IQ Realism

I realized recently that even though it's illogical to do so, I have a bit of a sense of smugness/superiority because of my level of intelligence despite the fact that I did nothing to actually earn my intelligence. It's just something I was born with. And that realization was actually quite disheartening - something I've always taken so much pride in is something I didn't even earn.

Given that IQ is directly correlated with economic success, it does seem pretty unfair that low IQ people are destined for a life of squalor purely because of something that is completely predetermined and out of their control.

Additionally, even though we have a seemingly natural inclination to hate niggers for their subhuman IQs, and subsequently their desire for gibs, it's not rational to hate them for it because, again, it's not something they chose, they were just born that way.

Should society in some way compensate for our differing IQs ie. regarding wealth, etc? People tend to focus on things like race or "class" (postmodernist bullshit) but the ultimate differing factor between people is their IQ.

>Additionally, even though we have a seemingly natural inclination to hate niggers for their subhuman IQs, and subsequently their desire for gibs, it's not rational to hate them for it because, again, it's not something they chose, they were just born that way.

Now that I'm thinking about this more, I think I'm correct here, that it is irrational to hate them for it, however I don't think we should then also feel compelled to live alongside them and see them as equals.

If you moved a bunch of literal monkeys into your cities and they started destroying it, you wouldn't be right for hating them because they're just monkeys. But maybe you shouldn't have moved the monkeys into your cities?

You don’t need a high IQ to do labor, or even most office jobs. You’ll be dumber, ask for less raises and tend to shop around for jobs longer, but nothing stops these people from working for a living. Hell there’s some of jobs a 65 IQ fucktard could do well. Having low IQ just locks you out of gigs that absolutely require college-level education, research jobs, management and clever networking. In essence, it condemns you to being middle class at most, but that’s not such a bad thing.

I wouldn’t worry about brainlets, OP. If they’re ethnic minorities that primarily have low IQ, help your local jurisdiction or province implement indirectly non-white discriminatory laws. If you don’t care about race or if they’re white, I wouldn’t worry about them either because they’ll still be able to take care of themselves.

>having empathy for serial killers who murdered your family because of their low IQ or broken homes or anything out of their control.

Cuck.

Hating things is childish behavior. The question is what kind of society we want.

New advancements in gene-editing technology will shift the premise of the debate and this great experiment will only get more chaotic. It is naive to hold an ideological position at this point. We need more knowledge but this is a forbidden science. There will probably be some serious suppression to hide inconvenient truths.

>I wouldn’t worry about them either because they’ll still be able to take care of themselves.

>niggers
>take care of themselves

>"class" (postmodernist bullshit)

Didn't Marx write the communist manifesto in the 1840s?

>itt: would you pay a niggers welfare happily if he admitted inferiority

I’d argue that the niggers would be great lower class labor if they weren’t concentrated in cities and had their welfare cut. We literally wouldn’t need Mexicans because we’d just have niggers mowing our lawns like we’re supposed to. You also have to realize that Jews supported Negro movement into cities because they thought whites would accept them and at the time there were many jobs in cities. The kikes didn’t realize the whites would just pack up and move to suburbs or the country, nor did they realize technology and (((economics))) would send the jobs that are rightfully the niggers’ to Mexico and China. So, basically kikes tried to help Niggers live better and make whites less racist with one of their retarded plots, but ended up doing exactly the opposite. Not the niggers fault, they should be working for whitey right this moment, not slinging dope and getting drunk in run-down cities.

Technically “postmodernism” is the era of philosophy that followed the writings of Immanuel Kant, and the modern era was beforehand. He lived in the 1700’s and died in 1804, so, well before Marx became relevant, which was around the American Civil War era. Kant coined this because he was an insufferable cunt that tried to separate logic and reason and thus ruined human civilization.

>it's not rational to hate them
Is hate ever rational?

