This is /x/ stuff but also hilarious and interesting

In prometheus i discovered a rather hilarious thing. The flute sequence blown to access the promethean orrerey (overview of galaxy associated planets etc.) is E4G4F4E4G4
EGFEG. EFFIGY. 4+4+4+4 = 16 1+6 = 7 the god number. Effigy:
>Miriam webster definition: an image or representation especially of a person; especially : a crude figure representing a hated person.
Access key to access the orrery. What did they mean by this?
Here's the full scene for the sake of talking about it. youtube.com/watch?v=C1EeYB8Aog0 of david the android onboard the alien spaceship playing back a VR recording in the prometheus movie.

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youtube.com/watch?v=R5j1Y8EGWnc
youtube.com/watch?v=t3JQKRnII4k
youtube.com/watch?v=wuXEPNSJHGs
gostream.is/film/alien-covenant-20819/watching.html?ep=689503
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EGFEG != EFFIGY nothing else logically follows.

Omfg can't believe i fucked up the numbers up though GEEZ. 4+4+4+4+4 = 20 2+0 2 yeah i'm lost about that now. Autism activated for nothing. pardon the mistake.

>EGFEG != EFFIGY nothing else logically follows.
the logic was that it was tonal like pronounciation like the flute sequence was tonal rather than in letters. EGFEG if you pronounce it fast sounds very similar. But the number part i completely fucked up.

ALLTHOUGH, since they are all 4's = read it in a straight line, say the corresponding letters really fast. EFFIGY.

eg-feg doesn't sound effigy. If it was ef-e-gee you might have had a better argument.

Autism reactivated. hahahaha
Anyways just a funny little thing i stumbled upon thanks for your time.

> If it was ef-e-gee you might have had a better argument.
Yeah ofcourse but that would make it too obvious but if you pronounce it a bit fast it sounds very similar. If you don't focus on the first g as much which stalls the sequence when saying it. If you remove the first g you have efeg when even if you say it slow that fits better.

You know what else is hilarious? In Alien Covenant a whole city of these guys gets wiped out because, despite having advanced genetic engineering and other technological capabilities, they for some reason did not code all of their technology to only respond to Engineer DNA, thus allowing a psychotic human-made AI to hijack their shit . I can think of doing that and I'm just a lowly descendant of primates. Love the plot holes.

Jesus take this to Sup Forums and by the way Prometheus fucking sucked.
>Alien Covenant
Also fucking sucked.

Considering this is going in a more Germatria route I would suggest /x/

This is whats called "grasping at straws". Give it up.

>This is whats called "grasping at straws". Give it up.
EGFEG doesn't sound to you like effigy much? Just happens to be in 4's in all of them. mute the first g slightly when you pronounce it, considering the context isn't that a little bit convenient?
Fucked up the numbers obviously because of pol desu with the gemmatria stuff, but they're all 4's every single one of them in the sequence.
anyways big nothing burger, sorry folks.

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Egfeg sounds nothing effigy, they don't even have the same syllable count

EGFEG sounds like egg-feg. Even ignoring the first G it sounds like e-feg.

>4+4+4+4 = 16 1+6 = 7 t
Whenever I see someone start to do this shit I just tune out

>youtube.com/watch?v=qgJs7uluwlU
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fucking lol...

>You know what else is hilarious? In Alien Covenant a whole city of these guys gets wiped out because, despite having advanced genetic engineering and other technological capabilities, they for some reason did not code all of their technology to only respond to Engineer DNA, thus allowing a psychotic human-made AI to hijack their shit . I can think of doing that and I'm just a lowly descendant of primates. Love the plot holes.
Yes, alien covenant sucked ass, like he was trying to bury the franchise, prometheus was not terrible in comparison.
To riddleys defense the planet they encountered in the first one was an experimental military installation and they were supposed to launch an attack that destroyed earth and humanity but got fucked up by their own shit by mistake and got rekt before they could get the remaining ships crews out of cryostatis. So when they awaken the commander of one of the vessels he pick up where he started off. But yeah.
And their homeworld in alien covenant is just pathetic.. it's like he was trying to destroy the first movie with that disasterpiece. Bunch of yahoos standing around watching one of their ships dock. Clearly downplayed what the engineers were capable of compared to the first one.
Anyways regards to the whole thing, i noticed something i went with it and it turned out to be nothing so no big deal, sorry for wasting everyones time.

