An increase in the influence of women in
public life has often been associated with national
decline. The later Romans complained
that, although Rome ruled the world, women
ruled Rome. In the tenth century, a similar
tendency was observable in the Arab Empire,
the women demanding admission to the
professions hitherto monopolised by men.
‘What,’ wrote the contemporary historian,
Ibn Bessam, ‘have the professions of clerk,
tax-collector or preacher to do with women?
These occupations have always been limited
to men alone.’ Many women practised law,
while others obtained posts as university
professors. There was an agitation for the
appointment of female judges, which,
however, does not appear to have succeeded.
Soon after this period, government and
public order collapsed, and foreign invaders
overran the country. The resulting increase
in confusion and violence made it unsafe for
women to move unescorted in the streets,
with the result that this feminist movement
collapsed.
An increase in the influence of women in
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Good thing it's not a thousand years ago then? We are far more enlightened as a species and can handle social issues sensibly now, so stop falsely linking the rise of gender equality to the decline of civilization just so you can try to seize our rights you toxic swine.
Perhaps the most dangerous by-product of
the Age of Intellect is the unconscious
growth of the idea that the human brain can
solve the problems of the world. Even on the
low level of practical affairs this is patently
untrue. Any small human activity, the local
bowls club or the ladies’ luncheon club,
requires for its survival a measure of selfsacrifice
and service on the part of the
members. In a wider national sphere, the
survival of the nation depends basically on
the loyalty and self-sacrifice of the citizens.
The impression that the situation can be
saved by mental cleverness, without unsel-
fishness or human self-dedication, can only
lead to collapse.
Thus we see that the cultivation of the
human intellect seems to be a magnificent
ideal, but only on condition that it does not
weaken unselfishness and human dedication
to service. Yet this, judging by historical
precedent, seems to be exactly what it does
do. Perhaps it is not the intellectualism
which destroys the spirit of self-sacrifice—the
least we can say is that the two,
intellectualism and the loss of a sense of
duty, appear simultaneously in the life-story
of the nation.
Indeed it often appears in individuals, that
the head and the heart are natural rivals. The
brilliant but cynical intellectual appears at
the opposite end of the spectrum from the
emotional self-sacrifice of the hero or the
martyr. Yet there are times when the perhaps
unsophisticated self-dedication of the hero is
more essential than the sarcasms of the
clever.
Your pasta is hard for me to read, but
>The impression that the situation can be
saved by mental cleverness, without unsel-
fishness or human self-dedication, can only
lead to collapse.
This is untrue, mutually beneficial collectivism can easily exist, for example if i specialized in farming and you specialized in the making of shelter and we both shared our products, it'd be far more efficient than both of us trying to learn both trades in isolation. I would argue that loyalty is also a product of selfishness, as I know that I am a nationalist due to my own self interest, I pay taxes and refuse to have my money be spent on foreign entities, countries, and Invaders that don't. We as a nation are binded together by our taxpaying and should selfishly look out for one another because of it.
Selflessness and loyalty has nothing to do with it just like how me having tits has nothing to do with if I should have more or less rights.
people.uncw.edu
read a book.
history repeats like a clock, and western civilization will die this century.
Oh really, like a clock? Can you tell me the Roman's policy on nuclear deterrents? Or could it be that our physical, social, and political environment changes completely over time and certain history lessons become nonapplicable to our current situation.
Critically think.
would you spend five minutes and read the pdf?
Alright, hold on, I'll read it.
Women's liberation was a mistake. We don't need to have a less competent, less intelligent and weaker both emotionally and mentally group in important positions. Just put them back to the kitchen and let them have kids. That's what they want anyway, seeing as how women are unhappier now than they have ever been.
I'm not gonna read a 26 page essay, but I do agree with his proposition that we study history as a whole and try to figure out reoccurring patterns.
Go fuck yourself. Every IQ test proves that women are of equal intelligence, and since when did we discriminate the rights of people who are physically weaker? Should physically weaker men not be allowed to work certain ( non physical ) jobs that they otherwise meet the requirements for? And how are we weaker emotionally? If anything men are the ones that are emotionally retarded, we're only unhappier now because of people like you.
but user, think about the lesbians!
modern feminism is fucking gay.
