German foreign affairs minister: USA is no longer a global empire, we need Russia now

In a keynote speech, the Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel (SPD) demanded a turnaround in German foreign policy, towards more independence from the USA, and more European independence. Gabriel said in a keynote address at the Berlin Foreign Policy Forum of the Körber Foundation, a high-level meeting of foreign policy and foreign policy experts in Berlin, that the US is no longer a reliable guarantor of the world order.

The United States under Donald Trump saw Germany not only as a partner, but also as a "competitor, sometimes even as an economic opponent". The attitude of the current American government towards Europe is "very distant". It is therefore necessary for Europe to define and pursue its own interests. "This includes finding a new relationship with the US." Gabriel went on to say: "There is no longer any space on the sidelines of foreign policy, either for us Germans or for Europe."

The foreign minister identified two main points in which the interests of Europe and the interests of the United States are currently falling apart in particular: First, the sanctions against Russia passed by the US, which could have consequences for German and European companies, which are in favor of Russian Pipeline projects, including the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, due to be built by 2019. "That endangers our own economic interests," said Gabriel.

Second point of conflict between the USA and Germany is recognizing Jerusalem as the Israel's capital and putting sanctions on Iran.

Gabriel emphasized that Europe had to pursue an independent Russia policy, which was designed for dialogue and integration. Deterioration of European-Russian relations is a fault of the USA and its warmongering policy.

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>German foreign affairs minister: USA is no longer a global empire

who cares what Germans say about the USA?

Fuck the world order lol

the EU was always a German project to push the USA out of the region

I don't like fucking Europe to be a fucking cuck of the USA, but God forgive us if the alternative is to become a fucking communist whore.

Why not trying to regain some fucking independence and dignity for once?

Jesus Christ how can I hat the EU that much.

burgerland

Good luck Poland

I’m tired of being the worlds babbysitter anyways

THIS USA MUST SHOW GERMANY ITS PLACE

>SPD
stopped reading there

Also I thought that Mutti was the new leader of the free world?

You will change your mind when dollar stops being the main reserve currency and there will be no money for food stamps for niggers and spics, and they will make a revolution xDD

>stopped reading there

AfD and CDU have similar views.

makes me smile :-)
good luck poland!

>Europe needs (((Russia brand Communism)))

Check his nose and his dick.

>be an usa protectorate
>decler usa isn't an empire

absolute state of krauts

Jewish whores

Now watch as the USA attempts to force Poland and everything around them to leave the EU and form some edgelord buffer alliance to separate Russia from Europe

oh fuck wait they already do that

Thanks guys! xD

Are you "great" yet, goyim?

>German-Russia Relations
>Poland

What can possibly go wrong

>oh fuck wait they already do that

Our region is too weak to oppose such huge powers like Germany and Russia. Poland already feels huge pressure on itself, so far it is only Russians bullying us for demolishing their Red Army statues and rewriting history of WW2 to present themselves as "liberators" of Poland to whom we should be grateful and maybe even pay them. They also pressure us militarily to persuade the USA that Russia has enough of power projection to remove NATO from the region - so far it is only "exercises" like Zapad 2017 and installing Iskanders in Kaliningrad but it can turn into a hot activity anytime.

>Deterioration of European-Russian relations is a fault of the USA and its warmongering policy.
Russia has but one policy: rebuilding the empire, with money or with war.
The Euro policy can be either containment or appeasement.
We are now in ca. 1928, and we are waiting for the next Great Crash of 1929.
Germany builds its block, Russia builds its block.

>The United States under Donald Trump saw Germany not only as a partner, but also as a "competitor, sometimes even as an economic opponent".
Lol king nigger Obama saw it that way and destabilized the EU relationship with Russia (CIA in Ukraine in particular) destabilized the middle east (side benefit of creating the refugee crisis hamstringing the EU with over 100++ billion in worthless trash per hear) And single handedly created the terrorist group that has killed 500+ citizens

>Second point of conflict between the USA and Germany is recognizing Jerusalem as the Israel's capital and putting sanctions on Iran.

Wait, so Germany is against that? Ut oh.

wtf, the Soviet Union fell a long time ago. Russians hate communism. They've seen the light.

Russia only wants to survive economically and it knows very well that its trade with China is 2x smaller than trade of little Poland with Germany, and that over 80% of trade of Russia is trade with Europe. It is a fight for survival for them. If they are cut from Europe, they are dead, and China will consume what is rest of them. The main reason for the system to collapse though is a rapid growth of China. The Silk Road project is one of main reasons for the reset of the current order imo.

>russia is more reliable
It really sucks that our politicans are so incompetent. Also we need to care for ourself and not be cared for by imaginary international orders. They all can't comprehend, if you don't look after yourself nobody is going to do so.

