Jesus was a communist

Jesus was a communist.

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>charity is the same as communism
retard

That's why the rich were damned to hell.

Ah, no. He was a humanitarian and a anarchist.

Communism believes In a strong central state, destruction of all personal identity, personal property rights and servitude to a oligarchy and their masters. That is about as far from the original church as you can get.

Now the pharisee's and sadjucees ? Those guys were pro communist and pro Roman occupation

do you even know what communism is?

Jesus was a capitalist.

Jesus was a communist.

No he wasn't. Jesus didn't kill over 100 million people when he was alive.

>anarchist
Jesus is Monarchist.
He's the King

>the pharisees were pro roman occupation
what the fuck are you on about you faggot hohol orthodog
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Jewish–Roman_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitos_War
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt
>Massive civilian casualties with some areas utterly annihilated, 460,000+ Roman citizens (largely Roman Greeks) killed in Cyrene and Cyprus alone and unknown numbers in Aegyptus, Libya and the rest of the Eastern Mediterranean

Jesus believed in equality. I don't think he would support forced redistribution of wealth. "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's"
Make an argument, fag, instead of repeating your OP

And a jew. He was also a zombie at one point and I think his own dad as well.

Jesus never forced any belief on another, therefore not a commie.

/thread

>"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's

Jesus was not a communist.

Luke 3:11
Jesus was a communist.

Jesus was God on Earth. He represents an ideal unachievable by humanity, Institutions of Man are fallible and will lead to destruction when power is left unchecked. Socialism/ communism creates a vector for unchecked government power and in is therefore evil.

sorry but did you read

>Communism has caused even more deaths than previously thought

>Containment Threads in a nutshell

Acts 2:44-45

Charity =/= forced redistribution of wealth

If Christianity is "the enemy of Jewry", then Jews don't need any friends. "Based Christian" Charlemagne, the father of Europe according to Christians, for killing pagan saxons, gave Jews their economical power
> Charlemagne (800–814) readily made use of the Church for the purpose of infusing coherence into the loosely joined parts of his extensive empire, by any means a blind tool of the canonical law. He employed Jews for diplomatic purposes, sending, for instance, a Jew as interpreter and guide with his embassy to Harun al-Rashid. Yet, even then, a gradual change occurred in the lives of the Jews. The Church forbade Christians to be usurers, so the Jews secured the remunerative monopoly of money-lending. This decree caused a mixed reaction of people in general in the Frankish empire (including Germany) to the Jews: Jewish people were sought everywhere, as well as avoided. This ambivalence about Jews occurred because their capital was indispensable, while their business was viewed as disreputable. This curious combination of circumstances increased Jewish influence and Jews went about the country freely, settling also in the eastern portions. Aside from Cologne, the earliest communities were established in Mainz, Worms, Speyer, and Regensburg.[15]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany#From_Rome_to_the_Crusades

Their christian "punishment" against the "evil jews" was to receive a lucrative financial monopoly of "sinful high financing that no christians shall ever benefit from" and to move to the next country to fleece when the peasants got too riled up.

> Around 400, St Augustine, one of the most influential and foundational figures of Catholic theology, preached that the Jews must be protected for their ability to explain the Old Testament.
> Jews must be protected for their ability

> Pope Gregory the Great (c 540–604) brought Augustine's teachings into Roman Law, by writing a Papal Bull which became the foundation of Catholic doctrine in relation to the Jews and specified that, although the Jews had not accepted salvation through Christ, and were therefore condemned by God until such time as they accept salvation, Christians were nevertheless duty-bound to protect the Jews as an important part of Christian civilization.[6
> While a "persecuting spirit" often existed among the general population through the Middle Ages, Jewish communities often had to turn to the Holy See for protection.[7] Papal Bulls reiterating the duty of protection were issued by various Popes,

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Judaism#Antisemitism

Christians protecting Jews is not a "corruption of Christianity", all the way back to St Augustine Jews were seen as part of Christianity. That is why Jews never had to leave Europe even when they were constantly expelled numerous times from every kingdom by angry farmers. Papal edicts helped them move to the next kingdom and eventually get back to the first one.

> but muh synagogue of Satan

The only result of Christian "enemty" against Jews was giving them an absolute monopoly over high finances, and protecting them from angry farmers.