IQ is irrelevant, it is the nature of Women that is compromises society not their actual intelligence
you stupid fucking roastie
>Nurturing
>Kind
>Empathetic
>Polite
>Compromises society
You must be a fucking genius. In what way is our nature an affront to civilization? Half of every society was founded by women, because we're half the population so you need to shut up, and sit down, you gorilla.
If Hillary and obumber turn out to be crooks steps may be taken. At the very least no 0ne will vote for a woman or minority in thier lifetimes.
>Nurturing
>Kind
>Empathetic
Exactly those are the problems. That's exactly why for 99.99% of all societies during history and now are lead by men and not women
Societies and civilizations were founded on collectivism, getting along with and empathizing one another being the key point of that, instead of being hostile and isolated. I'd say those traits, when directed properly, are huge assets to a society. Things like empathizing with foreign Invaders that rape and kill us, would be what I consider misplaced empathy, which is bad.
And many leaders of countries are now female, 99.99% is a gross misrepresentation of modern leadership
>Things like empathizing with foreign Invaders that rape and kill us, would be what I consider misplaced empathy, which is bad.
literally europe right now
>Societies and civilizations were founded on collectivism, getting along with and empathizing one another being the key point of that, instead of being hostile and isolated.
my fucking word you are a woman, naive like a child just as all women are
what IS a colonial empire, what IS a crusade, what IS eternal war, what IS the human condition
modern technological world is built on war and conflict
laffin' @ u
>We are far more enlightened as a species and can handle social issues sensibly now
Oh boy......
You're so wrong, i don't even know where to begin.
unironically looking forward to being replaced by sexbots and artificial wombs
>And many leaders of countries are now female,
and look how those countries are doing. Kinda proving his point there.
Once we can grow soldiers in artificial wombs what use do we have for women, really?
Yup.
All those things were to expand pre-existing civilizations though? If I were you I'd stop laughing and keep my head down, you're embarrassing yourself.
Start from the beginning, that's usually the best place to start.
Lol, okay, you kind of have a point there, but many male leaders are fucking up too, fucking up's not a uniquely female trait of leaders.
You can't just, cut out the rest of humanity to make room for more warring. There's more to life than that.
>Nurturing
>Kind
>Empathetic
>Polite
>Compromises society
That's the issue.
>Nurturing
an naive
>Kind
giving away amounts of resources that cannot be afforded
>Empathetic
being overly trusting to invading forces that have every intention of taking over, because she identifies with their humanity without also identifying with any of the darker sides of that same humanity.
>Polite
passive aggressive; bottling things up so cruelty manifests as subtle actions rather than getting issues out in the open and dealing with them
>Compromises society
Indeed.
Because there must be a balance, and a feminised government or society collapses under the folley of its own naive attempt at mothering the world.
These good instincts are not, nor should they ever, under any circumstances to be applied on mass or in the context of country-wide rule.
These good instincts manifest their qualities when aimed at her children (with a male figure present as well to counterbalance it with some harsh reality).
There is a very.
Very good reason not one single feminised civilisation has ever managed to last; it's because they are immediately and without fail taken advantage of, because they simply do not have what it takes to survive in this environment called earth.
You are super naive, memeflag. I'm hoping you are bait otherwise rethink your life because guys like you tend to get rekt by ugly divorces they didn't see coming.
it's too late to stop it now. just make sure that you won't help out any roasties during WW3
no there's not. just let them do the thing.
All your points are true when those traits are applied towards other countries, but aren't when they are applied inward to helping fellow citizens. Letting someone with masculine traits deal with foreign policy would fix all those issues.
Well I don't think I'm naive, and I don't have to worry about that because I have a vagina.
Fucking ignorant idiot. Open your eyes and use brain.
Oh sorry, u cant, cuz you're a woman, meaning have no capability to think and reason objectively.
> reality is now a “toxic ideology“ according to the underevolved femsle gender.
This, this mental total retardation of women, is the REASON for the collapse.
Happens all the time when u let idiots rule. Naturally.
You fucking raped this thread you disrespectful shithead of a human being. You have added nothing of value to this thread.
