CODE RED: Senate Democrats Snuck a Gun Control Poison Pill into Tax Reciprocity Bill

>Ketucky Republican Thomas Massie is blowing the whistle on a quiet attempt by the Democrats to piggyback gun control legislation onto the much anticipated national reciprocity bill heading to the floor for a vote.

>The bill, known as the “fix NICS” bill, is an Obama style regulation that, according to Massie, would require government entities to submit thousands of names into the NICS database for denial of the purchase of a firearm. The legislation is being quietly added in a Trojan Horse style by Democratic Senators Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein.

>Massie sounded the alarm through a post on Facebook, writing on how “the Senate version of this bill is cosponsored by Senator Dianne Feintstein and Senator Chuck Schumer.”:

>The bill itself is troubling, but as Massie points out, the bill was sent through committee a breakneck speed, breaking records for fast tracked legislation by entering and exiting committee, with approval, in a matter of hours. The speed at which the bill was passed meant that the bill wasn’t viewable by the public until after it had been approved.

redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/12/05/alarm-rep.-thomas-massie-exposed-big-democrat-gun-control-attempt-attached-reciprocity-bill/

How the FUCK did the Republicans miss this?

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They added a bunch of shit in pen before the vote and nobody read it

What was the content added by those dirty jews?

Law enforcement, instead of the courts, submit information to NICS. Meaning it's now done on arrest instead of on conviction.

Bump, do NOT let this slide

So the whole bill is dead? I want a record of the dems that vote against it.

I wish I was informed/responsible enough to get involved. All I can offer is my measly bump.

couldn't this get overturned easily in court
>man falsely accused of felony
>proven innocent in court
>cannot purchase gun b/c of felony arrest
>sues

Probably, once it gets to the House.

Senate should have seen this coming, but they were so desperate to get this passed that they didn't even think to notice.

Crooked kikes being crooked kikes.

But I thought democucks never looked at the bill. Lmfao, busted

Holy shit actual news. DON'T LET IT SLIDE

Look, if it includes anyone who hasn't been convicted of a felony all it takes is one person to sue for violation of due process guaranteed in the 5th and 14th amendments. It will easily be reversed by the courts.

Pass the bump!

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So, it this already been voted on or is this still "fixable".

Yes, but that will require someone to have the time and funds to fight it. Most people don't. Look at your drivers license for an example. The supreme court ALREADY ruled you don't need it to travel in an automobile but no one fights it.

If they fix it, it has to go back to the Senate, again.

It was the oldest trick in the book. Can't believe the Senate GOP didn't see it coming.

>obeying unconstitutional laws
lol

Still fixable. It needs to go through congress before anything happens.

Based Thomas Massie. I love that man and his chainsaw smile.

Travel =/= driving ya dingus. Being a passenger is traveling. Operating a motor vehicle on public roads is driving. Shit if you sovereign citizen types took 2 seconds to research any legal definitions there wouldn't be any of you left.

I swear. There is always one of you idiots. Travel in a legal sense. To "drive" is to be operating a motor vehicle in commerce. Limo driver, bus driver or driving a company vehicle. So many idiots, so little time.
“The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under this constitutional guaranty one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another’s rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct.”

Read it again. It is the supreme court ruling.

“The right of a citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but a common right which he has under his right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Under this constitutional guaranty one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another’s rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct.”

Read it once more if you need to.

Time 2 go out and buy some more guns!!!

They already do this and have been doing it for awhile now. A person cannot purchase a firearm when under indictment for a firearm ownership barring offense.
Wouldn't even need to go to court for it. Just need to get in touch with whomever processes the background checks and provide proof.

Thompson v.Smith, 154 SE 579, 11 American Jurisprudence, Constitutional Law, section 329, page 1135

It solidifies my point. The court rules people don't have to get a drivers license just to drive from point a to b, but people still think they need a license. The license only applies while in commerce.

>Just need to get in touch with whomever processes the background checks and provide proof.
That would be NICS. Lets be realistic here. Any time you combat the leviathan, you are David facing Goliath. They can and will hold up things like this as long as possible even if they're dead wrong. OR, they're having a pretty nice day and they wave you through.

It really all depends on what kind of human you're dealing with in that inhuman bureaucracy

snopes.com/supreme-court-rules-drivers-licenses-unnecessary/

lol snopes

Wrong.
Traveling in an automobile and operating it are too different things under the law.
-t current law student

Not gonna lie, former NRA supporter here. There is absolutely no reason for a citizen to own a high powered AR-15 military assault rifle with a clip that holds more then ten bullets. Its time for some common sense gun control in this country. I am glad to here the federal government is finally coming to its senses in these matters.

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They have the relevant portions quoted. This isn't politifact making a subjective assessment.

Just try driving without a license if you don't believe me.

Study harder:
What is TRAVEL?

