Memes aside boys do any of you actually deny the holocaust?

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Completely deny is stupid. There's a lot of room for debate about specific though.

The number seems a bit exaggerated, probably by the russians

Do I deny that there was an order given by Hitler to exterminate the jews by the use of homicidal gas chambers? Yes.

There is a ton of other documentation tho that suggests gas chambers were indeed used

>Jean-Claude Pressac (1944 — 2003) — a French pharmacist who used to be a Holocaust denier, who in 1979 undertook a forensic examination of the Auschwitz gas chambers. The result? He was shocked by the overwhelming evidence. In 1989 he published a book that confirmed the established view that the gas chambers were functional, killing between 631,000 and 711,000 prisoners

The Germans didn't kill jews specifically, they just killed communists. Its not their fault there is a lot of overlap.

That being said the germans did enslave the jews, many of which starved to death as the third reich collapsed and began running out of food to even feed their soldiers

Im not even a nazi either, them just the facts.

No. I don't even dispute the official death tolls. I just hate how Jews always try to make it all about them, when they were only like 25% of the victims of Nazi atrocities and 5% of the people who died in the war.

And of course how they use their much hyped victim status to deflect criticism of their economic crimes.

>The Germans didn't kill jews specifically

come on son we have Himmler admitting as such:

youtube.com/watch?v=2a_cmbi3iIg&t=

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches

>That being said the germans did enslave the jews, many of which starved to death as the third reich collapsed and began running out of food to even feed their soldiers

you don't get 5-6.5 million dead due to bad supply lines and typhus

you're starting from a premise that it happened. The honest question would have been .."do you believe the holocaust™ happened "
Since you're a subversive jew.. you insinuated automatically it did.

the correct answer is
>The holocaust didn't happen, but it should have

>my grandparents got gassed six times in the holocaust.

edgy

>The allies claimed the camps were empty
>later Russia declares the concentration camps had ovens and gas chambers

>cannot forget the allies destroying food supply convoys
>Hans ver's ze food?
>jews starve to death

i'm pretty confident the gas was used to decontaminate the jews, not fucking poison them to death
i'm also pretty confident, that the Russian gubmints wanted to use more reasons to justify to hunt/kill/torture Nazi's and Germans, by placing Ovens and gas chambers + piled up bodies

>21 million + Russian killed in ww2
>21 million + Chinese killed in ww2
>6 million jews killed in ww2
>yet the jews outweighs everyone?

Remember folks, the winner rights the story, not the losers

It happened, but that 6 million number was pulled out of their hats. The real meme is showing how the real value of historic accuracy gets smeared in propaganda.

Yes of course. Germany lacked manpower and oil, the numbers don't add up and the "confirmer" side cannot even keep their own figures straight. Also the theory of a nation wide game of "chinese whispers", e.g. no paper trail, makes the whole thing ridiculous.

there was an organized pogram/persecution against those of jewish persuasion. there was an official call for voluntary deportation that alot of the semites followed. those that refused deportation were segregated into ghettoes afterwhich they were rounded up and transferred to work camps. after which six million of the workers were systematically and brutally murdered by way of masturbation machines, pedal actuated head bashers, electric floors, holo coasters, and shower rooms of death. then their remains were turned into bars of soap, lampshades, and mattress stuffing.

5-6.5 million jews were missing from Europe after WW2, where did they go?

>HITLER DINDU NUFFIN

America and israel.

Any census data to show such a mass migration of people?

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considering the outcome of the war and the west (civilization). I know where I stand should I ever be forced to decide whether to plan their safe passage to palestine or doing what history will claim I did anyway.
:) careful what you meme holocaust shills

sorry - hitler did burn some guy alive at the stake. there was a witness.

I don't deny the holocaust, but I think it was likely exaggerated in death toll, and in treatment. When I say treatment, I mean that when our forces had finally encountered the camps obviously they would be neglected, starved, etc, because in that kind of war those camps would not be a high priority to fund, especially as the war was being lost less ability to supply the camps.
Every side did terrible things, Soviets killed countless in gulags, persecution, and just because of inept policy; they even had their own genocide, the Holodomor. But Communism is not entirely discredited because of that genocide, though National Socialism is. Even if ignoring the Soviets, our leaders have crimes too. Churchill let two million Bengalis die, casualties of scorched earth policies in order to make it unfeasible for the Japanese to invade Burma.

