Fate Apocrypha

Will it be shit?

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Yes the books where pretty shit.

The point is to let Sumenai stop being shit. Among other things.
I'm looking forward to my half-mermaid queen and "her" fortress.

>The point is to let Sumenai stop being shit.
>jobs to Mordred
>jobs to Karna
>kills himself

Impressive

Maybe not. Looks fun and with interesting characters. People will like it.

Probably not "Grand Order"-shit, but the novels get pretty bad. Can't wait for Extra though.

>make Apocrypha thread.
>put word "shit" in OP.
>???
>profit
Call me once there will be proper thread for Apocrypha.

Oh an anime for it was announced?

Good.

Does it matter? It has Fate in it's name people will worship it regardless if it's good or bad.

The other half will call it shit regardless if it's good or bad for the same reason

Apocrypha is not well regarded and was seen as that one really bad entry until GO happened.

>Fate spin off
>Will it be shit?

Do you even have to ask? Didn't you learn anything in the last 10 years?

The only way for it to not be shit is if the producers choose to kill Sieg and use his death for Astolfo's character development.

It's going to be decent, but grossly overrated, while actually good things slip under the radar. Just like the series has always been.

Strange Fake and el-Melloi Case Files are great so far, faggot. Apocrypha and GO are the only outright bad ones.

Well its better than Stay/Night at least.

>tfw they adapt Apocrypha before Hollow Ataraxia

He starts off hot and then jobs.
F/GO Sumenai is already a jobber.
Anime Sumenai will be his sacrifice.
A vicious, but necessary cycle, isn't it?

Naturally

Low level bait, SN will never be surpassed as the original and peak of the franchise.

Hollow Ataraxia would be fucking terrible, be it a TV series, OVAs or movies. It was made for a VN, it's not good without all the SoL scenes and there's far too many to adapt. Even selecting a few would just creat ridiculous tone shifts with the main story.

> Fate GO Next Order will portray a non-shitter version of Jeanne

man, if only Sieg wasn't around in Fate/Apoc.

The reason I'm watching FGO is because I want to see Sensei animated, possibly along with OP Caster Cu Chulainn. Cu was cool as fuck in Caster mode. I do not care if he prefer to be summoned as Lancer.

Too bad, first Order was shit tier

Exactly.
>fate
>not shit
Pick one.

And the rest will have the same level of care put into it (or even worse) because that's what a trashy mobile game deserves. Just go look for fanart and doujins if you want to fap to the waifus, they're certain to be better quality than whatever anime you get.

I wouldn't pass it off, since the storytelling picks up in Murica and towards Babylon, and finally the Last Order.

Maybe, but not really worth it when the main protagonists suck ass.

I'd like to think that Fate/Grand Order isn't about Ritsuka's journey, but the servant's themselves.

Mashu and Dr. Roman.

MC's just there to be poster boy, and be support.

Much like how DW treats their players, the players are underappretiated, but the servants are well appretiated, some over appretiated.

Why do people keep saying Apocrypha sucked? and in Vol.2 and so far its been pretty good.

It starts good but the end is shit supposedly. They also switch the MC to a bad attempt at copying Shirou.

CLUSTERFUCK OF THE YEAR

We won't see CasCu again, and will have to wait until America to see Scathach and Cu again.

I am more excited about Camelot and Babylone, King Hassan trashing Gawain under the sun so hard he gave him PTSD was good.

user, if they ever animate the side events, we'll see Scathach faster.

Fate Apocrypha is kind of devoid of any intelligence whatsoever, but fuck it. At this rate we'll get Strange Fake by 2020

Really, GO would be AOTY if they just stuck to the events.

>there are waifufag whales who actually believe this

or Gudako as MC, because she already has a good existing personality.

Grand Carnival Phantasm when?

Hope, I'll live long enough to see my main man animated.