And how can it be otherwise? If Jews are the enemies of Christianity, the synagogue of Satan, then it is the duty of Christians to love them and protect them, "love your enemies and provide them with help" was clearly said by both Jesus and Paul, and the early christians like Saint Augustine openly agreed

> inb4 Turning the other cheek does not mean pacifism. Letting someone else slap your face with the back of his hand was a form of social rebellion back then

no it wasn't. that shit was made up by radical black-nationalist liberal theologist Walter Wink to justify social rebellion in South Africa.

There are NO sources to it outside his books, nothing of what Josephus wrote about life in the ancient Middle East mentions anything close to offering the cheek or giving to your enemies your coat being an insult to them.


In the Greek-Roman world, love meant "common feeling of mutual interest born out of shared experiences"

Early Christians expanded it to a commandment of loving people that we don't know, that we don't care about, just so that we can fill ourselves with misguided pride about how we are friends of mankind itself
Agape never has conveyed any sort of violent or agressive implication, as some Sup Forumslacks imply

Among christian writers it has always meant means "a selfless love that is passionately committed to the well-being of others", no implication of tough love whatsoever
see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape#Christianity

Christian semantics are enough of a mess as they are, and then Sup Forums christians wanna add an extra layer of absurdity and mental masturbation: That is where the schizophrenia of right-wing christians kicks in
Only a christian could claim something as absurd as love for his enemies

Only a right-wing christian could take that absurdity to the next level by killing his enemies while declaring his love for them. So here they want us to believe that the Crusaders loved every single damn person that they slaughtered in Constantinople
Because, according to Sup Forums christians, Love is not about shared interest, it is about telling to yourself "how I love that guy" right before cutting his head off (mental masturbation, really)

dude, if you wanna hate your enemies, just do that, and stop mentally masturbating about how better and so much more heaven-deserving you are than your enemies because you somehow declared that you loved him while killing him

voanews.com/a/orthodox-patriarch-refugees/3287495.html

> Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual leader of Orthodox Christians, is urging Europe to stop trying to divide what he calls economic migrants from asylum seekers.
> Bartholomew is scheduled to visit the Greek island of Lesbos on Saturday along with Pope Francis, and Athens Archbishop Ieronymos, the head of the Church of Greece, to raise awareness about the troubled state of refugees and migrants in Europe.
> The symbolic visit is intended to reiterate the Christian moral duty to show hospitality to strangers, Bartholomew said in an interview published Friday. He added that countries in Europe should find inspiration in the generosity shown by Lesbos residents.
> Illegal immigrants make 10 % of the population of Greece

daily reminder that the orthodox patriarchs are exactly the same shit of other christians, and they have repeatly condemned right wing movements like Golden Dawn

But why would it be otherwise?

Christianity rejects all wordly concerns altogether, and right wing concerns ARE wordly concerns

Christian Morality attacks the foundations of the monarchy and capitalism, thus its spirituality is left-wing

Jesus saying that for the rich, powerful, strong (i.e. a monarch) it is almost impossible to go to Heaven, while the poor will inherit the Earth, you have a recipe for spiritual marxism that will become the real deal as soon as the Church losses its ability to prevent people from reading the Gospel directly
Under Christianity, a hobo is holier than the king, a beggar is holier than an entrepreneur, that contradiction can't last, and it didn't last

It is not an accident Europeans were the first people to violently remove their monarchs to replace them with utopian ideologies
it is not an accident either that every christian church outright rejects whatever version of "true Christianity" you may claim to be the truth.

The people devoted to the cult, working for it 24 / 7, spending their entire lives on it think that your interpretation makes no sense

They think that when Jesus and Paul said something they actually meant it, the people joining religious missions because the Gospel inspired them, the people that go to Africa and adopt babies, the people that actually wanna follow the lives of the early Christians like John Chrysostom (which you constantly claim is a "true Christian" because he didn't like jews, while ignoring everything else he ever said) and live a life of self-denial and poverty to feed others, people like Mother Teresa that lived surrounded by filth and excrement in India...

But you don't. You wanna pretend to be a christian while living a life of a roman
Jesus himself said that if you wanna be like a roman and love your friends and hate your enemies, then pretend to follow him, you are a hypocrite
What kind of argument can you even make to actual devoted christians that go on missions to Congo and India and even DIE for it, to tell them that their version of Christianity is corrupted and damaged by jews?