>He fell for shitposting on Sup Forums as political doctrine

hahahahahahahaha oh wow

That is the point user, a lot of people died, yes other dissapeared and I dont even want to start where these people disappeared or for what reason...that is a whole different topic. (pic related, not even joking)

Never supported by academia

>Every side did terrible things

As far as I know no other country had something like an einsatzgruppen for example or death camps

he's not saying they weren't used. Just that Hitler didn't take any part in them. In reality no one knows how much Hitler contributed to the Holocaust. It could have been his entire plan, or carried out entirely by his subordinates. The common idea is Hitler hinted at what he wanted without saying exactly what. This is what even most universities believe. Although, really no one knows Hitlers role truly.

Not muh 6 gorrillion

>he thinks I've never known jews, their lies and hate.

I find it hard to believe the entire high command around Hitler knew about everything like the chambers except Hitler himself. Tons of documentation showing High Command complicity

I don't.

Kikery aside, the memeing of it is disturbing.

I don’t deny Jews were put into camps, but there were no “death camps.” No gas chambers, no mass cremations.
So yes, no holohoax.

Nobody ever claimed 6 million jews were gassed, at least not in academia

If your life sucks it's not the Jews who is causing it

I think it was exaggerated a bit and a lot of the people who died did so of typhoid outbreaks. What occurred is still monstrous.

my life is amazing you subversive rat jew.
>I mention jews are filthy lying rats.. jew op then goes into diversion psycho analysis mode
don't @ me you fucking rat

not deny but I think it was exaggerated

however everything in my first post at one time was supported by academia. canteen clerks were sentenced to death over this.

>my life is amazing you subversive rat jew.

Don't get so defensive lil nigga, yea dude I'm sure everything is firing on all cylinders. You sound like a pleasant human being

Post evidence of an order signed by Hitler authorizing the gassing of kikes please

Ill wait.

>however everything in my first post at one time was supported by academia

Source?

Ashkenazi jews killed jews then blamed the Nazis and formed the Bilderberg group which later formed the European union. Ashkenazi jews want the genocide of Europeans hence mass Islamic immigration. hitler killed some Ashkenazi jews yes, but this is exactly the reason why. they were doing then what they're doing right now. Ashkenazi jews will always be globalist subhumans.

This is confirmation at its worst. There's tons of evidence of the high commands complicity in the Holocaust. Take for example:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posen_speeches

or

>In the summer of 1941, with preparations underway for invading Russia, large-scale mass murder initiatives - already practiced domestically upon the mentally ill and deformed (see Aktion-T4, the euthanasia program) - were broadly enacted against Jews. Heydrich, acting on Hitler's orders, directed the Einsatzgruppen to implement the "special tasks" of annihilation in the Soviet Union of Jews and Soviet commissars.[4] On July 31, Heydrich received orders from Goering to prepare plans "for the implementation of the aspired final solution of the Jewish question" in all German-occupied areas, which is the shown document above.[5] Eichmann, while awaiting trial in Israel in 1960, related that Heydrich had told him in August 1941 that "the Führer has ordered the physical extermination of the Jews."[6] Rudolf Hoess, the Commandant of Auschwitz, wrote in 1946 that "In the summer of 1941... Himmler said to me, 'The Führer has ordered the Final Solution to the Jewish Question... I have chosen the Auschwitz camp for this purpose.

source is my fucking education. i was in the 5th grade in 1975 and we were taught about jew soap and lampshades. the other instances can be found in any library --- or can can just sit on Sup Forums for 15 minutes and click refresh.

Day 56 of no fap

The fact that you even made a thread about it shows that these are all new concepts to you. Can you at least try to blend in before systematically destroying everything that made this board great? The last thousand redditfugees that came here posted the same brainwash shit you're posting to no avail, most eventually seeing the light. What makes you think you're so special and different? You aren't saying anything new, you're parroting back the same shit that ALL normies have been taught since they could read. What makes you think you're gonna break through to us?

>posts picture of some people being shot during the largest war in human history
>"do you believe me now?"

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>wikijew
>evidence of an order signed by hitler

Not even close and laffen

>the Führer has ordered the final solution

Show me the order m8

I was never taught that growing up in none of my classes related to the Holocaust. I highly doubt western academia supports these claims, do you have a source outside of Jpgs you found on Sup Forums?