hahaha

>EGFEG. EFFIGY
more like eggfag

Yes i totally fucked that up, nobody appreciates that more than i do. My goodness, when you rush to do something sometimes you know.

There were about 30 minutes in the middle of Covanent that were really good imo. Like something out of Myst or Dune. Honestly the worst part about the Alien franchise is the horror.
I really enjoyed Prometheus. It could have been cut down a bit.

The Canadian wasn't talking about your math error he was referring to the act of adding random numbers and then taking the sum of its digits.

lol

I'm sorry to break this to you but you are most likely experienceing a manic episode. You are extremely excited over NOTHING.

Please calm down and begin to doubt and be near family

I really liked the first one for a number of reasons because it relates to a shitton of things. The 2nd one should've never been made, i almost knew immediately when it was announced that it was going to be a failure and some total bullshit because the first one was way too controversial. So either go full way and full alien cosmology or have the engineers destroyed in some pathetic way as if they were idiots, clearly he chose the 2nd path. What they can engineer an entire planet and they have no security screenings, no fleet intercepts no nothing, before docking with one of their home planets? Just a bunch of yahoos standing around in cloth type of dresses or whatever. KEK. waving at some ship docking right next to them and just drop a bioweapon on top of them and nothing they can do. Like that's going to happen if you're capable of that shit. Be shot down so fast if you came anywhere near it without proper identification and confirmation if you even somewhat go by the storyline of the first one. So it was pretty clear that the 2nd movie was burying the shit out of the first one. Making some melodrama about androids and creating things instead to make up for it, i mean he had to do something to fill the void of the movie.

Thanks for your concern but i'm just really fucking drunk to tell you the truth. And already said it was a nothingburger and i fucked up. Don't you worry about me i'll be fine.

I'm not even sure they're actual engineers. They didn't look anything like the ones from Prometheus. My theory is that the original engineers kept their borders open, allowing a low IQ sub-species of engineer to move in and gradually replace them. They're not smart enough to use their technology. This is why they respond like retards. These enginiggers think that whitey's returning home with gibs.

>I'm not even sure they're actual engineers. They didn't look anything like the ones from Prometheus. My theory is that the original engineers kept their borders open, allowing a low IQ sub-species of engineer to move in and gradually replace them. They're not smart enough to use their technology. This is why they respond like retards. These enginiggers think that whitey's returning home with gibs.
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>I love you user

In prometheus I discovered a rather hilarious thing. The movie was shit, nigger engineers created humanity then wanted to nuke it with aliens. Literal advanced technology, could create a virus to wipe humans from earth in a heartbeat, creates aliens because fucking DURRR

Alien - Good, Aliens - Godlike GAME OVER NIGS GAME OVER. Anything after was chasing the success of the first, and failing.

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I say we take off and nuke the OP from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure his faggotry is gone.

I'm spamming this on nerd forums

I'll insult you with another video from the movie
youtube.com/watch?v=R5j1Y8EGWnc
>gods never die
>We come from earth, this man thinks you called for us
>Who are you what do you want?
>this man doesn't want to die, he believes that you will give him eternal life
>Why does he want more life? what makes this man so special to ask this of us?
>you see this man (david the android) me and my company we made him from nothing and i made him in my own image, so that he would be perfect, so that he would never fail. I deserve this, you and I, we are superior, we creators, we are gods, and gods never die.
Conversation with weyland and the engineer commander of the vessel he had mistakenly awoken.