Right Wing politics are concerned with the long-term survival of Civilization
But Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven; this is also why more modern christians like Martin Luther said (I quote):
- "it is the duty of a Christian to suffer injustice, not to seize the sword and take to violence" - Martin Luther

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep"...

... he isn't kidding, or meaning the opposite, but setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical
While christian churches seem to be very well of this (including orthodox leader Patriarch Bartholomew), Sup Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven for the persecuted, the meek, and the martyred would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth", "my kingdom is of this world" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"
Only some one that just wanna use Christianity as an empty shell devoid of any true religious promises would claim that Paul and Peter misinterpreted Jesus when they submitted to their enemies and died to them while praying for them, instead of fighting the romans back and establishing a crusader kingdom, thing that one would expect them to do if Jesus meant "be a fighter and impose your will on your enemies" when he said "love your enemies and lend all they need to them without expecting anything in return"

But using Christianity as a shell devoid of any religious promises simply allows its poisonous morality to survive into the next generation.
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "I didn't come to bring peace", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing what Jesus wanted is for them to put christian morality above the good-being of their own families.

You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because "Buy a sword", but you can't stop them from reading the next chapter and realizing that Jesus stopped Peter from using the sword to fight and defeat the romans, and reprimanded him for misunderstanding, all while asking him to carry his own cross (Peter, fully realizing that Jesus meant all the stuff about embracing death and his kingdom was not of this world, that angelic chariots were not going to slay his enemies and bring him victory, realized he was doomed, and would then deny Jesus 3 times)
You can tell your children that Jesus wanted them to be earthly warriors because ""Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces", but you can't stop them from reading the rest of the paragraph and realizing that Jesus was asking them, not to destroy their enemies, but to not put in risk their own moral position by criticizing others. You may want them to believe that Jesus, in the middle of a speech about not judging other people and sharing, suddenly decided that speak against the muslims that didn't even exist back then!

That is not going to fly.
Sooner or later, your "strict catholic crusader" state will be reformed into liberalism, because the Gospel will still exist, because your children, like Peter, will realize that Jesus meant it when he said "you are to be persecuted and martyred for me", that Jesus didn't say "you will live in a stable and powerful civilization, free of oppresion and death, thanks to me".

>151723440
Jesus was a Jewish king, killed for his heresy.

There is no "white genocide", what is really going is white suicide, with christian morality as its main driver. The abortion issue is a perfect example of white christians openly fighting against their own interests by wanting to increase the birthrates of blacks and other democrat sub-groups that do abort
Tell me: do you really believe that USA would be better off with twice as many blacks? (The entire South would be deep blue for starters)

That Jews took control of european finances and loaning and then global finances by proxy, is another example. If the Churches had not been issuing numerous edicts to give a monopoly of high financing to Jews, jews would have not become so powerful.

Support for Israel is a third way Christian Morality screws whites over, and it is far from a recent occurance or corruption. As early as 1600s, puritans already believed that a jewish Israel in the middle east was a prerequisite for the Apocalypse. As early as the 400s, Saint Augustine was calling Christians to defend the Jews,

Christianity does not allow for racial divisions among Christians either "there is no jew or greek" makes it quite clear. Citing Paul made extremely easy for the anti-segregation preachers of the 60s to get the majority of whites on their side
It also makes no historical sense, christian preachers from 1700s (before the supposed "jewish take over of Christianity") actively travelled to dangerous parts of Africa and South America to convert tribes even when it very often costed their own lives, and when they were converted they fought against conquerors for equal rights for the new christians (see: bartolome de las casas). Numerous preachers of all churches were massacred in Japan (which remains immune to the moral paralysis that is destroying Europe... really makes me think).

>paying to use Sup Forums

Literally all the followers of Jesus, and Jesus himself were kikes. Christianity didn't even have gentiles among its ranks until Saul (Paul) decided to spread it among gentiles 30 years later.
Among his followers there were many zealots, the most radical jews of them all, that wanted wars against Rome
Indeed, why would the pharisees be discussing mosaic law with a non-jew?

Never mind, what exactly did he denounce the pharisees for that makes him not a kike? Have you actually read the Gospel? Can you point to a single point Jesus made that would not be denounced as SJW, marxist and jewish by Sup Forums if it wasn't Jesus saying it?

There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to punish a slut!
There he denounces the rich pharisees and promises the earth to the meek and the poor!
There he denounces the pharisees for wanting to live, instead of embracing death like him!
There he denounces them over a disagreement on how Mosaic Law is applied!