This is true and you're at a risk of getting invaded by Russia as well but that doesn't mean that you should turn hostile towards the EU and form an alliance against us, this is EXACTLY what the USA wants and has been doing in the past with Ukraine. Do you want to become the next Ukraine which gets invaded anyway because you're neither friendly with the EU nor Russia? This is what they did - they promised protection to Ukraine and even couped them, and in the end they got invaded regardless of that and the USA just fucked off like nothing happened and like they owe nothing to Ukraine. What's more is that Ukraine will probably either get invaded again or be integrated in some new Soviet-like federation once their economy crashes completely, which it will. This is what they got as a payback for being America's whores, same shit with Georgia or any other country that decides to isolate themselves from their neighbors and rely on the US "help"

>force
lel, have fun living in alternate reality

>implying Russia would side with them over the US

lol, the best they can expect is a few dollars knocked off the oil they purchase from Russia. Jewrope's inevitable fall is gonna be so satisfying. I just hope it happens in my lifetime so I can see anglos rebuild.

>This is true and you're at a risk of getting invaded by Russia as well but that doesn't mean that you should turn hostile towards the EU

If Russia "invades" Poland, it will happen in a silent agreement with the EU, only to remove Americans from our country. Germany and Russia don't need Poland being a pile of rubble.

Russia's trade with the USA is microscopic, and nothing indicates that anything changes in this matter. USA doesn't need Russian oil, gas and other natural resources after all. Besides, the only thing Russia wants from the USA is getting out of the Central-Eastern Europe, and it wouldn't help the USA in anything, because USA doesn't have any kind of control mechanism over Russia. USA could make its part of the deal, but Russia could refuse to do it, "because fuck you" and USA could do nothing about it

Germans are just scared of Trump, all world leaders expected Clinton to win and start WW3, but it didnt happen.

yes goy it's your own decision to pull V4/3 seas/Intermarium it's totally not american D&C it's just a lucky coincidence that the 3 exist at the same time and are right on the Russian border hehehe

>If Russia "invades" Poland, it will happen in a silent agreement with the EU
Not if you damage your relations with it and exit before that

>Implying that Germany ever has and ever will become a natural guarantor of some sort of Pax Germania.
>Implying that whenever Germany becomes strong it becomes anything other than a threat to the current world order and world peace.
>A united Europe would threaten Anglo supremacy and Russia therefore, we being so perfidious, a new alliance would be formed between the two. Europe would be squeezed on both sides and squeezed until it splits.
>Implying differing nations, with widely diverging cultures, languages and long histories of warring and barely suppressed grudges will ever form a stable, effective and united front.

Germans are amateurs at the game.

Noted.

Don't worry Poland, we're breaking away from Europe again and siding with the US again (PM will be replaced again), we've got your back again.

>Germany trying to increase their military power and buddying up to russia
welp here we go again

its almost like apart from corrupt politicians people in v4 dont like european homopedomudshit 4th reich values much

That Three Seas (((initiative))).
That looks like the Intermarium.
(Stylised version)

>Second point of conflict between the USA and Germany is recognizing Jerusalem as the Israel's capital and putting sanctions on Iran.
How long has it been since I felt proud of my government... What a happy day. There is hope for europe yet!

A good old fashioned war with Germany refreshes our prosperity and cuts back the immigrant numbers significantly. Germany is a necessary sacrifice.

finally.... europe needs frienship with russia.

it is usual cordon sanitaire, nothing new
tldr germany is going to get btfo in near future, again

Tldr you stupid poor pole

Polands nightmare. kek.

The Jerusalem stuff really messed with their convictions, doesn't it?

how would russia invade ukraine if they were friendly with europe?

Not only similar, the AFD is basically what the CDU was in the 90s. Minus Höcke that madman would have never made it in the CDU.

>feels proud of government that doesnt like recognizing jerusalem as israeli capital because it offends mudshits
>instantly forgets that it is the same establishment that sent 80+yo granny to jail, because she stated truth
only hope for europe is that this time gercucks will be completely eliminated

read my post again you illiterate slavnigger

Lol the delusion.

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You ain't going anywhere, Pakistania.

Germany is going to get btfo for a third time. There wouldnt be a problem if they didnt hunger for muslim dick

my bad if it was sarcasm, but you really have to understand, that is really hard to differentiate it these days, especially when talking to germans, swedes, leafs and other people that are being brainwashed by their own goverments for last 50+ years

And here we go again

top kek

who told you what? i love communism. just the western people cant into communism. we need to kill all westerns and build a new world. communism is the bright future for the hymanity. the new era.

you were never a babysitter. You were always the rapist looking through the house windows.

If dollar stops being a global reserve currency, this stat won't be valid anymore

Thing is, it is and always has been, a waste of our time and blood.

Our priorities should be: Containing China and reducing African, Indian and Muslim population growth. Instead we have to worry about Germany being weird again and this (((world order))) they're enthralled by.

ahahaha, "The next 100 years" is so fucking accurate it's almost scary. LONG Stratfor.

holy fucking hell are you seriously incapable of understanding what I wrote?

