Is there a way to combine the two?

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no. because poor people will always be too greedy to maintain the machine properly. And if all the workers were rich, nobody would want to maintain the machine because they were rich.

National socialism

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socialism is a bait for communism

Nobody stops a group of workers in a capitalistic society to open up a fabric and share, such fabrics exist in Spain and work fairly well

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Clerical Fascism

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State sponsored capitalism which really can be consider fascism. Where private enterprise and the state are indistinguishable. What we have now in america is just crony capitalism which mean lower quality of life and lower productivity.

The big difference between socialism and communism is property. Communism property is restricted and collectivized by the sate. Socialism private property is still absolute but state provides services for its people.

Communism can't work unless you have a community that for the most part shares the same values, goals and overall strata. The only "real" communism that works in the world is the Amish. But they only succeed because they live by a stringent code with strong family bonds and those who don't comply are banished out.

sure, maybe if the picture depicted the cigar-smoking man handing over paychecks for competitively-priced wages commensurate with the value they are able to produce. we could label the picture "Actual Capitalism"

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Workers elect their bosses.
So it doesn't matter if said bosses are unequal slave drivers. It's what they chose.

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there is nothing stopping workers from owning the business collectively in this country

No but as technology advances at a rapid rate, it will usher in a age of post scarcity. Capitalism is the best engine to that age due to the greed of humanity for wanting things cheaper. Automation and faster production will lead to the creation of matter conversion. Though that might be centuries away.

Socialism is socialism
You'd get a bullet just as fat as a Bolshevik
totalitarian faggot

ay now.

What is wrong with private profit?

you know nothing, he is talking about the socialist aspect of the third position view of National Socialism; this system implies there will be no private banks grabbling and no welfare leaching. This the word "socialist" is literally a social term, not an economical term.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative

Workers can own the means of production in capitalism. In fact, ironically enough, capitalism is the system that even allowed to give rise to worker cooperatives since such endeavors are not owned by workers in socialism, but rather by the state.

A more accurate version of OPs caricature would be:
>capitalism - two workers "chained" to make shit while the capitalist takes the profit
>socialism - two starving workers "chained" to make shit while the party technocrat takes the profit "in the name of the people"

At least in capitalism, the workers get to quit if they've had enough whereas in socialism you can't quit you deal with it or get gulag'd.

>You'd get a bullet
If anybody you are the one who is going to get the bullet.

yes saging this entire thread

The best system for a society is the natural order

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add one of the workers to the transition part to make it more realistic

Imagine waking at 4 in the morning to breathe poisonous fumes in factory so that some communist swine can sit on his ass with soyafrappucino and write manifestos.

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Corporatism?

Holy trips of truth

>it wasnt real socialim

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No, communism fails when two people exchange goods voluntarily.

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These graphics are always so retarded. It's always some variation of stick figures, bags of money and guns for some fucking reason.

yes, the elites are going to. They're going to call it the new world order.

The hardest part about /Threading your own post is telling your dad you are gay

What is capitalism with regulations?

Not on the same planet.

Sounds like you want a solution to your conundrum, some might call it a final solution.

like China?

It's called humanitarianism and pragmatism.

Nice meme

>Workers elect their bosses.
Not in most companies. It'd be great if they actually did though.
And what about the many, many people who did bankrupt their company but got bailed out? There's never been a case of that not happening in the modern age.

The key is to outlaw private banking sector. Private ownership of enterprises in itself is not harmful, but contrary, it is beneficial. The problem comes from interest bearing loans. Private banking sector is a cancer of society which needs to be cut off.

NSDAP Germany outlawed income from sources which were not from work (either physical or mental) and surged from the poorest nation in Europe to the richest. Think about it.

>gold and shit
>"let's mix them and see what happens!" the thread
so worthless. no bump or (you).

>Workers elect their bosses.

>take out tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars and assume all the risk
>get elected out of ownership
>machines belong to workers now
>still in debt

Yeah that's how you drive business.

>Is there any way to combine [lack of state intervention] and [total state intervention]?
No, you fucking idiot. Either the government intervenes or it doesn't. Do you want to be free or do you want to be equal?

Holy shit Americans are stupid. Socialism IS what people commonly call "Communism". There's a reason why "Communist Russia" called itself the USSR and not the UCSR: Communism is the end goal: a stateless society where magically everyone is nice and altruistic. Socialism is the "dictatorship of the Proletariat" middle stage that comes before the end goal that is communism. This is why communism doesn't work, and why socialism is so brutal: because communism is a denial of the human nature, and socialism is all about trying to make communism work (ie. forcing a square into a round peg, through forced labor and "re-education" if needed).

you're clearly not well versed in NatSoc economic policy

Ignorant stormfag fucks like you will get the bullet. We dont need shitheads in a new third position world.