Hi Sup Forums i cant understand why a huge number of people wont admit the holohoax was fake and still think Hitler was...

Hi Sup Forums i cant understand why a huge number of people wont admit the holohoax was fake and still think Hitler was a monster even with the shit ton of evidance provided to them? I respect other people opinions but they dont even want to look at all the evidance provided. Why do they want to keep the shit learned in school and wont even bothet to find new information and compare.

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Why people are afraid of the facts about the Jews:

youtube.com/watch?v=-iU9kf2EHJw

Fucking idiot

The truth about the holocaust:

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>t. triggered jidf jew
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The truth about the Holocaust is that it happened

Were their crematoriums? Yep. Millions were interned in POW camps at various times. They were good-sized cities. It was a necessity.

Enough to cremate 6 gorzilllion in 3 years? Nope. Not even close, a ridiculous proposition. In fact the handful there actually were were multiplied many times over by fake ones built post-war... and still not anywhere close to enough. This is all thoroughly documented. Plus it's basic math.

Were jews treated for disease and delousing? Yep.

Were jews "gassed" in some sort of overly complicated Rube Goldberg method of mass killing? Nope.

Did jews die? Yep. Especially towards the end of the war as there wasn't enough food and supplies to take care of the Germans themselves, much less jew POWs. Why do you think the allies found camps full of ALIVE albeit starving jews? And the dead jews found, dead due to starvation? GASSING DOESN'T MAGICALLY MAKE YOU SKINNY.

Did 6 million die? Nope. Again, basic math in regards to the jew population post-war. 300,000-900,000 died in camps do to a combination of disease and starvation. There was NO multi-million scale organized mass killing.

Is history written by the victors? Yep.

Has the holohoax been used to maintain jew control upon the world? Yep.

>Nope. Again, basic math in regards to the jew population post-war
Why don't you give your numbers to post-war jewish population so that we can substantiate your basic math

>be jews
>increase in numbers after the "holocaust"

And the source for that please

>be a jew
>blood catches on fire

>be a jew
>survive after getting gassed six times

>be a jew
>get thrown into the "bears and eagles" cage by hitler

>be a jew
>get your teeth cleaned before you're gassed

You accidentally forgot to give me the source for your post war jewish population claim

>be a jew
>avoid getting gassed because you're hungry

>be a jew
>climb a 80 ft tall pile of human ash (never to be found)
>die in a nazi acid pond
>scare the neighbors

>be a jew
>get balls chewed off by nazi dogs
>escape your death camp in a pile of clothes

>be a baby jew
>get turned into soccer ball

>be a jew
>get raped by nazi rape dogs

>be a jew
>get turned into jewish sausage and eaten by hitler

>be a jew
>get tickled to death by hitler

>be a jew
>get released from your jew execution camp

>be a jew
>go in a dunk tank and get vaporized into jew dust by 10 gorbillion volts

>be a jew
>get masturbated to death by hitler

>be a jew
>get dig dugged

Germany was the aggressor in World War Two.

>be a jew
>get turned into a jewess by hitler

>be a jew
>declare war on germany

Because normalfags like faith

Whats with all this phony Holocau$t™ BS?

Israel must be getting ready to set off another 9/11 False Flag, so they're putting out sob stories about German pizza ovens.

wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

>be 20,000 jews
>get vaporized by hitler's death star laser

Ego investment.

So after doing a bit of research I found out it's from the World Almanac. They didn't took data during the war and estimated. In 1948 they simply copied the 1847 digit.
In 1949 they listed 11.266.600 which is almost 4.5 million less than their 15.748.091 number for world wide jews in 1941.
Given that YOU listed the almanac as a reliable source would you also accept it as evidence for the holocaust of 4.5 million jews + countless people from other races?

>be a jew
>die via nazi rube goldberg machines

*1947 of course

>be hitler

>reliable
"Hey goyim, 8 million died at Auschwitz! Never forget da shoah!"

"Whoops, it was 7 million. Anyway, never forget how evil white people of the west are!"

