Should Automation be Banned?

>1817
>mine employs thousands

>2017
>mine is run by 3 computer operators

>1817
>Oil fields take up loads of workers

>2017
>oil can be done with a few machines and supervisors

>1817
>farming employs 99.5% of population

>2017
2% of population are farmers

Does no one see the problem? Where the jobs be at?

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why don't you become amish you sack of shit

I'm going to build a cabin in the woods in western Montana and just get away from all of this shit

Then should we ban sex dolls too? It's technically wife automation.

the population is supposed to get smarter and do more complicated jobs while the computers do the simple jobs

it's just that no government ever changed the education to reflect that

Of course. The more government regulation of business, the better.

So you want to work on a farm or in a mine?

>As long there is man, there will be jobs
Anyone over IQ over 100 can compete against automation
Pros eliminates brainlets and shitskins
Whites are creative, Asians are not

Without automation, humanity cannot reach the stars. The greater good must prevail and therefore the majority of humans that can't compete will stay on Earth while a few make it to space.

>Does no one see the problem?
Many see the problem but telling companies to hire humans when computers and robots can do the same job has and will continue to fall on deaf ears.

>Where the jobs be at?
Being performed by computers, robots, and cheap immigrate labor. When a computer/robot is not suited for the job a 3rd worlders will fill the gap.

The days of paying overpriced 1st worlders to do jobs that a computer, robot, or immigrate can do for a fraction of the cost are over.

this

Shut the fuck up little shit

>education
>intelligence
You can't educate someone smart, you're either genetically intelligent or you're not

I'd like that option

The unlucky ones.

I still think automation is still an over hyped meme. There's no point in hiring a team of engineers each making six figures to build expensive robots to do a job some middle class people can do. Plus the maintenance, issues, glitches means a six figure team has to remain around. And in the end these robots can only take care of the easy jobs.

Unions killed the majority of solid paying jobs.

I respect you for being an open minded republican

Red herring fallacy.

How.

Google the Luddites.

You're welcome.

Because you're missing the point. Even if you think machines will never take over beccause of glitches and cost. The question is because productivity is becoming more and more efficient while human labour remains the same what does that mean for the job market?

>1600s is the same as 2000s
You trolling?

No. Machines exist to make drudgery unnecessary. Not automating leads to frustrated society.

to be fair, it's subjective.

American unions, for the most part, worked. it wasn't until we allowed offshoring of jobs and automation started that the good jobs started drying up.

Meanwhile in England, their unions basically DID kill their entire car industry.

>oh no now we don't need to do manual labor
How is this not a good thing?

>memeflag

Sage

No jobs, you forced into welfare, eventually weflare dries because no tax money, starvation.

Not a red herring, this is actually a major chokepoint in automation overtaking human labor - humans are universally cheaper. Making a machine that can take over a single job requires thousands of man-hours and millions of dollars in development, and until Skynet comes online, those machines require constant maintenance and debugging by human operators. We're still a decade or so away from "true" AI, which is when we'll start to see machines dominate the service industry, but the bottom line is computers can't program themselves and robots can't build themselves.

IMO, manual labor jobs requiring mobility (eg construction) are safe bets for staying in human hands. The low-education service jobs will be the first to go, but frankly that's been an inevitability since the first microchip was designed, doubt there's anything to be gained by fighting progress on this front. Gotta ride the waves, user.

I own a gold mine. Without automation, we wouldn't be competitive with African slave miners, and our employees (far more than three) would be unemployed.

the presupposition here is that 100% employment is a fundamental need of a functional society. I would argue that is not only untrue but also detrimental to the communal well-being of a society

>there is literally no alternative to being employed by a corporation

>the population is supposed to get smarter and do more complicated jobs while the computers do the simple jobs

except the rate at which machines take jobs will outpace the rate at which humans can adapt to more complicated labor. not only that but A.I. and automation will eventually render all human labor valueless as there will be no task a machine cannot do better than a human

>You can't educate someone smart, you're either genetically intelligent or you're not
You need to be absolutely braindead to believe in complete genetics determination and calvinism
Please stop argumenting.

you're confusing automation and artificial intelligence. automation replaces manual and repetitive labor. AI replaces 'mental' labor and is what stands to threaten the middle class. even highly skilled workers like lawyers and doctors are already seeing AI solutions creeping into their field

>Making a machine that can take over a single job requires thousands of man-hours and millions of dollars in development

you think jobs get automated one at a time? INDUSTRIES get automated. how many drivers will be put out of a job due to automated cars compared to how many engineers designed them? tens of millions vs tens of thousands. its not even close

It puts niggers out of jobs and if tax cuts are passed they don’t get welfare thus stunting their population growth entirely. White people would thrive due to higher skills in programming as well as being able to innovate new technologies creating new jobs progressing our race further.

>flag
What

Yes.
Trump should ban automation.

All hail our robot overlords

I expect 19th century style social unrest and upheavel when automation properly kicks in. My only fear is that commies use it to come back big.

>computers can't program themselves

We're computers. We program computers. Therefore a computer can program a computer. You're extremely wrong.

>more automation than ever
>also more jobs than ever

I wouldn't worry OP.

Technology destroys jobs, but always ends up creating new ones too.

"App Developer" wasn't even a job 10 years ago, for example, but now you got thousands of schmucks making a living off it, and some even becoming quite rich doing it.

>2017
>mine is run by 3 computer operators
>price of iron ore drops
>price of goods made from iron ore drops
>former mine workers who've reskill for work in alternative industries can now afford more with the same paycheck
You can't seriously be arguing against productivity, can you? Steady technological improvement is why we in the west now longer fear starvation and can all afford the latest iphone.

The problem is that we have now started letting the benefits of improved productivity flow to kike banks and shitskin gibs, instead of the productive classes.

>reposting exactly the same OP image and OP post.

wew lad.

Are you retarded?
Without automation we literally wouldn't be on 4 chan right now.

Are you comparing a human to a computer. Are you stupid? And if you don't want automation go live in North Africa.

Remember folks. In 1817 these laborers capital was far less then that it is currently in 2017. Sure the mine would have hundreds of employees. But they wouldnt be that well off earning apittance. Meanwhile machine operaters require being full educated and trained and earn much more for it

What if the majority of the population is not capable of learning the skills needed to perform those jobs?

where the jobs be at is in the fields where you gotta you mental skills instead of hoping the days where you could make a living growing potatoes come back, you fuckin caveman.

Impossible since human mean intelligence doesn't just magically increase, especially when you import brain dead third worlders. Automation is steaming ahead at a pace that far outsrips the human ability to compete.

I probably should have been more clear I was referencing an AI programming itself. Fundamentally when it gets down to it, an AI and a human are literally the same thing.

Automation is welcome.
Labor shortages in my country.

So people share the remaining jobs that exist/that they are smart enough for. And since more people are working those jobs then we are free to work fewer hours and devote more time towards whatever other pursuits we might enjoy. All while enjoying the same standard of living due to the reduced prices flowing from automation cutting labour costs.

Other than a top drive most rigs are still labor intensive,
States like Kansas still use spinning chains.