Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
>he doesn't work >he wants to represent the working class
Oliver Mitchell
>socialist
the marxians stole that term. Socialism isn't communism, socialism isn't marxism.
Jose Lee
OH MY GOD THE SAME FUCKING GUY AS YESTERDAY I AM CRYING XDDDD
GET A LIFE CUNT
Hunter Phillips
The only major problem with communism is that tends to kill of the civilians living under it´s rule.
Tyler Moore
He posts for more than half a year already, go back to plebbit
Gabriel Barnes
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Blake Wilson
Im new on Sup Forums sooo
Dominic Morris
kys faggot
Jace Evans
Also i have never been on reddit
Ian Nelson
People still think communism is a viable idea after the literal millions of people that died as a result of it last century?
Dominic Turner
People still think capitalism is a viable idea after the literal billions of people that died as a result of it last century?
Chase Powell
>People still think capitalism is a viable idea after the literal billions of people that died as a result of it last century?
Evan Ramirez
Where did this ebin meme come from? I don't see you bashing trailer trash methheads with MAGA hats on screaming "dem foreigners are taking our jubsss". You know damn well they don't work.
Lincoln Morgan
Actually, not so sure about billions (plural), but definitely more than communism.
Chase Richardson
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Austin Hill
SAGE
Jack Myers
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Luis Taylor
>This shit only happens in Africa
Angel Torres
>Capitalism's lack of action is the same as ideological death squads and things like the Holodomor
OK.
Jack Miller
>the government control redistribution of wealth/goods isn't the government redistribution of wealth/goods
MAN, POLITICS IS HARD.
Hudson Peterson
fpbp
Jonathan Sanders
American bluecollars are the very people you call "rural and suburban retards"
Aaron Hernandez
Marxist socialism is also known as scientific socialism, as opposed to utopian socialism you refer.
Eli Collins
I came to this thread just to see this
Adrian Wright
*quadrillions of people Xenu was a capitalist
Justin Collins
Ya, but Africa is still capitalist is held back by the greed of first world corporations. Even you would agree that Holodomor was the Soviets not feeding the Ukrainians (i.e. lack of action). And let's not forget capitalism's paramilitary death squads. Plus, have a look up of COINTELPRO. And of course, that wasn't real communism. The soviets were trying to achieve communism (the goal of no state, no property and no money), but got distracted by lust for power. Socialism is the workers owning the means of production, nothing more and nothing less. What you speak of is the welfare state.
Hunter Rogers
Holodomor was on purpose, my man.
Liam Collins
>Socialism is the workers owning the means of production, nothing more and nothing less. Then why was all the means of production owned by government in Russia, China, and North Korea in the time before they adopted capitalism to stop people from starving?
Jayden Wright
i saw what you did there hahah you are alright
Jack Morris
>Ya, but Africa is still capitalist is held back by the greed of first world corporations.
Proof? You have 7 min
Mason Fisher
this is your brain on communism
David Reyes
a moment of silence for Honduras the latest of injustices against Latin American Tragedies int he name of North American Emperialism
Caleb Adams
Statistics show that 100% of people who drink dihydrogenmonooxide die. This chemical compound should be banned but the nasty capitalists profit too much off of it and their lobbying has stopped the outlawing of such dangerous substances for hundreds of years for now.
Ian Harris
This. Thanks to capitalism every single human on earth is poisoned with dihydrogen monoxide and have it in our bodies. Thanks Trump.
Liam Baker
Thank you for proving my point
Lincoln Edwards
Maybe so, but so was Nestle fucking up africa with relentless selling of baby formula, and countless other similar things that I cannot remember of the top of my head. , this applies to you too. I'm not done with you by the way. If the workers didn't own the means of production, it wasn't real socialism. Workers owning the means of production is the only thing that defines socialism. Oh fuck what now? Or are you referring to when America replaced the democratically elected government in Honduras with a military junta in exchange for some bananas? Oh, bringing me back to Nestle, who don't even consider water a human right. Anyway, refer to my chart at . Do explain.
Josiah Jones
Lysenko was a real scientist!!!!111111
Nathaniel Phillips
This thread is officially a shit on communists thread. Post your biggest red pills on communism!
Ethan Kelly
>Nestle fucking up africa with relentless selling of baby formula If Nestle was really fucking Africa, it would have already been bankrupt and closed donw
>it wasn't real socialism Why would anybody want to chase a pipe dream that led to authoritarian regimes which all fell on their faces by exploiting the population into poverty and ended up adopting capitalism to get out of it.
