Old/pol/ vs. new/pol/

Why is the population of Sup Forums now so different from the population in 2013?

>2013
>Ron Paul was the mascot
>Capitalists vs. Communists
>Banter about the economic differences

>2017
>Donald Trump is the mascot
>Fascism vs. Socialism
>Banter about identity politics

What the fuck happened to the fiscally responsible libertarians on this board? Are they just a minority now or are they gone? I remember when identity politics with a small portion and we were all yelling at each other economic movements. Now, I hardly see any thread remotely economic in nature (barring the tax threads which will fade away in a couple of days, and bitcoin threads).

All lolbertarians became alt right, NS, or NRx. No one gives a shit about libertarianism except as a stepping stone to better political theories

>he actually thinks 2013 was old Sup Forums and that it was all communists vs. capitalists.

Old, old Sup Forums is /new/. But Sup Forums is 6 years old and 2013 was when it was 2 years old. What's your point?

2013 isn't old Sup Forums. Anything after 2012 is new Sup Forums. And it was never the libertarian haven you chucklefucks constantly pretend it was. Even back then the site polls showed a clear natsoc majority.

>Even back then the site polls showed a clear natsoc majority.
>site pols

Haha, get the fuck out of here newfag.

>he doesn't remember the constant polling libertarians put up despite always getting btfo in them.

Seriously, calling others newfag doesn't make it so. I've been here since /new/, I'm not going anywhere.

It's not jut Sup Forums that changed, society itself changed. In the pat few years, leftists have gone insane with their anti-white and anti-male rhetoric, Sup Forums is merely reacting to the situation. Economics is also important but there is a culture war happening right now and it wasn't started by Sup Forums.

>>Ron Paul was the mascot
still is breh

>I've been here since /new/, I'm not going anywhere.

Doubt it. You've probably been here since Infowars / AboveTopSecret migration. About 3-4 years back, at most.

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>What the fuck happened to the fiscally responsible libertarians on this board? Are they just a minority now or are they gone?
We pop in now and again in the /lrg/ threads, but for the most part we hang around on the discord:
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Nope. Been here since /new/. You actually believe Sup Forums was ever a libertarian board, you have no place for calling anyone a newfag.

This fat fuck and running Johnson again, especially his VP choice, is pretty much what did it for me.

>>What the fuck happened to the fiscally responsible libertarians on this board? Are they just a minority now or are they gone?
nobody cares since obama added 10 trillion to the national debt. that battle is a lost cause.
meanwhile jewish subversion of our society is the most pressing existential threat, so we are 1488ing it up now

seriously

>tfw been posting since 2008 but your only 22

We all moved on from Libertarianism once we realized that a truly free market is impossible as long as Kikes exist in this world. Libertarianism is a stepping stone on the road to ethnic nationalism.

>You actually believe Sup Forums was ever a libertarian board, you have no place for calling anyone a newfag.

Mhm. Been on this site since Something Awful, friendo. Trying to change the past, isn't going to work, bud. Especially since this Trump bullshit is less than a couple years old.

All of them are coming out of the wordwork now.

Never said a word about Trump, nigger. Why was /new/ deleted again?

I'm libertarian because I'm pro freedom. If my peers are going to be anti freedom I will be an enemy of my peers.

Because many /newsmen/ still browsed the board and we weren't flooded with all you newfag kids

Also you capitalistsm vs communism/fascism vs socialism point is completely wrong

r u fuckin kid in m8? that post was satire of libertarianism. and recently weve been swarmed with lolbergs and ancaps these past few months bc edgy 14 yos who want to rebel against authority have been getting on here after the election. i would say this is bait but it actually looks like you wasted time and effort on this. neck yourself.

There have been polls of political ideology taken dating back to the /new/ days, in terms of numbers every single one has been
NatSoc (and allied) > Libertarian (and allied) > other

The number of lolbergs has dropped but there has never been a large number of commies here and the idea that identity politics is something new is just plain wrong

Libertarianism is being idealistic
Nationalism is being realistic

We don't have the luxury of taking a gentle touch approach anymore.

>Also you capitalistsm vs communism/fascism vs socialism point is completely wrong

Bullshit. The only time identity politics popped up back in the day was when Sup Forums was doing their raids and trolling with Hitler meme's. Hell, most of the Hitler shit was kept in Sup Forums for a long time. Now this identity politic bullshit is all there is in Sup Forums. It's pretty blatant Sup Forums was hit with an influx since Sup Forums managed to eat up site views with a couple years. There's was a HUGE migration to Sup Forums from fringe sites. I personally blame InfoWars for donating their middle-aged schizos.

>that post was satire of libertarianism

No shit, you dumb fuck. It's a rip of bible meme.

Old Sup Forums is /n/ before it was trains and bicycles.

and yet you posted it as an example of le epic libertarian pol!!!11!
>hehe I was only acting retarded jokes on them
again neck yourself

>and yet you posted it as an example of le epic libertarian pol!!!11!

It was an example of Paul memeing. Fuck off, newfag.

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Why are you waiting you capitalist maggot, the user make the banter

feel free to debunk libertarianism whenever you're ready. that would require actually understanding it though, which means investing time and effort into something... a deal breaker, I know. much easier to just pretend you understand something than to actually put the work in. poor brainlets think that just because they don't understand something it is stupid/can't work. sad!