>Gudako isn't the protag of FGO
>Mamo isn't the protag of Fate Extra
>It isn't Fate Extra CCC aka Umineko done right

Looking forward to that most of all if all of GO is eventually animated.

This would be appreciated.

Fate is shit overall. It's the same 'tournament' over and over.

It looks like shit, so yes

>or Gudako as MC, because she already has a good existing personality.

Do you people really convince yourselves of this retarded meme just to pretend your arbitrarily contrarian hipster opinion is anything but that?

There is zero difference between the two protagonists and by DWs own stats, the male one is overwhelmingly preferred by the playerbase. That's it. Just because you read a webcomic where the character acts nothing like in the game, it doesn't make it the character's personality real, especially since the few scenes where the main character's input is actually meaningful wouldn't work with that meme character.

You want to know what the female protagonist is like? Make the male one's voice sharper, replace all references to gender for female ones and there you go. That's literally what you're going on about.

t. hasn't watched more than 1 entry in the series

Eh, the Fate GO protag can be replaced by a log for all they matter. Might as well make them a cute grill.

It will be good until Sumanai dies and Sieg comes back to life.

this desu

This way Nasu can squeeze in non-degenerate romance though.

For the last fucking time, Riyo Gudako isn't canon.

As it should be.

Also wanted to avoid just being nothing but memes a bit too.

Zelretch killed Crimson Moon who himself prepare to fight CG. If remember KnK Spiral Paradox, we can assume Zelretch was Counter Force pawn too.

This is the first time in a long while that I've hoped the director rewrotes the story during the adaptation process.

Hell I'd be fucking content if it even managed to just reduce Sieg's screentime and made the ending somber instead of having the dragon and grail escape shit.

This. In fact, Zel in FSF seems to want to prevent ORT awakening and fucking up that timeline, he clearly works in favor of the Counter Force.
Him helping to build the Grail is not an action against humanity, getting it corrupted in the first place was an incredibly uncommon ocurrence, and the CF won't go after every single link in a butterfly effect reaction, it only stops the extinction event when it actually happens.

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Fate/Strange Fake is translated
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At least in the beginning, Mashu has free time with Gudao.

I wonder when it'll start to turn to shit. Narita is really good at establishing a large cast with some interesting characters and playing them off eachother, but fucking sucks at writing a conclusion and plotting long-term character development arcs.

That pic is missing a lot of servants who are hot for Gudao's dick.

The Fate franchise has been pure putrid garbage for over 10 years. Why would this be different?

You mean all of them if you pull them and level them up? They all have flat, uni-dimensional personalities and their only character development is beginning to lust for player character because there is no effort put into GO's writing.

Sieg was the biggest fucking mistake.

I'll watch half of the anime.

Semi's semis are the only reason to watch this.

right now Fake seem pretty good, but i'm stucked with the manga.

They're below a certain threshold though for sanity. Then again, Serenity is a bit misplaced there.

I hope never. And setting is pretty different, so I don't thing he can fail.
>True Servants
>DA
>Counter Force cocks out of nowhere
It's too good.

Nah.

It will be good even if solely for Mordred and Astolfo getting animated.

That alone will make it all worth it.

Halloween event notes those three as the most tenacious. Literal would swim through lava levels of lust.

>You mean all of them if you pull them and level them up?
It's more like 1/5 max tbqh.
>They all have flat, uni-dimensional personalities and their only character development is beginning to lust for player character because there is no effort put into GO's writing.
In My Room lines? Sure.
In the actual Orders? Nah, after Septim DW and Nasu got their shit together and started putting effort in. Guda/ko is still just a self insert with minimal personality because of the nature of the game but the side-cast get some more effort put into them.

I'm only going to watch the second half for Kiara/Mordred and Amakusa pulling the greatest bullshit possible out of his ass to keep his plan going.

Making Aclides half-Avenger was a fucking mistake already. Just give us Archer Herc already, he might've required some of these ultra-OP Servants to actually work together for a while. Plus therea are actually enough to take 12 of his lives without just GoB spam.