It seems that the best solutions are the ones which sprout organically rather than trying to force something that has never ever not even once "been tried" because it fails before anyone can get there.
They were one of the parties who abandoned Marxism -Leninism in the 60s and decided to go Eurocommunist (although the party still mantained a Marxist.Leninist majority in their militant ranks). This shows how Eurocommunism has not achieved anything in Europe being just as Lenin would have called it "an infantile disorder".
And although the party has still to improve a lot (they have been a reformist power for the last 40 years, they are lots of anti-Leninist still in important positions, they have been rejecting class struggle for a long time….) this could be the start, of the PCE becoming a ML revolutionary party again fighting for socialism in Spain.
This process is what has been happening (to some degree) to the greek KKE, who went Marxist -Leninist again some years ago ,and are becoming a mass movement in Greece.
Also the good thing is that this only has been possible, because the youngest ranks of the party ( the UJCE wich is fastly growing and has at this moment the biggest number of members in their ranks since the Spanish Civil war times, and who are starting to have an strong presence in the streets) , has fought to break the old party stablishment, and push back again the Marxist-Leninist line that thay have always maintained twitter.com/UJCE/status/936969294537199616."
Thomas Bailey
Gee thanks Timmy I sure feel safer now that you informed us you're a fucking retard with no sense of humor.
Jason King
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of rebolutionary socialism and gommunism. /lefdibol/ raids /bol/ general - pasda spam and endorsedd rule violadions ebidion :DDD
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism aggording to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run
away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD
Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
>Sdage four Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
Noah Nguyen
he talk to himself again
Colton Hernandez
Holodomor happened because of
1. Lysenko
2. Killing of the productive people who were labelled as kulaks.
You claim to be anarchist and then proceed to imply that Holodomor happened because daddy state wasn't feeding the people?
Ethan Hill
Oh so you say Wikipedia is shit because it doesn't agree with you? How sad Go back to your safe space antifa scum
Owen Gutierrez
Welcome to Sup Forums my /friend/. We are extremely glad that you have joined us, may I show you around?
Luke Bailey
Voter supression forced curfew right-wing US backed candidate claiming victory despite evidence of Voter fraud also happens to be a firend of right wing politicians in the US such as John Kelly Teenage girl shot dead in the streets as a result of the curfew
Parker Wilson
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Jace Cooper
All commies deserve to be killed.
Thomas Bailey
The government is the people is the workers. If group of people want to run a business, instead of working for an individual entrepreneur, there's nothing to stop them from starting one as a group, if they're as productive as this implies they are, within a capitalistic system, besides the lack of capital, which should be possible with sacrifice. Generally speaking, we call that a corporation, and communists are taught an unfounded hatred of them.
>What you speak of is the welfare state. Now you're either going to tell me that Communist Russia was not a proper communist or welfare state, because it was both.
Benjamin Ortiz
3 years* He has posted at least weekly in hispachan since who-knows-when One of the best communists around. There's a point when you're lead to believe that he isn't even communist anymore.
Noah Perry
Take your collectivist bullshit with you into the gas chambers
Sebastian Davis
Anyone who has a anarcho-communist flag must be burned alive
Dominic Bailey
The posts were a joke you humorless Turk.
Brayden Brooks
Funny how Wikipedia isn't even accepted as an academic source in middle school
Robert Cook
CRY MORE
Joseph Bailey
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Nathaniel Jenkins
>relentless selling of baby formula >commies think stealing people's food at gunpoint is equivalent to selling them a product
Elijah Stewart
>be so fucking stupid you can't see a joke >"c-cry more"
Chase Smith
So you say learning new things is bad?
Lincoln Barnes
God fuck off newfag
Joshua Foster
Prove to me right now that it is fake Prove it
Jason Martin
>point out that all people have water in their body thanks to capitalism >"I-ITS A HOAX U FUCKIN DUMBASS"
Aiden Bennett
WEW that was fast
Connor Green
Man, I tell you the dihydrogen monooxide is making you toxic? IT'S TIME TO STOP
Connor Lopez
But how many lives have been saved from capitalism through for profit medicine and providing an incentive to cure disease?