Hitler was a monster regardless of whether or not the Holocaust took place. His warmongering and extremist racialism killed fifteen million Europeans, destroyed conversatism in the West, and gave the left absolute supremacy world-wide for seventy years, thereby opening the door to mass immigration and the unprecedented filthiness and degeneration of our morals.

"Ok, hold up. It was 4 million. Never forget! It really happened! Gas chambers! Lamp shades! Roller coasters!"

Whoa buddy chill with the pasta

"Ok, ok, honest mistake. It was just 1.5 milllion! We over-counted by 6.5 million at this single camp. Whoopsie. Never forget! White people are evil. Believe us!

ps- and if you question us any more, we'll imprison you!"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

Very simple OP......Jews literally control everything in the Western world. They have been indoctrinating us with propaganda for at least 100 years. However, people are waking up to the truth and there are going to be A LOT of really fucking angry goys who realize they have been lied to and manipulated about so many things. History repeats itself, and we are due for another major antisemitic uprising in our lifetime.

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>I give you a source
>you take a claim from someone completely unrelated to refute my source
You are one smart fella. I didn't claim the almanac is reliable. Nobody would. The Holocaust denier cited it as a source so I'm askng if he's consstent enough to accept it as evidence against his claim

>Evidance
Fucking tool

>Implying boycotts work
>Implying Jews didn't have valid reason to boycott German goods

Also, even just looking at this link is enough to make you hate Jews.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

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>Seriously trying to argue with a meme-shitposter

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If you reject the almanac as a source for post war jewish population you are free to give another one. If you cannot even to you it should dawn that you are the one who never questioned the claims he's been taught.

Always felt like something was off about it. I can believe death camps but the fact that it focuses only on the jews made me question everything.
Why not say 6 million people died? Did they verify that every single one there was a jew? nah

Please enlighten us with your debunked "knowledge". Clearly, there is no point of doing this thread unless you give us examples.

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Who or what only focuses on the jews?
Desu I think the holocaust is such a minefield of a topic most people just say 6 million jews and be done with. 4.5 million jews doesn't sound much nicer anyhow.

Denial of the Holocaust is often linked with an outright refusal to acknowledge the mass killings the Germans conducted.

>meme
The holohaox is indeed a meme

No historian has ever made the claim that "only Jews were genocided by the Nazi's". It's actually quite the opposite. Often when you're learning about the holocaust you get to study about the non-jews who were killed too. Such as the Gypsies, mentally ill, gays, communists and so on. Quite clearly you didn't pay attention to your history class, they didn't teach you this or your blatantly an imbecile.

This is the only sort of reply I expect to receive. Nazis on this board never are fond of argumentation.

Some of the most prominent Holocaust deniers are anti-Hitler. Denierbud, the maker of One Third of the Holocaust, is one of them. The fallacy that refuting the Holocaust miraculously makes Hitler and Naziism good is tediously common.

In a previous thread, one user brought up this question - If Germany really wanted to kill all of the jews in the camps, why not just stop feeding them? They would all die in a matter of months. Why supposedly kill them by all of these other elaborate methods?

>refusal to acknowledge the mass killings the Germans conducted
Nope.

youtube.com/watch?v=x9IgBSp2MIo
>yup

You think it makes sense to make camps to house millions of people, then send them there and wait for them to starve to death? Don't you think it makes more sense to just shoot them right away or build small camps and kill them as they arrive?

Because your "evidence" is just maymays, and Hitler was a retard with or without the holocaust, as evidenced by his country's utter destruction under his rule.

You want to feel unique and counter culture but you're not actually smart enough to do or be anything on your own merits so you've glommed onto National Socialism one of the last ways to rebel in an age in which the concept of taboo itself is waning.

They did starve them you mong. They even had a plan called "The Hunger Plan". What do you think happened to Polish Jews? Most of them died in ghettos of starvation. You absolute idiot. Do you actually think Jews were well-fed in camps? If American troops and other soldiers held in camps in Japan or USSR were barely fed anything. How do you think the Germans treated the jews?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan

>Nazis on this board never are fond of argumentation.
That's why you kikes only provide straw men you hope to knock down instead of providing any actual evidence that millions of people were actually gassed and cremated rube goldberg style.

e.g. Jews claim 900,000 were holocasuted at the Treblinka camp.

