So, since SJW-zilla shit the bed with Quantum, what are you guys using to keep your shit secure? I'm currently using a firejailed Waterfox (allows old add-ons like old NoScript, Random Agent Spoofer, Flash Control, and DNSSEC/TLSA Validator) as my regular browser, but when I don't want to fiddle with the settings, I open up a firejailed Brave.
Is there anything better out there?
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Waterfox with uBlock and uMatrix (double protection) and https everywhere
What's wrong with Quantum?
t. FF59 nightly user
(Gonna use it until Brave gets extension support)
This.
What do you mean? Quantum is the best update in years in my book.
I'm not really missing any addons. Using uMatrix, uBlock Origin, HTTPs everywhere, Greasemonkey and New Tab Tools.
The only issue I have with it is on one of my android devices. Not working properly for whatever reason.
Also don't forget to install the (((coincidence))) detector.
HTTPS Everywhere is a given. I was specifically referencing add-ons/extensions that weren't available for Quantum.
Go and try downloading DNSSEC/TLSA Validator for Quantum. It's a very important add-on, AND it's available in the Chrome Store, so "extensions only" isn't an excuse.
Proof:
chrome.google.com
chrome.google.com
I don't get it, what is everyone complaining about?
The best spoofer (Random Agent Spooofer) doesn't work. DNSSEC/TLSA Validator doesn't work. Flash control (which also controls HTML5, even embedded shit) doesn't work. My 1.50 per month VPN (DotVPN) doesn't work. NoScript got turned into hot garbage.
That's 40% of my addons either gone, or turned to shit.
No it isn't. Certificates can be faked now. Those addons look like vulnerability waiting to happen
>He states, with no evidence given.
i am using waterfox, but.... it sucks
and firefox arent GOOD, theyre just less evil than google
but im writing that in a chrome browser, because... i still have it installed, and i use it whenever the inadequacies of firefox get to me
They say they require external binaries. All the shit your complaining about in that other post cam be done with umatrix
Waterfox is good, I also use Chromium with googleshit like webrtc and sync stripped out
Mozilla has nothing to do with extensions working. Developers had an ample amount of time to update to the new web kit API, so blame them.
la51.icann.org
It's pretty obvious you haven't researched much about DANE. DNSSEC and TLSA both getting spoofed is pretty much impossible. The company itself would have to be maliciously doing it, not an outsider.
>The best spoofer (Random Agent Spooofer) doesn't work
This is legit criticism, but uMatrix took over the most of functionality of it. I thought I was going to drop firefox until someone pointed pic related to me.
>DNSSEC/TLSA Validator doesn't work.
No clue
>using flash at all
Uninstall that shit. There is nothing relevant to be accessed with flash.
>My 1.50 per month VPN (DotVPN) doesn't work.
I recommend avoiding any VPN that is not accessible via openvpn. Also
>not getting a VPN from humble bundle
I still have an unused 1year of VPN just sitting there.
>NoScript got turned into hot garbage.
uMatrix is the superior NoScript anyway. If you're not using uMatrix, start yesterday.
Netscape in a VM.
Once again, DNSSEC/TLSA Validator has Exentsion versions work for Chrome. The APIs do not exist for Firefox Quantum.
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certificates have always been able to be faked, which is the point of signing them
>Uninstall that shit. There is nothing relevant to be accessed with flash.
Already have. It also blocks HTML5, with a click to activate (avoiding the embedded shit).
mfw long term Opera user.
Comfy as fuck (don't ask me about Opera Mini though).
They're not certificates if they're not signed, moron.
I use Google Chrome because I like the idea of some dumb cunt unironically thinking spying on me is a valuable use of their time.
Keys got stolen they can fake with signature now look it up
Exactly. It's relevant to know that, say, pic related didn't even match Sup Forums's security.
What's wrong with not updating?
Seems like placebo to me but more power to you
Nothing you can use ESR if you want too
A shitload of old addons don't work anymore - yes, you can edit some values in about:config and return them, but that's getting nixed soon. Soon, you'll be forced to either wait for a WebExtensions rewrite of the addon, or to find an alternative.
Palemoon with NoScript. I remember Sup Forums freaking out about waterfox being botnet hard last summer so I won't touch it.
Thoughts on Vivaldi???
It has some cool features, and it can use chrome extensions, but I have no idea how secure it is.
You shouldn't be going without security fixes. Waterfox is keeping Firefox's old sytle (with add-ons), and still getting the security updates.
