ITT We fix Naruto

Come one, Come all.


I'll start off with the obvious one:

>Stop Sharingan power creep at "instant genjustu on eye contact"

>Use all the established powers and explore the possibilities a lot more.

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>take out the filler
>use a power you worked super hard for more than once

Fuck off Narutard spammer.

What if Naruto wasn't about Naruto's story but about the shinobi world, conflicts between nations and all that shit. That'd be cool.

>Focus on the Uzumaki and maybe the hyuuga
>Have more fights for sakura
>Naruto knows one-handed rasengan
>More missions with other teams
>Haku and Zabuza live in kiri
>Don't make jiraiya naruto's godfather
>Kakshi actually teaches sfuff
>Bring back handsigns
>Learns more about the other lands and villages
>Get rid of kaguya
>No reincarnation bullshit
>No war arc
>Focus on other jinchuuriki
>Fox chakra is absolutely last resort

Not that you are wrong, but this is more about fixing Naruto, which implies maintaining its' core tone.

What you are describing wouldn't be Naruto anymore.

>why not turn it into romance of the three kingdoms.

We make it more like air gear.

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>>take out the filler
Of course, of course.

>>use a power you worked super hard for more than once

Falls in the general category of "use and explore what you alrady established rather than expand the power pool". Which would also help give more meaning to the division between powerfull ninja and weak ones, because it would be more of a "I'm better because of experience and I know how to use stuff and you don't" rather than muh special kekkei bullshit

>>Focus on the Uzumaki and maybe the hyuuga

In what way? I don't think the Uzumaki were all that interesting. The Hyuugas kind of were. Also exploring more of the Uzumaki's might snowball into the reincarnation/muh special snowflake syndrome which I think you and I are both against.

>>Have more fights for sakura

How about either remove her or change her character completely?

>>Naruto knows one-handed rasengan

Sure.

>>More missions with other teams

Could get boring unless they also advance plot or character arcs, otherwise they're just filler. Unless you mean something specific

>>Haku and Zabuza live in kiri

Explain the purpose.

>>Don't make jiraiya naruto's godfather

Yeah, Why wasn't Kakashi the one teaching him stuff? He even knew the rasengan as well. Come to think of it, Sakura was with Tsunade, so Kakashi literally did fuck all for the whole timeskip.

>>Kakshi actually teaches sfuff

Again.

>>Bring back handsigns

Big one for sure. I would expand this to "Really establish the rules of the ninjutsu.". How they work, their pre-requisites, toll on chakra consuption. It doesn't have to get super technical, but ground it a bit more than not at all where we end up with instant jutsus they cast endlessly until the writer decides one of them has to become tired for the fight to end.

>>Learns more about the other lands and villages

Sure.

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Fuck off underaged cancer.

Your Reddit habits are showing.

>>Get rid of kaguya

Obvious one.

>>No reincarnation bullshit

Ditto.

>>No war arc

Agree, The combat style the manga usually depicts really doesn't lend itself to large scale combat. It's just dumb.

>>Focus on other jinchuuriki

I guess I agree, they were pretty obviously rushed.

>>Fox chakra is absolutely last resort


Another big one. Making the big demon fox your friend is one of the dumbest things to happen in this dumbass manga.

I like Air Gear. But it's a totally different animal. How would you make Naruto more like it? And how would it make it better?

Nice, but no memes.

Complete with a character swapping bodies with Obama?

Pure cancer

Not underaged and never visited Reddit, although I'm cancer.

Make Kakashi the MC. Team 7 are the retarded comic-relief characters we only see once in a while in between hardcore assassination missions.

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Fuck off you cancerous Narutard spammer.

Whats wrong with genjutsu it was one of the first sharingan powers to be shown.

Suigetsu becomes master swordsman, one of the strongest characters and Mizukage.

Stop power creep, no susano as it should be exclusive to itachi only.
No yellow jinchuriki power.
Tobi is the echo of the Jubbi's mind which is possesing Obito's comatose body.

Hinata gets BTFO


>I like Air Gear.
I used to like Air Gear at the beggining when it was about having fun and sports, then it became an ass boring battle manga and the author couldnt make his mind on who he wanted the main chara to have a crush on. Waste of fucking time that incest manga was.

What exactly were trying to prove with that?

But Naruto does know one handed Rasengan...

I feel like this is the direction Naruto would've gone had it not recently ended.

That's what I said. Stop there. You already have heightened senses, can copy any jutsu, and instant game over if your oponent looks you in the eye.

Pretty fucking strong already.

>Tobi is the echo of the Jubbi's mind which is possesing Obito's comatose body.