A human leaves about 7 pounds (size of a shoe box) of ash behind when cremated.

900,00 people = 6300000 pounds or 3150 tons of ash that was supposedly buried in this tiny corner... and never located.

Equivalent to 30-40 blue whales in size and weight.

I love how Nazis want to pretend Nationalsocialism was so great. But if it inherently this great, why did they have to shut down free speech, newspapers and opposition? All of this is such a no-brainer. The fact that these people actually think National socialism was a good ideology is hilarious.

Exactly my point. Why build elaborate camps, house and feed them just to shoot them or gas them?

It's like those old comic books where the villains tie up the protagonist and place them on a complex death machine instead of just shooting them.

>map of modern Russia with modern russian flag overlay as example of communism
IQ 0.89

8 million
7 million
4 million
1.5 million

how odd

it's almost like they're making up as they go along

And their failures actually extend beyond your points. Germans were on rationing even prior to the war.

To keep it a secret. The german population was staunchly against violence against the jews. Hence open violence was shut down after the Reichskristallnacht

Well, it's pretty obvious that you don't know much about the subject. They people who were housed and fed (poorly) were the ones selected for work. The majority was sent straight to the gas chambers.

>Exactly my point. Why build elaborate camps, house and feed them just to shoot them or gas them?
how did gas chamber magically make all the few THOUSAND dead jews that were found (and the live ones liberated) skinny?

it's almost like... they starved to death or something

We were literally agreeing with you nigger

>The majority was sent straight to the gas chambers.
and their ashes/body parts never to be seen again, despite there supposedly being thousands of tons of it

Have you guys even read anything about the camps? Their intentions weren't to kill the jews instantly. If you've read about the final solution, you'd know Hitler planned on taking care of them in different stages. I'm paraphrasing, but I believe it was excluding them > forced them into ghettos > imprison them > mass genocide. The camps served as places to imprison the enemies of Hitler. Most of the prisoners in these camp were doing labour and aiding german efforts. From as early as early as 1934, concentration camp commandants used prisoners as forced labourers for SS construction projects such as the construction or expansion of the camps themselves. By 1938, SS leaders envisioned using the supply of forced laborers incarcerated in the camps for a variety of SS-commissioned construction projects. To mobilize and finance such projects, Himmler revamped and expanded the administrative offices of the SS and created a new SS office for business operations.

Do I think there was a ligtiamte Holocaust. No. Do I actually believe the 6 grillion. Yes. War is fucked up and when your ideology puts race (not even ethnicity, so shit is even more vague) before anything else and slows all other tenits to be changed to fit personal preference. You will have a bunch of pagan SS officers using dark magic and pseudoscience to kill Jews (very inifectivly I might add, bug spray and only 6 mill?) when they have all the excuses a murder man could ever want. The real question you should ask is did the Jews deserve it. And if we look at the chosen people's history of them doing stuff that they really should not, well, put 2 and 2 together, the NSA could be spying.

Get shit on idiot. Even the people you agree with think you're an absolute ignoramus.

False.

Again, you are confusing labor camps and extermination camps.

>all death camps were outside the densely populated Altreich
Shocking really

Internation during war is what?
All nations did, but whom prefected it?
The soviet jews ofc!

OP seems to ignore grammar to a certain extent, which is just a nitpick. Looking at the mathematical "fact of the matter" is no the place to start. Genocide was carried out regardless, and it'd be pretty naive of everyone here to think their snowflake research trumps history. It's odd how many of you claim to believe in eugenics, but claim that you would be superior to everyone particularly Jews, but yet you claim they're in power oppressing you. The further you get on either side the political spectrum, the more it becomes evident that they are inverse reflections of each other.
tldr; Your hatred for Jews, belief in eugenics, Holocaust denying, and white supremacy seem to all contradict each other from what I see.