Oh now I understand why I don't respect you, stupid cunt.
More than likely the same pattern would be observed in Babylonian, Egyptian, Chinese, Indian, etc. civilizations. Success brings softness and womanly ways. Weakness brings collapse, manliness is forced to return and find its way...
>Some guy copypastaing excerpts from an essay based on a false premise
Yeah, I reeeeally fucked this thread up, you got me.
You're the one not adding any value, you fucking parasite.
Not a feminist, but you probably couldn't figure that out with your.mental deficiency, you antagonistic piece of human garbage.
>Open your eyes and use brain
>And use brain
Nice, I bet trump was speaking to people like you when he said we need more brain.
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Likewise, dick.
>I'm not gonna read
stop the presses
Pasta is a term reserved for very specific occurrences of copying and pasting of a paragraph, you are applying it to what is essentially a fucking quotation you stupid bitch, so already you irk my by the fact that you are misusing Sup Forums memes in an effort to appear to be like one of us, which you clearly aren't.
This whole thread and your activity in it is a testament to the loud mouth you must have in real life, you are annoying beyond measure, first you argue against the cyclical nature of history only to agree with it in a later post.
You are all over the place, there is no fucking coherence in your thinking and you're not even aware of it you stupid gash.
the thing about sexism in our society is that feminism took the wrong turn of making women take on the roles that men usually take, it was supposed to work out that men needed to take on feminine values. Especially in the 20's when the industrial revolution was disrupting every industry, women children and elderly were provided for like never before, thus the notion of feminism to allow men be socially included in that safety net. instead, women were made to get careers and work more like men in a century long economic overdrive. and now people can't cope with the power politics of hypersexualization
You should celebrate the New Year in Cologne.
Your example is invalid. While Nuclear Deterrence specifically is a new concept, the wider context in which Nuclear Weapons play a role in (i.e balance of power between countries and preventing an outbreak of war between countries) has been a cornerstone of European Politics since the Thirty Years' War. Going further, the same scenario rang true for the world of Antiquity, with the Roman Empire sandwiched between Carthage and the Hellenic World.
Did you read it? That's what I thought. It's so fucking long winded too, the author could've made his points a lot more succinct.
Board culture is a term reserved for very specific occurrences of being a huge faggot of a human being, you are applying it to what is essentially a non-issue, you stupid bitch, so already you irk me by the fact that you are crying about Sup Forums memes in an effort to appear to be like one of us, which you clearly aren't.
How about that time the city of Rome was besieged by AI robots backed by Bio-Sensing drones?
No man will ever truly love you, you know that? The only value you add to anything is your tits and ass. Any man of worth won't entertain your stupid woman logic long enough to hear you talk. You'll find a worthless man someday who is either as feminized as you and thinks anything you have to say is worthwhile, or you'll find a man with few options who listens to you talk just so he can get inside you.
Men see women for the parasites our grandfathers didn't, because you have lost the only value you ever had once you entered the workforce and public sphere. Now you are the cancer that is killing western civilization. The next iteration of civilization will be built by men who won't entertain your misguided nature. The only women who will have a place will be homemaking mothers. This will last for a while, until society becomes so safe and easy that men - once again - forget the true destructive capabilities of women and let them back into public life. Then it will collapse and start all over again.
In conclusion, you offer no value outside of your tits, which you have not shown, so you can GTFO.
The issue is that those traits are applied to people seeking citizenship, and then as soon as they have that (which is easy), then they're ticking all yours (and the majority of women's) criteria for "this person is okay to splerg my matriarchal instincts all over".
You still run the risk of what is essentially creating a state-run oedipal complex that keeps people soft and without a backbone on which to stand upright, whilst ALSO funding lifestyles of brand new citizens which then ALSO makes becoming a citizen that much more of a temptation for even more non-citizens, especially the estranged family members of those who did come.
It's just not viable in any sense, and vapidly serves to do nothing less than provide those performing this ill-advised charity a short-lived sense of present-dwelling virtue.
The goal of a society should be to age like a fine wine or single malt; not like a tank of milk...
Nicely done.
>Did you read it?