Who's that dashing motherfucker?

Gudako MC would have the same dead fish personality Ritsuko (or whatever name they gave him) has
if you want the meme character you should hope for serialized anime with her doing the episode pvs.

>A-1
>Doing a Fantasy Series
But hey maybe them butchering the canon like they did with NnT will be good.

>Hey, let's have fourteen servants fighting each other. That'd be awesome.
>Then lets make this random homunculus protagonist and give him all the power ups.
It never had a chance to begin with.

>it's OK because it gets better later on
>making a self-insert for fat otakus who just play it to fap to waifus is "the nature of the game"
Yeah, no shit. Sasuga FGO apologists, you're all waifufags who wouldn't care in the slightest if Nasu decided to scrap all of the Nasuverse and just made a spin-off with Servants on a beach vacation for the rest of his life.

That just makes me more certain he'll fuck it up to be honest. The fact that he's piling on so much stuff to raise the stakes instead of taking a more leveled approach has me worried that the breakneck pace will end with a trainwreck.

Is this how you console yourself about not being able to read it?

Don't forget the part where his incredibly bland romance is supposed to be the emotional backbone of the story.
Why are you so mad about a game you're clearly unfamiliar with? Is it really some great sin to have a gaiden game for the franchise in your eyes that it overshadows every other aspect of the story?

>jobs to Mordred
Wasn't this really Sieg? He was dead at that point.

Not him but
>can't actually deny anything he said
Good God FGO really is irredeemably shit.

> Is it really some great sin to have a gaiden game for the franchise in your eyes that it overshadows every other aspect of the story?
Absolutely.

Well, it has Mordred so that's something. And pic related are fun so it won't be complete shit.

These three should have been the protagonists tbqh. If Sieg's story was cut entirely and Siegfried himself was given the role, with him plus Jeanne and Astolfo being the antagonists, the story would have been far better.

Following a nominal villain squad trying to save the world in their own fucked up way while the actual heroes try their hardest to stop them would be a lot more interesting than the shit we got.

I really don't understand the point of Sieg.

>Is it really some great sin to have a gaiden game for the franchise in your eyes that it overshadows every other aspect of the story?
It's a bit of a stretch to wave it off as a gaiden game when it's probably made more money than anything else Nasu has ever done. It's never going to go away and if Nasu wants money he'll probably direct effort away from his other projects towards FGO.

>You will never see Raikou get into a catfight with other tittymonster servants over Gudao

I'm convinced he was meant to be a self-insert for teen boys.

Undoubtedly.

>You will never embrace Mary lovingly, shouldering her weight as she collapses and sobs in joy over having found someone she can touch

Nice. I like that.

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, I kind of get the idea. I mean, homunculus have been a part of the Fate/ franchise for a while but we have never really gone in depth on the subject. In that sense, a character like Seig was not a bad idea in theory.

This just really wasn't the proper story for him to take center stage. It already had too much character (and characters) so he just feels tacked on.

You're right, because in actuality she'd try to vaporize them with lightning.

Post Astolfo.

Even better.

It'll be okay.

I put my hand on hers without even thinking about it.

Fucking CHRIST what is wrong with me?

t. Gudao

Cute.

You long for death?

>fate
yes it'll be shit

Wouldn't exactly be a first; at first glance Shirou and Shiki are both basically typical self-insert characters. They did have more going on under the surface though.

It still blows my mind that Nasu thought Shirou made for a good self-insert. Shiki had his moments of insanity, but besides that he fit the bill quite nicely. Shirou was just wrong for it though.

You can't expect people to properly self-insert as a sword-autist with such a unique set of morals and s pre-established history that plays a major role in the story, except for maybe in the sex scenes since all of that becomes irrelevant and he just sounds like a standard ero protag with a bit of a seafood kink.

...

I'm sick of seeing Gudao.

I want fucking Gudako!