Do you believe in God?

Do you believe in God?

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Neither here nor there. Sort it out later.

Yes

Yup. Eventually got to a point where I couldn't honestly deny it any longer.

God is a jew and so is jesus

No.

pokemon did not evolve
they were created

Are you calling God an autist?

Yes, of course.

Of course I do

No. Don't see a reason to believe. Don't see any convincing evidence for it. The god of the bible seems too childish and is very likely not real.

Fuck no.

no belief required

Yes. I had a spiritual encounter 4 years ago that left me with no doubt that a conscious God exists and that the nature of God is pure love and pure reason.

Canadians are mostly atheists because Government is their god and they’re heavily indoctrinated into this death cult from birth

t. former atheist and former Canadian

Nothing matters.

Why would I? Just look at all the fucked up shit in the world, all the people born with twisted deformities and diseases, is this part of God's plan? What benevolent and just God would do that? My mother was just sent to a mental hospital, what kind of God give her life, and then take it away in one of the worst ways imaginable, having to watch her self suffer in agony before she dies? Why would I believe in God?

>former Canadian
Good lad

God doesn't necessarily dictate every last little thing that happens. Since when is this life called heaven? It's not.

Sorry about your mom m8. Watching people decay, suffer, and die isn't much fun.

Matt McMuscles is that you?

>Since when is this life called heaven? It's not.
Why not make this life heaven?
Surely an omnipotent god knew every single thing that would happen in this world. As he listed, diseases, deformities, etc.
Wouldn't an omnipotent all loving god not make a world in which this shit would happen?

If God isn't real then how come Butterfree evolves from Metapod and not Venonat?

Why would he make this world at all if he knew what was going to happen? Just because he can be all-knowing and all-powerful doesn't mean he is. That's all kind of rhetorical, but it just goes to show I think that logically it's hard to prove or disprove that god exists so easily.

Can you prove love logically? I think you'll find most people understand love without it, just like the kind of people who say that they justs know or have faith that God is real.

God is real and He sent His Son to die for us on the cross.

Trust and follow Jesus Christ to have eternal life in His name.

Why do people need an experience to realise God exists? I came to that conclusion just by using my fucking brain. Meditation did help though.

Check mate, atheists

>when a leaf transcends the power of the rake
Godspeed user.

God is self evident. It take many years of >education to become an atheist.

yes

I believe I fucked your mother last night faggot.

>Because without any actual proof for or against, 'using your brain' is a retarded argument.

Belief in god requires faith. Faith cannot be beat into a person with logic or force of will, people must find it their own way. In this sense faithless often need an event to spark their faith. What is hard to understand about that?

Yea

I'm an agnostic teetering on Christianity but still filled with doubts.

Can you explain to me how you came to conclusion beyond shadow of a doubt of His existence?

Yeah

no

read the Silmarillion by JRR Tolkien for a better understanding of what happened to gods plan and why this world can be so shitty

i know god exists, no faith required- it's been proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt

When I was young and edgy. I believed God was a lie, and the world as I understood it real. Now I am old and I know God is real and the world as most of you understand it, is the lie.

>Belief in god requires faith
Faith is for retarded christcucks hoping to get a reward for believing in skydaddy
No use searching in established religion for answers, although they all do contain a kernel of truth.

I came to that conclusion primarily because of the sheer impossibility of this (the universe) exploding out of nothing. Nothing cannot ever become something, the same way something cannot ever become nothing (law of conservation of energy). Logically speaking, this means that there is a place or time where CAN become nothing, which is what we call the big bang. That place or time, although I now believe it is above time and space, is what I call God. The creator, the alpha and the omega, the I AM.

>where CAN become nothing
where nothing CAN become something*

If God is truly omnipotent and omniscient, then why make anything negative at all? Why not make a world that was all positive? And don't give me these elementary school explanations that "oh well we need the good with the bad" because that's bullshit and you know it. If God is real then he turned his back on us a long time ago, not the other way around.
>God doesn't necessarily dictate every last little thing that happens.
Then there is no God. I want to to listen and try to carefully understand. Growing up in the south I was raised around people who weren't truly religious but still tried to conform to the pressures they were surrounded by. Of course, they are / were blue pilled hypocrites but because religion is heavily implied they feel they have to conform even if only just. This hypocrisy was very confusing for a young me. I grew up being sent to church alone, to being a teenager becoming an atheist thinking I had it all figured it out, to more or less becoming agnostic or gnostic, saying it is not my place to say if there isn't or is a God, and now I have come full circle. I am not like some who are militantly atheist fedora tipping edgelords, but I see less reason to believe in any God day after day. Face it, either there is no God, or there is and he never gave two shits about any of us.

Looks like you like children?

And what was it that convinced you?

No.

Sorry if this sounds lame to you, but if you buy in to the notion of something that is more powerful and more knowing than the human mind can comprehend, then you can't assume that humans would understand exactly what the grand plan is.

Frankly I don't want to be alive. I think it's all just endless suffering, and I don't really get why people call life a "gift" even though I accept that a lot of people look at it that way. So I'm not going to go that route with you.

What I will say is that I believe free will exists, I was convinced that there is a whole hell of a lot more to reality than humans normally perceive before I got faith, and that my guess is that this life really is kind of a test or maybe just a growing-up process that leads toward whatever happens when we die.

Dumbass

Something may have created everything, but he is not a bearded man, nor an elephant headed man or whatever, looking at each of us from the sky.

Yes.