If you haven't read that then you're not qualified to speak on this subject. It runs down in detail the history of every empire in stages. The last stage is the stage we are in now - when women leave the home, enter the public sphere and institute policies that destroy the society from the inside - unknowingly, because they apply the the same instincts which make them good mothers to the world as a whole and they're actually bad instincts then. They do not translate well.
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Good thread OP. history repeats itself again again because we are too stupid to learn from it
feminism has done exactly what it was meant to do. industrial revolution isn't when they first tried pushing it on us, it's when they finally got it to stick
>enlightened
fukkin rekt and chekt
Well, I stand corrected, I suppose there were equivalent situations due to huge gaps in technology between civilizations.
Lol, I must've forgot about that incident, my knowledge of Roman history is a little spotty.
>Dismisses me without rebuttal based on my gender then proceeds to talk about the weak -> strong -> weak cycle long-windedly
You sound fun. If I'm truly wrong you'll educate me, otherwise concede.
Fair enough, if that's truly what that article is about then I apologise, and I suppose I had no right to dismiss it so easily in the first place. I'm sorry.
The solution to that problem is merit based immigration instead of citizenship for those born in the land (wtf?) Or illegal immigration/refugees. When those allowed in all raise the bar, the problem solves itself. Not something I'd consider conflicting with feminine leadership.
Well, no shit. You knowingly inserted yourself into a conversation you had no idea about. When someone tried to enlighten you on it, you refused to read it because, "OMG 26 pages", but you kept blabbering on anyway. Then someone had to come in and give you a simple, by the numbers, two sentenced rundown before you finally got it. The willful ignorance followed by unearned arrogance is one of the female traits that preclude you from being good leaders, politicians or policy makers. Congratulations, your posts are a microcosm of female destructiveness.
>intellectualism
more like pseudoscience and indocrination
>Women's liberation was a mistake
more of a deliberate plan to bring Western civilization to its knees
>If I'm truly wrong you'll educate me, otherwise concede.
By making yourself anything but a mother and a homemaker as your first and foremost quality, you have automatically lowered your value. Only the most brainwashed of beta males want their children raised in daycares, want to spend their evenings splitting chores and housework that a stay-at-home wife could have done and freed up time, and believe that a working wife is preferable. You've already precluded yourself from the top percent of men who are able to see past this modern delusion. As such, anyone you are eventually with is inherently a less alpha male than one you could get by being a quality mother. If you wish to work, do it once the kids are in school but don't be a 'career woman'. Your kids must come first.
You are making the choice to be a subpar mother willingly. Thus, you are a subpar female and will have a subpar mate. You will know this, too. Women that marry betas know deep down. Just like everything else they know, it's not a conscious though but an instinct. You will constantly be unhappy but never understand exactly why. You'll rebel like a child in a number of ways and browbeat your husband, who will take it and try to appease you or lash out like a woman and try to argue back against you, when really he'd just laugh at you, pick up his keys and walk out if he were worth a shit. He'd burn the relationship to a ground in a moment and you'd be aware of this, thus keeping you in line. But you won't get a man like that. You'll get a man who constantly tries to appease you. The more he tries to appease you, the less you'll respect him.
All I'm saying is that history repeats, but imperfectly. Small simple things like the instant communication that we now have, completely change the situation. Civilizations have fallen due to becoming too big and bloated, and thus unmanagable from one single position of power, but you wouldn't say they couldn't exist now, because instant communication closes that weakness.
So to say that women coming into power is going to be the ruin of us just because it's happened a few times before is overly simplistic, because gender Dynamics are very different now in the modern age than they have ever been. So some things obviously aren't applicable, no need to be a dick about it.
Gender dynamics are not any different. Women haven't changed since the last time this happened. The same mistakes are being repeated right now that they repeated every other time. You still haven't read the intimidating 26 page novel or you're choosing to just ignore everything it showed.
It actually is women ruining us. They overwhelming vote for the very things that destroy us here in America. In Europe, Merkel's 'motherly instincts' are being spewed out onto an entire continent because she never found the right outlet by actually having a child, and that continent is forever changed now, if not gone forever. The females in charge of Sweden are undoing thousands of years of their own ancestry in the name of female ideals like 'equality' and 'progressiveness'. I'm not being a dick, I'm telling you things apparently all the males in your life and too weak to tell you. Jews effectively destroyed the West simply by convincing us to let our women be 'free' and 'equal' and letting them do what they naturally do: destroy nations.