>Seems like placebo to me but more power to you
Even if it is, firejail not working on Quantum certainly isn't a "missing placebo." That's pretty vital shit right there.
And, yes, the profile is there. I literally created a profile for Waterfox, so I know how to configure firejail.
Not a fan of closed-source, although a fair bit of Sup Forums seems to approve.
Personally I avoid anything that uses WebKit
Ive been having an awful problem with firefox being slow where it wont "perform a TLS handshake" correctly when trying to connect to any websites on my computer, and makes it insanely slow. It seems like ever since this downloaded my other browser (just ie) is the same.
Is there any way to fix this? Nothing I have tried has worked. Thinking of getting Maxthon or something, is that still a thing? Not sure if waterfox is related to firefox but if it is they can fk off
What are your thoughts about WebKit, sir?
Since BS quantum downloaded I mean
I'm sorry, but I'm not into browser tech.
My FF is very similar to what it was 10 years ago. Some good add-ons and whatnot. Almost all of them incompatible with their new bullshit.
So I just figure I'll sit tight until it become unusable then toss it for a browser with proper add-ons.
Use different DNS servers
You can sandbox using other programs
>Sup Forums
>post-2015
They praised the fuck out of Windows 10 last time I went there. Vivaldi is indeed nice, but don't take Sup Forums's opinions at face value.
Waterfox is just a guy taking and modifying FF's code. It was originally created to make FF 64-bit, before FF did it themselves. Now, it's being used to keep the old add-ons, while getting FF Quantum's security updates (it can ALSO use Web Extensions, too, so you don't have to pick one or the other).
Maxthon is a thing.
Botnet
>You can sandbox using other programs
Yeah, I just need to keep bending over backwards to get Quantum to work for me.... or I could just use Waterfox, and ditch out on their SJW bullshit.
Yes better install chrome and have Googleupdate.exe running at all times
I don't. But, to be fair, whenever someone talks up Windows 10, they just relentlessly call them Pajeet.
Apple love seems to be more common.
Or, I could just use Waterfox, and ditch out on BOTH SJW-ridden companies.
>what are self-signed certificates
>what are spoofs
don't reply to me ever again
If you don't mind deprecated code and slower performance go for it
i cant read shit my nigga
Shiiiieeeet
At the moment, it's literally using FF's ESR. As for the slower performance, security and privacy trumps speed any day. It's not like Waterfox is going at TOR speeds.
Is Waterfox developed by one guy who bans stuff like the palemoon guy who banned adnaseaum
test
wrong board dumass
Nope. No banning of anything.
Waterfox, I even use the android app mozilla fucked the tab queuing features in New update
If I install Linux again I will check it out
You can test it on Windows, too, you know. But honestly, it wasn't my intention to push it. But its definitely going to be picked before Quantum (and I'll have Brave as my non-tinfoil backup, when I just want shit to work quickly). I was hoping to try alternatives myself. Ones that were recommended by others.
yea sure it wasn't you just started the thread with the logo and defend it vehemently
Only against Quantum, which you seemed hellbent on pushing, for whatever reason. I'd already made it pretty clear that I wasn't going to be using it in the OP.
kek
>what are self-signed certificates
Worthless garbage.
because its make firefox great again and I hate people who hold back software progress with grandpa mentality.
Why shouldnt I just use the normal Firefox with quantum? Except the reason old addons dont work?
That's all well and good. But, as stated, you pushed it.
Firejail doesn't work for it, either. Dunno if that's a concern of yours or not (depends on your OS). If you're unfamiliar with it, then know that it makes browsing the web a LOT safer. It basically sandboxes your browser, only giving them access to your downloads folder.
because its good software that will drive people away from chrome. waterfox also seems good so I will push that too for people using deprecated addons that don't receive updates anymore.
Quantum is leaps and bound ahead of Chrome, simply because it still offers about:config. Chrome can't touch it.
I have no issue with you stating that Quantum is better than Chrome, because I can't see how Chrome is better in any meaningful way. Hell, if firejail worked for it, I'd be using Quantum as a backup instead of Brave (firejail works on Brave). That said, I will dispute anyone who says Quantum is the best browser for all people, no matter their wants/needs.
>Firejail doesn't work for it
It most certainly does.
See: It does not.
>muh firejail
learn to sandbox properly with a VM if you so worried about a browser exploit
I'm happy with firejail, thanks.
So what exactly are the dangers of internet browsing, as long as you're not into child porn?
I never understood the fear about being tracked on the internet.
For starters, this guy is right. Secondly, unless you have social media accounts, it's very hard to pin internet activity to a person directly.