>Additionally, even though we have a seemingly natural inclination to hate niggers for their subhuman IQs, and subsequently their desire for gibs, it's not rational to hate them for it because, again, it's not something they chose, they were just born that way.
Sure, but we should have the right to keep them in line and keep them away from the levers of power. Unintelligent people turn countries from Rhodesia-tier into Zimbabwe-tier.

>Hello fellow gentile

Every day we choose to learn and grow instead of blame and destroy.

Are you calling me a Jew user, I resent that >:(

>be me
>140 IQ, as received in an official, in-person IQ test
>living NEET life instead of doing literally anything productive, because my grades were shit in high, and I can't motivate myself at all.

Why?

It's called being part of a lost generation. Your society abandoned you so you abandoned your society, potential squandered in both directions.

Your IQ isn’t anywhere near 140 if you’re a failure in life. It’s probbaly around 98 and you just inflate it to make up for your shitty life decisions

Depression? Lack of drive? I assume bad grades were because you were bored at school? Mine were not that great either. Now doing PhD in neurobiology. Your grades too bad to go to University? You can become a lab technician and start your career from there for example...

>If you don't plug in to a society that hates you you're a failure and idiot.

Wew lad, you understand so little while being so angry about it.

rick and morty tier

Yeah, and in all honesty, I guess I'm using the term NEET loosely. I am still 18, but living with my parents, unsure of where to go or what to do next. I can't seem to get motivated due to how shitty I feel all the time. And yeah, my classes were full of really loud, obnoxious students and teachers I just couldn't seem to follow. It just led me to putting my head down most of the time. I know there is potential for me to succeed, but I'm having such a hard time bringing myself to want to reach for it.

I don't feel sad for lower IQ individuals or sad that I don't have higher IQ.

I see it more as a circle of influence where we can operate. High IQ people are reversely not able to live with a low IQ job, because they simply need challenge.

It is not necessarily bad to have low IQ job, if you challenge yourself in the free time.

Hell Christopher Langan (IQ around 200) has his own farm working with horses, and in his spare time writing the 'Cognitive Theoretical Model of the Universe'.

We just have different purposes in life.
Live yours and you will be happy, but deny yourself by short term happiness and you will be miserable.

Personally I went to black schools and got poor grades becuase there was no point in trying to do anything between the fights and screaming matches so 99% of your grade was homework busywork.

Didn't do it? Bad grades, there's no time to do work in class to even it out.

Yeah stop that lost generation crap! My pay as a scientist is so bad and the working hours so atrocious that I would be better off living off welfare (which is very easy where I live). Fuck it, lost generation, most of you guys are just lazy and expect everything to come to you by itself. What are you, niggers?

Are you even listening to yourself?

You answered your own question but were too butt hurt to notice.

Smart people don't rely on numbers based on arbitrary criteria to artificially inflate their sense of self-worth. Dumb people do that. You may as well feel smug about a high score in Pac-Man, because you're a mindless drone that got a high score on a test to see how good a mindless drone you are.

OP must watch a lot of Rick And Morty

McDonalds and its dollar menu is eliminating hunger in much of the world. Smartphone technology is slowly building people into self-reliant and tech savy citizens. As misguided as they can sometimes be, people are becoming more concerned with "lost" members of society and are trying to reach out and get them into the flock.
The best thing intelligent people can do to actually improve things for those people is
>Keep doing what you're doing in terms of enterprise, maybe outsource less if you want to see improvements here instead of stagnation elsewhere.
>Stop denigrating religion and the traditional family structure.

Sorry that was harsh but I know too many people who simply do not care and even with my meager wage I still pay a lot of taxes and that stuff goes directly to the lazy fucks who would be perfectly able to work too. It is annoying, on the other hand I do understand why this is happening. There is no clear perspective anymore. No easy and teliable way to achieve anything in life. I have lost my previous job when the research group's funding ran dry and that shit could happen again. I still do carry on. And when the pressure becomes too much I think of my great-grandfather who had to carry on in the fucking frozen ruins of Stalingrad till the bitter end. Compared to that my life is a piece of cake.

this desu
op your a child right ?