I make 70k a year. It's not the most but I'm doing much better than most people I went to highschool with. I'd say that's adding more value than if I were a homemaker, which is essentially maid+cook+life coach. And I have the option to switch to homemaker if I do start a family, in short I have freedom. I like having freedom.
And how would useless dead weight "stay at home" mother's, which is usually code for I'm going to stay home and do shit all while letting the kids watch TV and heat up a precooked meal, add more value than me? Those women are generally mindless scum and I'd imagine more capable men would want to be with more capable women.
I agree that children should come first.
Again, subpar is debatable. And you're making a lot of presumptions on who I'd want to be with. Do you seriously believe I'm going to work this hard then settle for a fucking loser? Think about it.
Well alright, I do get the feeling that you know what you're talking about, I don't know or agree with your assessment of the Jews, but Merkel and Sweden definitely did fuck up pretty hard and cause suffering for millions. I'll go read that 26 page essay in a couple hours, but only because you convinced me to, with your logic.
And I'm sorry for calling you names.
If your idea of what a stay at home mother involves heating up a precooked meal while your kids waste away in front of the TV, then perhaps you are better off in the work force, because you should not be a mother. The role of a mother is irreplaceable and invaluable to the continuation of a society.
>merit based immigration
I'm fine with that
>instead of citizenship for those born in the land
that's too far.
>Or illegal immigration/refugees.
Immigration is fine, but it cannot be open - it has to be merit based and from cultures compatible to our own; that's not even a western applicable idea, it's a worldwide-applicable formula.
The "we'z a melting pot, therefore shitting in the pot is completely fine" meme needs to die in a fire and never ever return.
The issue with feminine leadership is that it simply does not do that; you as an individual may be absolutely fine, i'm british, we've had many extremely good female queens that ruled the largest empire ever to span the earth, but they did so as individuals, and an individual can transcend the norm of their group from time to time.
The issue is feminisation, not individual females - it seems like needless pedantry, but it's an extremely important distinction to make.
The larger a group gets, the more zombified, sluggish and a slave to its instincts it gets; and therein lies the foundation of the problem with feminised governments - as a collective, they become fundamentally weak.
An overly masculine collective can have its ills too (look at the middle east for example), but you couldn't argue for a second they're easy pickings for subversion or abuse of trust.
The tempered sword and shield of the west has always been its steady balance of the feminine and masculine aspects of human nature in politics; but the knight who drops is sword to cling doubly to his shield is in a far, far worse position than the knight who drops his shield to wield with two hands his sword...
I am sad that you hold the position of motherhood so low.
>Thinks because some stay at home moms are lazy means that's all a mom does
My wife works out, takes my child to the park or the woods, teaches him early how to read and write, shows him how to paint, and spends time playing nonsense and bonding with him. Once again, women are their own worst enemies by trying to socially shame stay at home moms. You bought the feminism meme.
You do know that all of the things a capable housewife does are done in order to glue a family together? Homecooked meals at the dinner table, a clean house and chores done during the day so evenings and weekends are family and relaxation time? So that BOTH partners and the kids are less stressed, not overworked and generally happier, which leads to a happier relationship and happier life?
>Do you seriously believe I'm going to work this hard then settle for a fucking loser? Think about it.
No, you're going to refuse to marry someone who makes less than you, wonder why you're alone at 30 years old, then settle for some beta who wants your dried up eggs and roasty vag. Any man who is making close to six figures is not going to be interested in some roasty, uppity career woman unless he is a complete and total beta. Women don't marry down, so if you find some alpha who is simultaneously happy making less money than you, you won't even date him seriously.
that is a great post
the last line is poetic
>And I'm sorry for calling you names.
