What do you guys think of the newest NOTGHIBLI movie?

What do you guys think of the newest NOTGHIBLI movie?

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It's like Kiki, Howl, Ponyo and Arriety in one movie!

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Arriety was fine and Marnie was great so I'll probably enjoy this.

And Howl was beautiful but with a crap story and Kiki is great and Ponyo is fun.

Everything Ghibli is mediocre at worse.

Why'd they have to make a new studio?

I mean it's technically Ghibli, why did Miyazaki not just find a successor?

Ghibli sort of IS Miyazaki despite having other directors.

Yea but the point is you don't just cancel the company, just find a successor.

I think it looks neat. Yonebayashi isn't great, but I'm glad at least someone's trying to carry the Ghibli legacy.

Miyazaki is a bitter old fuck, he'll take the company into the grave with him.
So in order to have a successor, they need to make a new company.

I wanna fuck Mary

Ghibli stopped producing films. Some Ghibli staff members wanted to continue making films, so they made a new studio for that purpose. It's not terribly complicated.

>Not CGI
I am hyped

Each Ghibli animator should take 2 disciples under his wing.

Then each form 2 companies and send 1 disciple to each.

Then we'd have 2 NOTGHIBLIS competing and that might be cool.

I actually like all Ghibli's works in different levels.

There are really a lot of these family friendly type anime films coming out now to try to fill the gap aren't there?

There is this one too
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From the guy that did GiTS:SAC although it looks more like something Hosoda would do that Ghibli.

Aww shiet this looks dope.

Did he do any kind of seasonal anime with the same mood? Cause I'd be real interested in seeing that.

The only other shows I can think of he has done are Moribito and Eden of the East.

Interestingly the film is being animated at a new Production I.G substudio called Signal MD where they animated everything entirely digitally. All the animation is hand drawn on tablets or whatever rather than on paper and scanned in like is the current industry norm.

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Production IG always have been a company to push forward the boundaries of technology in anime though.

Eden of the east looks cool.

Which do you prefer Moribito or Eden? Like is there a vast difference?

I haven't seen either. I think both are fairly well regarded though. I think Moribito is more of a fantasy medieval type thing probably has some decent fight animation and Eden of the East is some kind of thing about a terrorist plot set in the modern day I think.

Eden of the East is pretty decent give it a go.

RIP in piss SFP
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Nice to see that Miyazaki's bitter ass couldn't kill his workers' passion.

I love Miyazaki memes. Epic simply epic.

> asks what she would do if she had powers
> next image is of a building in flames

bueno

Name?

Eden of the East is hot garbage

>And Howl was beautiful but with a crap story
You're confusing it with La Puta

Hirune-hime

>why did Miyazaki not just find a successor?
Miyazaki had a successor named Kondo (dir. Whisper of the Heart), but he died of cancer. The attempt to Shanghai Miyazaki's son Goro into directing was abortive.

Yonebayashi seems to be improving a bit with each movie, so I'm looking forward to this.

Laputa gets a free pass since it's easily the best "boyish whimsical adventure movie" ever.

What level do you like Porco Rosso at?

Or maybe he's worried that his successor will fuck up Ghibli legacy? Isao is pretty much retired. Who is he going to leave the studio to?

Gotta love those NOTGHIBLI movies

Whichever one is the most talented? He and Isao might be the only actual legends at the studio, but they've almost certainly got people that can make decent movies without them.

It's like Rakugo in real life. Miyazaki is like Kiku and is attempting to take his studio to the grave with him, but his apprentices won't let him.

Howl starts awesome and slowly the story takes over and it becomes a hot steaming pile of crap.

I understand the metaphors and shit but I think it could've been done a little better.

Laputa is great. Please explain what you don't like about it.

Not that dude, but Porco Rosso is the best Ghibli movie, and I can't believe I waited so long to watch it.

Not him, But Porco is top 10 percentile easy.

Howl has no story after about 1/3 of the movie.

In that regard it's a somewhat improvement over Spirited Away, which has no story after 5 minutes (but is better animated and more imaginative, which makes it the better film).