Look, when I work I work at 110%, I show up before I'm suppose to be there and leave after the work is done. I worked like an absolute dog for years, every job I've ever had I excelled in.

But personal merit and a strong worth ethic mean little in a society that's abandoned you in favor of its leeches, I pointed it out before but you said it yourself.

You'd do better on welfare.

First of all try to SOMEHOW achieve either a higher education or find a job were you will get experience in stuff that most people simply cannot do. You have to be able to do something that is kind of unique ... else you will be nothing more than a slave, a working drone, an interchangeable cog. I have seen decent and smart people ruined by this machinery ... even academics. Btw academic education most of the times isn't worth the paper your diploma is printed on anymore. Our universities are still mostly free for citizens and their quality is ok but I know that in the United States you will have to take a hefty loan to even start education at a proper university. Rather do some apprenticeship somewhere than waste your time and money on a degree that will not do you any good. In hindsight I do regret going to the university, I would have learned the same skills in lesser time if I had done apprenticeship as a lab technician and with that I would still have been able to start a career in research.

I do the same and I don't even get much credit for it. Our society is fucked up beyond belief. My country is a Socialist's wet dream of corruption, nepotism and welfare abuse ... do not even get me started on all the subhuman filth we have recently imported. May as well lay down and play along but fuck that shit, we are here to make a difference! The times are changing, at least where I am.

>You'd do better on welfare.
You'd do better "financially" on welfare.
Everything else I've seen and experienced with it has been worse. You can't save money, so there is no investment beyond a car or house loan. You'll probably sit at home turning into a lazy masturbator like I was for about two years, or start using like everyone else I know on the dole.

At least I can still escape into video games and restore the Austria-Hungarian Empire and take over all of Europe.

Social polices have been a cancer on civilization for so long.

You can pull all kinds of shady shit on welfare, but your point's not wrong. Pic related, guess which year the LBJ enacted his welfare state. You know, the VP who took over office when Kennedy was conveniently assassinated.

its not rational to "hate" a lion for trying to eat you either, but it can be pretty useful if you do. Thats the whole point of your emotional system, it overrides your rationality because very often you cant afford to overthink.

In the case of blacks I feel no hate towards them but I would rather they lived apart from us and would rather not have a government that subsidizes their existence.

If you're actually a geneticist, you're at least in one of the more useful fields.
Big thing right now is trying to boost fertility in overworked and overstressed autists like you.

If you lived in a black heavy part of America you'd be seeing them a lot more as that lion.

>New advancements in gene-editing technology

while it could theoretically solve the problem i think it will just worsen inequality, at least for some time. the people in a position to afford or pursue this tech will likely be those who are already pretty far right on the bell curve.

If you go out into the forest, you will see lots of animals (squirrels, birds, deer, bears, ...) who aren't as intelligent as humans. Should we give them free stuff as well? Some of them live successfully, some of them starve to death, some get eaten by others.

Fertility would not be my problem (but yes in fact I am an Aspie!) but I simply cannot afford children right now. Btw work in neuroscience right now, doing stuff on degenerative muscle diseases. Before that I DID actually work in feto-maternal medicine (until my funding was cancelled) so yeah, reproduction may be a reasearch field I might go to in the future.

>for some time
Maybe a decade or so.
Once a technology is introduced, they start trying to find ways to distribute it cheaply on a mass scale. I think medicine might catch up to that by the time gene-editing becomes a thing. Maybe murica will have a less retarded medical industry by then.

The real question is "is gene-editing your and/or embryo technically cuckoldry"? Your spawn is being replaced with the spawn of a fictional Chad.

I don't see anything wrong with removing the risk of cataracts from my genetics.

You have to accept that equality does not exist, then you have to settle for the reality that poorer, dumber people must be given a role to fill, if they are to continue to exist within a society that the more intelligent people have not only created but continue to prop up.

