What would happen if californi seceded from the U.S?

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The largest amount of debt, homelessness, liberal problems, and general cancer would leave the U.S. and we would be better off overall.

Their economy would crash, and businesses would flee to the rest of the US. GDP per capita could easily be cut in half.

Were they allowed to without being forced to stay in? They'd probably start their own country, enact on open borders policy, and become overrun with Mexicans, with their generous social programs being bled dry. Hollywood and Silicon Valley would move due to Americans boycotting their products. It would essentially become a third world country at that point, with a tiny wealthy population and a massive impoverished population. At that point, they'd be too overrun with Mexicans and South Americans to actually be able to do anything, and they'd resemble a South American country in every way. Any whites there would be targeted, and most will have fled over time.

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This.

If they seceded lost leftists would run there because they could live in their utopia. However, after a few years the nation would implode.
That being said, it would never happen. A huge chunk of California would break off to return to the US. California is so heterogenous its scary

It would be the perfect world, pic somewhat related.

Republicans would hold the White House for the next 100 years.

His dick must be able to drill to china

Watch as the Hollywood bitches go crawling back to the States.

I would start assassinating politicians

War

Sweet Jesus it would be glorious, pray it happens. They would be annexed by China at which point we would have to nuke them so the chinks don't get a foothold for a base in the Western hemisphere.

California can stay.
Californians are welcome to secede their asses back to Mexico

They'd open themselves to unlimited Mexican immigration, Mexicans would come in, and within a decade """""Californians""""" would vote to become a part of Mexico.
Depending on how it goes in America, if things are going badly, then more sectarian sentiment might come about, causing more things to break off, or if things are going well in the US, revanchist sentiment would probably brew, and we would take it back it all back, kick out all the parasites, and perhaps even finish Polk's dreams of Manifest Destiny. (Taking a few of the upper provinces of Mexico, deporting them from the new US states there)

The first scenario is more likely, but the second is a distinct possibility if California's """""democratic""""" vote is spun a certain way.

USA would be better off and California would go bankrupt trying to bankroll all the shitskins, faggots, and vegteables.

>Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo
>minorities in California slaughter all the whites in the cities in the confusion
>army slaughters all the minorities
>California is now 100% Republican
>entire western world is redpilled from all the videos of whites being necklaced by darkies

There are no easy answers. It would likely be net neutral for the US and a big loss for CA. If they get WA and OR to go as well, that could change the calculus. However, I think there would be a mass exodus out of CA (maybe not WA and OR) killing the tax base.

From the US perspective
>Debt would plummet
>Pollution would decrease
>Illegal immigration would be cut
>Purchasing power would increase
>Better representation at the federal level would be achieved

From the California perspective
>Brain drain of the middle and upper class
>Increase in gated communities and tent cities
A greater divide between the rich and the poor would occur
>Possible take over by Mexico
>Civil war would happen
>Racial tensions would boil over
>Crime would explode as California already refuses to enforce the laws except against law abiding citizens
>Debt would explode as federal subsidies ended

>If they get WA and OR to go as well
Dear santa...

Build wall around it, desu.

All President Trump has to do is cut off welfare and EBT. Within three days, blacks will set all of California on fire. After a month, they will turn to cannibalism. Then Trump can send in the army to shoot any survivors. The end.

>lose the entire Pacific coast
What are "things the US government would never allow" for $500, Alex.

Everyfuckinbody should support commifornia seceding !

( and dont forget to build a wall around it afterwards ! )

>California secedes
>all leftists move there
>USA starts war with cali
>cali military consists of aids ridden gender freaks
>lefty genocide
>USA annexes cali

user makes a great point. The port of LA alone is too strategic to lose and we are not going to allow a foreign land to occupy an entire coast. Right or wrong there would be war.

this more or less

their economy would completely implode and it would likely become north mexico. us gdp would hurt for a few years, but over all it would be a net gain for the nation

>we are not going to allow a foreign land to occupy an entire coast
You mean the way mexico currently is?

Jefferson would leave California, and California would die a horrible death.

Permanent Republican Supermajority in Congress
America becomes 5% more white

Rural and suburban retard drumf voters would lose federal gibs and the real leader of the free world Justin cuckdeau would form an alliance with the state with high iq Hilary clinton voters. Also Hilary Clinton would become president of california and it would be her turn.

