What caused the decline of the US car industry?

What caused the decline of the US car industry?

Niggers. And jews.

Peanut brain Americans

Elon Musk

unions

regulation in the 80s turned them all into ugly econoboxes
then the japs just surpassed them in quality

Shitty cars.

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Emissions and safety regulations.

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Faggots.

b b bbut Opel is owned by gm

Unions and environmental regulation. American muscle died in 1971.

>Opel

Nigger, they loose 7.500 Dollars on every car they sell. FUCK opel.

didnt peugeot buy them now?
the late 80s and early 90s were great(besides rust)
dad had one with 600k km, and neighbour 900k km. the engine never broke down.

Unions and regulations made it too expensive to make cars in America, leading the automobile industry to move overseas. The government then failed to impose regulations that would make building cars overseas more expensive.

Ultimately, the US government did a half-ass job. If you're going to regulate an industry, regulate it fully. Don't give them an out because they will take the exit.

The corporate culture of American automakers haven't changed much either. It's one fat off of the excess this country provides and the cars reflect this. They're big, some are stupidly powerful and capable, but it seems to come at a cost.

Some design aspects are very suspect. I think it's a mix of not giving a shit, time thievery, and cost cutting that's responsible for poor designs in American auto. I remember for the new Chevy Silverados that the gearing mechanism for the sunglasses holder is not only in plain sight but smeared with thick layers of friction grease that gets everywhere in hot days, never mind the GM ignition defect that's on over a decade of vehicle models.

Ford has yet to reconcile the death wobble on some F150s, and the driveshafts on U.S. Transits got recalled because they didn't bother to paint them. Not that German vans are better, they clog up due to shitty U.S. diesel and really strict emissions regs.

The little things in American cars add up to the point where people who aren't diehard Big Three fans just go elsewhere. The cars definitely work but they could always do better where the details count.

The US machine tool industry did not keep pace with Japan's. This meant that by the mid 1970s the Japanese were able to produce better cars than the US both in terms of reliability and vehicle life. The US has been playing catch up ever since.

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More cars than ever are made here.

The Griswald family station wagon.

plastic

Unions. Plain and simple the unions and the entitlement mentality they breed.

Unions
Shitty q/c
Poor quality materials
Corner cutting from Corporate

Yes! Don't unionize Goyim!

The joke about aluminum fords. Do all that work to lighten the truck and it still has shitty mileage.

Because cars like OPs picture are gone.

Ever changing safety standards are making cars much bigger and uglier than previous generations. Manufacturers taking shortcuts and using shit tier materials to build the cars, and making them so its impossible for the common man to do what should be simple part swaps so they can make money off of you when you bring it to the dealership. Favoring dashboard gadgets and gizmos like touchscreen headunits and shit like that rather than actual features that are important in the car.

I pretty much refuse to buy a car post 2005

Poor people.
The average american can't afford to spend their annual income on a car every 4 or 5 years

wooden car lmao

Funny but not true at all. Toyota, Hyundai, Honda and Kia is more correct.

US cars

Taxes

I think Ford killed it with the new F-150s, they handle great.

This.
Union's protected workers and raised wages so much that workers literally came to work drunk and made broken cars, that were way overpriced compared to jap cars.

>What caused the decline of the US car industry?

- Corporatists declaring war on their own workers. -
- Executives bankrupting their companies with ridiculous compensation while the infrastructure they need to produce products decays.
- Why produce a decent product when you can tie the government in knots and make free market competition impossible?

Audi is such a fucking ripoff. $600 for a blower motor that I installed myself on my wife's car. I can't wait to get rid of it.

Cost of gasoline and the car itself. Manufacturers turn a huuuuge profit due to cost of materials and efficiency of production and somehow the stupid goyim continue to go into crippling debt to drive their subpar vehicles

the unions went too far, the corporations responded by outsourcing. that, and niggers overunning the cities where the factories were, making it unlivable

Anti-union Bankster/CIA Coalition.
But more than that, the laws of capitalism.

greed

They're opening a factory in china. Be prepared for mass recalls of cars due to driveshaft and electrical failures.

Awesome, ain't it?

New or used?

This is a big one. Daily reminder that Japanese and German workers were never permitted to unionize like American workers. Eventually the union workers bled the companies dry. Is it any wonder that American cars were shittier because they had to pay their workers more than twice as much while pricing the cars the same?

Of course there are other issues as well with management and design. The fat cats really couldn't conceive of how to design and market the more economical cars in demand after the 70s. If you want to make a car cooler you make it bigger and faster. The idea of a smaller car being cool was almost anathema unless it was exclusively a sports car.

