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Ok Sup Forums, it is obvious that most of us here are white males, if you aren't a white male, this thread will be pointless to you, so leave now.

Let's discuss white women for a moment pol, no memes or bullshit, so currently MOST white women (in city and Rural areas) are still under the spell of multicult, you could tell this from your workplaces or from your school, they dont seem to listen to reason when you try to explain life is more than their momentary pleasure.

How can we have a Society when we can't produce offspring, how can we bring white women to the light so that we can get on with real change and start upping our birthrates, post your best answers/theories below.

Should we just abandon them for their actions, or should we try to get the fatties to workout and have a better lifestyle, what direction are we going to go in to REALLY further our interests minus self improvement which most of us already do, to and correct the natural order?

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youtube.com/watch?v=aOfhlYIRCXM
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Sup Forums doesn't have an answer. That's the whole reason this place exists. It's just a bunch of sexual frustrated white cucks complaining about women.

Projection.
I have a gf who falls into the category of being "redpilled" (as much as a woman can be).
Many other people on Sup Forums have successful romantic lives, just because you are a virgin doesn't mean we all are :^)

Oops, still had shitposting flag on

I put the nail in that meme's coffin permanently tbqh
coalburners BTFO, etc

I'm going to be straight here. I am a cuckold, but I am also a white nationalist. I believe that whites have contributed more to humanity than any other race, space travel, anti—biotics the list goes on. But when it comes down to it, blacks are just better at fucking. Theres no shame in admitting this. There is no shame in admitting that despite the infinite intellectual and moral superiority of the white race, black cock is just better at pleasing women.

>hello fellow white people

You treat women as equals, witch is why you dont understand anything. Even males I consider emotianal fools and charachteristicly weak are still have better understandment on stuff then """redpilled""" women. Women are not even surface tier thinkers. They act only according to intuition and their personal well being. The good women will surrender to the agressor, its in her nature to do so as that is what women has to do, to not hinder the active nature of men. Otherwise our societys wouldnt become as great as they used to be.
There is no need for discussion with women, women have to be conquered, their love will come to you if you show her your agession.

>inb4 (insert any yt star or Ayn Rand) is redpilledXD
Dont fool yourself and think about those females with a cold mind

>inb4 but all these beautifull women with ugly loosers!!!
Dont get fooled by media, this just doesnt exist.
Also our society is ill, some couples arent healthy either.

>inb4 everything you cant explain is unhealthy
Just look back at the good times of Europe

>Worm who will die under the stumpede of new European generation of aryans.

>takes a village to raise a child

sounds like some Clinton BULLSHIT

We unironically need the Race War Now

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i think you guys overestimate how shallow most girls' politics beliefs are
when i met my gf she was a typical sjw liberal but after a few months she was already siding with me on almost everything
most of them don't come into contact with opposing ideas
it seems real easy to break

I'm a "chad" by most standards here. That's to say I've fucked more women than you and your girlfriend could count your hands put together, and I could've fucked more if I didn't have a preference for molding the women into liking what I like sexually.

I'll tell you this: That Turk post in the OP hasn't exactly gone past me. Recently I've even been together with this girl (going on 6-7 months now) and I've consistently discussed it with her that it is a real problem for Europe that many, many men go far into their 20s (many of which will literally numb the "stigma" of being a wizard considering their future numbers). These guys are a real threat to the prosperity of our society. Sure, it can be argued they put themselves there because they spill the spaghetti whenever they're given the opportunity to pussy, or they never work to put themselves in that position in the first place, but the fact remains that these men make up a part of our habitat, and need to be activated.

There's absolutely nothing you can do. I indulged in the very lifestyle that has created this problem. I've even fucked women who dated men. I have made out with women in front of their boyfriends (boyfriends they are still with today).

I try my best to teach my woman how to behave, I tell her what's expected of her in case she wants to be a mother (at least to my children and I hold my convictions sternly, with the underlying element that I'd ditch if she can't comply indefinitely).

You can just start from yourself, from your own family. You can't start a movement of some kind or deal with the issue on a mass scale, you can only start with yourself.

>in city and Rural areas
has this really spread to rural areas as well? interesting. my guess is that the internet is the cause since no one watches the jew box anymore. if you have a daughter, teach her the evils of race mixing.

Real men would follow this lovely lady's advice:
youtube.com/watch?v=aOfhlYIRCXM

Start eating right.
Hit the gym.
Find a chick.
Take her.
Make babies.

>You can only start with yourself, not a movement
Who the fuck is Hitler?

Dude you are a foot soldier, a good foot soldier it seams, but a foot soldier.

The liberal ideology is too ingrained. It can't be uprooted through a movement without some real fucking bloodshed. And I'm not talking against Jews. I'm talking our brothers and sisters taking to the streets in protest to a leader who would be deemed authoritarian immediately.

Movements like this have to be started bottom up if we want something that's actually sustainable. The nerds need to stop spilling spaghetti and the Chads need to calm the fuck down and think of society general.