To go from one place to another at a distance; to journey; spoken of voluntary change of place. See White v. Beazley, 1 Barn. & Aid. 171; Hancock v. Rand, 94 N. Y. 1, 46 Am. Rep. 112; Gholson v. State. 53 Ala. 521, 25 Am. Rep. 652; Campbell v. State, 28 Tex. App. 44, 11 S. W. 832; State v. Smith, 157 Ind. 241, 61 N. E. 566, 87 Am. St. Rep. 205.
-Black's Law Dictionary

What is DRIVER?

One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle,with horses, mules, or other animals, or a bicycle, tricycle, or motor car, though not a street railroad car. See Davis v. Petrinovich, 112 Ala. 654, 21 South. 344, 36 L. R. A.615; Gen. St. Conn. 1902,
_Black's Law dictionary

NOTE: the word "EMPLOYED"

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Ok, go ahead and drive without a license and show us all the results of arguing necessity of license in court. You gon learn, fool.

And this is a good example of why they do this shit to you. You allow them.

thelawdictionary.org/travel/

thelawdictionary.org/driver/

I raised this topic for a reason ;)

>Not gonna lie
Implying leftscums can ever not lie.
Dismissed.

There is literally nothing wrong with common sense gun control. How do you enjoy watching schools and churches getting shot up? Why do you hate children and the elderly so much?

Ever get tired of being wrong?

>posting naked bullshit
Go fuck yourself.
reason.com/archives/2017/11/12/real-common-sense-on-gun-control

People already do it. What kind of law student are you?

Go to 5 minutes:
youtube.com/watch?v=flykP99JnZU

You could easily look up many cases of people challenging it.

If you challenge, they back off. They rely on you backing down. They rely on you believing you have to pay a fee to simply travel in your automobile. To DRIVE, is to operate the vehicle while IN COMMERCE... EMPLOYED.

They need to stop sneaking shit into bills. They should get arrested for this shit. Seriously they should tear the bill open to check if things got sneaked into the bill and if so, toss it out.

>How the FUCK did the Republicans miss this?
because they don't actually care about the second amendment.

I know you're trolling and I hate you anyway.

None of the proposed laws would have prevented either of those scenarios.

The current law, which should have had the military report on the church shooter, already failed. More legislation isn't the answer, dingus.

>(((common sense gun control)))

Oh, you mean disarming the goyim? Fuck off, kike, you'll eat a bullet before you disarm anyone.

Get ready to be expelled from another nation soon enough!

>I was wrong
>But only cuz you're autistic

Neck yourself pls

I have not seen a single case law of this occurring. The docket in this video doesn't exist... you are too gullible, user.

Can somebody explain why deficits mean everything when Dems are in control yet nobody gives a fuck about them when Repubs are in control?

Instead of complaining, fair OP, perhaps you should understand this as a lesson in hypocrisy, honest debate, modesty, and not deciding things by a mere majority vote.

did this just happen? cant find much info?

Also, enjoy getting your vehicle impounded, ya dingus. You'll show them, I'm sure.

operating= making money
you can travel with your personal conveyance its covered in the BILL OF RIGHTS fucking IDIOT

Fuck off you fatass elephant

Sage

or at least admit that, in your rush to what you thought was a certain victory, you got played.

You're wrong. Plain and simple. Lying isn't going to prove wrong what there actually is evidence of. In the law dictionary, traveler and driver are two different things and a driver is operating in commerce. You are going to be one shitty lawyer(definitely a surplus on those). This isn't really a new topic.

You are arguing against the supreme court ruling. You are denying evidence of people challenging it. Go look it up. You are even arguing against Black's law dictionary.

Save face and walk away.

It's all moot ignorance because of the 10th amendment. Jurisdiction of traffic law falls on the state.

bump

Please read the 10th amendment and then show me in the constitution where traffic law is covered? Oh, there's no traffic section of the U.S. Constitution? Color me shocked. Whose jurisdicton handles cases not covered federally? The states. How many states regulate traffic by issuance of drivers licenses? All 50. Good luck out there. Enjoy your impound fees.

The state never overrules the constitution and the bill of rights.
State supreme court < Federal supreme court.
Seriously, what kind of lawyer is this going to be. kek

Anyways, this topic has it's own merit and there's no need to muddy it up anymore. My point stands. You back down and do what they tell you without a fight. THAT is why they sneak this kind of shit in. To bury you.

uhh no i was talking about travel, traffic isnt the same thing. like you fucking fibi agents always peddling your child vids on line to round up others in honeypots to traffic money to yourselves

your fucking scumbags its time since your trying to fuck up free speech for all your shit to come down. cause your building your fake utopia
et al the tower of babel
>image is of vids being used to push trafficing laws by pushing shit on people

dont worry the american governmnet has sent people out of the country for not going along with their shit and I dont fucking care. retard government have fun working on your own you stupiod fucks you where made by us, we will take you down when we dont support you any longer

