitching at each other over something we have no control over.

Yes.
And we didn't use enough of them.

they're chinks, who cares? You really should nuke Mecca and Nigeria desu.

>Japanese
>chinks

Fuck of Chinese rat. I know what you're trying to do it isn't working

YES.

Thanks america for brining freedom to Japan!

I agree with Mecca getting glassed. But as for Apefreaka, why stop at Nigeria?

Fuck off faggot us navy burnout cuck bitch homo piece of shit con artist

Valuable resources dumbass

Thanks Japan, I'm sure even you understand your people were going a little fucking crazy
That edge is pretty sharp bro, be careful

We didn't "need to," but karma sure is a bitch. There's arguably a moral justification for using the bomb, but there's also a highly practical justification for it as well.

The Japanese Empire's rape (literal and figurative) of China, their mistreatment of the Korean people and their fucked up experiments on prisoners, including human vivisection was unnecessary.

I've see the aftermath photos of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, including their toll on the civilian populations. I've also seen photos from the Rape of Nanking. I would argue that The Empire of Japan was an evil empire and got what they had coming.

As a practical matter, the bomb took the wind out of the sails of "we'll fight on to the last man" because once the leadership saw how destructive the bomb was, they were faced with the dilemma of choosing whether or not to fight on against a foe that had a weapon which was now clearly and unequivocally powerful enough to guarantee destruction of not only their remaining military forces, but also their entire civilian population. This basically meant choosing between preservation of the Japanese culture and people or the complete eradication of same.

I know it's not always the case that two wrongs make a right, but in this instance I think that it was not only justified, but necessary.

Oh yeah but firebombig civilians dropping nukes on them in service to world communism is just fine

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Resting fingers
Aaaaand

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Nukes are a hoax.

Exactly we have to allow the annihilation of all Asian and European peoples with enslavement to world communism to be allowed or it will be One big Shoah

Everyone has empires but wtf Japan has one that's just not acceptable the good communists who kill millions are good people that's why we surrendered to them and allowed ourselves to be annexed by them I agree nuke more nationalists right comrade


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