Anti-Natalism: is anti-natalism the ultimate degeneracy?

The more women I meet, especially in non-romantic situations, the more they tell me they abhor the idea of having children. I don't even elicit such kind of answer... They start the topic by themselves and make a statement.

This made me think of them as anti-natalists... Even though they abide by this doctrine in a naïve way (i.e. without former philosophical reasoning).

If you don't know what anti-natalism is, Google it. I am not going to teach you the basics of such degenerate doctrine.

I don't know why anti-natalism is so successful among women. I thought the meme was that men don't want to have kids and responsibilities, whereas women do. But this is just cliche, because, in fact, the world is exactly the opposite. I have seen couples breaking down because SHE didn't want to have kids. Sad.

P.S.: pic is to show how kids are born, in case you bêta-virgins don't know it.

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Women have the ability to knit a child in their womb, but, instead, they'd rather rip it out of them.
Reminds me of those witches in that were in America a long time ago killing their own newborns.

It is, because all anti-natalists were, guess what, born.

>having a son in the mordern italian society and economy
>having a son at all when there are 7b people

yeah no thanks I'll pass

There is nothing wrong with someone deciding not to have children, it's selfish to ask others how to live how you want them too. Your children will grow old and die just as you will, and may suffer unimaginable pain along the way.

The civilized world has under a billion.

Just look for better women. I'm sure the majority of the girls at my church would love to have children.

5+ is where it's at.

Yeah, all pop growth will come from developing countries this century, it's fucking insane, you cannot have infinite growth on a finite planet. We are already approaching total ecological collapse.

>99% of Rhinos gone since 1914.
>97% of Tigers gone since 1914.
>90% of Lions gone since 1993.
>90% of Sea Turtles gone since 1980.
>90% of Monarch Butterflies gone since 1995.
>90% of Big Ocean Fish gone since 1950.
>80% of Antarctic Krill gone since 1975.
>80% of Western Gorillas gone since 1955.
>60% of Forest Elephants gone since 1970.
>50% of Great Barrier Reef gone since 1985.
>40% of Giraffes gone since 2000.
>30% of Marine Birds gone since 1995.
>70% of Marine Birds gone since 1950.
>28% of Land Animals gone since 1970.
>28% of All Marine Animals gone since 1970.
>97% – Humans & Livestock are 97% of land-air vertebrate biomass.
>10,000 years ago we were 0.01% of land-air vertebrate biomass.
>50% of arable land will be lost in the next 50 years.
>1 million humans, net, added to earth every 4½ days.

I have to agree with the Georgian Guidestones and I do believe a manufactured die off will happen in the next few decades.

Antinatalism needs to catch on.
Raising kids is for betas.

People can live however they want to. If you want kids, have kids. Forcing others to have your opinion is more degenerate.

INB4 you get called a shill for not furthering muh race. The kids you have, will die. I don't understand how parents take pride in "creating life" when it was not the result of their creativity or thought, just a bodily function- it's like being proud for taking a shit or having sex, it's the same level of accomplishment

Good goy, don't have kids. There are just to many Europeans. Better let the Africans have kids.

Anti-natalist sentiment is one of my major red flags, I don't respect any girl who thinks like that, they are completely broken.

Hundreds of millions will die out when civilization ultimately collapses and cannot support them? If all of pol had white children it'd hardly make an impact when each African family has more than 6 children each

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>tfw me and you will just be chink satellite colonies

Its because we subsidise them, we should stop all aid to this God forsaken country as well as all immigration.

We simple need to get out of nature's way, build a nice big wall around us and wait for the crying and screaming on the other side to transform into dead silence.

Take pride in raising kids because creating a next generation of your people is the only way to perpetuate your culture.

Culture is the result of behavior. Behavior is the result of genes.

If you want an developed world to continue to exist, the developed peoples better should have kids.

I'll consider having a son when Africans, Indians and Asians will tone down their reproduction rate. Till then no thanks.

Omg Africa plz stop!

Bad Genes don't carry on, it's not that bad. We will see a rise of a pure nationalist white race form.

Men and Women that don't have children by statistic live shorter and less prosperous lives.

>meet girl
>she's openly racist
>hates socialists
I think I finally hit the jackpot but then
>hates kids and doesn't want to have any, ever
Goddammit.

My question is why should I care?

>Men and Women that don't have children by statistic live shorter and less prosperous lives.