Well, apology accepted but it's kind of the way it is here, so it's whatever. I actually don't hate women. What I hate is that they are unable to see how we've been manipulated as a society to misplace our values and chase things that don't need to be chased. Men slave away at jobs to make women and kids happy and safe. If I didn't have a family I'd be living in the woods and happier than a pig in shit. Women got sold a meme. They have been convinced that a housewife is a shameful thing. It's not. My wife became one out of just a weird combination of circumstances after we both had planned on her having a career. Turns out, she fucking loves it. She learned how to cook after not knowing how at all, she has a super strong bond with our kid that the working moms we know don't have, and because of the work she does during the day our marriage is about a million times stronger and happier. We were on the verge of divorce. That's a long story, but we both had a hand in that. Her staying at home has increased my respect for her by magnitudes and has given us the ability to work past the bullshit and be happy. I wished this were true for so many more families.
The problem isn't that women are weaker (irrelevant) or dumber (doubt that is true) but that women don't need to excel to advance in a field.
Bluntly men will do favors for women, like promote them or give them power, just to try and get in their pants. Thats how you get entitled idiots into positions of power in a systemic sense.
Really seems like the issue of men only ever thinking with their dicks. The problem of women being incompetent is because they are not forced to be competent like men are.
Well said
I meant let's not grant citizenship to pregnant Chinese who fly here with the specific intention to birth their child here for free citizenship, I didn't mean let's not give citizenship to the children of two citizens, although that actually has some merits. And I agree completely with you.
This is only partially true. Holding women accountable like men is something against the nature of both sexes, so if it ever were to happen in a society you'd have a truly genderless, bland society but that's not really my point. Women by nature don't like to be held accountable. Even in the military they will cry if you talk to them too mean (i.e. anywhere close to the way you can talk to a male), make up excuses for their behavior, and many times make up things that never happened to get a male in trouble who simply tried to hold them accountable. If women enjoyed being held accountable they would ask to be held accountable and work as hard as men in order to be respected like men. Instead, they form Human Resource departments and police people's behaviors.
While some women are way out of the norm and can achieve great things, the vast majority of females are less intelligent than men with a very steady baseline of IQ and ability. Men are the experiment, women are the control. Women control the birth of new members of society, while men are expendable and their vastly varied capabilities and mindsets eventually work to improve humanity.
You just made a lot of solid points, some of them upset me a little but I can't really... Refute them. What are your thoughts on stay at home dad's, divorce laws and common law marriage? Do you have a blog or is there a site that you strongly agree with it's articles? I want to read more.
Stay at home dads can work out, it's true. There are examples of this happening. However, men and women are never happy in a relationship where the woman is seen as the provider. Women need to respect their men or they can't love them. The few men I know who stay at home work from home in some manner. I have a friend who stays at home and typically does the cooking and such because while the kids are at school he does contracting jobs and builds stuff. Their house is filled with home made furniture, and he's always working on their own house in some manly way. His wife is in finance so she makes a shit ton of money but he coaches all of his kid's sports and she comes home and he's doing manly shit. He works out like a beast and women are always all over him, so she still respects him. The ones who stay at home and just do mommy type shit all day long? Their women lose respect for them. I've straight told my wife I don't care if she loves me as long as she respects me. I don't need to be loved. Love will follow respect.
More coming.
Divorce laws originally meant well originally. They were from a time when housewife was the default and women were truly screwed if their husbands left. But society valued marriage and divorces weren't as common. Then feminism became mainstream and now women initiate 70% of the divorces because that safety net is there, so it's all fucked up. If divorces could be done on a case-by-case basis of merit, it'd be a lot different. I know way too many women who were the cause of a failing marriage who managed to get everything in the divorce from a man who had bent over backwards to make her happy. It's a system that lends itself to abuse, so it's not surprising that women abuse it. Getting completely rid of alimony and such will only further drive women away from wanting to be stay at home moms, because then there really is no safety net, so it's kind of a Catch 22.
A few points I need to disagree with first.
Women are stupid, yes, but so are men. People in general are one step above animals and cannot be trusted to rule their instincts with logic.
Once I got out of academia I witnessed first hand the general population. The males, especially, white or otherwise are animals. These people literally only ever think with their dick and are probably incapable of moral agency. Your own life experience should corroborate this if you are honest about it.