Wopsie, here's vidya: youtube.com/watch?v=R5j1Y8EGWnc
It's great isn't it hahaha!

Ridley Scott already basically confirmed that the planet David fucked up isn't their homeworld either, or at the very least is not the only planet the Engineers inhabit. It seems like more of a spiritually or politically significant place instead. This makes sense based on their space travel technology and the Drake equation. We have been introduced to at least 5 habitable or near habitable worlds in the Alien franchise so far, and Engineers had been to 3 of them. The backstory for their race speculates that their civilization is millions of years old, so they probably know where all the habitable or terraformable worlds are in the Milky Way at least, if not other galaxies.

I don't know why he didn't take off? What was he waiting for in cryosleep? Did the installation send off a distress beacon? It was 2000 years and nobody in the Engineer High Command thought to ask, "Hey, whatever happened to those guys we had manning our bioweapons station? Haven't heard from them in a while." Given that it only took humans a few years to get from Earth to the military moon, with Engineer space tech I would expect them to be able to zip around the galaxy with little effort and minimum amount of time. The timeline places Alien Covenant 10 years after Prometheus disappeared, and David was on the planet alone for a significant portion of that, so it obviously didn't take them too long to get from the military installation to the "homeworld" or whatever it was.

The director just wants to make the franchise unprofitable so he can make a movie where androids finger each other for 45 minutes than cuddle post-coitus for another half hour talking about if they feel anything

>Ridley Scott already basically confirmed that the planet David fucked up isn't their homeworld either, or at the very least is not the only planet the Engineers inhabit. It seems like more of a spiritually or politically significant place instead. This makes sense based on their space travel technology and the Drake equation. We have been introduced to at least 5 habitable or near habitable worlds in the Alien franchise so far, and Engineers had been to 3 of them. The backstory for their race speculates that their civilization is millions of years old, so they probably know where all the habitable or terraformable worlds are in the Milky Way at least, if not other galaxies.
Without security screenings or fleet engagements of a ship approacing their territory i don't buy it, doesn't fit per the storyline. The first movie was too controversial, he buried the franchise with this 2nd movie so that it all looks completely ridiculous the entire point.
The planet david and co fucked up even if it was some kind of this thing, it would have absolutely no meaning for them to be able to go even anywhere near it without screening, if they are so relaxed in that setting looking like complete retards in cloth dressings (who the fuck does that with that kind of technology) the military presence guarding those sites would be absolutely atrocious to even enter it. Nah he's downplaying the engineers on purpose because the first movie was too controversial and has way too many implications that people start to think hey wait a minute.. don't do that here's the 2nd movie.. bunch of retards and some morality tale about life and the frailty of it and how some can be corrupted. And so prometheus it was shit don't worry about it. Just look at 2nd one, what a bunch of second grade bullshit, attention goes away.

>I don't know why he didn't take off? What was he waiting for in cryosleep?
According to the storyline they were preparing to launch a full attack on earth, then they got fucked up by their own contageon and didn't awaken the other ships so they stayed in hibernation whilst everyone out of it died. So when he awoke the commander of one of the vessels he picked up where he left off. They were supposed to awaken the others and got fucked up by the pathogen accidentally escaping. So they all got rekt and the remaining remained in hibernation.

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Is why in prometheus you have a VR of them running down the hallway getting butchered by the pathogen. Merging with dna and producing a hybrid using the host as breeding organism to breed more adapting to any situation so drop the pathogen and run kind of deal and then come back later and reseed. Run out of hosts. the pathogen dies off from starvation. No biomatter to incubate or consume. So the rest of the ships just sat in hibernation with their crew and vessels of the bioweapon, cause the fucktards supposed to awaken them got fucked up by accident.

This theory actually does make the movie watchable.
David's actually the good guy.
>genocides the enginiggers
>allows alien to kill the race mixers
>allows alien to kill the faggot
>allows alien to kill the jewess
>then tries to make friends with said alien

>if they are so relaxed in that setting looking like complete retards in cloth dressings (who the fuck does that with that kind of technology) the military presence guarding those sites would be absolutely atrocious to even enter it.

