The People keep the government alive through taxes, why can’t the government keep us alive by paying for our healthcare?

The People keep the government alive through taxes, why can’t the government keep us alive by paying for our healthcare?

Pay for your own goddamn healthcare, faggot.

No action can be considered moral if it was performed under threat of violence

It literally says it in the constitution

“The concern of the government for the health, peace, morality, and safety of its citizens. ”

HEALTH

Putting something on paper does not automatically make it right.

It’s the supreme law of the land. Deal with it, vlad

who gives a shit what happens to this godless materialistic covert socialist world empire. Its a shithole, run by shitheads, with shit ideologies.

Let it fuckin burn.

>health

As in they're going to make sure somebody doesn't sell you snake oil or put dog shit in your food. It doesn't mean the government is going to provide you a free service by drafting someone else.

This is not law. This is legislation!
>health, peace, morality, and safety
If this is considered to be 'the role' of the government. Please tell me how efficient government in tackling such issues?
Law comes from actions not words on paper.

No one deserves to live you mooks.

The people keeping the government alive with their taxes don't need the government to give them healthcare.
Completely changes the dynamic, doesn't it.

>pay gubment
>gubment pays for my healthcare
>I end up paying for my own healthcare

>pay gubment
>gubment doesnt pay for my healthcare
>i end up paying for my own healthcare

What's the difference of the end result is the same?

Anyone who cannot afford to pay for his medical bills is utterly useless parasite and should be forced to die. Spending community money on them benefits literally nobody.

I should also mention that before you say some stupid shit you should go and research the subject. Read Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 22 (1905)
>mfw 'vlad'
>mfw I know more about US law than US citizen

Is the government made up of healthcare workers?
If not they'd just force some other guy to work for your healthcare...

But the constitution is a living document that can be re-interpreted however you want. "Health" is like computer health, is it running efficiently? Sometimes you need a purge and culling to improve the health of the citizenry.

(you) for bringing up case law

Just read it. Not even applicable.
That's compulsory vaccines for the health of a society, not scope of healthcare insurance.

Here is the ratio decidendi you lazy fuck
>Although that Preamble indicates the general purposes for which the people ordained and established the Constitution, it has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government.

PAY...

>>Although that Preamble indicates the general purposes for which the people ordained and established the Constitution, it has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government.
Snowden, simmer your tits.
What even is your argument and can it be side stepped with the 5th amendment.

Because they suck at planning such a thing and there is power leaking from every orifice of a democracy so that corruption can spread the profits around.

>The concern of the government for the health

Why not put a fat tax? That would be another way for the government to show concern for the health of its citizens.

dumb af, sage goes everywhere; sage

The constitution says that the Supreme court handles matters of interpretation, so it is significant when they say that some passage does not "confer any substantive power on government". You read "health" and wonder what it means, and vlad tells you what it means. Your supreme court is the arbiter and sovereign, not any interpretation of what the constitution is supposed to be as an ideal.

>The constitution says that the Supreme court handles matters of interpretation, so it is significant when they say that some passage does not "confer any substantive power on government."
Yes and no. Many parts of the constitution are considered unambiguous. One of the most prominent examples is the right to keep and bear arms as well as establish civil militias.
>You read "health" and wonder what it means, and vlad tells you what it means.
Bitch, where.
>Your supreme court is the arbiter and sovereign, not any interpretation of what the constitution is supposed to be as an ideal.
It is arbiter, not sovereign. Congress could get rid of the Supreme Court all together by the end of the month, if they wanted and Trump was willing to sign. If over 2/3 of them vote for it, they don't need Trumps signature.

No 1 cares about your bloody obama care failure of a system.

That you made two payments in the second scenario you retard

how thirsty.
cool off, thirsty man!

stop being poor.

Poverty is a mental illness.

the government doesn't deserve to be kept alive and neither do you

>One of the most prominent examples is the right to keep and bear arms.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>Bitch, where?
It has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government.
>Congress could get rid of the Supreme Court all together by the end of the month.
Citation needed

services for pay = business
taxes for gibs to illegal immigrants = government

>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
exactly
>It has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government.
Exactly. The actual language about life, liberty,
and property (stolen from John Locke) appears in the 5th amendment and it's about due process.
>Citation needed
You know case law but appropriations and amendments confuse you?

Because enough people in america have enough sense to realize that the government controlling your health has potential to be disastrous.

I think if this country was pure white or at least 90% white I would be all for health care for all and it must have strict laws regulating who can use it aka nonwhites would have to go get fucked immigrants couldn't get it. Most people whom are against it are nonwhites retard basic bitch republicans every other white person would agree with me. We need to help each other out whites around us are our extended family

jews

>math is racist
>financial responsibility is racist
There is no hope.

I can't tell if you're being serious, sarcastic, or ironic.
>this is the world the liberals have made for us

That entails legal entitlement to the labor of the doctors.
Isnt that fucking slavery?

Gtfo normal fag

>exactly
Then why did you say this
>Many parts of the constitution are considered unambiguous
>Exactly.
Then why do we even argue on the issue?
>You know case law but appropriations and amendments confuse you?
This is not the issue of appropriations and amendments. You have the doctrine of 'jurisdiction stripping'. It grants the power to eliminate the single judicial review, but not the court itself.

>Then why did you say this
I told you that some parts of the constitution were unambiguous. Gun ownership is unambiguous. I would be willing to bet that's why a case has never made it to the Supreme Court challenging the NFA. The intention has always been clear.
>Then why do we even argue on the issue?
That's what I'm wondering.
>This is not the issue of appropriations and amendments. You have the doctrine of 'jurisdiction stripping'. It grants the power to eliminate the single judicial review, but not the court itself.
Which is where the supremacy clause comes into play. Justice department can't run without money or legal cause.

That's literally what private insurers have been doing forever. Live healthily and pay less premiums. Not sure if there's regulations against it now (except for smoking).

>pic related
I went to public school in a rich neighborhood, and a "live within your means" class was required for graduation. I wonder how many poor public schools even teach that class.

>this is literally the society liberals have left us
I spend more time in /k/ and less time in Sup Forums everyday.