Consider what you use the internet for: >Email >Web Browsing >Netflix/Youtube/Video and Music Streaming >Vidya Gaming
What do you notice? That all of these uses have different requirements. What is important for Video streaming? That is streams fast enough that the video is not interrupted, you care about bandwith, you don't care about latency. What is important for video games? Low latency, most games use very little bandwith, even with voicechat. What is important for email and web browsing? That it loads within about 2 seconds of you click the button, bandwith and latency requirements are pretty low.
Internet traffic is not equal and should not be equal.
I need feedback and help in defeating Soros, Google and R_t faggot normies who believe NN lies.
Andrew Cruz
bumping with lies
fuck you faggots, read my thread.
Aiden Reed
Remember that different internet lanes is good. >Low latency, reliable connections for realtime applications like VOIP and games. >High bandwith, buffered and smooth streams for video where being 2-5 seconds behind realtime is totally okay. >Acceptable and reliable connections for general web browsing and email where performance requirements are low.
Easton Adams
Web sites and emails are also far far smaller than a 4K video.
Ayden Carter
One suprise I learned when using a limited connection overseas was that skype video is extremely low data bandwith even when the quality seemed very good.
Compare that to youtube which just eats up cellphone data without a clear reason why it should use so much more data. Know who wrote Net Neutrality? Google, who owns youtube.
Elijah Price
maybe I should have had the OP be a giant baitpost where I pretended to support NN.
Gavin Powell
Boy! Its like that's what we've been saying for years! Good job!
Justin Hernandez
I might not be a smart man, but I finally have arguments that directly counter the commie lies about NN. We've been stuck being only able to answer, "I disagree." But now I can tell numales that net neutrality harms both their netflix and video game addictions.
>Botnets Target FCC Website Over Net Neutrality, Researchers Say Net Neutrality is astroturfed by fucking commies. It is manufactured public opinion that the soyboys believe.
Zachary Long
We had arguments to counter NN before it got implemented in the first place.
one thing is that if net neutrality si passed then the gov't. will tax the hell out of it.
Carter Adams
the arguments are often non-sequitur to begin with, partitioning packets through the ISP hubs and wires would not be a bad thing necessarily, it doesn't follow that it would reduce the average user's speed, there's no reason to do that as that would make the average consumer more pissed.
However, it should be said that on my basic cable package, i have download speeds that i have rarely maxed. 95% of people simply would not even notice if their internet speed were cut by 25% or more.
The other argument is that ridding NN would turn the internet into cable tv, with subscriptions for websites. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's not feasible without government legislating it or some federal bureaucracy mandating it through regulation across the board.
It doesn't even make sense to do anyway.
David Collins
>different data has different requirements hol up. so what yous be sayins is, we need to pay individually for each service? ayyo man hol up lemme get a payday loan so i can pay schlomo $20 for email, $20 for a "premium website package", $50 for netflix/youtube, and $50 for games (ads included in each one). ayyo man sheeeiiit you got dat new diamond package bibba? how you gonna watch the game without the $200 diamond streaming package?
Ian Ramirez
good job, you tricked yourself into conforming we love you btw ;)
Zachary Myers
No but it would be nice if you as a user could define certain connections on "keep this vidya connection low latency."
Alexander Long
We all know Google wrote Net Neutrality to abuse ISPs and get more than their share of bandwidth for the same price.
Matthew Diaz
>However, it should be said that on my basic cable package, i have download speeds that i have rarely maxed. 95% of people simply would not even notice if their internet speed were cut by 25% or more.
Your eyes can't see over 30 fps. Why bother ever making 60 fps?
Elijah Powell
what's that got to do with net neutrality? can't isp's implement qos on their end and just let udp packets have priority?
Kayden Brooks
NN was just a distraction to the public but moreover, it enabled the FCC to spend tax dollars to build Streaming companies called Edge providers customer base.
Edge providers like Twitter don't care about net neutrality when it comes to how they manage content.
Killing competition is what Mike O is good at. look at what he did to help AT&T with the CBRS rules.
Isaiah Anderson
>hey guys let’s give msm complete control over the internet.
Fucking queer ass shill playing us from both sides as usual just like the two party system is designed to do.
Except this is exactly what it will do now that only the approved giant companies have been established. Nn will make it impossible for any other company to compete.
Alexander Bailey
Nn repeal*
Anthony King
On the contrary, less regs that control competition will encourage more competition.
The FCC has been studying the issue and Wireless last mile is going to play a significant role in competition.
Mike O's policy change in CBRS is just the beginning of a resurgence of the FCC propping up Big Business in selling Internet.
Compliance policies to protect the consumer are handled at the FTC
Spectrum policies that support new entrants into the market will allow consumers to have a choice so if AT&T or Verizon are screwing you, go someplace else and give your money to someone who cares.
CBRS is what you should be looking at.
Angel Green
this is one of the stupidest comics I've ever seen. That's literally what happens right now. Netflix is like 75% of the bandwidth on college campuses, yet Netflix doesn't pay any more than jo schmo for access to the ISP bandwidth
Jackson Thomas
this literally will not happen. NN didn't even fucking exist more than a couple years ago
Owen Torres
One thing you have to factor in, your understanding of whats going on.
Companies like AT&T have 10-20 year plans. Floors of lawers of all types solving problems and planning contingencies with the sole purpose of achieving their goals.
The public on NN right now is all knee-jerk MSM clouded hoopla.
AT&T is the evil empire trying to strike back. They used to be the only game in town not too long ago. They want to be again, surrounded by a cloud of confusion the public has no understanding of.
