Was Kira really an effective villain in comparison to all the other side villains we saw in part 4...

Was Kira really an effective villain in comparison to all the other side villains we saw in part 4? Or was he weak when it comes to the big villains of JoJo overall?

yea he was pretty good

His sexy dad game was on point, and that's all that matters.

I've read that text somewhere before. If only I was motivated enough to think about it more.

He looks better with the black hair, though.

Killer Queen did nothing wrong.

>Kira didnt win
>we will NEVER have yoshikage family slice of life

Anyone who loses with a power like BtD is just a full on autist.

>tfw no SOL about how Shinobu's constant handjobs allow Kira to live a peaceful life without blowing up sluts
>tfw no European holiday arc where they go to the Louvre


>needs a non-Stand User to activate
>can't protect yourself from attacks while it's activated
>anime Kira doesn't know when Josuke and Co. are actually going to explode

Bite the Dust has some pretty legit weaknesses, especially when you don't have the time to find out how it actually works.

The theater shooter

He was shit, He might killed one of Jotaro's crew in part 3 at best, but he would've gotten obliterated right after. Vanilla Ice level without the immortal user.

Kira's a smooth motherfucker and only less entertaining than part 1 Dio so that's saying a lot

The man looks like David Bowie,has a hand fetish,has a stand that's a pink catman,said stand can allahu akbar things,has a second ability that's a mixture of a tank a homing landmine and a roomba,has the power to FUCKING GO BACK IN TIME,accidentally saved a marriage,almost killed the entire cast once and has a goddamn catplant that shoots air bubbles which he turns to invisible bombs.

have i made my point yet OP ?

>no space after commas
>space question mark
Shoo shoo dirty European

He wasn't effective, but he had a lot of luck and a literal guardian angel, which made him fearsome.

I would have liked if Araki played the mistery surrounding him a little more, make their chase of Kira a little more like a detective/noir stand story, because Kira's forte and main motivation was hiding it.

I liked his final fight more than Dio's final fight, but to be fair Dio's fight was overall better. If you compare him with Pucci, Valentine and Diego he doesn't shine that much in his final fight, but invisible bombs were sick.

Kira only lost because he had to face Hayato, an even bigger autist and ballsiest JoJo character ever. I wish he were in Jojolion.

I think he's cool, I just wish he managed to kill someone in the main crew.

Saving Okuyasu after he'd been vaporised was a massive arsepull but it made me feel better than giving Kira a good villain point would have.

He could've killed Jotaro or Koichi in Sheer Heart Attack. It's not like either of them did much after that anyway (well, ignoring later parts at least).

And I fucking love Okuyau's asspull revival, no way would I want to take that out.

For a guy with no weaknesses he sure had a lot of weaknesses

But damn was he fun

Was he supposed to be clown-ish? Because that's what I got from him.

The "no weaknesses" was for Sheer Heart Attack and to be honest, I think it's a pretty reasonable assumption to make. It's a very strong ability.

fuck off edgelord
Not to mention, he killed shigechi

I think the real question is, how did Kira go unnoticed for so long when he did really stupid things with the hands in the first place?

This. I was happy when he killed that faggot Rohan. But then he revived because of time loop asspull bullshit.

Shigechi doesn't count as someone in the main crew. ANd how am I an edgelord for thinking it might be better that a serial killer actually succeeds at killing some dudes?

>Bite the Dust has some pretty legit weaknesses, especially when you don't have the time to find out how it actually works.

Every weakness can be prevented by not shouting your name out loud in the street like an autist.

Shigechi was literally introduced in order for Kira to kill someone, no one cares about him

>dies literally one arc after he's introduced
>exacty same thing happens to Aya right after Shigechi's death
At least the anime gave us some breathing room before his death.

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Kira's probably the most well-rounded villain aside from Pucci or Valentine.

I mean, what's his competition?

>Dio starts out with flaws in Phantom Blood, but then just loses pretty much all of his fun traits and quirks in Stardust Crusaders.
>Diavolo is just "reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee no one must find out who i am ever" with no details given about him to make you care. (Doppio was funny, though)
>Kars is an even more boring Perfect Cell.