You blindly may say "he disagreed with the kikes" as if that was something we needed to applaud!
The doctrine of the Jews worked well. Thousands of ethnic groups have disappeared yet Jews remain around. Jesus' attacks against Judaism are the same of Chomsky attacks against Zionism: jews that hate other jews, but following their ideas would allow Jews to control us.
I have to ask you "christians" of Sup Forums, what are these supposed teachings of Jesus that supposedly got corrupted by kikes? "Hate your enemies"? "Save treasures for tomorrow"? "DO resist evil"?
The opposite of everything Jesus said?
I mean really, is "but kikes killed Jesus" your only argument?

Muslims are hated by Jews as well, but Jews are smart enough to use them as a tool. The same way they use the insane anti-morality of Christianity to corrupt the ancient world and give themselves a privileged financial spot!

But if Jews don't like the own poison they created, that means that we shall drink it, according to you!
wtf I guess I love ISIS now!

James 5:1-6

No he wasnt, Jesus was against stealing.

Jesus exists only through clergy and toilet psper, burn toilet paper and jesus doesnt exist.

>The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty.

>people should be punished for being evil
>this is somehow communism
Write me a fucking sentence and we can talk but I'm not going to keep responding to mindless verse-citing

The rich aren't dammed to hell because they are rich, they are dammed to hell because they love the world they love the things in the world (material things) over the spiritual life and God.

They're not "damned to hell". Nobody is damned to hell by anyone besides themselves. In this life you choose whether you want evil or good and you are awarded appropriately.

Isaiah 53:9

"spiritual life" is a meaningless jewish concept, pure mental masturbation

by definition, if you are right-wing, you love the world, you don't wanna get a heavenly reward for suffering on this earth, you wanna get an earthly reward for you and your family and your civilization for destroying your enemies

While Jesus asks you to abandon everything, your wife, your children, your future, for him and his demented promise of an eternal life that does not exist

Shut up with the Jesus-bashing you damn dirty jew

t. communist

>jew
cheks out

You don't need to abandon anything to go to heaven. You just can't love it. Your love and your heart must be in the right place and that place is NOT in money or women or drugs. It's pretty simple and you know in your heart what is spiritually good and what is spiritually bad. You don't need a bible to tell you so.

The damned to hell, the "fake christians", are those that want happiness over suffering, eartjly life over heavenly promises, fight over surrender to your enemies, power over weakness, aka right-wingers

Saint Augustine:

> There are men who want to live a good life and have already decided to do so, but are not capable of bearing sufferings even though they are ready to do good.

> Now, it is a part of the Christian’s strength not only to do good works but also to endure evil!

> Weak men are those who appear to be zealous in doing good works but are unwilling or unable to endure the sufferings that threaten. Lovers of the world, however, who are kept from good works by some evil desire, lie sick and listless, and it is this sickness that deprives them of any strength to accomplish good works.

Being right-wing is the OPPOSITE of wanting to endure Evil. We wanna reject evil done to us, we wanna expel muslims, we wanna pay evil with evil, not with good acts as Paul suggested

We wanna live, we wanna prosper, we want our children not to suffer, not to be christians

We don't wanna lose the fight for this world in the name of a demented promise of heavenly riches

"Right wing" to me means traditional lifestyle non-degenerate. For example no sex before marriage, no homosexuals openly advocating what they do etc

You are severely misguided my friend.
Life is an endless wheel of karma, nirvana is the end of this wheel. To end evil you must use grace. To notice evil and rebuke it but to remain righteous yourself.

>You just can't love it. Your love and your heart must be in the right place and that place is NOT in money or women or drugs.

Demented, meaningles mental masturbation


Any religion that says "you must love this" or "your heart must do this", is asking his followers to mentally masturbate and convince themselves of think they don't actually feel

You can't decide to love, or not to love something. Love is a natural instinct born out of common experiences and shared interests


I mean really, so this rich man tells himself in his head "I don't love money". that is it? he can go to heaven now?

He was a dirty Jew

>Life is an endless wheel of karma, nirvana is the end of this wheel. To end evil you must use grace. To notice evil and rebuke it but to remain righteous yourself.

demented mental masturbation


Genghis Khan didn't receive any "karma" for pillaging the world. He died of old age like everyone does.