Source

So, based on the picture, if you fuck a pregnant girl, you would end up creaming on the kids head?

That's fucked up.

>letting third world culture reproduce
>don't reproduce the first world societies
You know that this will result in the collapse of the developed western world?
What is won, if everywhere it is like Africa/Arabia?

If you think that the western countries could out breed 3rd world shitholes you're delusional as fuck.

I remember the era of real Australian anti WOG propaganda, why are we living in this hell? Wtf happened exactly?
Nicely put m8

Yeah, maybe a few thousand more a year.
Its not worth spending what you would make into somebody else.

At least I should in the disgustin shithole that is our country.
White people should be only one reproducing.

>The more women I meet, especially in non-romantic situations, the more they tell me they abhor the idea of having children.
You have to be 18 to post here

We don't have to outbreed them - we at just have to ensure the existence of our people. This requires higher, but doable, birth rates.

And we have to send non-Europeans back.

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Look for publications by people with PHDs, I don't save citations on this stuff. From reading on it after a discussion in another thread I learned that having children influences healthy life decisions and less substance abuse and high risk choices. It prompts you to take care of yourself along with your kids. It also takes a mental toll if you dont have a partner(wife/husband) or even kids at a older age.

I'm not going to dig around for the studys on it.

the modern white woman has casual sex from atleast the age of 14. they do drugs, regular abortions, take chemical anticonception pills and get drunk on a weekly basis. they have become worthless
stop projecting and fuck off

>country
I mean continent

For the same reason modern art is shit and modern education is dysfunctional, the 20th century has seen the triumph of ideologies directly linked to gnosticism. And the core belief of gnostics is that creation (especially in the form of perpetuation) is the most evil thing.

I disagree with the idea that men are less impacted by this though. Tons of irresponsible men in their 20's who rather play vidya than having kids. Sure, some change their minds earlier than women but that's only because the media are not pandering to them as much and the bite of regrets is stronger.

So it basically takes into account the random junkies and alcoholics who don't have kids and then die early.
Wow such a great study!!!

3rd world population growth is sustained by ZOGs such as the USA, by charity foundations, special interest groups etc.
>I agree with the Georgia guidestones
Good goy, best to kill all the evil civilized peoples manually, not remove all African support and let nature happen

It's the opposite.
Having kids is selfish.

>Its because (((we))) subsidise them

>he thinks a few more western dudes will be enough to counter billions of africans/asians/indians

This sounds delusional without even taking into consideration the different morals and ideologies that push forward in life these people.

UMA REPRODUCIA

My brother just recently got divorced because she didn’t want children so she could “expand” her career.

I really fucking hate women.

I would dump any girl that doesn't want to have kids, unless she is still pretty young and her mind can be changed. A childless life is not worth living.

You must be young. Women who get closer to 30 start to really want a baby, it's a biological urge. My sister just randomly needed a baby at 28 and had one.

No it takes in to account of the average life decisions around drugs, alcohol, hygiene, health upkeep, financial controls, and mental stability.

>stop projecting and fuck off
Never ever met a girl 20 or older who didn't want children unless she was a completely worthless bar-slut (but even then, rare)

felipe minha namorada fez aqui também sopa de criança uma delícia

Literally go to any university or college campus. It’s the vast vast majority of them.

Retreat to your nest.

> aging sluts tired of the cock carousel start hearing the biological clock

You don't need to worry about the population of third worlders if you don't give them free food and medicine. Once their populations get unsustainable or a disease breaks out, the excess will be naturally culled.

From looking at your posts I can assume you are between the age of 20-25, over-weight, depressed, and deffinelty female. You probably need to stop drinking as much as well.

Bingo. That's exactly why niggers are ducked in the head. Been saying it for years. They're animals and hump anything that moves. Hump away banging the babies head in, result. Receded hairline, slope forehead, no frontal cortex, from getting the before birth plumb tipped ebony stick lobotomy.
And on and on , downward circle continued. Attn niggers give the poor babies foreheads a break.

>I don't know why anti-natalism is so successful among women
Because they don’t like responsibility and Society teaches them they never need to take it.