Mason Walker
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John White
Who else could it be then? It can't be the jews, they don't care about Africa unless it's Israel's neighbour. Because they let a person have power over another. Look at the flag. Cant have authoritarianism without authorities. Communism has been tried plenty of times, just look up the Ukrainian Free Territory and Revolutionary Catalonia (both wiped off the map by groups with more guns). You could argue that the Indus River Valley civilization and similar (but less cool) gift economy civilizations were communist, although they weren't exactly modern by any stretch other than geological. Holodomor happened by the daddy state not feeding the people. Do you disagree with me? Jesus dude he was just (correctly) saying that we all know what dihydrogen monoxide is. Calm your tits. Well fuck. >The government is the people is the workers. Then the market is the people is the workers, therefore anarcho-capitalism is socialism. We clearly know that it is not, therefore your previous statement must be false, as long as the government is separated from the people i.e. exists. >nothing to stop them from starting one as a group Except the existing competition simply being much more efficient at exploiting workers than a bunch of entrepreneurs can be, unless existing competition isn't very present. And doing that for primary industries is impossible, because all the farms already exist, and making new mines without government intervention (who are always going to favour big companies) is incredibly difficult. >soviet union not a proper communist or welfare state It was neither. As I explained before, they didn't reach real communism, and a welfare state is free market but with welfare. It was state capitalist, meaning capitalist but industry was run by the government. Look up 'nestle boycott', where people tried to do your free market thing but it didn't bankrupt and close Nestle
Jack Phillips
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Carter Moore
It's happening
Matthew Smith
Who would win Sup Forums?
Blake Watson
>"I-ITS A HOAX U FUCKIN DUMBASS
IM SAYING IT IS A HOAX, YOU IDIOT Calling me names shows how a fucking jackass you
Leo Foster
you are*
Chase Collins
Quick question mass marxist suicide when ?
Ian Cooper
You need to work on detecting sarcasm you Turkish retard.
Levi Moore
Holodomor happened because the commies killed the people who were supposed to be growing the food and then implemented communist pseudo science.
I cannot believe that you are implying that the people of Ukraine were unable to feed themselves and died massively because the state refused to feed them and then call yourself an anarchist. Are you really unable to see your hypocrisy?
Sebastian Price
>Kulaks >Growing food No, Holodomor happened because Kulaks resisted collectivization and burned all the grain. Stalin was too soft on them
Camden Mitchell
Yank pretending he knows jack shit about the situation in the Eastern Europe during the 20th century.
Lincoln Walker
Fucking hell that has already been posted you're just making everyone scroll more than they need to They ran propangada campaigns that breastmilk is bad and gave free samples until mothers' breasts dried up (not the best imagery there) and then started charging through the roof for any more, killing many children of those who couldn't afford it. Fucking hell, are you this retarded naturally or are you a trained idiot? You managed to get every side to hate you. How many lives have been saved by the Soviet Union (god I hate defending these guys all the time) through state funded research providing an incentive to cure disease? I literally cannot tell which side you're on. I'm saying that the state refused to give them food. has something of a point though. Just leaving Ukraine as a free territory would've been a much better idea. Fuck you Lenin.
Michael Rogers
NOW you told me it is sarcasm. Instead of saying "bro it is just sarcasm chill" you just called me names all the time like a 10 year old playing 1v1on Call of Duty. The fucking anarcho-communist was polite than you. You're the retard here
Nathaniel Phillips
t. Pinochet fanboy
Easton Anderson
more polite*
Noah Ross
>The government is the people is the workers So Americans and capitalism are all responsible for the shit this government has caused?
Connor Rodriguez
As I told you, /newfriend/, you might want to let me show you around Sup Forums or you will create an image of a retard of yourself.
Luis Thomas
Fuck, forgot to greentext "The government is the people is the workers". The whole point of that paragraph was to prove that statement wrong
Luke Smith
communism doesnt work nigger
Adrian Thomas
Well, it was fun arguing with you guys, but I'm getting sleepy. Goodnight Sup Forums. Arguing is fun. Shitslinging, i.e. not an argument, is not so much.
Thomas Hughes
Sleep tight commer
Luis Morales
Sage. Pol is a board of peace.
Bentley Long
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Aaron Young
Yay! Gommunism!
The only way forward for any true socialist.
Carson Lopez
>Nazi meme flag and this one DOES work rofl 1 2 y e a r s to start a war and destroy your country B)