I agree. There is a modern analogue though. Before 9/11, I honestly thought there were armed military jets always in the air all over the country. Apparently this was true during the Cold War with the SAC, but no longer. When whatever happened on 9/11 happened (not going there on this thread), I was surprised. I would have expected D.C., of all places on the planet, to have some type of AAA and a heavy military protection (similar to that famous video of the AAA in Baghdad at night when they were trying to shoot the F-117s down). Nope. Nothing.

Just because soldiers and police have body armor and gear doesn't meant everyone walks around with it on. Nor does everyone drive LAVs and tanks to the supermarket. In a stable society protected by strong technology and a strong military, because you don't need to. Call it complacency if you want. It is obvious that whatever this planet was to the Engineers, they obviously thought of themselves as beyond harm, enough to let their guard down. Who knows what the average Engineer knew or didn't know about the level of their technology. After all, most civilians in the U.S. don't have a security clearance. Also, only a fraction of the world population knows advanced math like calculus. It is obvious that Engineer civilization had similar differences between segments of their population.

I also don't think the planet we see in Covenant is their only planet because it doesn't make sense to have only one city on an entire planet that is almost the size of Earth. David only fucks up that one city, and he never mentions traveling to other cities or encountering Engineers from the far side of the planet coming to see what happened. It is all extremely strange.

>This theory

You mean hypothesis?

Please accept my apologies. Yes, I meant hypothesis.

Just found this pretty interesting speculation about the Engineers which relates Prometheus and Covenant to each other.

youtube.com/watch?v=t3JQKRnII4k

>aliens conveniently speak english

Is it just me or does the city in Alien covenant on their planet look very islamic???

>the human examples
If you are millions of years old or whatever you can bet your arse you would secure your borders so much that if you approached without permission you would be blasted into another galaxy. I don't care how relaxed these people are on that planet. Just float right in into one of their planets, idiots in cloth dressings watch them drop with zero, interceptions, security checks or onship inspections, knowing that ship is coming from a military sanctioned zone. And just launch a bioweapon on a bunch of niggerneers. So engineers are stupid just forget about it.
Just so much this about this attempt to legitimize what he did in the 2nd movie.
>I'm not even sure they're actual engineers. They didn't look anything like the ones from Prometheus. My theory is that the original engineers kept their borders open, allowing a low IQ sub-species of engineer to move in and gradually replace them. They're not smart enough to use their technology. This is why they respond like retards. These enginiggers think that whitey's returning home with gibs.
David and co. would've been blown out the sky almost immediately. But since riddley couldn't go there apparently some story about life and the frailty of life ensued instead and about bioengineering/genetic engineering and the danger of that to mankind so it's not entirely lost but it also at the same time destroys the first movie and most things about it.

Or to make a little fun.. burning it in effigy.

>aliums use the western musical scale
>aliums speak english
wut

>knowing that ship is coming from a military sanctioned zone. And just launch a bioweapon on a bunch of niggerneers. So engineers are stupid just forget about it.

The video I linked here speculates that the people David fucked up are not engineers, but other creations of engineers. This aligns with what was posted here .

This actually makes a little more sense, given the layout of the city David destroys. It is entirely built around the landing space for Engineer craft. Why do that unless Engineer craft have some special significance to your culture? And why would Engineer spacecraft, particularly military spacecraft, have special significance to you if you are all Engineers? The answer is that they wouldn't.

It is kind of like being in the military or a veteran vice being a civilian. Civilians generally go gaga over seeing fighter jets flying around or ships and stuff, while service members are like, "Meh." When it is a part of your daily life you become used to it and the novelty wears off. There was clearly novelty on the part of the "Engineers" on the Paradise Planet. It is clear that interactions with Engineers on this planet were not a regular occurrence, and the fact that these people essentially built a temple around the landing site means that real Engineers held a high place in their society. We have airports, but we for the most part ignore them unless we are traveling somewhere. This is because the planes are built and flown by humans, and air travel is so common that we are used to it. We don't build our cities around runways and throw a parade for every successful landing.

