Dragon Ball Thread

Discuss everything Dragon Ball here.

Is Fat Buu stronger than Mr. Buu?

Kid Buu was always stronger than Super Buu

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Pre-split Fat Buu is stronger than post-split Fat Buu, yes.

Making the characters continually stronger was a mistake.

Making the series about screaming, powering up, and shooting giant energy blasts instead of martial arts was a mistake.

Yes.

The manga is shit and ruined the best thing about DBS

Was Gohan SS2 against Dabura?

Take your (You) then make like a tree and get outta here

even though I agree, fuck off.

Is Gohan the strongest non-fused fighter in DBZ?

But it's true. The manga confirms it. The anime confirms it. Even Dragon Ball Super confirms it.

Think of a way to give Buu a powerup without killing innocent.

Can't just ask him to absorb the new villain as Goku and Vegeta wouldn't accept that given that they won't be able to fight said villain then.

How strong do you think Spopovich was when he molested Videl? PL wise. Just pull random numbers out of your ass that sound right I don't give a fuck.

Kid Buu is able to be killed by Super Saiyan Goku. I know it was with the Spirit Bomb, but Frieza and Vegeta got hit by a Spirit Bomb from a Goku that was weaker than them and they both walked it off.

You can't tell me that Super Buu with Gohan absorbed is weaker than Kid Buu because it makes no sense. Kid Buu absorbs the Kais in the first place, so why would he do it if it made him weaker?

Will Shenron ever get a girlfriend?

>literally telling lies on the Internet

Trips confirm.

I'm a bit bitter towards that. But let's not cry over spilled milk

We already exhausted all kinds of debates regarding this. I doubt anyone will change their minds at this point.

>but Frieza and Vegeta got hit by a Spirit Bomb from a Goku that was weaker than them and they both walked it off.
Super Spirit Bomb is not the same as the weak shit Vegeta was hit with. The one Freeza was hit with was also weaker since it relied on plant life.

It doesn't matter what form you take for the spirit bomb you fool.

The power for it comes from the earth and creatures.

Vs Frieza it was from planet Namek which is bigger than earth.
Vs Vegeta is was from just earth (the planet and nature)
Vs Buu it was all the living beings on earth.

Stop trying to start shit you waste of fucking oxygen. You're turning Black into the fucking Sup Forumsanana.

Finally some sense.

Does Boo job ladies in bed?

The manga is clearly superior to the anime for anyone with healthy brain cells.

Toeifaggots are literal scum.

>We already exhausted all kinds of debates regarding this. I doubt anyone will change their minds at this point.
What? People actually think manga Black is better than anime Black? I'm a mangafag and even I was triggered by Black's portrayal in the manga.

>I doubt anyone will change their minds at this point.

Yes, there are complete retards in this general who directly ignore facts posted by pro-manga posters.

The fact that they aren't constantly ridiculed for this can only mean that this thread is filled to the brim with these subhumans.

Just shut the fuck up! Nobody gives a good goddamn! You're going to cancer up yet another thread with your autistic fucking nonsense

Look See what you did?

>muh generic smug 24/7 anime villain

into the garbage it goes, manga Black already has more character depth than any of the Zamasus in the anime

Here we go.
>Autistic thread incoming thanks to mangafags and animecunts.

Just posting some facts to open the salt mines

Updated, fellow Toyobro.

>Blackfags are STILL butthurt that thier favorite character lost a fight
Jesus

thanks based toyobro

Reposting from >there's a timeline where Cell never showed up
>after killing the androids, Goku and friends went on to live a normal life
>Krillin never got married and Marron doesn't exist
>Gohan never transformed into a SSJ2
>Goku didn't die
>Piccolo didn't fuse with Kami
>Dende didn't replace Kami
>Shenron wasn't updated to grant three wishes
>the Cell fetus in Dr Gero's basement was not killed due to the Z warriors not knowing about Cell
>thus, Cell kept on developing
>meanwhile Goku and Vegeta trained on their own and likely achieved SSJ2
>years pass and we get around the age of the Buu saga
>Babidi shows up
>Buu is awoken
>at the same time Imperfect Cell shows up
>one of the two absorbs the other

With all the what-ifs that exist, why has this never been made?

Post your DB reactions.

Can we just fucking ONCE have a thread that doesn't devolve into this stupid shit?

You fucking mangafags have become worse than the Toeicunts. You allow yourselves to get baited with obvious troll bullshit like "hehe Toiegods BTFO of Toyocucks yet again xD" and then sperg the fuck out and start throwing around insults. You're actually getting legitimately angry and trying to seriously debate and it's fucking pathetic.