I remember one time my dad telling me that some executive wanted to make a 2 door coupe version of a Crown Victoria. How fucking retarded is that, it's mostly old people that drive them and they don't need a big fucking door, neither do cops.

Put simply, US companies could make cars as good as the Japs if they wanted to, but they got lazy and were also forced by market realities to make a cheaper product. Due to labor costs it is less money for Japanese companies to make nicer cars than American ones. That's what's so fucked up about it.

cars that guzzle too much gas and the nations you wish to import them to dont want them due to pollution and cost to run them

american cars look cool but some of them are like 10 miles to the gallon

FUCK all of you fucking pieces of shit! Italians make the best cars

I hope you all fucking die

Carter and late 70s leftcucks worried about gas shortage and high hp.

pic related is your average retarded english owned mercedes

the state of br*Tish """"""automobiles""""""

BMW or nothing

Are youyou retarded?
We have unions and our unions are way more powerful and have much more to say in the businesses of our car companies.
But here's the difference:
Our unions LIKE the companies they work at, WANT them to succeed and AREN'T ungrateful cunts so they can cut back and sacrifice when it's necessary.

Yes, much better to have the union extort companies to provide jobs where workers are paid 2-3 times as much as they should be paid for a short while even thouh it destroys the industry rather than have a healthy industry where workers are paid a wage commensurate with the actual value of their input.

Nah make nothing beats a holden cunts

wrong

nvm mind they moved to china

THIS

90s and early 2000s-Mid Japanese cars are nice.
Muscle cars me thinks were good in 60s-80s.
However Holden/falcon utes in Australia during the 2000s and even the sedans to some extent were fast, high powered, family sedans and reliable.
Even the 6 cylinders punched about their weight in terms of price.
European cars in the 90s were great also, but very pricey here, also their newer cars. A Decent BMW M3's from the 90s is currently one of things that is going up in price due to it's rarity and popularity. Think it's the same with the Mazda rx7 from the 90s.

As for the US car Industry, increase in wages probably hurt it the most. And the opportunity for them to move manufacturing in their factories overseas.

Automation may play also play a factor in this.
However, much of the engine assembly is still done by hand by many car companies in Europe and Japan. Doing it by hand is best for the manufacturing line because it is easier to get a human knowledgeable on engine construction to quality control on the assembly as it is going through the line. They may identify faults in either the manufacturing line process or even with the construction itself.

Basically. Bring manufacturing to the country to which they are the biggest consumers.

American Muscle died the year the Mustang II came into being.

Not that the Mustang was the epitome of muscle, but the move to the next version was indicative of the industry at large.

American car companies turned in to pension and healthcare funds that make cars on the side. Same thing with the old British companies like Leyland.

I will answer factually. The oil crisis in the 70's and the price of Japan made vehicles once they were allowed to be sold here in the us.

shitty designs and quality controls, really

The mustang 2 was basically a ford pinto

The US largely ignored W. Edwards Deming, whereas Japan embraced his ideas & expanded on them thru Taiichi Ohno's advancements in Lean Manufacturing

Absolutely.
The workforce here sees joining a union, at least as far as auto industry goes, as a steady paycheck with guaranteed retirement benefits. They don't care about what they do, how they do it or who they do it for. It's just a check.
Failure to instill pride of craftsmanship or ability to find craftsmen willing to do the job superbly for the offered compensation. Unions have been a boon and bane to the auto industry. Starting wages are too high for incompetence and too low for quality. Manufacturing has been reduced to quality tolerances instead of just high quality because the people they have to do the work don't care enough to try.

How can we compete with the super organization and discipline japs and Germans bring to the table? Look around you the 56% meme is true, aside from pure blooded early English settlers in New England we have no strong genetic lineage to pull from.

Holden were doomed otherwise. It was really difficult for them to continue making their cars in Australia due to the cost of wages. This is why high wages are a shit idea when you have a global economy.
Why should I buy a Holden if I can buy a car with the same features and better fuel economy from an Asian country with lower wages and hence lower cost on the car. Sure you've got shipping prices, but when you account that you can send many cars on one ship that cost is negated. One car is expensive but many is not as you are paying a similar cost for fuel (A slight increase).
This is why I don't like idea of an entirely global economy.

American automotive history from the 1970s to the early 2000s is all pretty bad tbqh

>What caused the decline of the US car industry?