I already had a nagging feeling based on feelings, not being able to refute the arguments, and just too many things that happened to me to all just be coincidence.

I'm not going to go into the exact details but eventually I threatened God, if he did exist, and promised I wouldn't kill myself and to take care of my family if he got me out of a certain impossible situation. I later learned you're not supposed to do that 'cause God is going to smack you around for thinking you're so special. I can't deny the resulting personal experiences, and I can't deny that now I'm on the hook to have to stay alive and take care of my family - God has quite the sense of humor.

I'd love to think there is a God or at least something else out there ( a la engineers from Prometheus). But I think it's all just wishful thinking and I can't believe in something that I don't.

I do, yea

>but if you buy in to
I don't though, the point I was trying to make was I didn't buy in to any such notion because how can you prove such a thing? But if I had to say, then I would say that there ISN'T something more powerful and more knowing.
>Frankly I don't want to be alive.
Neither do I.
>I believe free will exists
Good for you, that doesn't really have anything to do with what I mentioned though

>how can you prove such a thing
Well you can't. That's why they call it "faith" not "proof" and even if you think you know what's up today, tomorrow you'll probably look back and wonder why you were so wrong about it anyway. All the "proof" you really need that we don't understand what God is or why he did it is that we can't prove it one way or the other.

As for the free will thing, I think that's absolutely central to what you decide to believe. If you believe that you can decide what to believe, then you believe in free will. If you believe in free will, then you believe that if there is a God that he gave us free will. And if we have free will, then we can make good decisions or bad decisions, and then we have to live in a reality where there are good consequence and bad consequencies, i.e. a world where nothing is perfect and where there will be pain, suffering, and things that are unfair.

Yes. You can't be a scientist if you're not humble.

Sweet cheeks, you've got lots to learn.

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You really are a dumbass

And your a leaf, that's makes me the better man.

No, but I hate today's fedora atheists more than believers.

free will and decisions have fuck all to do with naturally occurring diseases, deformities and illnesses be they physical or mental. That's what you don't seem to understand and instead get stuck on the whole free will thing for some reason. There is no God.

No.

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I'm not here to convince you whether there is a God or not. Obviously if you decide that there isn't then you're not going to be open to the possibility that there is. Just like people who decide that God is real tend to be impossible to convince that there is no God.

I'm just saying from a logical perspective that your argument isn't valid. You don't know what caused that disease. What does "natural causes" mean? That God did it? That reality is just fucked up and we have no idea what caused what, and therefore we don't know if it's our fault or not?

All I'm saying is free will means it's even more unprovable because then the universe isn't just a big computer simulation.

yes, but not in a biblical fashion. I believe in higher beings and a potential creator.
The Universe is more fascinating than scripture

Based

i lean atheist pretty hard and could btfo any theist but i still accept maybe a 1% possibility we were created by something that didn't want us to think it created us but im still 99% sure no

when i was a teenager i was big time into christian apologetic and even debated people like thunderf00t and TAA back in 2008

the fact is though, they are right. there is no God and all religions are false

There are more Christians in Canada than whites in america

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there are more christians on the isle of mann than whites in america

I've decided nothing, what I'm saying is based on what little evidence I'm given (or rather none) there is no I can find reason for me or anyone else to believe in any God.

>I'm just saying from a logical perspective that your argument isn't valid.

How christian of you. It's a bit ironic that you're the one claiming I'm being illogical, don't you think?

>You don't know what caused that disease.
It was God, he created everything, remember?

Either he created all of this or none of it, you can't pick and choose.

>All I'm saying is free will means it's even more unprovable because then the universe isn't just a big computer simulation.

You don't know that either.

"The earth is the LORD's, and everything in it. The world and all its people belong to him."

I believe in a God
Christianity in its current iteration is dumb as shit and part of the reason Europe and the US is flooded with shitskins. Islam is definitely stupid as shit as a religion as well for obvious reasons and the Jewish faith is a satanic cult of scum.
My theory is pretty simple: If god is so all powerful and beyond our understanding how can a mere human interpret and record his words? Simple answer is they cant. They simply cant. Every religious book(The Bible, The Quran, The Torah) is simply blasphemy for attempting to tell others what Gods word is. If there is a god which I believe there is, I think the only thing I can do is live a good, honest life. When I die I will face God myself and face his judgment

I think it's probably beside the point compared to figuring out what to do with the life you've got, whether you want it or not.

Best of luck, m8, and I think you're on the right path being honest with yourself and not just believing in something without really believing it.

Yes.

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Which one, my dude?

You don't need to believe in god. people like atheists' talk about god they have no idea what it actually is.

wow an actual agnostic by definition

Lolno. Do you think I'm fucking stupid?

I thought agnostics didnt believe in God but dont deny that he could exist

Which one?

That's a complicated question, it depends on what you mean by god. You see, it helps no one to be reductive. I believe that, that we are here implies to some degree that there are forces larger than us. Now, we can get into the cementicality, the very notion of belief itself can be rhetorically whittled to the very bare knob of its meaning. I'd like to talk to you more about this, would you be interested in reading some of my literature?

Eh I've come to the realization that it makes sense to believe in some kind of "Greater Power" that has set things in motion. If the idea of heaven makes you doubt, what is the negative to believe? If there isn't then well you won't know, but if there is then you get a comfy ass place to see all your old pets you took to the vet to get euthanized and meet your great great great great grandfathers, etc. So why not, eh?

Yes I do believe in a spiritually superior entity.
It's logical if you think about it.

God doesn't require belief you just have to be smart enough to find "him"
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