>well-rounded villain
Those are boring.

His stand might not be as OP as other villain stands (apart from Bites the Dust which has major flaws like leaving him defenseless) but he was good at playing hide and seek.

Have Kira kill Koichi and then instead of him stopping Kira's hand from activating BtD, it's Okuyasu.

And then have Okuyasu also be the one that starts part 5.

Would have been hilarious if he had knocked up Shinobu before he died and the child inherited Killer Queen.

>a villain with actual depth that makes him understandable and thereby more terrifying is boring
>DIO just being evil because he's evil and being completely unrelatable is interesting

Considering he has no great ambition and simply wishes to lead a calm life while murdering woman he is fairly terrifying since he wouldn't be making people go after him normally.

His powers are fairly good too. If you don't know how the stand works, a single punch barrage is enough to fuck you over if he touches you with his right hand, and if that's not enough bite the dust can be used to reverse time and allow him a chance to counter what happens. Assuming there is a normal person nearby for him to use.

Sheer heart attack is also extremely dangerous. Some stands could probably stop it like Koichi's but most don't seem to fit the criteria to do so.

Anyone with a lighter can suvive Shear Heart Attack

>Use lighter
>SHA blows up whatever you light
>You run out of nearby flammable objects, or don't manage to get away from one in time.

That's assuming you managed to figure out that it tracks heat. Jotaro and Koichi were lucky that shop owner made coffee, others might not have that assistance.

Fucking asspull marysue piece of shit villain.

Dont talk about my husbando like that

He's a perfect antagonist in theory but after the anime all of the plot holes became more obvious that he wasn't as good in practice as we previously thought.

There is no way he actually said that.

Sheer Heart Attack presumably moves rather fast and it's invisible if you aren't a stand user.

The only reason Jotaro and Koichi were able to figure out its weaknesses were because of timestop, sheer luck with finding out that it tracks heat, and Echoes leveling up in time to make a hard counter.

Without a way of immobilizing it, it really has no weakness.

Except for maybe a hot day. Good thing Japan doesn't have hot days!

>Okuyasu chillin with the VA gang
Fuck.. I want that

If it was hot enough that the pavement was over body temperature then SHA would basically nuke Morioh's road infrastructure because it doesn't stop until it kills a human.

Although given the intelligence of background characters in Jojo, someone would probably drive straight down that road that's exploding towards them and end it early.

I love Narancia!

If there weren't other stand users in Morioh, then literally no one could stop him or even have any reason to. At least every other villain leaves evidence behind when they kill people. With Kira, no one even knows that anyone's been murdered.

I really like Kira as a villain because he's just got so much style. The way he nonchalantly blows up that one dude from the train was great. So casually, effortlessly. I like part 4 in general the most so far (reading part 5 now), even though there was so much wasted potential in it.

Shigechi was an incredibly popular character in Japan when P4 first debuted, kinda invalidates the 'no one cares about him' argument

Sheer Heart Attack is strong as fuck when looking at the series as a whole.
It's just that 3 of the main cast of DiU could hard-counter it (Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi), and 1 of them can soft-counter it (Jotaro)

Wait, I'm losing my mind, who's Aya again?

Facelift lady

Oh yeah

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>that's the joke.PNG

Piss off Fugo! Your stand sucks

why didn't he just make a REALLY big bomb?

It's a big bomb
(4U)

Could Kira touch the dirt and make the whole Earth into a giant bomb?

he could probably make clouds/fog into bombs

Nah pretty sure that goes against stand range

Kira might be one of the most fucked up villains because he honestly believed that he was the hero in this story.

>that doujin where Kira lets himself get raped by various men before blowing them up with Killer Queen will never be animated

I wish dojins getting animated was a thing

I beleived it too.

>ifunny

>no Sol with Hayato and Kira
>Hayata will never awaken his stand
>No father/son murder adventures

why does everyone say bite za dust or something like that and not baitsa dasuto which it actually is?

it even has bait built in

Was Kira a gaijin with a Japanese name?

are they even in japan?

Yes?

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I wish he was a stand user. The kid was mentally stronger than like half of the stand users before him.