Look at South Africa, for example. White farmers leave, the "nation" turns to shit. Meanwhile the former worker populace degenerate back into sub-human squalor and destroy the infrastructure that made SA wealthy to begin with. They did not and do not do anything to help their nation prosper, even with full rights and the left over instruments from the whitle people who were killed or ran out.

Long story short, do not feel sympathy for these lesser humans. They don't understand it and it gives them a false sense of entitlement.

>The real question is "is gene-editing your and/or embryo technically cuckoldry"? Your spawn is being replaced with the spawn of a fictional Chad.

i don't see an ethical problem with selective, functional improvements.

would be just fine.

wish i had a few gene edits myself.

>I simply cannot afford children right now.
God, you sound so much like my uncle. The only man I know who made 6 figures yearly and still lived at home with his fucking mother until his 50s.
Motherfucker, you're why we "need" gold diggers and alcohol. That's the only way we get the next generation of productive aspie. Get out there and do some field experiments. Do it with another sperg! Fem-spergs probably have small seizures when they get off.

I would not exactly start with directly exchanging genes in your children. But fixing broken stuff or simply selecting for embryos to simply not receive your less desirable genes may be a good way to go. Also, it is technically less involved, you simply produce several fertilized eggs in a petri dish, let them divide for a few rounds, screen their genomes and then implant the strongest of the bunch.

So it's still "your" genes, it's just the strongest ones you have to offer? That does sound neat.

by definition aspies are asocial so i don't foresee this happening

Don't hate niggers, just keep them away from more intelligent societies.

Haha, good one, but I have already found a female sperg and race realist (you know how rare those two traits are in women?!).

Will reconsider children when I am done with my PhD and have a comfy Postdoc position somewhere nicer than this shithole of a city. Would NEVER want to raise my children where I live right now, better move back to the countryside or at least a bit outside Vienna.

They are competition for resources and contribute nothing but crime and unrest to civilized society. Only the diversity meme keeps us from exterminating low-IQ breeds of humanity.

Also food, the diversity meme and food.

Oh God how we'd have banned them all if it wasn't for the food.

That's good. I know your career is important stuff, but I don't think I've seen anyone who's as happy as people with large, functional families. I don't think it's something anyone should miss out on if they can help it.

People with

Actually, that's smart. Why work if you can do better things?

>What jobs can they do again?

The world needs ditch diggers.

Yeah let's bash all the intelligent people heads in until we're all retarded.

What the fuck are you talking about earn? There are smart people and there are dumb people, life isn't fair, the best solution would be eugenics

WEALTH can be created AND destroyed

so expose your case why low iq plebs should own wealth they did not adquired by themselves

It sounds like you could replace some of my coworkers with them and improve the experience that my store provides customers with.
The reason we're having the argument about minimum wage is because big retailers are committing suicide right now. The wage they pay workers has simply not kept up with the demand of those jobs, and now they have trouble finding people who can pass a fucking drug test. My store doesn't even give them at the start anymore. They just wait until someone gets into an incident. You get what you pay for, and they're paying for mass incompetence WHILE they're being threatened by Amazon's encroachment.

Kek, my first job was at CVS.

Our boss moved and they didn't have a manager to run the store so me and another white assistant ran it for almost a year, perfect scores, perfect store.

They sent a new manager in(Single mother) and she ran it into the ground in less than a month causing half the staff including me to quit before she was fired a month later.

Nothing on Earth will make my dick harder than watching big retail choke on its own dick and die.

Genetics > wealth

Realization: It is not chance that gave you your IQ, it is millions of years of evolution. For evolution to work, the strong must thrive while the weak die. Hate is irrational, but "compensation" to the ill-adapted will ensure you put evolution out of order.

If you "compensate" everyone regardless of ability, you will end up with a population that can only eat and fuck and does that all the time - which is the optimal strategy if there is always more "compensation" to be had.

Conclusion: We must not hate, but rather we must not give "compensations" out of mercy for all of humanity.