And you fucking Toeifags are autistic too. It seems your sole purpose in life is to come into threads and start baiting the fucking retard mangafags. The fact that they're too fucking stupid to ignore your bait is on them, but you're the ones who put it out there in the first place.

I fucking hate you both equally. I just want a goddamn thread where we can talk about Dragon Ball. Yeah we're stuck in filler hell, but you know what's better than "MUH MANGA!" "MUH ANIME!"?

Fucking anything. What-if scenarios. Who could beat who. Posting fucking manga scans is better for fuck's sake.

Just stop this fucking shit. PLEASE. You selfish, miserable fucking pieces of cancer.

>t. copypasta

>Don't go to DB threads for a a few weeks.
>People are still having the same fucking discussion as when I left.
Some things never change do they?

Reminder that insufferable Panfags like this are from the cult of Salagir and basically fap to the idea of another female mary-sue character

I have Super Gogeta, Super Vegito, and SSJ3 Gotenks in Dokkan Battle and I'm F2P

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Not a copypasta, although I'm sure it will become one now that I've posted it.

Is Dokkan Battle worth my time?

Bra is too fucking 11/10.

hell no

11/10 mary sue you mean, Salagir

The filler season is still going strong, user. Come back in a month and we may have other discussions.

fucking no

Hi Salagir, how are you doing today

Dragon Ball was a mistake

Pan from Multiverse is Kid Goku the Second Coming. How would that make for a "female mary-sue character"?

This. Bra is fucking waifu.

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Bra is a total slut who hits on grown men when she's ten years old because Vegeta and Bulma are a bad influence.

>the superior vegeta vs. black fight will never be animated because Toei are greedy cockmongling Jews who couldn't want for the manga to be established first

>at the same time Imperfect Cell shows up
Huh, no? Future Cell appears at AGE 788, Buu (in the main timeline) at AGE 774. In that timeline Buu could appear and destroyed the Earth years before Cell arrive.

Apparently the anime is going to be following Toyotaro's storyboards for the next arc.

>Toriyama sees the bullsit Toei has pulled on Vegeta in fucking him over constantly
>makes Toyotaro actually give him respect as a character
>flavor of the month Blackfags are angry because their idol lost

>reposting accurate timelines to wonder about more what-if scenarios

Would love to see Toyotaro do something similar to pic related would be cool.

Yes, You can see that by comparing his hair as a ssj and his as a ssj2
Yes, if we count buus absorption forms as fusion forms

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>saving cuckold porn on your computer

hahahaha

The degradation of Goku is probably what I hate the most.

but dabura got oneshotted by a trunks that tranformed into a ssj2 for the first time.
if gohan was ssj2 at the time how fucking weak was he ?

Who would win between God Zamasu and Buuhan or Super Buu

>Gohan
>S22 against Dabura

No. There's no discussion about it. In the original manga different SS forms have clearly different auras.

base/SS/other species - flame aura
SS "grade 2" - hard spiky aura
SS2 - spiky aura with sparks
SS "grade 3" - aura itself is a giant spark
SS3 - spikier spherical aura with sparks

If you think Gohan was SS2, you are wrong.

>If you think Gohan logically using his strongest form to defeat someone stronger than Cell and prevent the creation of Boo, you're wrong

>no sparks
>regular flaming aura

No SS2

his ssj has two bangs.
his ssj2 has one bang.
he was ssj2

THIS
in ssj his hair bang is much thicker and has another little one on the side

>implying Gohan has ever been able to go SS2 at will without being angry

>also ignoring Gohan itself thinks about how he can't use his true power to stop Buu resurrection as Goku said

Sorry dude, no SS2.


>using hair as source
>with a half saiyan, who hair actually doesn't look the same all time
>ignoring auras, a clear source applicable to all saiyans

Goku was the coolest when he was the strongest dude in the world but only had a power level of like 300.

>Toyofags grasping for this many straws

He's a Zamasu clone in the manga

>reaching this hard
because gohan had a haircut before he fought dabura?
hair is the sole indicator. thats the gimick of ssj levels. His hair against dabura is much sharper and more detailed then his regular ssj.

I wanna see what Toyobros have to say about Kanzenshuu-san?

Proof that the DBS Manga is promotional material for the DBS Anime:

> 1- It's published in V-Jump

V-Jump is a monthly publication, and is Shueisha's multimedia-focused magazine (primarily for video game coverage, but also to help promote their various properties). It's not where their properties LIVE, it's where their properties get PROMOTED. V-Jump has decent circulation, but it's not a primary location that Shueisha publishes manga within. The big one is, obviously enough, Weekly Shonen Jump; that's where Dragon Ball was originally serialized, and it's where all the actual heavy-hitters go. If you're big-time, you're not in V-Jump. You're in V-Jump if you're supplementing or promoting something else. It's for spin-offs and sequels, not main products.

