Replace Mashu with Sakura

Replace Mashu with Sakura.


You're welcome fatefags!

I hate nu-fate

OG Fate > all the spin off and trash mobile game

At least it found a suitable replacement for Sakura while Nasu was making it. Mashu is literally Sakura done right.

>Replace Sakura with Mashu
FTFY retard

Mashu was supposed to be in FSN originally, so no, she wouldn't replace anyone.

Then he should have kept Mashu and deleted Sakura. Also there is no way that he will make two characters this similar in the same novel. Mashu either would have been different back then or Sakura just had another personality all together.

>Mashu was supposed to be in FSN originally
Oh, dear, it's actually true.
Aside from calling the mc senpai, there is little they have in common.

Mashu is assosiated with Sakura already though to the point that you'd be blind if you missed it.

Hell you even have her sprouting the same lines as Sakura from HF, that she just enjoys a modest normal life, and she'll enjoy what little time she has left. You'd remember that Sakura as well thought she had a limited lifespam in HF and thought she was going to die, was never allowed to dream or be human. Sakura had an entire speech about how just ordinary things were great, when Mashu said something similar Goetia got mad at her and realized she's just a normal girl. Goetia thought Mashu was the same as it.

>Purple
>Kouhai
>Breasts
>Daddy issues
>knows she'll die soon but just enjoys the small time she has left in some fatalistic way, just like Sakura was in HF
>Senpaisexual
>Lewd
>Bottles up resentment a bit, yet is also forving
>Cleans up senpai's room, smells the clothes when she's in there like Sakura in HA
>Bad liar
>Eats a lot
>Hasn't thought of her own wish or desires too much, just like in the scene in HF where Shirou asks what Sakura's biggest dream is. She just asks for some mundane thing.
>Enjoys the little things in life
>Gets jealous of other girls being on senpai

Nasu thought of including a Servant with Rho Aias that would have been a leftover from the previous war (which would explain where Shirou got it), but decided against that pretty early on.

Such a Servant would have been pretty different from Mash.

So Mashu was suppose to be Ajax?

Mashu's design was originally planned to be Galahad herself according to Nasu's notes for DEEN/stay night (which was originally not going to just be an adaptation of the Fate route).

What the fuck did I just watch?

>Nasu's notes for DEEN/stay night
Huh? Didn't he have notes for the Pre-VN?

Yes

Are they the same as the Nasu's notes for Deen/Stay Night? I am confused was Galahad originally a Shielder? Was Ajax going to be another servant on top of the 8?

>Mashu is cuter, though.
Agreed.

Only thing that was worth agreeing tbqh.

Galahad with Mashu's design was always intended to be Shielder I believe. I don't know if Ajax was ever actually planned, I think it was just assumed incorrectly that the "Stray Servant" Shielder with Mashu's design was supposed to be Ajax.

>I think it was just assumed incorrectly that the "Stray Servant" Shielder with Mashu's design was supposed to be Ajax.
That fits I guess.

Make Mashu the wormslut and Sakura the pure waifu of the season? I like that idea, OP

>Make Mashu the wormslut
Impossible

>Sakura the pure waifu
Kek

seconding

Mashu is not just cuter, she is sexier, a better Kouhai, and can fight for herself!

there's like 3 fate Sup Forums threads.

this one,

this and this

now where to post.

Whichever you one you want? Sup Forums will always have a constant 24/7 Fate thread running.

What are Mashu's three sizes in comparison to Sakura?

I have a fetish short haired girls so I maybe bias.
But I think she's the most lovable fate girl.

I just like her because she's like Rem but with purple hair.

But it wouldn't have Dadcelot.

This is Japanese Mona Lisa

Everything is gonna be daijoubu.

Da Vinci pulls off the look better.

I have loved Mashu ever since her reveal. She was perfection embodied. I even played FGO for a while because of her, but I had to quit because that game is a slippery slope to hell. Now when I finally start to forget her, they release this special episode an now faggot OP is trying to start a cancer war.

2017 just started and its all going downhill.

Is there literally any criteria at all to becoming a servant? It seems like Nasu writes rules and creates guidelines just to push them to the point of breaking later on. If a woman who was in a painting people admired for a few hundred years or even the general concept of a "fairytale" can become servants I have no idea why actual people like Stalin can't become servants due to being famous after the 1800s despite becoming known for feats that were not possible in earlier times. People like Vlad the Impaler became servants but Hitler brutalized people on a much larger scale due to the technology available to him, and has a much large presence in the public imagination because of it. Even hundreds of years from now he'll be known for breaking previous milestones for mass murder and was a leader in one of humanity's biggest and most important wars. I seriously don't get why Hitler is incapable of being a servant yet the fucking Mona Lisa can be.