It'll make me sad. My team leader is such a dear, and everyone on my team hauls ass all day to get work done for chicken scratch pay. They've been doing it for years.
Then I get sent to help some other department in the store by the director and I see fuckers putting their names on back stock without running it, talking on face time, and just generally hiding from their jobs. This October, I found a piece of meat on the shelf that expired in March. Was the third grossest thing I've seen up-close and in-person.

For a while corporate would send me to other stores to help out, they even sent me back to a store I used to work in once.

Honestly after years I can name on one hand the number of workers who had an ounce of value. Three white guys, one white woman, one black guy, and one black girl.

Actually take away the one black girl, I was trying to be generous but I the best one I can think of I had to fire for stealing.

I don't think I'll ever understand how someone can fuck up like that when they're already barely above rock bottom.

Oh it's not like it's rare, I had to fire our best black male employee for stealing, at the store before that one I had to fire two more blacks for stealing; Again- the best black employees I had.

In fact the only two decent black employee I DIDN'T have to fire were stealing were a a spoiled Mormon(Weird, I know) princess who never showed up for work and one good guy who was worried about his football future so he was literally a good boy who dindonuffin.

>he was literally a good boy who dindonuffin.
Oh fuck that's good.

It was fucking weird when I started working in a customs shop and everyone was white.

People would show up on time for work, and then WORK. It was the most amazing shit I'd ever seen.

Oh and I spent a couple summers working for a fireworks store, everyone was white but the men worked while the women sat at registers and browsed their phones.

148 IQ, tested at Mensa in person (didnt join, its a scam).

Being hyper-intelligent is a solid advantage but it is also depressing as fuck. You are surrounded by stupidity, in terms of stupid people, their stupid behaviors, and especially stupid policy. The world is drowning in this shit and you can't do much to stop the momentum.

IQ isn't a gateway to success, either. I've had a pretty good run so far, but I've also suffered crippling depression, abuse, PTSD, and severe alcoholism.

Working on not failing my PhD right now. Might not be so lucky. I've got a beautiful gf tho, and we are looking to put our money together and maybe buy a house or something. Got to admit, we are going to get jewed so fucking hard if we do that, but where the hell else are you going to live if you want to have a family life together?

Anyhow, as to the OP: society should compensate according to how much value you bring to society, with a minimum standard set by the state (limited welfare is not a bad thing). Celebrity/sports worship and the salaries they pull is absurd stupidity, but if the market of people support it, there you have it. Shine the light on the jews and maybe we can change that setup for the better.

You gotta stop drinking, that shit's the poison that buries you after depression. I nearly drank myself to death at one point in my life.

Yeah thats the truth. Im basically dry these days. Had a bender last week after a really fucking bad day (worst reason ever), but otherwise I stay off the sauce other than a glass of wine or two if I have company for dinner.

Wine gives me headaches, so do cigs, but I'm a big guy so I can drink a whole bottle of 100 proof without losing my faculties. Four fingers pointing back amirite? But there's no other drug on the planet that's destroyed more white families or futures.

I wish weed was legal becuase it puts me in a relaxes/good mood without messing with my head or body much.

theres 2 mportant things to take from this thread, already posted.

people are not equal, positive discrimination does not work
equal opportunity is very different to equal reward

you're more able whether you earned it or not, its irrelevant. niggers are a burden whether they chose to be or not.

you could also say that its not their fault that they're lazy and selfish because they're genetically prone to low empathy and conscientiousness as well as iq. that doesn't mean you should stop civilization in its tracks while the stragglers catch up. there's surviving to be done, and they're in the way. they should be left behind.

race is directly related to g (iq) and the ability to replicate it. there are roughly 2000 gifted niggers in the US, their offspring will revert to(wards) the mean of 85 for their breeding population, even moreso since its unlikely that two of them will hook up. they also have a relatively enormous genetic load, giving them an iq ceiling if around 135 that can't be broken without serious genetic engineering.

since g needs an environment to act upon, and also tasks to be used on, its important to take into account empathy and conscientiousness of the base population as well.