Yeah but he could make literal food materialize out of thin air so it wasn’t a big deal because nobody would starve to death like regular communists do.

Love is wanting what's best for someone that's it. If someone s dying of alcoholism your love would mean stopping them from drinking not buying them more drink and say let's all have a good time. The Bible says the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

Jesus considered tax collectors to be sinners. If you actually read the Bible you would know that.

You and I both know that saying something and meaning it are distinct from one another. You don't need to convince yourself that you feel or don't feel any certain way.
You will reap what you sow.

You are not understanding, and I see it is because you are very self-centered in your thinking. It is not the goal to receive good karma and avoid bad karma, but to ultimately end the cycle

the purpose of "not sex before marriage" is not to win a heavenly place, it is simply that women are more loyal the less partners they have.

it is all about biological continuation and ensuring survival, the same way homosexuals spread disease.

the biological survival of the right-wing breaks completely with Christianity when it comes to the numerous commandments of treating enemies as friends

That is biological absurd, and that is why Sup Forums christians go out of their way to declare that "no, it is actually fine to treat enemies as friends, but Jesus would not want them immigrating, you can help them outside"

AKA what the churches as well, helping this people breed out of control, "saving them from saving themselves"

And Jesus didn't even insinuate that he gave a fuck about borders or cultural survival of nations, his orders for his followers was to cross every borders and convert every nation to its new cult within which there would be "no jew, greek, man or women " according to Paul

Was charity why the Jews killed him and want to burn down his churches?

if jesus was commie then why don't commies worship jesus

Thanks for the easy (You)'s Sup Forums, you guys are too easy.

>Ah, no. He was a humanitarian and a anarchist.
Those ideologies I don't think existed back then?

Do you really want the best for your enemies? You wish the best to the people that raped 1 700 english girls?

Jesus asks you to demented things, that guy was not right in the head, that is why Jews, the group with the strongest survival instinct of this planet, killed him

When it comes to abstract concepts, there is really not much difference between meanings and sayinf something.

The problem gets worse when Christians imply that you can do something without meaning it, their obsession with mental states is completely jewish in nature, they may as well worship Freud

Because their Jewish.

/thread

I know that it's for those reasons, I never thought you can win a place n heaven it's not about that, it's about living holy as a standard of living a "normal" civilised way of living. You think man could have come up with a law such as this? Men are evil if there was no God we would all be rolling around in the mud having sex with each other like in Africa.

This.
Misunderstanding of this basic concept has led to more folly in the last thousand or so years than anything else.
Christians are the Christ's vassals, while at the same time being somehow the same rank as the Christ, sitting at his right hand in the same way the Christ sits at the Father's right hand.
The Kingdom is then a Pneumocracy - part democracy, part spiritual dictatorship, part mystical experience.
The restorative power of the Kingdom is the only thing that will save some people from the horror to come.
Its is the power to repattern humanity, to activate its nascent nature and cleanse it from accreted errors of thought, action, and intent.
Allegiance to the Christ is to transform one's self into a soldier in the Army of God, fighting a primarily rhetorical battle against a primarily rhetorical enemy, as willing to die for the race as the enemy is willing to kill for their own enrichment.

>Rise up o men of God
>Have done with lesser things
>Give heart and mind and soul and strength to >serve the King of Kings.

>Rise up o men of God
>The Church for you doth wait
>With strength unequal to the task
>Rise up and make her great

>Lift high the cross of Christ
>Tread where his feet have trod
>As brothers of the Son of Man
>Rise up, o men of God

We live in the ashes of a fallen Christendom, but the ashes is where the first Church started.
Even as the decadence and greed of the Roman empire unraveled it from within, the people of God managed not only to create an even more beautiful, functional, humane society in its wake but to conquer that failing empire without ever lifting a sword.
No mean feat.
I invite you to look up the best research about the rates of conversion in pre-Constantinian Europe.
Your jaw will drop.
The problems all started, of course, when the Bride of Christ started seeing the Emperor instead of the King.

Don't forget Jesus was a Jew though.

See:
they killed because he opposed him, but Chomsky was exactly the same

Do you really wanna become a communist like Chomsky because that orthodox jews hate him?

it is insane that so-called "right wingers" wanna base their entire life on doing what this jew say, or the opposite of what these other jews say, instead of looking for their own interests

God doesn't want anyone to perish he wants everyone to repent and come to Christ. Unfortunately that won't happen and most people are going to hell says the Bible.

if you wanna live holy, according to Paul, that would be living like a monk, making any biological interest even more pointless

Do you really belive that monks care about their genetic interests?