This is all in contrast to the best Ghibli works (Mononoke, Laputa, Nausicaa, Whisper, Porco, and a few others) which have actual stories, stakes/tension, characters that move forward and engage in the world around them, grow, and all that jazz.

Yes I agree. But some user was claiming that Laputa was worse and I want to know why he thinks that.

Who's to say Miyazaki and Isao didn't encourage members of Ghibli to go out and create their own projects/ companies? Just as they blossomed off Toei and TMS and went on to create Ghibli, he could be encouraging others to do the same now.

opinions and all that, but it has to be shitposting. There is nothing that Howl has that isn't better done in Laputa. Even the Disney dub is better in Laputa.

This looks great but
This looks waaaay more entertaining.

Awww man 3/18 means that I won't get to see this subbed until like December. Fuck this shit.

>those lips

why is the animation so choppy? How low budget is this?

You blind?

Whoa fuck that art direction, looks sterile as hell

I don't understand what you mean by this.

>that sizzling solder at 0:21

Doesn't happen like that in real life. Dropped/10

That's fine

The issue they ran into was their new productions didn't get anywhere without misakis name on them

The two art directors are Kaori Hino and Kiyoshi Samejima, they've both worked on Ghibli and Hosoda productions in the past. Then there is Yumiko Katayama in charge of colour design and they have all kinds of productions. Looks like they worked with Kenji Kamiyama a fair bit before.

Yeah there's a clear influence from Hosoda's films, at least in terms of character design. Which isn't technically bad, though I'm not a fan of them.

He means it doesn't have eyecancer filters like based ufotable, shaft, and kyani.

The character designs are apparently Satoko Morikawa who did the designs for for Eden of the East, Princess Arete, The Cat Returns. I think the kind of flatness in the colouring and simplistic forms is as much a result of it being a digital production as anything else although Hosoda's films do very much go for that look too people who animate digitally tend lean towards that kind of art style too.

Fuck Howl. I have no idea what made Miyazaki thing that the right way to adapt a book about a vain and cowardly Welsh wizard was to turn him into a sparkly bishounen birdman and turn the whole thing into out-of-nowhere antiwar morals.

I mean I like the Welsh Bishounen wizard but it's the anti war bullshit that shows up out of nowhere and really ruins the mood.

this looks really good

was miyazaki a meme?

What does meme even mean anymore?

in this context it means not a creative genius who is responsible for everything studio ghibli ever did

I mean it should be easy for the team who worked on so many movies to copy the style. I mean they've been doing this for like at least 10 years now right?

>copy the style
it's their style lol they're the animators

i'm starting to doubt that miyazaki actually did anything

I don't think you understand what a director and producer does exactly.

Does the Miyazaki collection have that surround sound track with the removed extra dialogue coupled with the fully orchestrated score? I might just have to import the European BD for it otherwise.

Quit pretending you know what you're talking about

"Something I don't like."

>watching ghigly shit.

>why did Miyazaki not just find a successor?
Anno is too busy with Rebuild.

God, Goro's movie was such shit.

>Sup Forums constantly shits on ghibli
>gets upset when ghibli doesn't make new movies

every time

I liked earthsea though...

I liked the theme of Earthsea but the story is absolute crap.

>muh director
fuck off back to Sup Forums with that shit

it looks like the same kind of film ghibli used to put out yet without miyazaki being involved

therefore miyazaki is obviously redundant

Wouldn't say he's necessarily a "successor" but god, Kondo was such a huge loss. To me, he's as talented a figure as Miyazaki and Takahata.

Holy shit you're dumb...

Just reread my previous posts to find out why.

>merge ghibli with khara
Welcome to the real third impact.

Fair enough.

which ones are those, Sup Forums?

miyazaki is not an auteur, that much is obvious

It's not rocket science dude. It's easy for a team to shit something out when they fucking worked on similar movies for the last 20 years.

That doesn't mean that Miyazaki didn't have anything to do with this.

>It's easy for a team to shit something out when they fucking worked on similar movies for the last 20 years.
>similar movies
try the same movies because it looks exactly the same

my point is that this is the literal studio ghibli team except without miyazaki and the movies they are making are the same as what they used to make
>That doesn't mean that Miyazaki didn't have anything to do with this.
enlighten me on how miyazaki is involved in this

>Nausicaa isn`t his best work

Miyazaki has so much good shit that it's impossible to just flat out declare a best.