Yeah the state debt is really bad. Federally, it's basically net neutral as far as taxes vs benefits, so no loss there. Let them default by themselves and not bring the rest of the country into it.

Yep and yep. The rest of the country will be fine.

The only problem is that it's technically not legal for them to do so. There are no provisions in the Constitution for leaving the union and any doubt was kinda decided by the civil war. It certainly couldn't happen unilaterally, but the rest of the country could get on board with booting them.

yfw the san andreas fault beats them to it

All but coastal cities will not secede and become the 50th state...the State Of Jefferson. The savings on not having to buy new flags would make statehood easy.
California the country would immediately open it's borders and ban guns.
Once all the gibs me dat are done killing off or chasing away the producers left, the state of Jefferson annexes the territory of California by force. Not much force because the residents of the state of Jefferson will be well armed and the soon to be territory of California will be unarmed.
Kick out all the garbage and keep the territory of California.....makes a nice vacation hot spot with low paid noncitizens.
Former Mexicans want to stay? Ok, fine....but you aren't a citizen and will not be eligible for any sort of welfare benefits.
The coastal territory would never regain the right to vote in US elections ever again.

Win/win for everyone.

>ctrl+f
>no hoover dam

Do you realize how much water they get from us? I doubt we would cut them off day one. Probably have some grace period. But if they really left the US you bet they would be paying $$$$$ for that water

Their representatives would be BTFO.
Democrats would be BTFO from the senate and house.
Americans regain control of their country.

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This

This is the perfect scenario. Plus the only white that get killed are libshits and (((whites))).

When they'd turn on the faucets they'd find very little water coming out.

And they'd be cut off the national power grid.

Since the Fed's own and manage 50% of the state's land, they'd have a big bill to pay.

The conservatives in the north and the interior would likely break away from California.

They would never be allowed. They have too many naval bases.

Yep.
No way would the central valley or actual Northern CA go willingly. They've wanted out of CA for a long time....and there'd be no time like the present of the state choses to secede.

State of Jefferson signs can now be seen as far south as Stockton.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Most of us "residents of the state of Jefferson" want to put it to a vote.
Go ahead, CA....leave. Buh-bye!

Write if you find work! {wavie hand}

The Northern Californians would never go along with it, meaning it would be entirely just SOuthern California. kek a bunch of beaners, libcucks, homosexuals, and pedophile entertainers vs. the world

hahahahah

I hope this is how he spends his lame duck period in 2024

I've heard a lot about this State of Jefferson lately. Got any good reading on it or documentaries? Hope you boys get out of that fucking mess.

That would make the whole thing even more comical.
Then we can send her to Gitmo after the territory of California is annexed back into the US. We can try her and Bill as war criminals.

what is that

Let me see if I can scout you up something. I just usually get the latest news when I am passing through Weed.
Nothing organized, etc is going on, but a LOT of people would back some sort of initiative or whatever should California be stupid enough to actually vote to secede. None of the farmers would go for it, they know where their livelihood comes from. Their water doesn't come from the ocean, that's for sure.
Let the CA knuckleheads have the coastal cities. I might have to move inland a little....but it'd be well worth it to see the toilet known as San Francisco get flushed away by all of this.

War. 100% war.

California is too important in terms of farmland, infrastructure, industry, access to the Pacific, military bases, etc.

a guy taking lsd tabs

sanction blockade and reassimilation as a territory without Californians regaining citizenship.

They'd be beaten into submission and it wouldn't take much considering that the people pushing for it are all massive pussies without the conviction to fight or die for it.

I would be sad because working remotely for a silicone valley company is a sweet gig

They all starve to death because Utah would block off their water supply. The funny thing is the state government of Utah is literally trying to help California leave because they hate them so much.

Here's some links real quick:

sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article53355675.html

Just a wiki, but gives an over view for people who have no clue what it is:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)

soj51.org/

Yeah, they didn't vote like a lot of the rest of CA:
breitbart.com/california/2016/11/19/trump-won-state-jefferson/

We build a wall on Western Arizona

Yep.

Awesome thanks a lot.

Military reclaims/maintains control of bases, california gets butthurt.

Yeah this is the real non-meme answer
If they seceded the US Army would just invade and reclaim it

>the US giving up so much of the west coast
absolutely impossible

Happy fun times for all. Please do it.