>getting married before discussing improtant topics like having children
>getting married at all
>enforcing your own selfishness on your partner
Your brother got what he deserved

Never been to one of those, gimme 1 good reason
>Worthless sluts willingly subjecting themselves to Jewish indoctrination and riding the cock carousel
I thought we were talking about women

(((society)))

Sick anecdotal evidence right there

> being this cucked
You must be napolitan

Don’t. I’m just saying that it’s common for women to loathe the concept of having children. Extremely common.
I hope you will enjoy being ruled by niggers because of how much you hate children, faggot.

Can we get a blanket ban on shitalians
From OP:
>The more women I meet, especially in non-romantic situations, the more they tell me they abhor the idea of having children. I don't even elicit such kind of answer... They start the topic by themselves and make a statement.
It's every bit a valid anecdote as that one

It is common sense. Why would I sacrifice my money or my time on some screaming brat?
Fuck that, just go out and spread your seed. Go for married women and cuck their husbands, they want it the most. That way you have done your duty to the white race, but don't have to spend time on the little shit.

Look at this guy
he is talking like kids are soldiers for his race war
>make mani kiddo to push back ze niggas powaa

>Why would I sacrifice my money or my time
Kys

Women opinions are irrelevant. They don't know themselves what they want or need. If shes a good wife material, you can either manipulate her into having kids or straight up jizz inside her every day until she cant help it but be pregnant. Just make sure she knows that abortion is murder and you will kill her if she kills your kid.

Tfw a Ruskie was needed to bring sense
This place is dead

>no argument
No, you kys.

I'm actually from Turin and I'm simply applying common sense. Anecdotal experience is never a good argumentation so either stop using it or don't complain when you get called out for it. As I said before in a perfect world I'd be all in for having children but since we don't live in a Sup Forumsbubble, or atleast I don't, I'd rather not ruin my life with a kid which I couldn't raise properly due to the current state of economy and society. So far the only argument pro-kids in this thread was "muh outbreeding/muh culture" which sounds delusional as fuck since there's really no way to outbreed sandniggers and niggers. Feel free to keep on purposefully misinterpretatinn my post tho.

>le edgy nihilist incel
There's no stronger happiness in life than spending your time teaching your son how to be a man. Nothing even compares to that.

Exactly, been saying this for years. It's so obvious that it's all the foreign aid that is causing this massive explosion in births... Yet even well educated and bright people I've spoken to don't think that's the case.

Marxism is a plague.

No Gianni, you are the niggers.

No.

Virgin shaming
You must feel so good about yourself, you had sex after, thats an accomplishent
Kys and your family

Im not arguing with you I'm saying you're a satanic selfish cunt and unironically need to die

>the more they tell me they abhor the idea of having children.
What is their reasoning?

See:

kys

This is exactly the type of degenerate behaviour that has caused the current situation.

Really? What the fuck do you care about what these Africans Indians and Asian do? Are you one of these environmentalist cucks? If you really care about the environment, then why not start spreading some disease in India, China or Africa or ram your car into a bunch of Nigerians

Right on for the first one, rest were wrong.
Nice attempt.

Sad if true.

Kek

Manufactured or natural, Africa is due for a mass extinction event. it WILL happen

I disagree.

Which is what I said, excluding the mental bit.
A lot of deadbeats dont have kids. They're poor and alcoholic. That skews the results m80.

>Slav LARPing as white
pretty sad

That’s what these kinds of people always say.

>I can’t even look after myself LMAO how could I look after a [insert derogatory term for a child]

Does anyone here realize your kids will die? Whether young or old, whether from a disease, horrible accident or old age?

>t. Permavirgin Christcucks
Here's a fact: when we die, we all cease to exist and very soon we are completely forgotten, as if we never existed.
Deep down you know this, but you can't get laid, so you convince yourself you're not supposed to.

Yes everyone should have kids. We can learrn alot from india, china and nigeria in that respect.

>Anti-Natalism: is anti-natalism the ultimate degeneracy?
There's nothing wrong with aborting non-whites.

>meaningless sex gives me power

Thats a serb for you

>Deep down you know this, but you can't get laid, so you convince yourself you're not supposed to.
Only thing in life that matters is getting laid
This is why your country is a shithole

I'm not an environmentalist but if I was one I doubt my moral compass would allow me to kill billions of people just for the sake of the planet. Feel free to go ahead and explain why, in your opinion, having kids it's a good choice.

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Reminder that everyone in this thread that is pro-kids doesn't have any himself and/or is not even trying to.

"m-muh white race and self inflated ego is more important than the whole worlds ecology"

>people
>non-whites