>False.
nice rebuttal

powerful

i used to think that pic related was a fabrication by "neo-nazis" back when i saw this in highschool, because of the constant indoctrination within the public system

it is not false, everything that is presented and implied is true. look into it

assuming you're not a kike

Did you look into it? Do you know anything about the archeology at the camp sites?

Read my post again, you autistic faggot. It doesn't mention stealing food from Russians to feed Germans. It does however mention CAMPS, as in the CAMPS created by Germany just so the jews could "hang around" for a while before being put in gas chambers or shot. If the Germans were hell bent on killing them (and other prisoners) then why the fuck would they go through the trouble of bringing them there?

German camps were divided. It wasn't always just a labour camp or a killing center. Sometimes they'd divide camps into sections for labour & concentration camps. Auswitch is the prime example of this. That being said, camps transitioned into death camps alternatively concentration camps over time.

No one ever address these types of inconsistencies. It's amusing.
>but my pile of shoes though

You really don't know anything. In the eastern territories, almost all the Jews they found were shot. They didn't shoot Jews in places like France because it would be impossible to hide it.

Nope, Auschwitz is actually unique in this regard. The other exterminations camps (Majdanek, Belzec etc.) were only about killing.

It's funny how you extrapolate an example as an answer. It was an example and a rhetorical question. My answer was two sentences long. I'll quote it for you again:

"They did starve them you mong. They even had a plan called "The Hunger Plan"."

Here is the Wikipedia page for you again, imbecile.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan

The SS as an organization was making massive profits from slave labour. Since they were in charge of running the camps, it was in their interest to keep profitable prisoners alive.

Remember, the death camps with organized mass killing and disposal of the bodies in crematoriums didn’t happen after months of trial and error. By the time the gas chambers and ovens started full operations hundreds of thousands had already been killed, so there’s no point in trying to hide that they were doing something bad to Jews.

Simply put, brain washing. It is similar to the reasons why people stay in cults. Social acceptance, group approval and cognitive dissonance par excellence.

Camps that were claimed to be "death camps" were proven not to be by American forces.

(((Magically))), all the Russian occupied ones were.

And they refused allied inspection or outside visitors until they were (((reconstructed))).

And oh my, look at all those Americana liberated camps. I bet they didn't have a high mortality rate at all compared to the "gas chamber" camps... oh wait.

Dude, you do realize that the pic you just posted was made specifically to debunk your argument, right? Seriously, you don't even read the stuff you post?

You can bring up as much anecdotal evidence as you want. Niederhagen, Vaivara, Janowska or Fort VII all served too both facilitate prisoners and force them to do labour, while also running extermination or concentration camps. My point remains in that most camps weren't just concentration camps, labour camps, transit camps, extermination camps and so forth. Most camps served more than one purpose.

You fucking brainwashed kike, the point is a shit ton of jews died at all the camps, including the American liberated ones. In some cases, more in the American ones than the the USSR "gas chamber" ones. Look at the numbers.

No one denies a lot of jews died. What is bullshit is that there was a giant organized gassing+cremation operation where 6 million died.

The number was far, far lower and they were not targeted for genocide via some overly complex James Bond villan operation. They were POWs. Many starved. Many died of diseases like typhus.

Everything jew is built upon the gassing lie, that's why you're brainwashed so hardcore.

>the point is a shit ton of jews died at all the camps

No, the point is that the whole "oh look they thought those were death camps too and they were wrong!" argument is bullshit. It also speaks volumes about your ability to argue that you don't even read the shit you post.

>No, the point is that the whole "oh look they thought those were death camps too and they were wrong!"
The Americans found ZERO gas chambers in the camps they liberated. Zero. The "extermination camps" were all "found" by the Soviets. That's the point, retard. That the gas chamber bullshit is a lie. Those that did die in the camps died of starvation and disease, not gas chambers.

You kikes are so used to your straw man "all or nothing" bullshit shill tactics you can't even use basic logic.