Mashu is pretty much Sakura with less worms anyway

The entire idea is that a heoric spirit is greater than human.
Hitler sure did some huge things, but at the end, he'll always be just human.

Dudes who cares, you can just wish upon a grail and you can become a servant or make a imaginary one it doesn't matter.

Mash getting mashed.

That was true of everyone else who became a heroic servant though. They all started out as flesh and blood people.

And even if you argue it's the mystique behind the legend that creates a servant, that doesn't explain why actual historical people like Elizabeth Bathory or that weird mystic woman whose IRL counterpart was butt ugly became servants. If that was the case then shouldn't it be Dracula that's a Heroic Spirit, not Bathory?

It seems like Nasu just throws in a bunch of stipulations in to make his story seem cool without bother to consider whether he'll write himself into a corner later. As a result we have a bunch of contradictory interviews and lore mechanics and arguing over them becomes a mess because everyone was technically right at some point in time. We need a reboot or a definitive lore guide or something.

If Mata Hari can become a heroic spirit why can't Hitler?

or maybe you could just learn to cope with your autism without a instruction manual written by nasu

Otto Von Bismarck would be the greatest Avenger Servant and the most chunni one of them all.

>If you don't like shit writing you're autistic

There's a new one.

Truth. Knowing Type-Moon if he appeared he'd either get made into a noodle-tier bishounen or a cougar with outrageously large tits though.

Hitler isn't a Servant because Nasu doesn't want to deal with the huge shitstorm that would result by adding a war criminal that is hated by most of the world into his mobage. Same reason we aren't seeing Mohammad as a Servant, even though he qualifies.

>Nasu makes Otto Von Bismarck a cougar with outrageously large tits.
Don't you mean Milf considering he had two sons and some daughters. His sons also were part of the government of Prussia until their father got fired and they quit.

But my dick couldn't handle Bismarck being genderswapped.

Did she die a virgin?

Yes.

But Mona Lisa isn't a Servant?

FGO crushed those autistic world building discussions, but that was the life of the Fate threads. No wonder the threads started to die right after.

Da Vinci is Mona Lisa in the Nasu world.

i want to mash mashus mashus

How big are her Mashus?

You are misguided.

Well, there's a crackpot theory that Mona Lisa was actually a self-portrait, Nasu didn't exactly invent it.

Never said he invented it, just that Mona Lisa is Da Vinci in Nasus world.

And not used it. Da Vinci was a man.

He made himself into a girl or something?

No he is not.

Yes, Mona Lisa is his ideal of beauty. That beauty was so desired that he decided to become this beauty himself.

So basically he was a waifufag. Okay.

>Galahad used to be a genderswap
>now he's just a white-haired fuccboi who lent his powers to the girl who stole his design

>Dark Mashu
My dick doesn't know what to feel.

This is better. Mary sues suck.

They genderswapped Gareth isntead.

who?

...

Qt.

I prefer if he stays male. Less genderswaps, the better. Now the franchise is even more of a joke thanks to them.

He's an old dude who turned himself into a girl after he arrived to Chaldea. Which made Roman uncomfortable because she hits on him often.

No. Da Vinci is 100% into guys. Specially redhead guys.

How did he make himself into a girl?

Da Vinci and Vincent Van Gogh fucking when?

Can someone tell me why she had to have the most fucked up death ever in Fate?

And the worst part is that Mashu the retard could've done something to stop it by using her abilities as a Demi Servant to kill that Lev faggot with ease and grab her out of the air, but she just stood there with her thumb up her ass doing nothing but watching her get slowly levitated into a fucking sun.

And if Marie was already supposed to be dead, how the fuck was she even there with MC kun in the first place? Was she a ghost all along or something? It makes no fucking sense.

This isn't helped by the fact that we're stuck watching the most cheesedick main character ever doing literally fucking nothing for the entire show, and when he finally tries to do something to stop it, Mashu stops him and makes him watch as she dies in the most fucked up way ever.

Christ this shit was already stupid, but this in particular just seriously fucking pissed me off.

As soon as we get a Van Gogh Servant. But I think he meant that shota Alex and Roman were her favorite targets to hit on.

Magic and shit. Caster.

>Can someone tell me why she had to have the most fucked up death ever in Fate?
She didn't. You must be a newfag if you think she even got it as bad as Angra Mainyu or half of the Heroic Spirits who suffered a gruesome end.