I'd just ditch the whole Juubi thing completely. I'd also make it so all the tailed beasts are roughly equal in strength rather than increasingly strong proportional to the number of tails they have and I'd keep the "tailed beasts as village nuke for purposes of power balance between the lands" concept.

>I used to like Air Gear at the beggining when it was about having fun and sports, then it became an ass boring battle manga and the author couldnt make his mind on who he wanted the main chara to have a crush on. Waste of fucking time that incest manga was.

By the time we had a totally serious love triangle between a step-sister, playboy bunny and gay schizophrenic I just started to enjoy the dumb ride. That manga should get an award for commitment to continuously topping itself in ridiculousness. That Obama body swapping with a tennage nip girl subplot was life-changingly dumb

Make Rock Lee the protagonist. Done.

Meh. Too easy.

I would get rid of Sasuke and Sakura. Naruto would have been a lot better with just Kakashi and Naruto on team 7.

1) the charactersneeds to be more respectful.
naruto doesn't respect his elders. he is always messing with them. sasuke thinks he is better than his teachers even though he is younger than them.

2) diversify the crew
the number of white people doesn't equal the number of minorities

3) women need to be displayed more realistically.
women in naruto do not make it to the same level as the men (on average). this is unrealistic and distracts viewers as bad as when someone falls 500 stories and survives.

End the show at the pain arc. Go straight into boruto from there. Done.

This post makes me want to kill myself.

Congratulations.

That was at the end of the series, he still needed a clone in the beginning of shipudden.

Doesn't matter. Boruto has fixed it all. Resetting the characters' powers in a fully established world is the shounen holy grail.

>Sasuke is a woman
>Naruto ends up with Fem-Sasuke
>Naruto gets taught more than 3 moves and actually learns jutsus

Bumping cos u triggered some autists

Not only did you bump the thread, but you gave them (You)s. You are the greatest cancer of all, hypocrite scum [check my image lol]. First off catalog and filters so you can hide everything you hate. So either you are new fagging or falseflagging, OR love naruto but just acting tsundere like in your chinese cartoons

at least you admit it, those cunts secretly love naruto, why else would they join in on the discussion?

thats how you bait, that guy can shitpost

This. Remove fillers and maybe it'll be tolerable to watch.

If Naruto and Sasuke are going to keep being power-creeping assholes, make Sakura the hokage

1. Fix characters.
- Naruto should have a major character growth, especially in INT and WIS department. Let us watch the village idiot working hard to become a competent adult, fully capable of researching and inventing ninja arts, rational thinking, analysis, tactics, leadership. Just having retard strength isn't good enough to be a leader of the village full of supersoldiers.
- Sasuke. Holy fuck, this guy is straight outta Linkin Park AMV . Make him at least a bit sympathetic and give him some really good reasons for his actions. Remove the plot armor, stop the super special treatment.
- Make Sakura an actual character.
- Itachi. Seriously, STOP sucking his dick.
- Focus more on Kakashi's teacher role.

2. Stop the power creep. Keep the battles creative, with focus on tactics, not shitting out a bigger nuke than the opponent.
Especially make sharingan less op, don't use Hashirama's cells as a solution to everything and no plug & play powers.

3. Stop the super special snowflake Child of Prophecy crap. Stick to the hard work theme.

4. Remove aliens. Completely. As well as the ninja Jesus, demigod reincarnations and other crap. Senju vs Uchiha is good enough.

5. Remove talk no jutsu and stop making every single villain a traumatized child.

6. Write proper romantic subplots for pairings.

7. Beasts remain beasts. Any pact with the Fox should be more like the deal with a devil + some twisted kind of companionship.

Stupid but fun ideas:
- Write the greatest love story ever told and add some no homo sexual tension by making Naruto or Sasuke a grill.

- Have Shinobi Army stop Madara's plans while failing to defeat Madara himself. After finally beating the shit out of Hashirama, he would go "meh, whatever", start living in Konoha (since no one can really stop him from doing so) and teach kids ninja stuff while grumbling about MUH TIMES.
Bonus points if he'd seize hokage's seat and refuse to step down unless Naruto beats him in a fight.

>What you are describing wouldn't be Naruto anymore

It was up until Shippuden.

That he is legit autistic.

>Make him at least a bit sympathetic and give him some really good reasons for his actions.
Sasuke was the worst, but I wouldn't say that the reason for why he turned out like wasn't a good one.
His brother killed his entire family and he got mindfucked into seeing the entire process of it for like 3 years straight.
Then he finds out that his entire life was a lie and that his brother was basically forced into doing it for his protection.
Sasuke may have been the absolute worst like most Uchiha's but I can see why he became like that.

make fights actual fights and not 90% staring and flashbacks

The series explores the ramifications of using children as soldiers.