Oh, and they are working with the CIA, since 2013, if you did not already know that.
Camden Wilson
Watch a movie at 30fps then watch the same movie at 60fps Come back and say you didn't see any difference
Brayden Gray
>food analogy
USA
Parker Young
Micheal O'Rielly does work for the CIA. He was planted there BO.
Easton Baker
4k video is going to clog the hell out of our tubes expecting ISPs to treat that traffic equally to my mom checking her emails makes me fear that millenials have adopted the selfish boomer brain
Ryder Gutierrez
What about when NN goes away and they can ban any website they want. Like people start paying them to shut down all right wing nut job sides government says Sup Forums is bad so has all isps block it.
Wyatt Reyes
type dailystormer.com into your url bar
Christian Perry
>Oh, and they are working with the CIA, since 2013, if you did not already know that.
AT&T and the CIA have been working together for FOUR YEARS!?!?!?
NO FUCKING WAY I BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
Adrian Thompson
Without net neutrality, there will never be a better search engine, streaming service, video platform, etc. The winners have been chosen.
Jack Jones
>What about when NN goes away and they can ban any website they want. Like people start paying them to shut down all right wing nut job sides government says Sup Forums is bad so has all isps block it.
except net neutrality doesnt do anything to protect freedom of speech on the internet dipshit?
Adam Jackson
What is Net Neutrality?
Net Neutrality is the internet’s guiding principle: It preserves our right to communicate freely online.
Net Neutrality means an internet that enables and protects free speech. It means that ISPs should provide us with open networks — and shouldn’t block or discriminate against any applications or content that ride over those networks. Just as your phone company shouldn’t decide who you call and what you say on that call, your ISP shouldn’t interfere with the content you view or post online.
Without Net Neutrality, cable and phone companies could carve the internet into fast and slow lanes. An ISP could slow down its competitors’ content or block political opinions it disagreed with. ISPs could charge extra fees to the few content companies that could afford to pay for preferential treatment — relegating everyone else to a slower tier of service. This would destroy the open internet.
Liam Bennett
>Without net neutrality, there will never be a better search engine, streaming service, video platform, etc. The winners have been chosen.
the same corporations that dominated streaming, search, and voip are the same corporations that did so before NN, during NN, and will do so after NN.
What part of NN can alter our existing situations and why has it not done so already?
How would keeping NN ensure we get 'better' services?
talking out your ass son.
Grayson Morris
i mean no? NN protects exactly that? they can charge whatever they feel like for any website and could be put under things such as fines. its like when you pirate a bunch of shit for a week and they bump your bill up like 20 dollars and ask you to stop. except without NN they juts fine you 300 for Sup Forums and there is nothjing you can do.
Noah Smith
Because NN lets a small business start up if not for NN things like twitch and newer voip would not have been able to happen cause the ones that came before them could pay to cut there band with.
Jacob Jackson
Oh and before NN came along some company's where already trying to do the shit they say they will not do if it is removed.
Lucas Thompson
>What is Net Neutrality? >Net Neutrality is the internet’s guiding principle: It preserves our right to communicate freely online.
Really? NN did not exist when the internet was created or during its golden age of expansion NN has only existed for the last couple years, during the worst era of conglomeration and censorship of the internet!
>Net Neutrality means an internet that enables and protects free speech. It means that ISPs should provide us with open networks — and shouldn’t block or discriminate against any applications or content that ride over those networks. Just as your phone company shouldn’t decide who you call and what you say on that call, your ISP shouldn’t interfere with the content you view or post online.
thats a nice way of saying the consumer should subsidize netflix's 2/3 of all internet traffic and telecoms should be forced to build CDNs for the 'too big too fail' edge providers's data for free.
>Without Net Neutrality, cable and phone companies could carve the internet into fast and slow lanes. An ISP could slow down its competitors’ content or block political opinions it disagreed with. ISPs could charge extra fees to the few content companies that could afford to pay for preferential treatment — relegating everyone else to a slower tier of service. This would destroy the open internet.
ISPs can already do this and current NN laws do not prevent it in any way.
please go actually read the documents and not puff pieces on salon.com
Robert Bailey
there are more things than "better services" that NN protects us from you know.
>i mean no? NN protects exactly that? they can charge whatever they feel like for any website and could be put under things such as fines. its like when you pirate a bunch of shit for a week and they bump your bill up like 20 dollars and ask you to stop. except without NN they juts fine you 300 for Sup Forums and there is nothjing you can do.
wew lad
ISPs do not charge you more for pirating, they charge you for going over your data cap.
ISPs can not ban websites anymore successfully than they could the pirate bay. learn2internet.
if ISPs even tried, their attempts would be half-baked, easy to circumvent, and just spur growth of VPNs and other internet privacy industries.
Cameron Bailey
Why did they take down thepiratebay and dailystormer? Isnt NN supposed to prevent that?
Noah Clark
>there are more things than "better services" that NN protects us from you know.
Oh wow, it provides such great benfits as "MORE THINGS"? I hope you get docked during your performance review for the quality of that shill posts.
ISPs *and* edge providers are BOTH complicit with the US government in spying on the american people.
they are both guilty of that and net neutrality does nothing to fight it.
so what was your point suppose to be? besides trying to focus negative attention solely on ISPs while google/facebook/etc are bigger corporations, and thus bigger threats.
Brayden Jones
This is correct. Also isps should be able to charge companies like Netflix a fee to help construct the infrastructure that will allow this to happen.