The entire thing reeks of lies and those who defend it will talk of le six grillion and as soon as you mention how the number is exaggerated they'll drop the meme and try to argue with you tooth and nail over the details. Needless to say I'm very doubtful and suspicious of the entire ordeal but I have not draw a deceive conclusion whether or not the Nazis did it in a massive organized fashion or whether it was just certain members of the high command taking an opportunity to get revenge on the kikes or communists.

>anecdotal evidence presented by a single witness
irrefutable

they were not missing, official red cross statistics were changed decades later.

>The fact that you even made a thread about it shows that these are all new concepts to you

I used to be an edgy denier like you fags until I did even the littlest bit of research. And I've been on this site for years faggot I'm just getting sick of 14 year olds who just got their first redpill on Sup Forums acting like their woke

Hi CNN

Yeah Nazi officials and Hitler actively spoke out against heebs and routinely demanded their extermination in public speeches and in documents. But they never actually wanted it, and they most definitely never did it!
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>still being a holocauster

It was pic related or the smuggest mug I could find.

6 million is a big number, do the math. if the red fucking army were advancing, would you empty your rare ammo into helpless jews or fierce bolsheviks?

Yea dude killing civilians is totally part and parcel with war right? lmao

If there were jews in the red army or partisans, why not count those as holocaust victims hmmm..?

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newfag((shill)) detected
yes.

HOLOcaust HOLOgram
Pulled the wool right over your eyes

Except there werent that many dead. Check out the census before/after WWII.

>Show me the order m8

Your confirmation bias is too strong m8. I can say the same about the Holodomar. There's no official order signed by Stalin but I'm sure you don't deny that genocide right? idk man I think you are ignoring a shit ton of other compelling evidence if you just fixate on one thing

What’s that?

>woke
You stick out like a sore thumb, just stop already for the love of christ. We have these threads for every redditfugee going through the "side effects" of the redpill, it's getting old. Go look at the past million holocaust threads if you want to see what people on Sup Forums think.

>official red cross statistics were changed decades later.

source?

as far as I know the official census data says:

>According to censuses, there were about six million more Jews in Europe in early 1942 (as the Holocaust began) than there were at the German surrender in 1945. The Wannsee Protocol from 1942 said that there were 11 million Jews in Europe, of which roughly 6 million were living in German-controlled territories (as the Third Reich was at its peak by 1942).[58] Where did they go?

I legit don't give a fuck nor see why people even talk about it.
At fucking all in terms of practicality.
Nazism is wrong ethnocentrism is good is the way to go and all I care for, bringing in nazism because you like the fucking flag is throwing a piece of wood in your wheel. No point in trying to change what the normal person has been indoctrinated to since the age of 4.
The normal person IS retarded and HATES to feel like his vision of the world is flawed.
It's mostly larps or deep end morons.

You're mixing up your shit tier Holocaust denial memes

It didn't happen but I wish it did

>This belongs in >
you can talk to them about shape shifting lizards whilst you're at it fucking loon

>Never happened
>Nothing wrong

JIDF GTFO

Let's deny the Nanking massacre too while we're at it
Yenno, despite all the documented footage

I don't know if you noticed but the Nazis weren't exactly rational. Look at operation Barbarossa for instance

Sure refer to

cry more faggot

>cant produce a primary source proving Hitler ordered the gassing of kikes
>wants to be taken seriously

o i am laffen, are you trying? If he ordered the final solution, m8, show me the document.

>holodomor
>evidence

Noice try m80

People care because it shows that identitarian movements are shamed by the Jews. I'd agree on that especially since its exaggerated. There are a lot of lies that go into it and even if its not flat out false it shows that (((they're))) end intention is to keep everyone away from nationalism by lying.

The japs killed over 10 million Chinese without even trying but no one denies that shit

I'm drawing a parallel
Also Japan formally denies it ever happened

the soap was refuted by the 90s.

there weren't even that many jews in Europe at the time
unless you want to count their grandchildren who got masturbated to death before conception

>The Chinese dressed up as imperial Japan soldiers, then proceeded to commit the act
>where was the Chinese army to defend Nanking? surprisingly absent
>dare i say conspiracy?

Havent fapped this hard in a while DESU thanks for the vids

>there weren't even that many jews in Europe at the time

source?