>Was she a ghost all along or something?

Yes, she was materialized as a Servant because she didn't realize she died. Nobody detected it was a magical body because she has a weak presence as non Servant.

>LIKE a Servant
Not as a Servant. Sorry.

She was fucked anyway. If she returned to Chaldea or stayed.

There's so much secondary in this post that I don't know if it's bait or serious. Starting weak power level Mashu trying to fight fucking Flauros on her own.

Doing/Teaching mana transfers to the daughteru Servants.

How does it feel to know that your waifu has literal brain problems?

What?

Well excuse me for the OVA being so fucking shit at explaining any of this.
It certainly has no problem info dumping about shit we don't even fucking care about in the beginning, but they don't even bother throwing a bone over the shit that actually fucking matters.
Even someone who isn't a secondary should be able to recognize the level of shit writing.

>Yes, she was materialized as a Servant because she didn't realize she died.
HOW?!

Don't play dumb. She's arguably the most autistic heroine we've seen in Fate.

Nah

>She is the most autistic heroine we've seen.
No shit sherlock. She is basically a living wikipedia with a senpai complex and Stockholm syndrome you would know this if u played the game.

Google "Flauros", you know the name Lev introduced himself at the end and you'll find out he's a fucking demon. You want Mashu, who barely can deploy her NP to stand up against an immortal demon god when Lev congratulated her she noticed he's out her league so she didn't even fucking try to get close and stopped Mc-kun.

Olga was dead. A bomb was put beneath her and she died, but her denial and wish to let shifting (something she had no aptitude for) made her oblivious soul end in the Singularity, where she got a materialized spirit form. If she stayed in the Singularity, she would be destroyed with it, if she went back to Chaldea, her lingering consciousness would have disappeared too. Lev just spared her to choose how she'll disappear.

It's not even the worst death in Fate by far. Like other user said above, Angra Mainyu was tortured for weeks and years, betrayed by his own town, including his own family, dehumanized until he became the reposit of all hatred and lost his sense of 'person' to become more of a phenomena or concept. Slowly and slowly losing his body parts, etc. It was super edgy and gruesome what happened to him.

The Grail in Singularities do weird shit man.

leyshifting

Stupid autocorrect.

Thats far from being autistic you faggot.

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>Google "Flauros", you know the name Lev introduced himself at the end and you'll find out he's a fucking demon. You want Mashu, who barely can deploy her NP to stand up against an immortal demon god when Lev congratulated her she noticed he's out her league so she didn't even fucking try to get close and stopped Mc-kun.
OK fine, then why didn't she just swoop in, grab Olga and run like hell?
>her denial and wish to let shifting (something she had no aptitude for) made her oblivious soul end in the Singularity, where she got a materialized spirit form. If she stayed in the Singularity, she would be destroyed with it, if she went back to Chaldea, her lingering consciousness would have disappeared too. Lev just spared her to choose how she'll disappear.
Pic related. Explain this bullshit in English please.

I would play the game if it wasn't fucking region locked to Japan.

>"I like you because you are human senpai!"

You know she is technically not human right?

>OK fine, then why didn't she just swoop in, grab Olga and run like hell?
Because Flauros is faster, stronger and can lift them via magic anyway?

>Pic related. Explain this bullshit in English please.
Singularities crumble and everything in them disappear. Singularity was crumbling. And Lev explained that as soon as Olga returned to Chaldea, she'll die. Because she is dead. What gave her a corporeal form was the Singularity. In Chaldea, her body is smear under a pillar.

He just returned her in a dramatic way, but she would have died anyway. This was done to establish he's super evil and not the kind man he used to be in the past. By the way, Lev is really a good person, but his human personality is now dominated by the demon; in other timelines he's glad to die before he turns into full demon or kills himself when he becomes aware of what's happening. The human Lev wished to protect humans and history while the Demon Flauros is a tool to destroy what he cherished. Olga's not the only tragic character there, and she died never knowing Lev would have rather died than hurting her. Typical Nasu fashion.

She had no body to return to so by returning her conciousness would just fizzle into nothing.
By remaining in the singularity she would be destroyed along with it anyway.
Either way she was fucked

Qooapp.

Not that guy but she who had a painless first death did not deserve a painfully second death for the sake of it.

She was human in the beginning dumbass. And even if she wasn't, that's no excuse for her to have the personality of a fucking two by four.

She was never human. She's a designer's baby to host Servants, and the only person who treated her like a human being was Roman. Lev was also sympathetic (as was the demon Flauros), while Olga was too scared to face her because she feared Mashu would take revenge on her.