Yuasa will have the best family movie this year. Prepare yourself for the announcement.

I'm so fucking excited. There's so much Yuasa in the near future and he's at the top of his game, artistically.

>it's their style lol they're the animators
What are you even trying to say? The whole aesthetic of the film is determined by the director. If Miyazaki said make something that looks completely different thats what they would have been doing, just like Takahata did with Princess Kaguya.

Likewise if the director of this new thing says "make something that looks as much like the work we were doing under Miyazaki at Ghibli as possibe" thats what they will be doing.

Animators don't just decide to draw things however they want. They all work to a joint goal and aesthetic notion under the instruction of a director.

Well first of all we haven't seen this movie yet it could be a clusterfuck.

Second they're obviously drawing inspiration from past movies they've worked on with him: Kiki, Howl, Ponyo, Arrietty.

Their work and experience with said movies is what enables them to now make this new movie.

Without Miyazaki they could not have made this movie because they wouldn't have the several years of experience with this genre.

Apparently you're 6 so you haven't really had the time to understand what it means to have experience with something or this wouldn't be so hard to understand.

And I'm done replying to you because you've just been replying the same thing over and over
>But Miyazaki isn't working on this and it's great.
Even though we have just 30 seconds of footage.

>my point is that this is the literal studio ghibli team except without miyazaki and the movies they are making are the same as what they used to make

Hello time traveler, do us all a favor and kill yourself.

Yuasa's artistic peak was Hakkenden ep10, his most important contribution to anime.

Because Miyazaki is a cunt, and the director of Marnie saw Ghibli was doomed so jumped ship.

What's this Hakkenden thing? I've just googled it and it looks like a cockfest. Is it manly man on an adventure or is it some Yaoi shit?

I don't think so, but yeah that would likely be his most important work.

>What are you even trying to say? The whole aesthetic of the film is determined by the director.
i'm pretty sure that the ANIMATION is done by the ANIMATORS
> If Miyazaki said make something that looks completely different thats what they would have been doing, just like Takahata did with Princess Kaguya.
that is literally one film, the rest of them are done in the same style as this one
>Likewise if the director of this new thing says "make something that looks as much like the work we were doing under Miyazaki at Ghibli as possibe" thats what they will be doing.
this is utterly meaningless
>make this anime that we're making now look like this anime that we made before
is there anything else to anime? i mean they have a ghibli director they have ghibli animators lol
>Animators don't just decide to draw things however they want. They all work to a joint goal and aesthetic notion under the instruction of a director.
this slavish worshipping of directors could have come from Sup Forums
>Second they're obviously drawing inspiration from past movies they've worked on with him: Kiki, Howl, Ponyo, Arrietty.
they are using the house style
>Without Miyazaki they could not have made this movie because they wouldn't have the several years of experience with this genre.
that's a pretty abstract form of involvement

if you were an adult you would understand that when you say someone is involved in something you mean did they directly contribute to this project
>And I'm done replying to you because you've just been replying the same thing over and over
i'm repeating the same thing because i'm right
neck yourself

You're wrong.

>this entire post

>there is more to anime than animators, artstyle and directors
lol

Howl is a pretty classical fairy-tale. I used to dislike it but once you accept you for what it is, it's pretty enjoyable.

>implying Chihiro doesn't move forward and grows

I enjoy Howl but if I'm asked to be objective I have to say that the story is a piece of shit. But the artstyle and animation are very amusing.

What's "objective" about calling the story of Howl a piece of shit? I thought it was a pretty good coming of age story that at times aimes for larger themes.

Yeah you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Yeah probably not. It is something more of his fans should see though.

It's an OVA series with an episode (10) with Shinya Ohira directing and Yuasa as animation director and plenty of other notable animators working on it like Shinji Hashimoto, Satoru Utsunomiya, Takashi Nakamura and Osamu Tanabe. Started in 1990, there are multiple series by the same name so you are probably looking at the wrong one.
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>Yeah you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
enlighten me