Just admit that you're a typical egalitarian, alt light, jew-loving faggot that started browsing Sup Forums without really knowing what it is, so now you are begging us to hold your hand as you struggle with the fact that our "unthinkable" ideas are somehow starting to make sense to you no matter how much you refuse to believe it.

i did it publicly and got a 1 year sentance

here u go m8:

>This document is presented as evidence of the complicity and approval of Adolf Hitler ("Meldungen an den Führer" means report for the Führer), regarding the murders that took place during the Holocaust. It tallies the Nazis' death toll exacted on armed partisans, as well as their arrest of non-Jewish and execution of both non-Jewish and Jewish partisan accomplices in Eastern Europe between September 1st to December 1st, 1942 in Southern Russia, Ukraine and Bialystok.

The tally? 363,211 Jews executed in autumn 1942.

Oh look another pathetic thread shitting up the board
Wow what an awesome post! Thank god I learned this today (fag)
Leave and never come back
Take your gay, ignorant reddit spacing and memeflag and leave, never to return
WOW CHECKED. Also kys you fucking teenager
Checked. Thank god you showed up to reply to this obvious slide thread. You can take this newfound knowledge with you back to Facebook now and shock everyone.

Fact is, there were not 6mill Jews in Europe. Period.

Here is the thing
Irrelevant to my cause.
Possibly harmful to my cause.
That's it.
Are you slow? Do you even understand how stupid humans are? How telling the truth never rewards anyone? How a human will see a flaw, as opposed to a good convenience?
Fuck off.
Fuck off.

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Yes I do

>Pressac
His work has already been refuted by revisionists. His work is far from the final answer to the question as to whether a genocide took place. There are many other questions to be answered for, and many of those questions are answered by believers with blatantly off-the-cuff bullshit that they just make up.

If you ask a believer why the death tolls have always fallen lower and lower, and basically never increased, they'll fall silent. Believers also will not consider the fact that accusations of genocide was definitely used as wartime propaganda weapon against the Germans, that whatever happened (if anything genocidal happened at all) was immensely exaggerated in order to dehumanize the Germans so our grandparents could feel good about killing them. Believers offer absolutely no explanation for why the death toll has varied so greatly over time while they claim it is the best documented case of genocide in human history.

Take a look at the picture I posted. How can there be such a massive discrepancy in the numbers of one camp? I have an answer that explains the discrepancy in these numbers; LIES. People just fucking making shit up, assuming people died there when they actually didn't, relying on soviet intel. Right from the start the story was corrupted by a malicious intent to deceive. I'm not saying German soldiers never committed war-crimes, but whatever they might have been, they'll always be overshadowed by this fictional story about hitlur killin all duh 6 trillion jews in gas chammers

It's the work of revisionists that keep the numbers falling all around, not the work of any establishment academic, but people doing real investigation and asking extremely relevant questions. Academics are happy to let the number sit as high as it possibly can be, it's real people who actually care about the truth of what happened there who have been making the official numbers fall because academics can't argue with them. I trust the revisionists.

lmao I've here for years faggot it's pussies like you that have ruined this board and throw a shit fit when someone says something you disagree with.

The Holocaust never happened, but I wished it happened again.

It's exaggerated, but absolutely all favorable war propaganda is exaggerated when you're on the winning side anyway so whatever

And IF they bring up nazism ethnocentrism against the jews.
THEN you speak about the jews and the nazis.
Until then fuck off.
You retards are a blight.

Nah m8:

>In 1933, approximately 9.5 million Jews lived in Europe, comprising 1.7% of the total European population. This number represented more than 60 percent of the world's Jewish population at that time, estimated at 15.3 million.

The Holohoax has already been debunked by Ernst Zundel during the famous Canadian Holohoax Trials.
At the end the Canadian (((Courts))) got utterly REKT and buttblasted that they decided to end the case due to Zundel's claims (facts) being a threat to mainstream history.
He proved that the Holohoax was a fucking lie.
He went back to Germany were he was illegaly detained and sent to prison where he spent 10 fucking years for.
Fuck off with your holohoax bullshit fucking kike.

as far as sources go --- there is this thing on the web called "google". it's what is known as a "search engine". if you type in any of the ways that the jews were holocausted from my first post on this thread i'm sure you will be linked to the original source(es) of the matter. you lazy faggot.

>There's tons of evidence of the high commands complicity in the Holocaust.
There literally isn't you filthy kike. Even a lot historians that believe the holocaust don't even think Hitler issued any order to exterminate the joos.

>proceeds to do the same exact thing with ad hominem

soy vey soy beanboy

there is evidence for the Red Terror and Holodomor you faggot cuck