>remove chunin exam
>add team 7 actually DOING THE THING THAT'S THE PREMISE OF THE FUCKING SHOW

Amaterasu wasn't really power creep, but it should be emphasized as an ability that absolutely cannot be used very often.

>1. Fix characters.
>- Naruto should have a major character growth, especially in INT and WIS department. Let us watch the village idiot working hard to become a competent adult, fully capable of researching and inventing ninja arts, rational thinking, analysis, tactics, leadership.
It honestly seemed like Kishi was going down this path, but backed down for some reason.
>- Sasuke.
I'm actually of the opinion that Sasuke would have been fine if he never learned about Itachi's proper motivation for slaughtering his clan, and thought it was just ordered by Danzo
>- Make Sakura an actual character.
Agreed.
>- Itachi. Seriously, STOP sucking his dick.
They should have stopped right at the point where it's revealed he had to slaughter the Uchiha clan to avert a civil war and leave it at that.
>- Focus more on Kakashi's teacher role.
Agreed

>2. Stop the power creep. Keep the battles creative, with focus on tactics, not shitting out a bigger nuke than the opponent.
I don't see a way to avoid power creep.

>3. Stop the super special snowflake Child of Prophecy crap. Stick to the hard work theme.
100% agreed.

>4. Remove aliens. Completely.
I actually disagree with this point. Having the ninja magic explained by it being passed down by otherworldly beings is actually a pretty interesting concept. Kishi just went overboard.

>5. Remove talk no jutsu
Not all conflicts can be resolved with violence.
>stop making every single villain a traumatized child.
This I agree with though. Nearly all the villains were just written to be foils for Naruto and thus became redundant as fuck.

>6. Write proper romantic subplots for pairings.
No.

>7. Beasts remain beasts. Any pact with the Fox should be more like the deal with a devil + some twisted kind of companionship.
Yeah. I liked the direction they were going in the first place. Killer Bee befriending the 8 tails should have been a fucking outlier, because he's such an unusual character.

Well, I guess you're right. I really liked how Sasuke's thirst for power and jealousy over Naruto's strength made him join Orochimaru. But after his fight with Itachi, the whole thing went off the rails. With his KILL THIS, KILL THAT attitude it's safe to say that Sasuke was straight up insane.

And so was Itachi - seriously, his idea of protecting Sasuke was easily the most fucked up thing in entire manga. How the hell did he come to the conclusion that turning his brother into hatred-fueled, revenge-obsessed, power-hungry psychopath was a good idea? If I learned my brother did something like this, I'd be happy he's six feet under.

And the most ridiculous thing is that manga describes Itachi as the fucking perfect saint, makes madman Sasuke the target of everyone's affection, and portrays brothers' relationship as a touching and beautiful family love. And that's what my "good reasons" referred to - if author wanted to portray Uchiha brothers in a good light, their whole story should've been different. If the story was to stay intact, he shouldn't have pretended they dindu nuffin.

We have yet to see if that happens though. Should scale things back, at least for a while. We're already past the Chuunin Exams and the series proper hasn't even started yet.

>Have more fights for sakura

>>Focus on the Uzumaki
Good
>and maybe the hyuuga
nah
>>Have more fights for sakura
agreed
>>Naruto knows one-handed rasengan
No.
>>Haku and Zabuza live in kiri
What's the difference?
>>Don't make jiraiya naruto's godfather
Yeah
>>Kakshi actually teaches sfuff
Agreed, though he does teach some stuff
>>Bring back handsigns
They never left, Kishimoto didn't draw them 'cause it's a pain to do it every week
>>Learns more about the other lands and villages
Agreed
>>Get rid of kaguya
Yeah. But I actually think Kaguya existing is good, but instead of having her replace Madara just mention how Madara is basically doing the same she tried to do back in the day, like he's following her footsteps or something, that way she can exist which means there's lore behind Madara BUT she's not present in the story.
>>No reincarnation bullshit
That's not how it works
>>No war arc
The war is necessary, it was handled poorly but it's necessary
>>Focus on other jinchuuriki
They were all dead
>>Fox chakra is absolutely last resort
Nah

Sasuke a fucking shit.

It would have been more enjoyable if Sasuke and Naruto were forcefully paired up in the Shinobi Trials, and ended up slowly becoming friends over the course of Naruto. Then in Shippuden they are best friends for life.
(basically Tiger and Bunny)

This edge lord shit from Sasuke and all the bullshit he pulls ended up making me drop it. It was just fucking awful. And then everyone just forgives him at the drop of a hat? Nah, fuck that.