>How long has it been since I felt proud of my government...
This implies that it has been a relatively long time since I last felt proud about my country, but now that I read the OP, I once again am.
You literally only stopped living on your brothers couch 25 years ago. Why are you even posting in a geopolitics thread?

this is probably what jews think

there is one stat that will still matter, us military, the sooner the war starts, the better for us

I swear not very long ago German politicians went on rants about >muh evil Russia. They are just butthurt that the relationship with the US (deservedly) deterioated and are now scared they may have lost their most powerful ally.

>world Jewry who controls the west is having ingroup fighting for domination/splintered by left right politics dominated both by Jewish Zionist interests, all willing to undermine the west via cultural marxism at the same time.

Ok? and? not much to say about it.

>Be Burger colony
>Be Vodka colony
Fuck choosing any
those Politcians can fuck off to those Countries traiterous fuckers

Just crash the EU

so I was right, in both things

Don't worry about China, they're not a concern. China will take care of itself for us. Japan will soon be the dominant force in that region.

As much as we want to massacre the migrants, we can't, the population is too large to allow this to happen.

Only war will fix our problems, but it needs to happen fast. This will allow for a reshuffle of wealth and power. The weak will die fast.

What else will you use for a global reserve currency? The Euro is on the verge of collapse. The Chinese manipulate their currency like no other nation... not enough gold in the world... not enough silver....

Looks like you don't have any real options eurofags.

good for poland. US will shift its focus onto poland. conviniently located between Germany and Russia as a base for punitive expeditions into both empires of evil. LONG poland, SHORT germany.

>The Euro is on the verge of collapse. The Chinese manipulate their currency like no other nation... not enough gold in the world... not enough silver....

I am glad that you are so optimistic about development of the situation. Stress kills.

No shit, US now literally strong arms entire Europe into buying their gas that's way more expensive with the only argument being put forward is "muh evil Russia".

>force
lol, implying Poland wouldn't do it voluntarily. the US is a natural ally to Poland. geopolitics don't change so G•rmany and R•ssia will always be a threat to Poland. the USA having an interest in keeping both shitholes in check will strengthen its commitment to Poland. we'll see a new golden age for Poland and eternal winter for the Caliphate and Russia.
LONG Poland, SHORT Germany.

You are kind of evilish, Putin isn't exactly a friend of the west.

Maybe because "the west" is completely controlled by the US and does what they've told to every single time?

>the USA having an interest in keeping both shitholes in check will strengthen its commitment to Poland
>we'll see a new golden age for Poland and eternal winter for the Caliphate and Russia

I absolutely agree with this, just like what happened the last time you got guaranteed and an entire world war was fought for that guarantee and your """""liberation""""" and just like what happened when the USA extended its arm to Ukraine.

Pic related, beautiful Ukraine blossoming from the massive US anti-Russia aid

aw man what the hell germany? wh-what the hell man?

hahaha

You were controlled by the US during the Yeltsin years and it wasn't much better.

Poland is doing it voluntarily for a long time already. Because Germans and Russians are that bad neighbours and "european" allies proved to be quite shitty in past.

hans-ahmed siding with mudshits. wew, I can't hold all those surprises.

>Germany is a necessary sacrifice.
hear hear

breaking up American hegemony is a good thing. this is just another break in globalism it seems. they become independent from US, then more countries become independent from Germany, etc. it's one step closer to the day of the rope.

what for would Europe need a friendship with a HIV ridden corrupt 3rd world shithole?

You your flag, kike. Muslims that stay the fuck away from europe are acceptable. Jews and invaders arent.

>Ukraine blossoming from the massive US anti-Russia aid
Same with Georgia. Useful idiots are immediately discarded after they outlived their usefulness.

Bitcoin?

>Brunei
>tfw a country you never even heard of until seeing it in an infographic has a higher gdp than you

tfw Russia stands for more of American values than America does...

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Why do you care how rich we are, you don't have to live here. That's not what partners are for.
It also happens to be the second strongest military in the world, you meme flag idiot. Its a perfect counterbalance to US bullying western countries into wars for Israel and creating more migrants.

Good, anything is better than the (((USA)))

you can argue the details but fact is that millions of G•rmans died and were displaced. same for R•ssians. from a game theory perspective WWII was very successful for Poland. we even got rid of our jews, cigans and retards. and the 50 years behind the iron curtain ironically saved us from becoming muslim loving cuckwhores.
Poland is the Christ of nations. Sacrifice is in our blood. Something you lesser subhuman races won't ever understand.

"Most Russians prefer return of soviet union and socialism."
telesurtv.net/english/news/Poll-Most-Russians-Prefer-Return-of-Soviet-Union-and-Socialism-20160420-0051.html

Brunei essentially is a private island. Citizens pay no taxes. Everything essentially belongs to the Sultan. Picrelated is Brunei's exports

Turns out that shiny medal it's better than no recognizing at all.

>Be a colony of auskrauts themselves colony of proper krauts
>Criticise krauts
The absolute state of Slavshits.

nobody really takes Germans serious though. Even countries like France and UK have more global/military power. Germans nowadays are known for just sitting everything out on the global stage.