This idea of the people on the planet being a separate species also makes sense given that they didn't start to panic until well after bombing was underway. They obviously didn't know the difference between Engineer military craft and other Engineer craft. We also do not see any evidence of advanced technology ANYWHERE in the structures.

Yes, that is the PRECISE way you unlock your way into an actual alien starship should you find one. Just pick up a flute and do so. No ofcourse not.
The point is little hidden clues about things for those in the know, not an actual alien message, it's a movie you dolt. But also a thinking about the overarching things being subtly debated highlighted and shed light upon in a nuanced way, which riddley didn't just come up with on his own but are very present in a lot of things. Art immitates life. Architecture immitates what is already there in a lot of ways, so asking the big questions is a very controversial thing indeed. But also very necessary.
One of the best things about prometheus 2 is actually the first part. Where weyland debates with his creation david existential themes. For the most part the rest compared to the first ones are garbage undoing the first part. That he felt perhaps he needed to do to tone down such things. These are remarkable things that man aren't ready to think too much about. Who are we where do we come from and what does that mean for us.

That actually makes some sense to the storyline, the ones to awaken the other ships carrying the pathogen were wiped out so they remained in hibernation, except the commander of one of them which weyland awoke. They were clearly planning multiship shelling of earth with the pathogen, and then going away to return later. The pathogen then unlike dropping a nuke, infests every biological lifeform using it as a jump off/incubator and dna to make sure of absolute predation to make sure you get each and every single one of them. The pathogen then dies off and you go back and reseed. So perhaps what you are seeing in prometheus 2 was a long awaited celebration ceremony of plebs awaiting them to return from their campaign. the ones to awake the others died, and they were supposed to return with many ships but first ship docks and they are celebrating the destruction of the old of earth and reseeeding of the new a ceremony of purification, and then the shit hits the fan and david drops the bioweapon. Because the commander of that military expedition somehow is leader of these plebs and they are primitive in comparison to the actual engineers. If it's taken that way i get your reasoning. But it's still a pathetic copout, why would the engineers have literal niggerneers if they can create humanity. It's just you know one of those things where you can't really save it for riddley but he probably felt like he had to do it to downplay the whole thing.

>But it's still a pathetic copout, why would the engineers have literal niggerneers if they can create humanity.

youtube.com/watch?v=wuXEPNSJHGs

The arguments in this video about the real Engineers not having females are a little weak, but nonetheless interesting. There are indications that the species on the Paradise Planet did have females (David's sketches, for instance), and obviously so do humans. If this is all true, then the people on the Paradise Planet are a species distinct and separate from real Engineers, just as humans are.

In Prometheus they made a point of showing how similar human DNA was to the Engineers, but in reality we also share a large part of our DNA with species that are very different from us (like primates and flowers). Their height and other features can be explained by the fact that Paradise Planet gravity was 0.96g at the surface (as stated in Covenant). This would allow them to evolve to be taller than humans, who evolved under slightly higher gravitational conditions. But they, like humans, share all the other basic traits with their Engineer progenitors: bipedal, eyes, nose, mouth, large brain, etc.

>But it's still a pathetic copout, why would the engineers have literal niggerneers if they can create humanity.

I understand what you are saying. I think there is too much about Engineer civilization and culture, not to mention spirituality and philosophy, that we are simply not privy to.

This has implications when you think about it. Different creations among themselves, for war for intellect for other things. And what weyland encountered on military installation is one of their warrior group. on a clear military installation away from their homeworlds. even having defense technology being able to control weather patterns. If these groups surround everyone of their homeworlds they can then feel free to engage in other things. It would be like if we put up a wall on every single part of our nation whatever that may be, and had someone else protect that part, we could easily focus on other things instead of worrying about that issue.