Well Uchiha's being batshit insane edgelords is canonically a family trait of them so no suprise there.
The only real jarring thing is what you said about the Itachi dicksucking.
I am just waiting for the Salad to turn bad.

i know this is just a typical shonen but holy fuck, naruto "loves" sakura, sakura "loves" sasuke, and hinata "loves" naruto for EXTREMELY shallow reasons

They're a bunch of dumb fucking kids and yet you expect me to believe their relationships continued several decades and spawned children?

>I am just waiting for the Salad to turn bad
Nah. She's Sasuke if nurudu could actually give him the D. She'll be fine.

>They're a bunch of dumb fucking kids and yet you expect me to believe their relationships continued several decades and spawned children?
You underestimate the power of hormones and humanity's imperative to procreate.

Maybe your right, maybe it is like the simpsons gene where the retardation only affects the men.

Powerlevels never go beyond the traps from the mist arc.

Sasuke is a grill

Sakura is a comic relief character that dies right after she is introduced

Hinata is bitchnata, actively fighting for narudick.

Everything is less retarded.

I'd watch it then.

There's nothing shallow about the reason for why Hinata loved Naruto.

>They're a bunch of dumb fucking kids
You're an adult at 12 in Naruto-land, much as with the pre-modern world it emulates.

Can you really call that love? That's admiration, which isn't a romantic emotion.

I'd sooner call that love than what most people "in love" have. Hinata deeply admired a pariah, warts and all, for who he was as a person, and understood him better than all but a handful of people.

-End the Uchiha plot with Itachi's death
-Do an arc to fix Sasuke's edge
-End the manga with Sasuke and Naruto working together to fight Nagato
Shit's not hard. It fits the toad sage's prophecy and Jiraiya didn't die meaninglessly.

>samefag

Fuck off Narutards

>3. Stop the super special snowflake Child of Prophecy crap. Stick to the hard work theme.
Hard work was NEVER a thing.

>Have Shinobi Army stop Madara's plans while failing to defeat Madara himself.
This would make an interesting ending.

>All this people hating on something that is popular

Naruto already ended

I know Naruto is supposed to be child friendly but

>Naruto kills one of his friends while possessed by the fox

Let him struggle with that. It would make him even more of an outcast.

Naruto becoming the hero of the village way too early, befriending the fox demon and reusing every dead main and filler character in the shinobi war were the biggest letdowns.

I almost skipped the entire shinobi war.

>more gai and lee
These two characters are two of the best imo. Both compensate their lack of talent for ninjutsu by training like crazy.

I don`t remember the names but the 3 people following Sasuke were absolutely boring. The chick was allright because she was used for showing how cold hearted sasuke became over the time.

>all these faggots wanting to turn sasuke into a girl for their gay fantasies


Fuck off gaylords. Kishi could have better removed naruto from this manga atleast it would have had a more adult/seinen atmosphere

Naruto didn't become the hero of the village too early, user.

That only happened AFTER he defeated the leader of the goddamn akatsuki, who had destroyed the village, and that was quite a bit into the series run.

You only think it's too early because the goddamn ninja war arc took up 1/3rd of the entire overarching plot despite having the least amount of stuff happen during it.

Every Uchiha girl we've seen has been more or less OK, right?

They should have had another timeskip after the Pain Arc ended to get their shit together for the war. All the characters who died during then should have stayed dead, including Kakashi.

Or okay, maybe Kakashi can come back after meeting his father in purgatory or whatever. Just have Sakumo say it's not "his time" yet and that he still has shit to do on earth. Maybe foreshadow Obito as Madara's right-hand man. nurudu and Hinata start to form a relationship immediately after.

I think so, Sasuke's mom seemed allright.
There was Itachi's waifu was cute and not edgy at all and according to the anime atleast Izanami was made by a female Uchiha.
The last 2 aren't canon, but every Uchiha grill we have seen were allright.

>Sasuke's mom seemed allright
IIRC she was in on the coup too but not nearly to the extent her husband was.

It has been a while since I saw it,but I thought she was just going along with what her husband decided like the typical japanese wife.

I wonder when we'll see the point where those two first met. It was probably some Mikoto-Kushina bullshit where they both knew each other since the very beginning.