Shut the fuck up
snopes.com/supreme-court-rules-drivers-licenses-unnecessary/
>inb4 LE SNOPES Xd

I am literally laughing. Federal law > state law. That is the whole reason the case went that far. FFS

I agree!!!

this guys talking about prohibition

and how they disallowed us americans to distill by theat, then they make you get a license when thats not dealing with trafficking. especially for yourself

You lack a foundational understanding of jurisdiction. I don't think any amount of reasoning is going to help you. You're a fool just looking for a way out, being mislead by other fools. You want to be an idiot and drive without a license, it's on you. I'm not going to waste any more time.

can someone explain to me pls why the fuck """"piggybacking"""" arbitrary shit into bills is even an allowed practice??

scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3467100988685921366
Let's put that in context.
Sovereign citizens are subhuman.

Hope the NRA gets really pissed off about this. We should contact them.

>Based Massie
I love this guy. We have the most based fucking politicians in Kentucky (besides Mitch McConnell)

Because our Government are a bunch of sneaky snakes and they have to cheat to accomplish anything!

Nothing in the nics bill expands the list of prohibited persons

>If you were perscribed medication for ADHD 15 years ago, you are no longer allowed to buy a firearm from an FFL dealer
Yid detected.

this is godamn so fucking retarded
police power is a idont know jew shit thing that america has turned into using JEW WORDS
becuase this COMMERCE regulates.. guess who mother fuckers? COPS

so these jews are trying to "poison the well" here to trick people who KNOW better and right

Adding riders is a long tradition, but legislators should be punished for passing legislation which they haven't even read.

because there's no reasonable way to stop it

i guess its that they BLIEVE their is police power
-or- TO COMMERCIALIZE people, thats not even able to be done.

check out the story of the tower of babel if you dont think so faggots oh wait your trying to

Lmfao!!! Good thing I have 5 AR-15's.....come try to take them from me

Nothing personal kid

(((reasonable)))
can you explain your jew shit of the word reasonable becuase you think we can uderstand your use of the blacks law dictionary at every seoncd to push your (((own))) shit fucking kike

Hey nigger post your no license and put you money where your mouth is.

t. Guy who falls asleep watching videos of sovereign citizens getting butt fucked fir no license

>Hope the NRA gets really pissed off about this. We should contact them.

Yes please do so we can kill the tax bill

bwahahahhahah

I have 17 driving without a license tickets. Never been to jail, I just pay a fine if I am caught. I ha ent had a license since 1999. But I have had 3 brand new cars since the n

>uhuhuu i can get money every second
keep running your godamn mouth as you attempt to get everyone to go along with
>jews never did nothing

go on with your religion twist bullshit shit thats all you ever do, acting like you talk about religoin then your oh a fucking white becuase you copy shit

godamn fucking jews shilling everything fuck them who cares

like they cant even prove their own side but they thijnk they can post online lies and dont even discern it themselvs but feel everyone else must see this SHIT

Police power is the basis of the state (monopoly on force). A law means nothing if it can't be physically enforced. A ruling on the power of a city is implicitly a ruling on the power of that city's police.

>so these jews are trying to "poison the well" here to trick people who KNOW better and right
What do you mean?

Citation needed

Does this bill affect dogs haha asking for a friend

BUMPIN

>your use of the blacks law dictionary at every seoncd
I haven't cited it once.

By "reasonable," I mean the following:
Bills are edited by Congressmen in committee. If the power to edit bills that were already written was denied to the legislators, they would simply hash out the details before sending the bills to committee.

Massie is a goddamned national treasure.

>Sovereign Citizens
I prefer outlaw. Laws are for faggots.
Seriously. Who even buys a gun the normal way anyway? Being a registered gun owner means you're asking for it.

Hr 38 is the good bill (national ccw) Hr4477 is the bill there trying to sneak in
>Hr4477 is bad

Imprison legislators that don't read legislation that they pass.

>The supreme court ALREADY ruled you don't need it to travel in an automobile but no one fights it.
I am just learning this right now.

The whole NICS system is fucked. In California I've heard of people being denied a gun for past misdemeanors that they were already cleared from. Then those people have to go through a whole process of writing to the DOJ to explain their situation and waiting for it to get sorted out.

After a thorough reexamination of all relevant facts and information, we've reached the conclusion that the current president is no longer a nigger.

Why do you ask?

>edit
>append
it's almost like we have words for things

force and a monopoly are 2 different things.
its like saying oh we have to have a MOB after making up the prohibition and making the mobs you where running are ARE anyway

so what you say isnt true and you proved nothing mother fucker

>I've heard of people being denied a gun
Just buy one illegally FFS. Why would you willingly put yourself onto a government list?