Post height weight and BF %. Bet I'm taller and stronger than you while being 18 lel

1.85m
80kg

Don't know body fat, but I'm fit

Yes, why exactly are you against that?

It can't be helped, the BBC is simply too powerful. Even conservative redpilled women have succumbed. We just can't compete.

>i think you guys overestimate how shallow most girls' politics beliefs are
>it seems real easy to break

this is unfortunately true, it seems only asians can resist the bbc, probably because they are addicted to the bwc

bumpu

>Humans didn't have an institution of marriage prior to agriculture.

That's empirically untrue.

The agricultural revolution, in fact, brought about the dawn of large harems of females breeding exclusively with a singular male in a system reminiscent of feudalist medieval European extractive economic practices.

This turned out to be a genetic disaster for the small communities which were subject to it, and the process was naturally selected against.

I swear to god you people are experts at getting everything except the Jews completely and totally backwards every single time.

You're clearly part of the problem not the solution, much as you might want to Larp as a good citizen, society is the other 90% of men working together to keep women and men like you from fucking eachother in the dirt.

The reason we hauled ourselves up above the level of apes and monkeys is specifically because we were steering human destiny away from people like you. The fact that you implicitly acknowledge all that in your post doesn't make you an ally of civilisation, either, just a slightly more self aware monkey.

Yeah, he skipped that part, nothing else is untrue.

Addressing this problem will not work until we deal with the JQ. They are the power structure that enabled this shit to happen in the first place.

lol'd

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

>BBC meme
White women belong to SUPERIOR ASIAN COCK

Actually, no, it's pretty much entirely incorrect.

Humans follow a unique sexual selection strategy developed as a result of the female being completely incapacitated during pregnancy. Women need men for protection to a degree significantly outweighing the need that males have to reproduce in any given set sphere of parameters.

So, men are the ones, in pre-industrialized societies, who have all the bargaining power in the sociosexual dance of mating. This has been flipped on its head in western civilization and so you've all been raised thinking that your instincts are evil and women are goddesses because that's precisely what women are in a position to make you think.

Our country is a zog vassal that hypocritically protects the rights of neoliberal, post-modern propagandists the world over. I say hypocritically because it doesn't really protect us, it protects the pedowood/pop machine, that spews its disgusting morality all over this world, corrupting it. It would never protect anyone who had something to say. Think of that film maker who made an anti-Islamic film, because he was a Copt or something. Hilly blamed the Arab Spring on him, and apologized for him expressing his first amendment rights. She's like most white women here. And most white women in our generation who voted at all voted for her user.

We are men among ruins, so get over all that stuff stated above. Accept it. And accept that you aren't superior in any way to it. Also accept that the only thing keeping you sane is your personal order over what you can control, your own dignity, and your own hard won sense of honor. Most people you meet will scoff at the notion of honor, or find it absurd. But you aren't like most people.

So if this bothers you, and it bothers most men who are concerned about the future, you just need to learn the principle of not settling on anything until you are sure. If you find out a woman has been blacked, ditch her. Don't even make the mistake of using her. She's likely diseased. And there are plenty of women who aren't on dating apps or shit of that nature, you just need to be polite, charming and as well off as you can be. By well off I mean healthy and with material prospects. If you aren't well off, focus on improving all of that and not on women at all. And if you find that a place doesn't suit you anymore, move on. There is nothing else you can do at the moment, and nothing else you should do desu.

>the bbc

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No. The reality is that white women still settle down overwhelmingly with white men, but are simply far more willing to indulge a fetishistic sexual fascination with the animalistic black man and to 'sample' outside their race in this manner. The things they like about them are all animalistic in nature - to do with their physicality and aggression and the implicit aggressive nature of their dark skin etc.

This 'experimentation' obviously can't be forgiven, but is not really UNDERSTOOD by modern white women as being an actual betrayal of their identity/roots. So you DO have to turn your back on these coalburners for your own Pride but they themselves will never understand why they have made themselves tainted and worthless.

Sure, they have some inkling that their sexual preferences rest partly on degrading animalistic fascination with rough and regressive men, but they do not understand that, by indulging these impulses with blacks, they have broken a would-be bond of common identity with their future white husbands - ie they do not understand, at least not on an articulated level, that sex itself is a form of identity melding, a union where part of oneself is overwritten onto the other, and that by admitting the black into her self sexually like that she has taken on a taint that lasts forever.

The nature of that 'taint' is is something like this: White identity at the basic level of our racial traits is about a rejection of the animalistic ape-like regression of the black man and the achievement of a social balance that fosters civilisation, raising us above the condition of animals. Intelligence, geniality, mildness and our White aesthetic all come together to make us the human - as opposed to animalistic - entity that we are.

Sex with black guys is her choosing to meld herself with a kind of animal entity and qualities that are incompatible with white identity...

That's why there is no going back. She may not know she's choosing, but she is.

You sound like you don't know many white women.

I think you're running the ball up a bit hard here. Hypergamy in early agriculural societies would be both unstable and special-case, where the males benefiting would be those who were able to farm and administer the most amount of fertile land.