Yet, we don't punish all people for this. We understand there are better people and give them the opportunity to improve their life and gain influence over others.
You see the flaws of women keenly because you are not a women and they are obvious to you. Women are blamed for the destruction of civilization, but I don't buy it. An abundance of low quality men allows the infiltration of low quality women into positions of power.
I have met plenty of competent women and my life, and so have you. Men and women are not the same, but they are not different species ffs. Women are capable of accountability, moral reasoning and logic. Any proper western society needs to allow competent women the chance to do what they want with their life.
COMPETENT women. Both men and women in general right now are given too much liberty to shit on everything with their horrible animalistic behavior.
I'm certainly not saying that women should not have the capability to have a career. I just think society values the wrong things now. Women who really raise a family and manage a home add value that can not be replaced to a life. They become respected matriarchs of their family. But just from a practical standpoint, here are two lifestyles.
>Career wife
>Both parents home at 5 pm
>Dinner needs to get cooked, laundry done, vacuuming, sweeping, whatever
>Everyone is busy after a long day of work until after dinner @ 630
>Everyone is tired as hell anyway
>7pm, you get an hour before it's time to start getting ready for bed but there's usually still stuff to be done, like an extra trip to the store for something you forgot, something you need tomorrow, etc...
>Weekends have to have a few hours set aside for grocery shopping and more stuff that just pops up
>Housewife
>Dad comes home at 530
>Dinner on the table
>Everyone eats, nobody is overstressed or tired, kid's all excited about the things him and mommy got to do that day
>Chores all got done in the day, so after dinner you have hours of free time to play board games, go play catch, do whatever
>Even mom gets a break when dad and the kids do stuff if she needs or wants it
>Weekends are completely free
I don't make a ton of money but I own a nice house and we have everything we want or need.
Men and women will prosper more in rolls that fit their nature best. We as a society should encourage the sexes to move to these rolls rather than encourage it, but we should not enshrine it in law or dismiss people out of hand if their preference falls outside gender norms.
Men should not be pushed into caregiver positions, but if a man really wants to do it and can prove he is a nurturing as a women, let him.
Women should not be pushed into cutthroat executive or managerial positions, but if she can out-compete her male peers, then we should let her.
Do not conversate with (((females))).
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I have met very few competent women in my life, actually. They're not made for careers. Even the average man has contributed magnitudes more and been exponentially more capable in every activity or occupation I have had than 99% of the women I have worked with.
Men and women are not different species but to deny the differences that our different hormone cocktails cause in brain development, and subsequently our tendencies to succeed in different environments is shortsighted. You can find examples of transgenders and the way their very perception of reality changes as they start to ingest different hormones.
It just so happens that the most successful societies are and have always been made strong by women managing the home life while men do the things outside of it. We used to value both. Then the contributions of women got devalued by people who wanted to destroy the family and society. Women are not good at stick up for themselves and give in to shame easily, so what they should have done in retrospect is shout from the rooftops the value a homemaker brings to her family when a bunch of bulldykes started shaming them for staying at home.
It's converse you fucking HEATHEN
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War is the highest form of character test of an ethnicity; a true test of whether or not they are worthy of existence.
Do not read memeflag posts.
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tits or gtfo cunt, you know the rules
that last one, wth
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>Even the average man has contributed magnitudes more and been exponentially more capable in every activity or occupation I have had than 99% of the women I have worked with.
I simply don't believe it. This is confirmation bias, pure and simple. The average man is too stupid to balance his budget or plan a few weeks into the future. Any women who makes an effort to do a job (and not FUCKING SOCIALIZE with the FUCKING MANAGEMENT instead of DOING YOUR GODDAMN JOB yes I am still salty) will do better than a the "average" man.
I don't understand why you are placing the average man on a pedestal, he is almost worthless.
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Stop claiming to do things in the name of my own happiness.
Tits or GTFO
I just got through reading all your posts, thank you for all your insights, it's going to take me a bit to digest all of it but I just wanted to tell you I really appreciated you writing all of that out.
Also, are you sure women you've worked with have been almost universally more incompetent? I understand the free help double standard and I'm probably a bittttt biased but that's not been my experience at all.
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