I lost downloadthemall and that was enough for me to revert to an older version.
jesus you are completely wrong on every point. congratulations
>So what exactly are the dangers of internet browsing, as long as you're not into child porn?
Firejail wouldn't protect against that at all. Feel free to do a little research on it, because it sounds as stupid as saying, "you don't need to block any sort of malicious malware unless you're looking at child porn."
This guyand I have been having quite the back and forth, but we both agree that you sound absolutely retarded.
So where am I going to run into malicious software?
If I could give you a list of places that would last for all time, then nobody would need firejail. That's like asking which public Wifi access points will datamine your banking info if you enter it in while connected via said public Wifi..
add Cookie AutoDetet and you have perfect browser
Wait...
You know people put in their banking details over public Wifi?
Holy shit looool!
We that's why I sound retarded to you. I don't conceive of doing shit like that. I don't even save financial-related login details or card numbers.
The card I use for online shopping isn't my main card either, it's a toss-away account. I sound retarded because the idea of making such bumbling mistakes while on the internet is alien to me.
That's asinine.
>not using vivaldi
not going to make it
>We that's why I sound retarded to you. I don't conceive of doing shit like that. I don't even save financial-related login details or card numbers.
What the fuck are you babbling about? You asked which websites would have you running into malicious software. I told you how stupid the question you asked sounded by giving you an example of an equally stupid question.
For someone with a Pirate flag, you seem REALLY fucking stupid.
I'm still using an older version of Firefox but it sounds like I'll be switching to Waterfox.
yeah i use the latter. i prefer it over waterfox but in either case as long as i can run BTTV then i'm good
I use waterfox because of the legacy extension support, however it crashes on certain websites because of Vimperator :(
Seconding Chromium. Chromium has its faults, but it's amazing on legacy computers.
>You asked which websites would have you running into malicious software.
Tell me. Which sites? I've been on the internet since the mid 90s using all sorts of outdated programs to view this motherfucker, and never ran into this issue. Then again, I don't go to shitty websites to begin with.
Sounds like you fags are browsing more than just exhentai.
>Then again, I don't go to shitty websites to begin with.
But you're here. Anyways, your accusations don't hold much water: www.makeuseof.com/tag/websites-likely-infect-malware/
>Pale Moon
>Pale Moon
>Pale Moon
Literally the only unjewed and functionally good browser. Uninstall whatever other garbage you have.
Pale moon blocks certain add-ons by default. Immediate disqualification.
You seem a bit too enthusiastic about your browser though.
That alone makes me question things. Now, I think you're probably legit, but there's always that danger...
>using a browser made by a furry enthusasist
What does any of that have to do with Firejail, which you can use with almost any browser?
are you the developer of firejail or something?
Not at all. But you talking about my browser choice has nothing to do with firejail.
>linux mint
oh ok do your thing than
Yeah, I know. Got sick of having to constantly fuck with Arch. I don't use any of the shit Linux Mint conflicts with on this laptop, anyways, so I just said "Fuck it," and did it, instead of taking the time to customize Ubuntu. Really lazy on my part, I admit, but on my actual workhorse, I'm still using Arch.
First thing I really wanna know is, WTF changed where Mozilla had to change the entire structure of their browser so quickly and radically?
Why shit all over the ONE THING that made FF useful? I mean you might as well use Chrome now for all it matters.
I'll keep an eye out on Waterfox. See how it develops. If it proves safe and accepts the add-ons I have now, I'll swap.
Developer Edition now includes “Quantum CSS,” an entirely new CSS engine written in Rust and based on the Servo parallel browser engine project. Additionally, the “Quantum Flow” team tracked down and fixed 369 performance bugs in Firefox, with a special focus on responsiveness and UI interactions. Lastly, the “Quantum DOM” project began overhauling how Firefox prioritizes work, responding more quickly to events like user input while delaying less urgent computations until the browser is idle.
The result? Compared to Firefox six months ago, today’s Developer Edition is twice as fast on benchmarks like Speedometer 2.0 that simulate the real-world performance of modern web applications.
>First thing I really wanna know is, WTF changed where Mozilla had to change the entire structure of their browser so quickly and radically?
It's been planned for a really long time, dude. I'd say at least a year.
>Why shit all over the ONE THING that made FF useful?
Because its user base was constantly shrinking anyways. Them staying on the current course would lead to a slow death.
>I mean you might as well use Chrome now for all it matters.
Not at all, unless Chrome has about:config.