Hypergamy in most cases in the animal kingdom is not centred around males who are industrious or smart but rather those who are physically impressive and highly promiscuous.

Most iterations of Hypergamy in nature are highly stable, and simply result in a selective pattern for that species which skews towards greater physical mass or display systems as well as lower pair-bonding investment. Not a great way to go, but not an ecological disaster, either.

If humanity hit hypergamy-related speedbumps along its road to civilisation, that does not mean that, especially by the time of the Agricultural revolution 10,000 years ago, human societies were not already heavily modelled on large scale cooperation of males and continued to be modelled on this premise thereafter.

Also the costs of gestation make human females HIGHLY selective about their mate, both in terms of the quality of a co-parent and the quality of sperm donor - though hopefully those two are the same person.

BE FUCKING CHAD DUMBASS
Dont let the fucking mainstream fuck with your head. BE THE ONE THEY WANT DERP
Then once you have them where you want them tell them ONE word.
NO
Women only want what they cant have.

>Also the costs of gestation make human females HIGHLY selective about their mate

This isn't actually true.

You have twice as many female ancestors as you do male, this means the average number of children had by men is either two, or none. Where as for women the average is one.

This pretty clearly illustrates a large dichotomy between risk of gestation vs the rewards of successfully defending a female from predators and supplying her and your children with sufficient food.

A pregnant woman without a male for the past 400 thousand years was 100% going to die. Whereas a male who's mate has died in childbirth may have sunk considerable risk and effort up until that point, there's still a significant chance of successful reproduction for the majority of his life cycle.

Women couldn't afford to be choosey about very many things at all if the male could at least provide for her the basic necessities needed to survive.

>How can we have a Society when we can't produce offspring, how can we bring white women to the light so that we can get on with real change and start upping our birthrates, post your best answers/theories below.
You have to offer a sense og community. Also you have to accept that women need
- Be educated
- Have a job (part time while the children are young maybe)
- Have hobbies and intrests
- Have children

>many men go far into their 20s
By what age do you think a male should lose his virginity?

That just means they couldn't choose NOT to have a mate. They still had to be choosy about which mate was the best sperm donor/co-parent and they were SO choosy in this that many males missed OUT on being selected.

Hypergamy is females being MORE choosy than men, not less. That's the whole reason why a small number of males absorb a large number of females in that situation.

>You sound like you don't know many white women.
You have some insight?

Aight that's respectable. I'm 1.96 cm and 90 KG, currently bulking.

Are you training for a possible race war or not?

You've missed the mathematical sub-structure of what I said.

>They still had to be choosy about which mate was the best sperm donor/co-parent and they were SO choosy in this that many males missed OUT on being selected

Also, no, you bloody buffoon. Men died at twice the rate women did as a result of the difficulties involved in securing food and shelter for their mates.

Hypergamous selection is an adaptation to agriculture.

Lay this out for me because obviously I'm too stupid to understand:

The average woman would be twice as likely to reproduce as the average man.

Successful men would be twice as reproductively successful as the average woman.

Men died at twice the rate women did - men from environment, women from childbirth, hence the disparity in reproductive success ratio.

These conditions are in place for '400 thousand years' and then... this somehow makes women less choosy than men, and makes hypergamy explode in the agricultural revolution, despite the agricultural revolution drastically reducing the scarcity of both food and shelter as reducing the number of deaths of men trying secure said goods?

And your theory somehow also makes Hypergamy, which occurs all over the animal kingdom - lions, gorillas etc - an ADAPTATION to agricultural conditions, despite being less necessary (less scarcity and fewer male deaths) and (in your own telling) highly genetically unstable/devastating to that population.

So you have the differing male/female reproductive success ratio, which predates agriculture in your telling and puts HUGE pressures on females to select able and cooperative mates - but this ratio is being used to back up an argument about the development of hypergamy - a nearly universal practice - during the agricultural revolution - an event which REDUCED environmental scarcity - and this same argument states that hypergamy under those conditions was disastrously unstable.

I'm actually honestly confused here.

>white supremacist
>thinks white women prefer black men

I'll never understand this. Do you get your information exclusively from Stormfront and cuckold porn? Do you think that because you don't have sex that white women all have jungle fever? You NEETsocs are really sick and have a warped view of reality. Fix yourself, it's clear this comes from a position of unhappiness in your own life.

It's very simple.

Human females are at a disadvantage, genetically, unless they can secure a mate who can provide food and shelter for them. And men are at a disadvantage, genetically, because they have to secure the food and shelter and assume higher risk of death.

This is all very complicated mathematically, which I would require numerous posts to illustrate, but the principal revelation here at the end of the calculations is that human males have had significantly more evolutionary pressure put on them than females, and that men are the ones with the majority of the bargaining power in sexual selection; In pre-agricultural conditions.

I would suggest reading the extended phenotype by Richard Dawkins as a gateway to some of the more complex math by more influential scientists.

Also, keep in mind men still have the better bargaining position up until about 1950.

It gets complicated once you hit the 7th century, but still calculated easily if you have solid frameworks.