So? What are you a Nazi?

>The problem gets worse when Christians imply that you can do something without meaning it
Imagine this: killing somebody is a sin, right? but if you kill your enemy on the battlefield defending your prodigy, it's not a sin. The state in your HEART (different from mental state, it's a matter of your spirit) when you do something is what determines if it is evil or not.
>You wish the best to the people that raped 1 700 english girls?
What I wish upon this person is that they get themselves sorted spiritually, make right with God. I don't think its right to, for example, not imprison this person and allow them to continue raping. But, I wish the best for him on his spiritual journey and hope that he finds the light

Sex in marriage is holy living. Having children in marriage is holy.

Jesus said "My Kingdom is not of this world".
COMMIES BTFO

I disagree. Luke 12:13-14, "13 And one of the company said unto him, Master, speak to my brother, that he divide the inheritance with me. 14 And he said unto him, Man, who made me a judge or a divider over you? "

I think if the Lord was a red he would have demanded the redistribution of that wealth.

The Creator of the Universe can't "want"

If he wants something, then what is what happens, he is omnipotent

To believe that the Creator of Everything, is so pettish, that he will punish you forever with eternal pain unless you convince yourself that you believe in a jewish zombie, even when he could simply will people into believing in that, and saving everyone in the process...

What kind of sick game is that? Your jewish God is an insane degenerate

I don't really think that is reasonable at all

Are you really okay with 3 000 generations of pagan ancestors before the year 700 being damned to Hell for not believing in this crazy zombie?

When I say that Christianity breaks completely with biology, I mean it

>don't be a asshole, mind your own business and don't be a jew
I wonder whos behindtv this post

That is not what Paul says at all.
Paul was anti-natalist, as things like wife and family would get in the way of getting people to worship his jewish god.

If unmarried men followed the words of Paul, there would no be any civilization to begin with, people would stop marrying as it would interfere witgh their mental masturbation being a "good person" by telling others that they will go to hell

See:
> 8 Now to the unmarried men and women, and for the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do.
> Are you free from such a commitment? Do not look for a wife.
> 32 I would like you to be free from concern. An unmarried man is concerned about the Lord’s affairs—how he can please the Lord. 33 But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this world—how he can please his wife— 34 and his interests are divided. An unmarried woman or virgin is concerned about the Lord’s affairs: Her aim is to be devoted to the Lord in both body and spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the affairs of this world—how she can please her husband. 35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
t. Paul the Pharisee

Paul makes it EXTREMELY CLEAR that the main concern for every christian is the spread of this virus-like cult at the expense of their own tribe, and his main worry is that Christians may not devote 100 % of their time to the spread of the cult

the organic self-sustaining self-interested self-preserving society that Sup Forums wants is fundamentally incompatible with the "do not save for tomorrow, leave your family and spread my cult" dogma that both Jesus and Paul saw as the main duty of a christian
Jesus made it even clearer when he says that people that abandon their wives and children for him will receive even greater reward (Matthew 19:29 ):

jesus literally taught people how to fish, he didn't force them into the water kicking and screaming drowning them to go get fish for him

The pagans before will be judged according to what they believed and thier own judgement will be brought upon themselves.

wat... Jesus taught no one to fish. he went with fishmen that already knew how to

he was a carpenter

Also God doesn't care what you think is reasonable or not.
You need Jesus to free you from your sin. You are in bondage to the devil.

aka: they are damned to Hell

Your ancestors are evil people for not believing in a Jew

How can people believe that Right-wing interests are compatible with the Church interests when through history
the Churches have shown us that is not the case, that is baffling

Yawn. Another thread spreading lies about our Lord. OP unless he repents will roast in hell.

> You need Jesus to free you from your sin. You are in bondage to the devil

Meaningless mental masturbation. Nothing of that has nothing to do with what happens in the real. You are just fapping over the Bible

yeah, everyone knows Jesus was a capitalist that loved tax cuts

he only did that side job to build boats so he could fish and get away from the jews and turn water into wine and chillax

He's not saying you shouldn't get married he's just saying it's going to be harder to to live for God when your also juggling your personal life around as well.