(V-Jump is also home to the DB Heroes manga)

> 2 - It's written by a different artist under a pseudonym

Toyotaro is not Akira Toriyama. I mean, that's totally obvious, but it's an important point. Sure, we know Toriyama's not really interested in writing major manga series anymore (particularly on a strict weekly schedule), but that someone else is handling the manga adaptation speaks volumes. You can promote it's new Dragon Ball, but you can't promote that it's new Dragon Ball direct from the pen of the original author himself. That already knocks it down a peg. Regardless of Toyotaro's talent and what Toriyama says about him, at the end of the day, he's just not Toriyama. Furthermore, he doesn't even have his own real name - he's just a semi-anonymous figurehead for Shueisha to trot out.

Vegeta and Goku both admit that gohan was weaker than against cell.
They also said that teen wouldn't have struggled as much against Dabra. He was weaker because he never trained after cell's defeat.
Future Trunks is the last warrior able to protect his world and he knows it so I imagine that he was training even after he got rid of the cyborgs in his timeline.

(Cont.)

> 3 - It's not a stand-alone product in and of itself

The earlier Battle of Gods manga chapters jump all over the place, and though it's a continuing story, for a little bit there it doesn't literally go from the exact same setup/scene to the next appropriate scene on a chapter-by-chapter basis. Once you get past that, you suddenly skip an entire story arc (RoF). Unless you understand what the Dragon Ball Super manga is, and can contextually place it among the other stuff going on and being released, it's not the easiest thing in the world to follow. Sure, you can fill in the holes on your own, but an actual story doesn't get written that way when it's supposed to stand on its own.

> 4 - We were told it was a "comicalization" from the start

Right with the first chapter, Toyotaro said:

> "Getting to see a new DB anime series every week makes me too happy! With this comicalization, I want to make my own small contribution to the excitement, so everyone please check out the manga, too!"

You have to read between the lines there a little bit, but not so much that it's not clear: the manga isn't the main product here.

Sooooooooo...

Yes, Toyotaro's comic seems to, in some ways, be its own independent adaptation of Toriyama's scripts/plot-points. Toyotaro gets to do his own thing from time to time, adding his own flourishes, focusing on certain aspects, and telling the series of events in slightly different ways. At the end of the day though, he and his product are in the position of supporting something else.

Oh, this is autism.

Not only is this post telling us what we've already know, it's copy-and-pasted from Kanzenshuu.

This, it ruined the Future Trunks arc for me. What's worse is that people were trying to defend it saying "oh Goku was always like that" which is clearly bullshit.

This whole thing sounds familiar...

This just proves that SS2 is a terrible design

But I just said that

>the promotional material ends up being better than the main product
Damn Toei sucks.

> the manga is just promotional material for the anime

Nothing new

>>implying Gohan has ever been able to go SS2 at will without being angry
He literally did it for Kibito during the tournament.
>>also ignoring Gohan itself thinks about how he can't use his true power to stop Buu resurrection as Goku said
They weren't talking about transformations but about power. Goku believe that Gohan still has untapped power( which be later released by the old kaioshin)

>>the promotional material ends up being better than the main product
haha no

>VegettoEX

I mean if u like rushed arcs with shitty antagonists, sure.

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Ironically, Goku at the very start of Z was a FAR more mature person than the Goku we see in the Super anime.

Which makes no sense, since he was much younger.

>Toei sucks

And water is wet and sky is blue

How do people force themselves to stuff the equivalent of this kind of shit down their throat regularly is beyond me

Why do people keep saying that?

There's no source for this

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still better then toyotaro's rushed up nonsensical shit show

Actually, it's pretty much always been the other way around. Toriyama recieves more royalties from the manga, since it's closer to his core material.

Anime in general is always used as promotional material first and foremost, for the manga in question. This is why a lot of mangaka aren't that upset if their anime version is cancelled at a later date, they still pulled a net profit on their manga through it.

In short, you're clueless and retarded.

Just

>"reaching" this hard
Auras are a clear fact, you are analyzing the hair cut for a kid who fight a demon flying over there, user.

>haircut
>he actually thinks his hair style doesn't change if doesn't cut his hair
Gohan fights, Gohan flies, Gohan was kicked, why his hair would remain EXACTLY the same? Half saiyans hair can change without transform, auras not.

>hair is the sole indicator
Why you lie, user?

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We needed more of West Kaioshin.

fuck

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