She probably just wanted to bake all the conspirators cookies. Mikoto dindu nuffin

remove filler
remove power creep
remove prophecy bullshit
don't kill off every single memorable villain

>we didn't see Naruto keep the style of the Zabuza arc which was focus on being more of a ninja than a wizard
>we didn't see Naruto get promoted with Shikamaru which would have forced him to mature because he had responsibility. This would have also fuelled Sasuke's jealousy.
>Kishi was bland at world building and didn't have Naruto get a waifu from an enemy village which eventually turns out to be a spy - breaking his already fragile heart
>no minor teen romance between some of the 12
It could have been so much more

>Have more fights for sakura
Have Sakura learn some techniques aside from punching and healing, too.

>we didn't see Naruto get promoted
>Kishi was bland at world building and didn't have Naruto get a waifu from an enemy village which eventually turns out to be a spy - breaking his already fragile heart

>He already would be worse since he's no ahead of his peers that would probably be unhappy with his promotion
>Finally confides in someone and gets betrayed
>Throws himself into missions and only stops because of the Tsunade mission + Jiraiya telling him to stop being such a emo faggot
Shame i do not have the skill, or the autism, to write up my version of Naruto

>Naruto waifuing an enemy nin
why was this not a thing

>Sharingan's ability is just to copy jutsus and Kakashi's and Sasuke's battles focus more on this
>Akatsuki characters last more than one fight each and are actually treated like the kage-level enemies they're supposed to be
>if there is a war arc, let it stay as it was at the beginning, with small team fights
>actually make teamwork important
>let Kakashi be a teacher and actually teach things to Naruto and Sakura
>make Sakura actually fight as a member of Team 7. Give her more jutsus, motivations and screentime. Also she gets over Sasuke in Shippuden. They can still end up together, but it's not just an eternal weird crush from her side.
>make Sasuke less of an unlikeable edgelord during Shippuden. He had a perfect backstory to be a sympathetic character but became easily the worst part of the series
>more Hinata screentime and build up her romance with Naruto
>no reincarnation bullshit
>no gods or aliens
>more missions like the one in Haku and Zabuza's arc

Because as i said, Kishi was shit at world building and probably didn't think of things as deeply
If we do the love plot around shippuden age
>Naruto get tricked, gets put on probation for thinking with his dick
>Shuts himself off
>Hinata comforts him and they do the deed
>Still gotta keep it on the downlow due to politics and work
>Both find the relationship either a shadow of their first love, or not as good as they imagined
>Break it off

>>Kishi was bland at world building
This is the biggest problem with Naruto.

There are so many unanswered questions about how Ninja culture and "normal" culture intersect. Watching the show, you really get the impression that the various ninja villages are smaller parts of a larger world. The entire existance of the villages is owed to mysterious power brokers living in far away(?) places, but when shit hits the fan we never hear anything from those power brokers. The Feudal Lords are perfectly content in letting the Ninjas amass godlike powers and never fear that these super-powerful shadow warriors might ever threaten their own power.

All of the in-game maps show an area probably no larger than the Sea of Japan. That's so small! Whats happening on the other side of Ninja World?

I wonder what would happen if a ninja got a mission that hurts the village, but benefits the nation, by the damiyo (or whatever force is above Kage)

Plus how does the whole modern tech stuff work? I was fine with it until I saw one of the specials where somebody has A FUCKING MODERN TRUCK!

I'd be into that.
I only just started watching and he's the only interesting character.

>Clearly has vending machines/microphones and earpieces, tvs AND A FUCKING SPYING ORB
>but basically still Pre West Japan

>sasuke thinks he is better than his teachers
Fucking what? Since when?

See, that would be super interesting, but the world we're presented with insists that this would never happen because raisins.

>tfw we'll never get to learn about the clockwork country/continent that produces all the world's trucks and vending machines
You coulda set yourself up for a non-ninja sequel, Kishi, but you FUCKED IT UP

>Instead of Naruto running around Konoha he instead spends like 6 months in Suna in a swap to foster good ties where he grows close to Temari
>Gaara is 110% behind this relationship happening
>He tries to help in his own autistic way

That would be pretty cool.

>That house style architecture.
Oh god.

Whoops, forgot to mention this was supposed to be when he was trying to learn/train his wind affintiy
>Sorry Naruto we don't have many wind users
>but we know a place that does
>take sun lotion :^)

It's pretty crazy. Yet for some reason I only got pissed when I saw that truck

You could even have what they attempted in Boruto in what the whole Tech vs Ninja conflict
>If everyone can use some sort of ninjitsu or discovers gunpower why do we need ninjas at all?

The only reason the sharingan got so OP was in order for Sasuke to be able to keep up with Naruto's endless fox related power-ups

Have a no homo but....a little homo romance between naruto and saskay sprung up by sexual tension from sakura as early as season 1.

Have hinata fight for narutos affection with saskay and end her getting btfo....i mean that's one way to spice it up.

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