I was

Bite za dastu

Speaking of Aya, is it pretty much agreed upon that the girl in Kira's highschool photos from the Atom Heart Father arc was her?

>Was Kira really an effective villain in comparison to all the other side villains we saw in part 4?
He's the best written villain so far and by a lot. He's not some buff powerlevel supervillain, he's a regular guy who gets a ton of screentime dedicated to showing his personality and quirks. He's the only villain without an ambiguous world dominate goal too.

did everyone see in the last few scene of the last episode some of those background characters appear in one frame? like the mother and the baby that josuke flipped over?

and another thing if you see a vehicle coming why would you scream and crouch instead of getting out of the fucking way? I mean its not truck-kun which is invincible but still.

What makes you say that?

>buff powerlevel supervillain

Weren't the only buff main villains DIO and Kars?

Every villain after them is pretty slim.(except for fat valentine,but he wasn't buff)

Whats the point of BtD timelooping besides giving the person an extra chance to fix the future?

Blonde hair, blue eyes, VERY European face. I may be mistaken but I don't think Jojo, or at least part 4 really does the whole "make white people and say they're Japanese"

He was weak compared to other villains in terms of power level only. When it comes to being a good villain, I'd put him in the top three of all the main antagonists.

Funny Valentine.

>He's the only villain without an ambiguous world dominate goal too.
>dio just wanted to take over the joestar estate
>kars just wanted to be perfect
>pucci just wanted to see heaven or dio

It's a little disconcerting how Araki could write such a good serial killer. Everything from his little idiosyncrasies, his way of speech, his outward charm while at the same time being a disgusting individual on the inside. He's just a good fucking villain, by any measure.

Oh shit son didn't know someone made a new one

Because its goal is to hide Kira's identity. If the others had learned through a witness or something that someone exploded after talking to Hayato, they could use that to infer he's linked to Kira. Looping and then blowing up the person out of nowhere because fate removes all visibile ties to Kira.

Probably so that it's more difficult to make the connections between Kira, the one possessing BtD, and the victims investigating Kira.

Think of it this way, if it didn't reset time, observers would notice that these explosions are centered around Hayato and might be able to work around it. Once time is reset, the explosions are technically random, they just happen with no provocation regardless if Hayato is there or not.

I mean, there are probably better methods that are less bonkers than time looping, but it's cool so whatever

i wonder if araki will make a jojo a villain? and villain that will win im tired of half-cup full wins that villains get, or wins because the villain is not actually a villain.

>dio just wanted to take over the joestar estate
And became a vampire hellbent on terrorizing the world. And in part 3 its pretty clear he intends to fuck shit up once he's done destroying the Joestar family.
>kars just wanted to be perfect
So he could terrorize the world.

He's a meme, like everything in Jojo. The more memes attributed to a character the better the character is. That's about how it goes in this series. Realistically Kira was weak as fuck and outnumbered from the beginning and basically stood no chance against any singular character.

jojo doesn't follow the "blonde hair blues eyes means white person" anime trope, plus its the wrong shade of blonde (not the color of the flesh of a banana).

>And became a vampire hellbent on terrorizing the world
yeah because more powers means higher goal to set but without the mask he just wouldve been greedy.
>So he could terrorize the world.
when was that stated? that was just their assumption out of fear.

Valentine was fucking ripped. I remember Diavolo having some muscle too.

>He's a meme, like everything in Jojo.

Do you know how retarded you sound? Do you go around calling everything memes?

>basically stood no chance against any singular character.
>killed shigechi
>killed koichi before being super super asspulled to life
>killed okuyasu before super asspulled to life
>killed rohan

he only to really worry about jotaro and josuke

If we take away Josuke's close as fuck call heals Part 4 would end with
>Dead Koichi
>Dead Okuyasu (Though I give it a pass for his spiritual intervention)
>Possibly dead Jotaro
Imagine being just a highschooler and having to deal with the weight of all your close friends and family being brutally murdered.

and the girlfriend of your dead friend hating your guts and having to explain what happened to his mother and sister

>yeah because more powers means higher goal to set but without the mask he just wouldve been greedy.

Dio would never be satisfied, the narrator even makes it pretty fucking clear that nah, Dio's just pure evil.

Yes.