The use of Japanese steel in the 1970s caused cars to rust out in no time.

My fathers 1970 Mercury had a total body job in 1972, another body job in 1974 that required the replacement of a door, and in 1976 it was parkd for scrap.

In 1973, this same car had huge holes in the floor.

Pic: similar car 1970 Mercury Monterey

look at this car
everything about it says i am a depressed grunt worker who should kill myself

why wouldnt americans want this in front of their trailer home

the free market

This. Why would they relocate to southern states that are right to work instead of staying in shitlib union money drains?

Also German cars, even run of the mill VWs, not just fancy BMs and MBs are engineered to run at 100mph cruise on the autobahn as a matter of course. American cars are made shitty cause they're gonna spend half their life sitting in gridlock. If only German cars weren't so expensive to repair.

What's more expensive than a new Mercedes? Owning a used one.

road bends

>worker sabotage and pranks

in June 2001 Queen Elizabeth II’s Jaguar was found to contain pornographic magazines tucked into a cavity and a swastika painted behind a seat panel.

>swastika painted behind a seat panel.

These discoveries were made during
bombproofing of her new auto. According to a Jaguar spokesman, such pranking is “… one of those old traditions where people used to write things behind the seat panel of cars and they were never discovered unless there was an accident.” He stated the practice had been common when he was an apprentice: “I have never understood if it’s for good luck or what, but the person knows that the owner of the car will never see it. There are hundreds of cars of all makes going round like that."

BMW has past its prime. They make front wheel drive cars now ffs. I'm on my 3rd BMW but I won't own another built past 2013. They just don't feel good any more. Pic related was the 2nd one I owned.

>t. BMW technician

>top tier American sports cars cost less than the shittiest Euro counterpart
shit materials and shit build quality. I will always love the sound of a X-plane V8

>Basically. Bring manufacturing to the country to which they are the biggest consumers.
One other thing I wanna add is that countries like China do not consume a most of the products they produce, it goes overseas to another country and then is given an upmarket based upon the value that is placed upon it from other products that are similar for competitiveness + cost of delivery + up marketing the price + customer interest/satisfaction based on marketing or anticipation in the specific nation/culture.
Higher wages in the country to which might be the highest consumer might help support an industry for this product, but at the expensive of lower-middle income jobs. Do you want a wealthy middle-high to high income earners or a strong working middle class (Not just to do with cars)?
Seems like mentality of the government by setting high wages and preventing middle income earners from finding jobs, favors this. Fucking dumb socialists.

Daily reminder that the German workers at VW have several seats on the Board and much of the capital is STATE owned.

>American sports cars

Mexican manufcaturing.

>Our unions LIKE the companies they work at, WANT them to succeed and AREN'T ungrateful cunts so they can cut back and sacrifice when it's necessary.

This. UK/US unionised worker-employer relationship is very antagonistic. Resent your work and it'll soon be gone.

American sport cars are aimed at a difference market. Where as yours favor luxury + "sportiness" (how it feels on the road, how it accelerates, how fast it goes, how nice the interior is), America sports cars favor pure power over most of all as that tends to sell more.
This is probably due to the average burger consumer being a low educated "power = more" type of person.

Except Lamborghini is owned by the Germans

>Why should I buy a Holden if I can buy a car with the same features and better fuel economy from an Asian country with lower wages and hence lower cost on the car.

Because you're supposed to be in support of your national brethren. You should say, "I'll pay a little extra for a car so my neighbors have money and don't fail our country with crime and welfare."

Clever. I don't see how it leads to failure of an automobile.

Stop lights, homey. We have the room to go straight for a long time and the asshole at the light with the Camry can eat shit.

Now you're going to explain how any of your important fromage wagons are superior to the Ford GT.

That might be enough for you and me. But not enough for the average consumer. If you want to construct your new company on this philosophy, be my guest, but I can't guarantee its success.

Yeah, but you are buying unreliable piece of shit that will break down 15 times before 100k miles and will constantly be recalled because there is a chance the car will catch on fire because it is an abosulte piece of shit made by niggers in Detroit

Fuck American cars.. I will continue buying a BMW every 5 years thank you

emissions regulations, literally nothing else.

Best cars ever.

You don't have to send a letter to Audi explaining why you should be allowed to buy an R8

Nothing compares

Cannot be beaten.

Cool car bro

The life of an Italian millionaire

You may think you hate it now, but wait till you drive it

Wifey in the backseat, yeah this is the life

Who wrote 'honky lips' on Clark Griswald's car, is the better question here.