The thing that broke my libertarian spirit was contemplating the demographic shift in California and Texas. California used to be a red state but turned blue with millions of Mexicans. Texas is turning blue.

Mexicans come by the millions, breed rapidly, shift our demographics, and vote for big government. Mexicans are corroding our country and must be stopped but can't be by libertarians.

It's like Gandhi wouldn't take a pill that would make a serial murderer because he wants to be peaceful. Likewise, a libertarian can't be a libertarian because it would result in importing millions of shit skins who change the government into something antithetical to libertarian ideas. Thus, to be a libertarian you must be a fascist who wants the removal of subhumans so that we can eventually achieve a real libertarian paradise.

>Bullshit
Remember how post no. 1 on this place was a sticky from moot saying that if it turned into /stormfront/ again it would be deleted and to remember that global rule 3 applied?

Libertarianism is realistic to me. I know in reality under a totalitarian government I'd be able to do less and I'd benefit less. Under a libertarian government I'd benefit more because there would be no one restricting me.

>lots of Paul memes in 2012
color me surprised. So youre just made we’re not making jokes about libertarianism anymore since it’s out of the public spotlight? or am I just missing your many subtle and complex layers of oldfag irony?

Population is similar.

Ron didn't run in 2016.
Trump was/is a supreme shitposter.
Socialism and communism is the same.

Identity politics turn out to be excellent trolling material.

But why should I live through extreme restriction in my middle aged years just because I'm Millennial? It's not fair.

Libertarianism is a fad. Everyone goes through it and then realizes how faggy it was and moved away from it.

You can't have a country, or even a stable economy without a common culture, a set of principles that keep you together. There are numerous areas that are, while perhaps not technically, in practice free from laws. Why don't the libertarian fags go and live there? You'll notice that they pretty much always live in socialist places. Look up any libertarian writer. I can pretty much guarantee you they live in California. If they actually cared so much, they would leave.

It's like when people talk about how great immigrants are. That's well and good until they actually have to live in the same area as some, and then they suddenly shutup. Have you noticed that libshits no longer talk about moving to Europe all the time?

Libertarians are liberals that want to pretend they're smart. They'll claim that everything would work great if we had no borders and private fire departments, all while they take advantage of government programs and bitch about how Christians are the real problem because they're just so edgy. As soon as one of their principles gets challenged by a Democrat, they'll always side with them. See Nick Gillespie's response (he used to be senior editor at Reason) after the fag vs bakery decision. Not forcing association is great until democrats say it isn't, then suddenly NAP is bullshit that we need to sacrifice for the good of the state. As on commenter on the post said, "Nick Gillespie is a libertarian that wants to go to parties." Which explains libertarians perfectly. They're edgy, but not principled.

If tomorrow Democrats declared child rape to be legal, you'll see libertarians writing about how there's nothing wrong with it and children can consent. Libertarianism is all about acting smug and declaring yourself smart, and then cursing that your dumb ideas would work if everyone didn't do what you do.

I came to realize that Libertarianism only works with white populations. Individualism is impossible in a multi-ethnic democracy because tribes will always band to consume the individuals by voting in their perceived group interest.

Empires (one government ruling over many nations) only exist through force, not democratic legitimacy. When a country becomes internally an empire by having many nations within the one country, it's still the same thing even if the nations are dispersed demographically instead of geographically.

Now all threads are a bunch of tryhard fags accusing anything remotely close of a reflexion on a argument to be a JIDF trick. Nowadays the threads are a variety of the classical stormfag accusing anything they dont understand to be a jewish communist trick.

>fiscal responsibility
>economic obsession
>material entanglement
>spiritual deficiency
old Sup Forums and new Sup Forums is shit. Embrace the /xlitpol/

It's not a fad for me. I will keep hanging on to it. I'd rather die than become one of the borg. Yeah make fun of me all you want for it but it's not like I had any social status to begin with.

Stop pretending you know what old Sup Forums was. The only difference from today and back then is that the board is now filled with too many unfunny newfags who forgot to lurk and reddit shills such as yourself.

We got invaded, just like all western countries

>kicking out all the browns and yellows reds and purples is realistic

You didn't get invaded, Sven, you willingly invited them in your country to fuck you.

Oh it's this shill again

t. Alex Jones supplement

>fiscally responsible
you cannot ever be fiscally responsible without a hard asset gold/silver back currency, at least so far in humanity's time. all of us old libertarians have become Nazi's and those of that didn't at least have the courtesy to step out of the way to allow those of us who can, to do what must be done.

I think any good political system should be HEAVILY informed by libertarianism. I would say take libertarianism and add borders, monitor trade so that it benefits the citizens and not just autistically view it in terms of GDP, and pay attention to culture and demographics. Libertarianism on its own is garbage except in a homogenous white state, but the basic principles are what built America, and it's slowly gone to shit as we drifted further down the socialist/interventionist trap

>and it's slowly gone to shit as we drifted further down the socialist/interventionist trap
>and it's slowly gone to shit as we got less white and allowed women to vote

there fixed it for you