Death

we can not let them leave the best we can is arrest or execute

This is what would happen if all conservatives left California.

rpcore.wordpress.com/2017/12/02/american-triage/

60% of the US army are shitskins retard
they'll sabotage the shit outta trump's bitchtits army before they even step foot on cali

The United States would send in U.S. marshalls to arrest all California state government officials and be promptly brought back into the union. A new state government would be established and California would be purged of illegal immigrants. California would turn red permanently.

Go ahead! Secede. The entire west coast is strategic, which the U.S. can't afford to lose it.

This is why your retarded redneck ass lost when you tried it

Dammit Sup Forums, literally the first thing I noticed

> be me
> California
> secedes
> not one other state supports
> calls in National Guard as the US Army invaded Palm Springs
> National Guard destroyed
> calls for militia
> no one can form the well regulated militia because 3/4 of my population are anti gun
> MFW the Republicans in the inner countries secede from me
> MFW the US Army captures me in 3 weeks

then learn from our mistake and never piss off liberals you fucking dumbfuck. you have no fucking idea how many niggers and spics will backstab the shit out of you if you order them to kill their friends.

this. people think the military will just say you can have our missile test sites and ports. get real.

The chinks already own Canada.

Eastern (red) counties in California would secede from California and join Nevada and Oregon. Millions of people would leave California rather than surrender their U.S. passport. About 10,000 fruit loop liberals would be left in a handful of coastal counties, all paying for 5 million illegal immigrants' welfare.

Less brown goblins and hippies.

cali is full of commies anyway who would give a fuck honestly

Make California Mexico again!

YOU were the liberals then dumb shit holy fuck
>Southern education

you Dont know any blackies in the military do you because I'll tell you this most don't like the niggers in cali even the ones from there...
dumb ass

god damn it

the arms aren't brown enough. Would be great cause we could revolt and the feds wouldn't give two fucks

Republican victories for the next 100 years.

The USA would fail.

For all the bitch-fits conservatives like to throw? California is the USA. It's the only indispensable state in the Union. We grow the rest of the country's food, create its art, import its good, house its military and tech development, create its (and the Western World's) culture, and are generally just the most important part of the USA.

Fly-overs are jealous as fuck, but the truth is? California is the USA.

>cali tries to S U C C
>fails
>based Jefferson stays and finally becomes a state

J E F F E R S O N

“Grow the rest of its good”

Are you retarded user?

Like Texas, they can't. It's a complete non-issue.

Whos say were talking about just killing, only the redneck, no the US will annex it and by that time califonias will feel stupid for leaving

> food

Republicans would win slightly more. This of course depends on if said republican is also not stupid. That party was in shambles before trump.

Trump would declare commifornia a rouge nation.Militias would raid along the eastern boarder while drug smuggling mexican gangs would start massing in from the south.I would love to raid cali with a group of buds.pilliging and such.the law would look the other way as we do it....as trump warrants it.

>California grows all the food in the US hurr durr

I don't even like to eat that many vegetables faggot. We have the midwest and you are subject to droughts often.

niggers are fucking useless yeah sure but spics are 40% of us military and Cali is 49% spics.
you got a deathwish if you tell them to massacre their friends like that, retarded dumbass.

Ayy, your jewdar is on point

34% of the country's produce comes from California. 34% of the produce. In the country.

California can never succeed. Even if it does, it would fall into the same trap that drug the South into the Civil War. There are lots of "federal" land in the forms of parks and reservations in California. On top, there are several high profile military bases, namely naval. The USA will NEVER concede these lands. Will the newfound Commies be fine living mixed in with federal lands? All it takes is one altercation for war to happen, and I wouldnt put it past the US to false flag.

Besides, the Civil War set a precedent: every square inch in rightful American clay and the union must be preserved. American have only one duty that could lead to succession as laid out by the Constitution and Federalist papers, and that is to rebel to replace a tyrannical government. Anything else is akin to sedition and should be treated as such.

The leading aspect of the Californian economy is real estate. When succession is on the table, plenty of ((THEM)) will see dollar signs by redividing up CA

It can't, not without war.

> 34

Source user?

And how often do you guys have droughts?

I'll eat 1/3 less veggies at dinner then faggot. Leave, noone else in the country likes you except maybe some faggoty archipelago of trannies, queers, beaners and niggers.

Fun times