All christianities which deny the political primacy as Lawgiver and Judge of Christ are no christianities at all, since they fail to make Christians.
Christ wanted followers, not theorists or conformists or even wanton radicals.
He wanted to recruit people willing to play out the long, slow battle against the enemy with patience and cunning.
You must understand-
YOU MUST UNDERSTAND -
The enemy, the powers and principalities and their human scions, are patient.
They are cunning.
They are more than willing to kill for what they want.
What they will not do, what they cannot do, is die for what they believe, because they believe in nothing but self-preservation at any cost.
This puts them at a rhetorical disadvantage that the Christ took great advantage of and his early followers after him.
Nobility tugs at the heartstrings - we appreciate a good death.
The dauntless joy in the face of persecution and derision, not to mention the way the poorest members of the community were able to overcome their previous social limitations and gain mobility thanks to relational networks, sharing, and the sheer unconquerable power of God, were very compelling arguments.
I understand most people reading this cannot begin to visualize the implication of a proper Kingship doctrine in the church (the ability to imagine such things has been beaten out of us with fantasy and vanity) but do try to.
It is most likely the only way out of your current life.
Understand that lives are just what we do together, and the Church has the power to facilitate people being together constructively in space separate from the world.
Thanks to the way it can drag people down through time and history to make contact with the us we were before all this, the Church, its writings, its teachings and its traditions are the only way forward into what we used to be.

>Meaningless mental masturbation.
Help me out with this mental boner and have some intercourse with me

Jesus had no political affiliation. He said take what they give you. He said give the Emperor what is his and God what is his.

That he sees having a normal right.wing biological life, as being an interference to the throughly following this so-called "religion", is actually a very clear warning sign of the opposite interests between the Right and Christianity

This warning does not really exist in religions like Islam and Hinduism, there is no reason for why a right-wing religion should see marriage as something that could interfere with your relationship with God

The problem is that, Paul expects his demented followers to go around the world preaching about this jewish zombie, and for that, they have to leave everything behind, as Jesus himself said, even wife and children

So he is well aware that married people are not going to be able to spread the demented jewish virus they actually have a real family to take care of

Well you've been told there's nothing more I can do, you either believe or you dont. You don't know when it's going to be your last day so I would repent sooner or later if I were you. Judgement day is coming soon.

of course, whatever mental masturbation believe, that is not the point of this argument

The point of this argument is that Christianity interferes directly with Biology, and Paul seemed to agree with me

yeah faggot we all know that Jesus preached charity, no need for more bible verses
address the fact that charity is different than forced wealth redistribution or admit you're a lying faggot

Paul was the first to betray him, so was the catholic church that was built on his behalf. The whore is built on seven hills just like the vatican.

Stay far away from any confessions and believe as you see fit.

Jesus and Paul said leave everything behind because it's the ultimate sacrifice you can do to clear yourself of the world and live 100% spiritual your chance of slipping back to living like any other sinner would be quite minimal after that Imagine.

Sry i mean Petrus.

Christianity must above all be practiced.
It is moving bodies through space and time, making history.
The enemy wants to make living dead people - people who cannot touch the levers and dials of history, people who cannot interfere with the Plan, people content to live and die in as small a way as they can be hemmed into.
The Christ liberates people into their historical power, if people practice what he preaches.
If you practice what he preaches, you cease conforming to the image of this world and begin being transformed by a renewing of your mind.
Of course, unless you are a Gnostic (which is no sort of Christian) you understand that your mind is a part of your Ψυχη, your "self," your compartmentalized body-consciousness moving through space in time, and that as it transforms so transforms the world.
That is what Christ-following is for.
It is for creating worlds in microcosm, communities of possibility where people can be free to return to their God-given roles as stewards, and now renovators, of humanity and the planet.
If you believe the story, none of this happens completely.
It happens in fits and starts, here and there, like mustard seeds sown in a field.
But in due time, those mustard seeds, the smallest seeds there are, turn into mustard the size of trees, and everyone is invited to share in this wonder.
So, right here, right now, in front of us we cannot reasonably expect a massive world revolution through our efforts, but we must expecting a million small revolutions happening all over the world, in neighborhoods and coffee shops and church buildings and houses and everywhere else a crack presents itself as a place for a seed to tumble down.
Don't bother thinking the whole world.
Think your immediate surroundings, the people and places you love and have been given responsibility for.
That's what your mind is made to handle.