..and then there's economic/political preferences that are highly influenced by genetics, plagues and herd immunity.... you have a long way to go.

you don't need to save every injured sparrow, and you couldn't if you wanted to, you'd just destroy yourself trying. benefit those according to general proximity and welcome to nationalism

> read your post

Dafuq, are you me?! This creeps me out now a little bit... what PhD you doing?

So, you are saying that we should take all money from high IQ jews, and give it to dumb africans?

Nanotech/ChemEng

>you don't need iq

basically untrue. every jbp acolyte will tell you about his talking point that the us military doesn't take people below iq 83 because they're unable to read and follow instructions. he uses this to debunk your conservative position along with the liberal belief that they can be 'taught'

this would suggest that he needs a, 'third position' but as of yet he hasn't made the connection afaik

Awesome! But really, your life history, the alcoholism, the depression, feeling like being surrounded by dimwits etc ... sounds exactly like my situation.
Never had my IQ quantified but my brain sometimes feels like a supercomputer on steroids. I'm addicted to new information. Alcohol and weed are the only things that may shut down all the stray thoughts in my head for a little while.

I'm in Neuroscience right now so I am interested in genetic factors influencing this stuff .. and I have a personal question:

Do you have any of the following:
pronounced brow ridges / a robust lower jaw / a bony protrusion on the back of your head? And does your depression get worse during winter?

Just curious...

>niggers should be mowing our lawns except kikes

true in the past, but increasingly, anything a nog can do a robot can do. they're have literally no way to adapt to a loss of manual labor, retail etc.

that means they're going to demand a basic income, which they'll eventually bankrupt because they're niggers. you can't sterilize or deport them unless you're also willing to kill them

postmodernism is several things depending on the discipline. these days usually its something something deleuze infinite welfare because enlightenment values

Equality is a false god. Fuck off commie.

>can't motivate with high iq

conscientiousness is also important, history is littered with unrealized and unappreciated genius

>bony protrusion

thats called an occipital bun and almost everybody has one to one degree or another.

and no, im not a winter depressee. my shit is more deep-seated than seasonal changes to ambient light levels.

ive pretty much beaten it tho, for the most part. its about self-confidence and self-image, which is a positive feed back cycle connected to personal achievement.

>drinking to shut down stray thoughts
yeah i like to drink when i am gaming with friends, just so that I can enjoy the game instead of routing them and pissing everybody off.

> g denialist muslim

so your parents are cousins, right? ...and your entire family is on welfare paid for by non cousin-fuckers? yep. fuck off all abrahamics.

> iq
> artificial number

Moron.

cuck

>and almost everybody has one
well hell, I thought that was common for some reason. Guess I am rare after all. And yeah, I have very masculine facial features but Im no greek god or caveman wannabe.

>welfare is degenerate even if financially profitable

this. then you get hooked on oxys and start drinking, and soon enough that brain that could have helped so many is damaged. many such cases, feels bad man.

Most smart people understand what "arbitrary" means. IQ questions are chosen specifically to check pattern recognition and concept manipulation. They're not arbitrary.

Pac-Man's also a pretty hard game. I was never good at it. Setting a record is pretty baller.

chinese embryo selection is pretty cheap. like 10-15k iirc

>despite the fact that I have no objective accomplishments to point to.

...

Your premise is IQ correlates with material wealth. It's is illogical to assume that all people are driven by a lust for material wealth. That's you projecting your utopia on the world. This is a bad concern troll attempt from /leftypol/ in the end.

>t.never taken an IQ test
>reddit spacing
This is the type of person that would have an existential crisis if they actually took an IQ test, because they would find out they have an IQ in the low 90s and they might kill themselves.

>Should society in some way compensate for our differing IQs ie. regarding wealth, etc? People tend to focus on things like race or "class" (postmodernist bullshit) but the ultimate differing factor between people is their IQ.
>subsidizing inferiority

>Talks about high IQ
>Is a brainlet

I'm almost certain you're a Jew. You've managed to fill most of the criteria, but the only reason I can't say you are for certain is because you haven't brought up shekels.