So these would then be imbued with insane types of weaponry at their disposal and abilities.

And only for the sake of the protagonist do they actually defeat the ship that is about to be launched to wreck earth. so confident in his succes that he doesn't even awaken the others, because after it falls down david informs here there are many others like them. So ofcourse in the story the hero has to win to tell the story.

>These enginiggers think that whitey's returning home with gibs.
Please let this man write the next alien movie.
Please.

>These enginiggers think that whitey's returning home with gibs

This is why I love Sup Forums.

>what do you see
>white room
>carlo bugatti throne chair
>piano concert grand
>art
>the nativity by piero dela fransceca
(the android david describing the things in the room)
>I am your father
>ambulate (walks around)
>Perfect.
>Am i?
>perfect?
>your son?
>you are my creation
gostream.is/film/alien-covenant-20819/watching.html?ep=689503 best parts of alien covenant is the beginning the rest is sadly less.

>after it falls down david informs here there are many others like them

He was referring to ships. I just rewatched the Prometheus ending. David says, "It's not the only ship. There are many others." Nothing about how many Engineers there actually are.

We do see that there are multiple dome structures on the moon all laid out in a line. It would appear that they are not connected beneath the surface, as David and Shaw are seen driving their little jeep to the next one before we see them leave in another ship. I wonder if all the structures/ships were manned at the time of the "accident" 2000 years ago. If so, and the black goo got out in one structure, why did Engineers in the other structures/ships take off immediately, or seal their respective structures to prevent contamination or creatures entering? The door to the structure that the Prometheus crew had a hole blasted in it, which is how they entered? If there were 3 Engineers who made it to the ship, and a pile of dead Engineers in the corridor, who blasted the hole in the door?

>Engineers in the other structures/ships take off immediately

*NOT take off immediately

Leviticus 23, verse 3.

"Say to them: 'For the generations to come, if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean and yet comes near the sacred offerings that the Israelites consecrate to the LORD, that person must be cut off from my presence. I am the LORD.

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This basically explains the Esoteric meaning behind the film.

isn't this the movie where the blonde woman fucks a black guy?

>Nothing about how many Engineers there actually are.
Several ships, the faster it went the easier for every living life on the planet. They incubate in the form of pure predation based on dna full adaptation to environment and the structure of the base pathogen. The more brutal the thing they merge with the more fierce the hunter. net result everything is eradicated and the pathogen starves and dies off only when there's nothing left.
>We do see that there are multiple dome structures on the moon all laid out in a line. It would appear that they are not connected beneath the surface, as David and Shaw are seen driving their little jeep to the next one before we see them leave in another ship. I wonder if all the structures/ships were manned at the time of the "accident" 2000 years ago. If so, and the black goo got out in one structure, why did Engineers in the other structures/ships take off immediately, or seal their respective structures to prevent contamination or creatures entering?
There clearly was a base command structure of the military facility, those were the ones infected. Experimenting to perfect the pathogen took some time to calibrate it and put it in the necessary ships. Meanwhile the others went in hibernation to be awakened when the package was to be delivered. They lost control of the facility and got rekt, and the package was not launched. So the ones alive all got hunted down and exterminated by the pathogen then the pathogen starved and died. So when they arrive they find one of the ships awaiting the go order in hibernation and wake him up.

notice lack of any animal life on the planet. There's nothing there.

No plant life either, which is even more strange given the high CO2 content.

Something they might've been experimenting on that attacked plants more than the usual animals as an unintended side effect (going on microbial or bacterial level slightly by mistake) They were supposed to only level the surface of a planet completely of life, not what was underneath. They didn't have the installation because they were bored. Got loose tore the shit out of them. Rest in hibernation.. chilling out. dust settled.. time goes by.

Hubris.

I interpreted that scene as evidence the yahoos were in technological decline. this ship was gone a very long time, and it might have been decades or centuries since the last return of a ship.

Agreed.